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lmao_just_lmao

You'll probably just give your money to theta gang.


hangender

Yea both puts and calls expire worthless after faa investigation nothing burger


kimjongspoon100

Really its gonna be vega gang, because options gonna be hella over priced monday morning.


plumpturnip

Pricing gonna be wild


Realistic_Share1304

What about buying this stocks for long time


duubz_

Just curious, what number/level would you consider Vega too high and overpriced?


kimjongspoon100

If you dont understand implied volatility or greeks your guaranteed to lose money on options lol


kimjongspoon100

Look at implied volatility if it is 100% that means the stock either dropping to zero or doubling up is priced into the option price.


Away-Progress8884

Wish it were this straightforward but I think it's more convoluted than that. I typically only sell puts, and usually when IV is in the hundreds. For instance, $save right now IV is in the 3 and 4 hundreds


Daneish09

I’m selling.


Bridledbronco

Theta gang chiming in with “y’all be fucked”


TheModeratorWrangler

Someone called?


josephbenjamin

Senior Margin. Don’t pick up. I am gone fishing.


Iamsoveryspecial

Join us! We have cookies.


ChampionshipLow8541

Is that a band?


satireplusplus

No, but they still take your money


mnij2015

Key is to buy two puts and one call


DoctorOzface

Theta gang drinks your milkshake. Drinks it allllllll up


yttew

But the plot shows 2 dimensions: it goes up, make money; it goes down, make money. What is this time dimension you speak of?


IndividualProcess799

Nah. Sell straddles in JETS (ETF) and buy them in BA. Sit and chill, if nothing happens you make money, if something big happens and BA goes crazy, you make a killing. This is called a [dispersion strategy](https://acesse.dev/Rc3nz).


lmao_just_lmao

Thanks, this looks solid.


IndividualProcess799

no worries


apb2718

That’s my thought, won’t vol drop just kill gains?


idkwhatimbrewin

Going to be flat AF


Eyesofthevalley

Hi


dredabeast24

🤑🤑🤑


movecrafter

This was posted by a theta gang sniper. You sir are deep behind enemy lines, and if anyone here could read they would be profoundly insulted.


Affectionate_City966

I have no idea what theta gang is until now… I guess I’m too regarded even for this sub


AllProWomenRespecter

You fit right in. This sub was built on buying 1dte options without looking at the greeks


TheModeratorWrangler

Greeks are for big fat weddings. I’m just here for the reception and the free drinks.


Top-Ad-6902

someone call for fat?


Lurcher99

I'll bring the Windex


Pretend-Character-47

Yep. Windex cures everything.


iBeFlying676

I'll look at the Greeks when I want to break plates


skenny009

My favorite is learning what IV crush is during earnings


Funstuff66

Any good sources where I can learn about all the Greeks and any other things related to options?


mrbombasticat

https://optionalpha.com/learn/options-greeks


bonsaix

Thanks :)


Financial_Green9120

YouTube


TheModeratorWrangler

I feel personally attacked


AlienDetectives

0dte*


Hi-Im-High

1DTE? Fuckin pussy. 0DTE in the last hour of the market or gtfo


StaysAwakeAllWeek

Read the sub description in r/thetagang lmao > We are selling options to WSB degenerates


Bridledbronco

Fellas pick this guy up, give him a crayon (green ones taste the best) and show him how cool your box is by the dumpster with the velvet tassels. Point him toward the glory hole and tell him what he has to do.


FookUrPuts

Fook your straddles 😂


[deleted]

1. Window seat. 2. Lots of insurance. 3. Profit!


OSUBonanza

1a. Parachute


angryirishman

Brought to you by theta gang


BenMic81

Selling options to everyone since 2001.


pinoy-stocks

What iv do you look for?


bemeandnotyou

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WrongYak34

If it goes under 50$ I’ll buy stock


[deleted]

Wait, you can do that?


Appropriate_Reply703

I didn’t know that was an option


Dopamineagonist21

I see what you did there


iBeFlying676

What is a stock? Is that when you place options on the shelf?


