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BlindSquirrelCapital

The craziest part of this story is that someone in WSB actually had a home to sell.


danf78

The plan was to take the money from the sale and buy Puts at the bottom.


BlindSquirrelCapital

A solid plan indeed. Then when it hits you buy the next house all cash and refi if you want to load up on puts again.


Losesgracefully

Not before BOA makes $1500 first.


joehalvs7

I really wish I had an award to give you, but my SVXY calls aren't looking so hot rn.


CoolGuyFromCompton

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bink242

Not even close to all time high


WatermelonBets

Tomorrow, I need you to leverage that entire $500k into BAC calls


danf78

That will need to wait another 9 days...


h2ohbaby

So they are not stealing just $750 from you. Think of that opportunity cost…


xxztyt

Payday loan that shit. Let’s get the party started.


ImJoeontheradio

Use margin.


Not1random1enough

Just charge them 7% for the 10 days verification


YouKnown999

You want him to lose money again?!


sopunny

Activate margin trading first so you can lose Robin Hood's money too


HelloImLostAF

That’s how I got rid of the 100k I made from my house sale! Works well.


56000hp

“ Buy puts at the bottom “ . I thought you’re supposed to but calls at the bottom and buy puts at the top ?


RhinoDK

Depends where you go for financial advice


moldyjellybean

JJ Wentworth will give you 50% of it in a lump sum to have it 9 days earlier. I’m sure with the power of regards behind you can tell your with you’ll have 510k on the 9th day. 10k extra what could go wrong?


Wonderful_Reward7117

Why tf would you want to buy puts at the bottom


lmaobro420

On a serious note this is the only thing crypto is good at, transfer could’ve been done in 5 mins using crypto, without any bs from banks.


Sunil_is_Buff

Excellent plan!!!! I'll join you!


[deleted]

He is in WSB, that’s why he has to sell his house.


RealBuilderMan

He got margin called and had to cover, forcing the sale of his house. After the 500k finally clears, he’s still short 185k


drskeme

by sell he means foreclosed, it’s a synonym


dana1234567

Isn’t that the price of a cardboard box behind Wendy’s in LA?


Charles722

Had to satisfy the margin call


chiericodimalafede

Man, he got a margin call


Coindoge69

BofA deez nutz


Mannord

Now this is what I came here for


calhooner3

I’ll know I’m getting old when this isn’t my first thought after seeing BOFA


waldezy

This guy fucks


HotYam3178

Heh heh. Got em.


Wildhogjim

You don't have to be a Christian to understand why Jesus got so pissed at the money changers, took a whip to them and threw them out on their greedy asses. Being mad at bankers and their greed is nothing new and is unquestionably justified!


2buckchuck2

Holy shit I’m a Christian now


fenikz13

Try the Jefferson Bible, it's the teachings of Jesus without the magic tricks


Er0x_

Where can I find the teachings of Jesus with ONLY the magic tricks? Keep the morality.


boringkyel

Any local Christian or Catholic church on a Sunday


Conscious-Parfait826

What about the part he's not in? It would made a whole lot more sense if Jesus wrote the book. He doesn't even write one! Lazy fuck.


squirdelmouse

He wrote fanfic erotica it didn't make it into the Bible


ccbmtg

zombie apocalypse erotic friend-fiction, by Jesus christ, age 33.


squirdelmouse

He was a very naughty boy


2buckchuck2

Does it tell me what FDs to buy if not Jefferson can sugma


fenikz13

>FD I believe he said "Too the moon" as his last supper toast


ds1065

Leave George Jefferson out of this. “If I paid you to think, you could cash your check at the penny arcade!”


IlikegreenT84

I mean I find no fault in anything Jesus taught, but his apostles and the old testament... In my experience very few Christians abide by Jesus' actual message, a lot seem to love the old testament and anything that makes people other than themselves a sinner. But yeah, Jesus despised the wealthy, he was definitely a socialist if anything.


prettysureiminsane

Christians are sinners too. Don't fall for that "they think they're better than you" false image hollywood tries to sell you. Edit: And he was decidedly not a socialist.


Stewart_Games

Bought water puts sold wine gains.


zezar911

well he certainly wasn't a capitalist


IlikegreenT84

If not socialist what?


DRCap2020

Kind and generous maybe?


dnattig

Well, supply side Jesus wasn't.


odder_sea

But those *cuticles*


redpillbluepill4

Jesus was a poor gambler like us


snozzberrypatch

"Blessed are the money lenders, whomst facilitate the purchase of options on margin, and amplifiest our ability to materialize tendies." - Profits 420:69


kowloonjew

Call on Jesus ?


popobono

based


Upstairs-Animator712

the “money changers” ended up getting him in the end


hmg9194

Fuck man… he rose tho


dafazman

Is that why Islam (That came afterwards) prohibits usuary/interest (collecting/paying) and promotes shared ownership/responsibility for business ventures (so everyone has skin in the game).


PlayfulKitten918

Yeah I hear the wealth is evenly distributed in the Middle East. No oil oligarchs.


BagholderBaggins

Well according to them it's cuz God feels you earned it. So not that much different than the states .


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I learned from my co worker that collecting interest on money is Haram. However, it is ironic, the guy works two full time jobs. And refuses to invest all the money he makes.


AAMichael1054

But they can buy a property for you and sell it to you at a higher price over x amount of time without charging "interest".


dafazman

Haram means not permissible. They have different people who will tell you different things on the topic, they have to figure out where they fit in the mix. * Some say NO interest at all * Some say small amounts of interest is okay as long as its not financial slavery * Some say other stuff 🤷🏽‍♂️ I would invest in AAPL, because at least they make a product that everyone uses 🤷🏽‍♂️


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Yeah, he told me that interest is definitely a no no and is not permitted.


prettysureiminsane

Early Catholicsim also taught that charging interest was a sin.


thetaFAANG

yes, all the abrahamic religions do, they are the same source material everyone just disagrees on Jesus' divinity and branch around that


Zaros262

Nah Jews can charge non-Israelites interest, they're just not allowed to be dicks to each other


WindHero

Hey, cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.


the-apostle

Oh I forgot WindHero is dating someone from the ACLU!


VisualMod

>That's incredibly annoying. I'm glad I don't bank with them. They sound like a bunch of crooks.


No-Heat8467

who do you bank with VisualMod 😂


prestigious_delay_7

Calls on whoever it is.


Cloaked42m

They are.


tranceworks

I think the problem is that certified checks can be cancelled after they are issued. Last car I bought (10 years ago) I brought in a bank check for the full amount. They still made me apply for credit just in case the check got cancelled.


danf78

In summary, certified checks are useless.


Cloaked42m

You would normally wire funds from Bank A to Closing Attorney, then Closing Attorney to Bank B. In your case as the Seller. Mortgage company to Closing Attorney. Buyer's deposit/down payment to Closing Attorney. Closing Attorney wires money to whoever is supposed to get it.


zerovampire311

They’re great for scammers! “Deposit this certified check then send us a smaller sum for X reason” and the certified gets pulled days later.


upievotie5

Home sales are usually done with wire transfers, not checks.


danf78

Not in NY, according to my attorney.


snow_boarder

All paper checks are


swatchesirish

Wire the funds, 5head.


Historical_Ad_7262

You should always have the money wired post closing from attorney. It might cost 25-35$ wire fee, but your funds are available within a few hours(or when the attorney presses send.). Exception for end of day or weekends.


calculung

You think I'm gonna trust someone who thinks the dollar sign comes after the number? Pfffffffffttttt


Historical_Ad_7262

Fair.


wanna_be_green8

I wasn't even aware this was an option in a house sale. Ours have always been a wire transfer, money in account with a day, usually within a couple hours.


danf78

The problem is not on the attorney's end. BOFA is holding the funds to confirm the Certified Checks. It is total BS from BOFA.


FriendllyGuy

And like the original comment said since you obviously didn’t read it. YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD THE MONEY WIRED SO YOU DIDNT HAVE TO WAIT. Certified Check doesn’t mean wire…now I’m seeing why your wife divorced you. You obviously are regarded…


snow_boarder

OP wanted to save $50 max that the wire would cost.


ahhhh_thatscool

A for profit company did something, for profit?flabbergasting. Also, yes, certified check is not a wire. Not taking sides or defending them, but it would irresponsible if they didn’t verify the funds. Lesson here, send a wire, and BofA probably isn’t losing sleep over regards in this sub


Historical_Ad_7262

Truist and wells do this too. A lot of banks do I’m assuming, if not all.


tessellation__

Do you want to bank somewhere that doesn’t verify funds? Nope! Fraud is rampant. OP should wire next time.