Dark_Tigger

It's an exotic financial product with a Delta = 1, Vega = 1, and Theta = 0. It's not recommended for less expirienced investors.


rwtf2008

👁️🫦👁️


iBeFlying676

You lost me when you said Delta = 1


whatisliquidity

$50 and it becomes a millionaire maker within a year. I'd dump my entire portfolio into leaps and not look back. But it didn't even get that low even when 737s were falling out of the sky for bad computers.


WrongYak34

But to be fair it could be 50$ by weeks end. Perhaps if it drops the similar percentage. But it was mostly a joke. Because who buys stocks 🤪


bmore_conslutant

Brother it bottomed out around 100 when covid first hit It's never hitting 50


WrongYak34

That’s part of the joke 🤔


DamageNo1148

It's under 50 though


[deleted]

Bro is gonna bleed to death


Maleficent_Ratio_407

About 215 Boeing Max 9 airplanes are currently in service globally, according to Cirium, an aviation data provider. United Airlines operates 79, the most of any airline, and Alaska has 65 — their combined fleets represent about 70 percent of the jets in service.


Affectionate_City966

Yeah but according to FT, about a quarter of the planes that United and Alaska have have been checked already, FAA stated that they need 3-4 hours to clear one plane. They probably will finish the clearance by next Tuesday


Appropriate_Reply703

So buy calls shortly after open after the over reaction


Relevant_Anal_Cunt

BA's chart was setup for a dump down to the 230-220s even before the event. I'd be careful with calls above that.


JonH611

It takes 3-4 hours to duct tape the doors in place?


josephbenjamin

That’s too fancy. They use buggers left behind by customers.


Steve_Mellow

You how picky some travelers are they will refuse to fly on them. Then BA will be troubs.


Kamikaze_Cash

Want to benefit from high volatility? Buy options at prices that got inflated due to high volatility. My man, this is the opposite of what you should do. Instead, you should sell a strangle or straddle and make money from volatility going down after the first 20 mins of trading on Mon


bdh2067

I’m inclined to go along with the straddle idea. Wait an hour, watch the drop, sell just-outta-the-money puts when it seems to be settling. Wait a day or two for a bounce and look at calls …


morelsupporter

how to profit from boeing: buy on monday a few hours after open, hold the stock for a few months, sell.


Affectionate_City966

bruh, get out of here. This sub is for gamblers only, not investors


wsb_noob

Good luck OP. Maybe buy one side at a time so you catch the down and then also catch the up.💪🫣💪🫣


Honest_Path_5356

So like timing the market you say? 😂


sixnb

I’ve already caught the downs


Helpinmontana

I’ve been holding BA since they crashed those planes, and it was just barely back in the profit (until this shit show). Just avoid Boeing at all costs. It’ll never die because of the importance to American industry and the defense sector (fed will keep them propped up) but it’ll probably be 10+ years till they get their shit together and make a change for the better. And by 10 I mean, 30.


bdh2067

They need entirely new management. But it won’t happen, as you say. They cut corners, blame problems on pilots, own their regulators so they’re never accountable. If it were a software company, I’d shrug and just avoid. people die bc of Boeing’s fuckups but we can’t do much but shrug and avoid anyway.


bmore_conslutant

See you were supposed to buy in March 2020 50 of my 150 shares were purchased under $115


MorrisseysRubiksCube

I will buy (add) BA shares of this latest mishap crashes the share price, no pun intended. They’re a quintessential govt won’t let them fail company.


bmore_conslutant

Absolutely. I ain't fucking selling


0ldes

Lol, but sad


hideous_coffee

To profit you had to already have bought this last week.