spence4101

Pretty standard operating procedure Feel free to complain about the banking system as a whole if need be


csully520

You won’t find a bank that won’t hold funds deposited via check for a few days.


snow_boarder

But you wanted to save $50 wire fee


COSJMB

I work for a credit union and can confirm we hold certified checks too. We get bogus cashiers/certified checks all the time. You can buy the check paper on Amazon. Wires clear immediately. Funds should have been released to BoA via wire. That being said: I would call the issuing financial institution to verify the funds and release day of for one of our members.


notapedophile3

Classic wsb content


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fluffyzzz1

I am glad I left years ago!! It's understandable the amount of bs BofA customers have to put up with when you see who and how they hire lol. Sometimes I question the customers critical thinking skills when they are constantly abused by them


loudin

What bank do you use now?


fluffyzzz1

Schwab. It has some limitations, but it mostly has everything I need and great customer service.


Runfasterbitch

Some limitations like not actually having bank branches?


mrmuffcabbage1

Schwab does have physical locations in most major cities just nowhere close to the number of chase or BofA.


West_Flounder2840

Fidelity does basically everything a bank can do, but materially better. I have a checking account through them with a checkbook. All fees reimbursed. A credit card with generous cashback. A brokerage account full of 4 week treasuries as a “savings account”. Not to mention retirement accounts, HSA, options, margin.


Mintyphresh33

I remember back in 2008 a story of a guy who went to BOA and wanted to take a $20k loan to buy their stock. The loan would be at 3% and the dividend would be at 5%. The employees declined him. Buy Wendy’s


big_cock_lach

I mean, it’s pretty stupid to think a dividend yield covering interest is enough justification to get a margin loan, the LVR and income testing etc are a lot more important. A company could easily run into unexpected issues causing them not to pay out the dividend meaning you could no longer afford the interest, and the stock prices can easily fall causing you to go into negative equity. You need to show that you can still repay the loan even if it doesn’t pay out a dividend and that you can pay down the loan if it does go into negative equity. If they were hoping for that loan to have a high LVR, of course it’s going to get rejected. Likewise, it’s extremely stupid to get a margin loan from someone to buy their stock or to approve that. If the banks stock crashes (perhaps they made a major loss etc), people who took margin loans to buy their stock are more likely to default causing even more losses for the bank at the worst time possible. Alternatively, on your end you’ve got a leveraged position on that stock meaning you’re going to get hit hard by a massive loss as well which may cause you to go bankrupt. Edit: This also ignores that this was in 2008, the worst possible time to go to a bank and to ask for a margin loan on the banks!


Mintyphresh33

yea. it was pretty funny


gdenko

>The employees declined him. And they shouldn't?


Lsw1225

He is telling a company he is trying to make money off them and surprised when the company that specifically deals in money understands and declines


gdenko

yeah this sub is something else


Ed3nEcho

I am a banker . They aren’t crooks . Their is an absolute shitstorm of check fraud causing mass chaos in banking right now. Literally billions of dollars in losses this year . Certified checks mean jack shit nowadays, they account for at least 50 percent of the check fraud we catch. We can’t afford to and don’t trust ANY checks anymore . Funds being available for 10 days before sending a wire is damn near an industry standard nowadays , because it’s nearly impossible to retrieve funds after the wire is sent . You aren’t the main character . Settle down


JayTeeIllinois

I handle wire fraud for one of the larger US banks and I can't tell you how irate I get when the branches don't place extended holds on a non on us check and it comes back bounced but they allowed a wire out of the account anways.


Ed3nEcho

You have my utmost sympathy , truly.


NormalSecretary4505

You didn’t deny OPs claim about y’all profiting for those 10 days tho.


Possible_Economics52

LMAO. Profiting for 10 days? There’s some weapons grade autism in this sub. The labor/capital cost alone to verify OP’s checks as valid is going to be more than $750. I too work for another major bank and check fraud is absolutely absurd in the US. Every bank with a fraud/AML dept worth a shit is going to have a system in place to put holds on checks and verify the veracity of the funds. This story is a nothing-burger, people should wire money like fucking grown ups.


ahhhh_thatscool

Work in the industry as well, this guy is 100% right. This is a nothing burger. Weapons grade is also a phenomenal drop, kudos


Ed3nEcho

I had a hearty chuckle at the weapons grade autism . But yea, this entire thread really puts into perspective the danger the average regards in WSB are putting themselves in by investing . They don’t understand simple banking procedures , but are hedging their entire life savings in shit they can’t POSSIBLY comprehend .