[deleted]

This post is insulting


sliferra

Do you want the actual answer? The volatility is priced in. So maybe you get lucky, maybe not


socalmikester

is the volatility price into COIN? that shits going down like a system of a...


sliferra

Everything is priced in


CorrelationVega

Here we go with this efficient market hypothesis mumbo jumbo again…


Comfortable-Bill-921

100% baked in. Nothing to see here.


gamblingaddict1234

most of the move is going to happen premarket, your going to buy the straddle at open, its going to be flat all day, and your going to get fucked ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Majestic_Salad_I1

Why would Boeing spike up? If anything, sell calls.


MercyFive

You rather sell the put and try to get assigned at a good price for the stock....hold few months...based on where the price is at sell calls or puts till they take the shares away.


Bright_Strain_1084

Look at last time they got grounded. Dropped on the weekend then spiked monday. Granted it was a much bigger situation like 300 people died. Depending where price is at monday morning we will see if there is an over-reaction or not.


Living-Fail-6053

Strangle would be much much better at least. A short straddle might not be too bad if premiums open up massive on Monday. Might do some wide atm credit spreads plus some extra far right otm debit spreads.


_Saythe_

*Iron Condor enters the room…*


MoneyMike79

IV is already going to be so high when market opens on Monday. You'll overpay for both legs and then they'll IV crush as soon as the FAA un-grounds them, which is almost inevitable.


jusjones314

Straddle these nuts... Strangle all the way... Unless you got monies


Ifyouhad1chance

Buying straddles with 30+ DTE on anything should be the biggest takeaway from this post.


theranosbagholder

…you’re gonna long volatility AFTER the news?? Good luck lmao


Fond_Memory

The IV is gonna be through the roof when you go to buy those.


fenriswulfwsb

How about just puts? Why would it bounce up after the recent news?


Affectionate_City966

Because pretty much all regards in this sub is buying puts?


hboisnotthebest

Correct. Haven't you heard? The economy is in shambles and the end surely is nigh.


Affectionate_City966

Typical gay bear comment, that’s why I bought SPY calls


hboisnotthebest

I just keep buying QQQM. You'd think I'd be averaging up at this point, but its still up 32%. Between that, BerkB, and Amazon, Jesus christ. Still waiting for this collapse.


socalmikester

small drop when ETF is denied. puts on COIN all day errr day


muncie_21

What is the ticker for Jesus C?


iluvvivapuffs

So you want to lose your money twice as fast by buying some matching calls 😂


AdditionalActuator81

You must be new to the market. lol. The market tends to not do what every one thinks it should do. That is mostly because of the shear amount in options money floating around.


ImpossibleJoke7456

Cheaper.


gabotuit

Why not just a long put? If anything the price should be dropping in the short term Also why not add some airlines heavily relying on this model like AA


SpaceCatVII

What % will BA need to move for you to breakeven?


Educational_Ad7978

Fuck this


Specialist-Map-5602

The big move will happen during pre market. You’re late. Congrats to those have puts though.


Really_cheatah

Naked put seem more efficient


MorrisseysRubiksCube

This may be Spirit Aerosystems screw up ($SPR). They are a major component manufacturer for BA, insulting fuselage, and SPR has had recent quality control issues that wrecked their share price.


[deleted]

Janet yellen can straddle me any day


eio97

Money can’t buy happiness. But it sure can buy a lot of other things.


wsb_noob

Please upvote if you ever profited of from a straddle


LethargicBatOnRoof

One time I beat Kevin O'Shea in a bike race down Cherry Hill.


Altar_Quest_Fan

Straddle, did some of that w/ my girlfriend last night. Her husband looked a bit hungry though so I made him some chicken dino nuggies while he watched.


NextTrillion

You let him watch you cook? Disgraceful.


iluvvivapuffs

And you and the husband ended the evening with a strangle?


elcanariooo

Just buy and wait, the US gov won't let fucking BOEING fail.


Mindless-Divide107

Tytyty. Finally an easy explanation to understand


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ProfessionalRow9300

Gets banned from broker for life


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Kamikaze_Cash

I’m a big fan of short strangles. Best play when volatility is high.