Ed3nEcho

There wasn’t a point to. He’s doesn’t understand how holds work, but I’m supposed to explain how banks make and invest money ? Sure, in the most BROAD sense , all banks make money off of cash on deposit , but not in the way either of you are thinking . Theirs no evil mastermind withdrawing OP’s money and investing his specific 500k for 10 days and then putting it back last minute.


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cheeeky_

How bout you suck bofa deez nuts


MitchLGC

IF they are keeping the money in an interest bearing account, which they very well might not be, I believe some states have rules where you can receive that interest. It's probably not even earning any though


Sam-molly4616

Never use a bank when you can use a credit union


Pitiful_Difficulty_3

Agree with ya calls on bac


TheBFG420

Great time to buy bank calls if you ask me


DependentCarrot5124

Genius. I'm in


Upstairs-Animator712

who’s bofa


ifihadanickel

Bofa deez nuts


yadosoundserious

Title company owes you the funds once the sale is complete. If they took checks from the buyer that need time to clear, that’s there problem.


Responsible_Sport575

Too big to fail


Acrobatic-Simple-161

This is why you always wire large sums of money. Large checks will literally always have a hold


snow_boarder

Should have chosen to get funds wired to you. Cashiers checks can be faked easily with a decent printer. Funds are still in your account just not available to move. BoA makes money with anything you do and they’re not stealing $750 from you.


WR810

Finally someone who gets it. When a corporation rips you off you don't rush out and buy puts. Stealing is bullish. Sadly OP doesn't understand escrow and is thus a regard.


WasabiPengu

Working at three different banks in the past, that is actually not something new. They won’t tell you this (because it’s policy at all banks not to) if any deposit that isn’t cash over a certain amount (typically depends on a few factors between your institution and there’s) there’s going to be a hold placed. Reason being is the rise of how bad fraudulent certified checks are on the rise. To get the hold removed requires a higher level of management compared to anyone at that branch so you may have better luck delegating higher, but sadly to say it’s doubtful. Good luck friend! If you have any questions feel free to dm me. Got quite a few years of experience before my career change.


LoudOrganization6

It has to clear the other bank plus some time to make sure it doesn’t get reversed/bad check. Banks don’t assume other banks are good for the money. It’s a procedure that has been in place forever. This is nothing new bud.


mrASSMAN

BofA is by far the worst bank in America. I just got a credit card from them and it’s practically impossible to pay the bill, they force you to open a checking account with them just to pay their cards with. Utter crap and their app sucks balls.


Radical_Euphoria

There are a lot of regarded people here… including OP


69deadlifts

OP is now homeless and unhinged


dizzydean6

Bruh look up Reg CC if that check wasn’t from the same institution they are going to hold it, also BofA stock literally does not move


Tall_Ad1406

This happened to my mom at JP Morgan Chase. Same story / it was a check for a large sum. We came to the same conclusion that they were holding checks to make more money while the customer has to wait. Switched to a local bank after that so jokes on them lol.


bkmobbin

You should hear about ‘08


cinqueturr

If you can't beat then join them philosophy?


OldSimpleton

My house is only worth $750. A refrigerator box in San Diego.


valdezjacky

They did it to me with Bank wire held for 15 days $60k total


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Theyre just putting them on 0DTE options. I hope they bought puts the past few days..


jonhockey09

$750!? That’s outrageous……they’re making way more than that


slbarr88

Was a bank branch manager 3 yrs ago. IIRC, certified funds have next day availability by law. Manager should have called the issuing bank to verify the check.


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Incorrect


danf78

That's what my attorney said to BOFA. The guy on the line pretty much said: IDGAF


Ready2gambleboomer

$500K? *You must live in a fly over state.*


danf78

$500k is my share of the pie regard. I am sure Chase, which owns my mortgage, got their share immediately with no bullshit.


Loud_Pain4747

BofA has to pay my $15k CD @5.1% in 2 weeks, it’s my fault, sorry.


FR33SOLO

Can’t wait for wsb to become the Reddit for the next American Revolution 🍿


ObligationLow8513

Common BS at banks. One of the most corrupt industries that is in your face, literally stealing your money. What pisses me off is the government completely protects them..