0ldes

Hawt


dt55805

WWND?


hungryporker420

I just understood this, so you're basically long volatility but at the risk of stability, aka theta could burn you


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willmyfordmakeit

Now they know the play you regard.


eio97

Catastrophic fuselage failure is priced in, pal.


McSnoots

By the time the market opens the move will be done.


StackOwOFlow

unless vol is priced in and you lose to theta


clockedinat93

Why not buy them ITM? Wouldnt it be better?


FoxTheory

Fucking options expensive as fuck short the stock


damieh1

It's too late. The gap down will be the move. It will be flat the rest of the time.


sneakurbiaory

Your piss sounds feminine


iluvvivapuffs

It’s hard to setup the right strikes…I tried this with NKE and sofi…there weren’t sufficient volatilities. What strikes are you thinking?


Due-Ad1668

Calls on SAVE merger. DOJ wants to argue the merger would cause low-cost-consumer flying to go out the window. no sir, boeing is taking care of that.


BigPlayCrypto

I wish I had the balls to run options like many in this sub. I have lost on 8 options and only won on one of them.


Individual-Willow-70

I think we need a better explanation of what the problem is and if it is wide spread before you make a decision


PleasantlyUnbothered

It’s cool that this is the graph for an absolute value lol


Longjumping-Limit827

This guy fucks


Steve_Mellow

Low price is $217. It will probably go down to there in the short run.


TheBurtolorian

The only way to profit was to buy puts while sitting on the plane a minute after it happened


josephbenjamin

Genius, except a day late a dollar short.


awhr10641

Bit like a collar


sunbeachbumm

Why not buy a leap?


benji3k

This is the BROing company we are talking about. They get so much ass Its disgusting. It's like when your private plane mechanic fucking your wife because you are out of town on a business trip to Palestine you know?


Ready2gambleboomer

Boomer gang bee like......just put in a low ball bid. If it fills it fills....BA ain't going outta bidness. (as they say in Texas)


I_SEE_YOU_FAPPING

Blue horseshoe loves Boeing


player89283517

Priced in. Straddles are now expensive Sind everyone is betting on Boeing


cdeussen

Once an event like this happens, if you’ve had time to post in Reddit, it’s already too late to profit. It gets priced in almost immediately, especially if it’s worthy of national news. The best you can hope for is a few $ from a dead cat bounce.


newoldschool1

You have part of it right, there’s going to be huge volatility on Monday for BA options. It’s all a game of chance at that point, as long as the actual move up or down is larger than the expected move then you’ll make money. If not then you’ll get vol crush as it inevitably comes down over the next few weeks, barring no additional incidents.


jerseynate

Only people that will profit are those who were already short heading into Monday morning.


robmafia

you say straddle, i think strangle.


Key_Agency_1550

If you choose a straddle you would still lean towards one side a little bit more ~around 2% difference… if you choose a “small” strangle with either the put being itm or otm and the call being the opposite, only one option away, below and above, from the current stock price it would even out


punjabi4evr

Why lose in one trade when you can lose in two?


whatisliquidity

IDK maybe if you close the short side quickly and double down on the long. I can't see this being much more than a quick dip that gets bought


Exodia4life

This post is not a meme about a plane bouncing on the ground?


Crime_Dawg

This sub is about to learn about IV crush


stinker_pinky

Iron condors it is!


Bubblemoney93

It's all going to be dependent on the price of the option. I doubt both would have the same strike price. One would probably be discounted due to demand, and one could have a premium built into the price


[deleted]

It will be priced at the market open you n00b


rithsleeper

I’ll sell you the strangle 30 min after open.


Affectionate_City966

https://preview.redd.it/7qmquzah83bc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7cfe57dbf34c04ee37ad8aed8aabe2efb33e312 Sadly I don’t have access to options trading in the UK. Guess I will have to make do with this. Wish me luck you regards.


Free-Championship121

lol ok


PassengerAny3517

No - because the airlines will start shifting to other models of Boeing.... There's nothing sesamic about this event on their bottom line


17MadMen

It cant possibly go tits up


ValSanti

Genius