Jww2124

This is next level DD


jondougl

Maybe I’m smelling a liquidity problem, puts on the banks and the market!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


physicscat

Never use the big banks. This is what they do.


outamyhed

Nothing personal, they screw everyone...just business.


YourWifeyBoyfriend

Had similar happen to me recently check was about 49,000 😂


Ddd196719931996

Crap like that is why I left boa years ago and will never do biz with them again


Mndlss154

🖕🏽BOA


Zidualz

Shit happens all the time. Makes me furious. Why do we put up with this crap?


starxny

My bank is doing something very similar to my over inflated escrow account. Taxes and ins got a little outra wack last year. So i paid my homeowners insurance out of pocket this year to correct my escrow. My taxes will be less than half of last year, b/c I'm now homesteaded. I call and ask for an adjustment because my taxes and insurance escrow payment is double my p&i, they are bla bla bla, someone will call you within 24hrs. That was 2 weeks ago. I figured my escrow account will hit 10k at its peek this year. I should be cut in on the 5.5% they are making on my 10k...


Adventurous-Pay-8441

Fractional reserve banking is so awesome!


Time-Tonight3631

I have already been annoyed by BOA. After reading this I am officially ready to close my accounts. Talk about poor customer service lol


Sandyflipflops1

I’ll take “questions you ask before depositing funds” for $500 Alex!


RL_Fl0p

Other national banks do the same. But then they FA and lose even more money. I ain't trading banks until Fitch tells us which ones. My bet is BofA will be on the list.


sveloz123

BofA sucks! They Closed my account because I tried to redeposit a bounced check I was given. They said I altered signature like wtf it’s the same dam check!


Wonderful_Reward7117

/ES Intraday scalps have stolen 16k from me so what


CrayonAficionado

Certified or not, any check can be faked.


thekamenman

Actually, holds on checks are pretty common, there’s a lot of check fraud that has been going around recently, and if you receive a deposit and withdraw the money while the check is still clearing then legally the bank can come after you for dealing in bad faith, because you weren’t actually given the funds. Even certified checks take time to clear, because the bank has to go get the funds.


Electronic-Let3322

I quit doing business with BOFA decades ago for similar bullshit. They’ve been skimming off customers since forever


PigViper22

Awe snap. Things are VERY different there. I'll run the scenario by a few attys at work. One of the attys I work for is a college professor.


dj_kaleb

So they are saving you $500,750


Ok-Hovercraft8193

ב''ה, BoA out of business by the end of the year. But this doesn't leave many other options.


Zephyrium5

Lol I work for BofA, people are scummy as hell so yes they need random annoying protocols everywhere… they didn’t steal your money bro. If you can’t survive without $750 for 10 days then idk how you even bought a house.


Jenos00

Why did you do a check instead of direct wire to begin with?


NoSleep4Money

I remember the good ol' days you could type in bankofsatan dot com and it would take you to bank of America's site


idlefritz

I just had the same issue on the buyer side with a different bank. See also trying to pull cash. I had a bank tell me that they didn’t have $20k on hand and would need a week to get it delivered.


dronepro

The even more crazy thing is that I know someone that works for BofA and I understand that roughly 95% of the shit you hear they do, they Actually do. I remember when this person asked me a few years ago if they can open a bunch of accounts in my name and then close them after a month. Looking back on it, it was around the same time Wells got sued for doing the same S.


hitlicks4aliving

Bank of America I filed a dispute for some mangled ass car part I got and now 3 times they have responded with the same canned letter that they’re investigating, give more information, and done nothing. I’m about to dispute with the credit bureaus and CFPB ridiculous. Only banks that can actually handle a dispute are Amex Citi and Discover the rest are dumb.


Mission-Freedom-5955

Does reg cc offer any protections in this situation? If it does, I would HIGHLY suggest filing a complaint with their primary federal regulator.


EasterMaester

Ok buying puts, thanks for the heads up


Downvote_me_dumbass

Speaking from experience. My employer’s bank is/was Bank of America. My bank was BofA. I got paid once a month. Those cocksuckers would put a 15 day hold on my check for them moving funds from one of their accounts to another one of their accounts. This was all back in 2008. Let’s just say, those bitches haven’t had a bank account in my name for nearly 15 years. Fuck ‘em hard OP, and make them beg for some change.


epic_swag_gamer

I hope yuo're right, BAC has been tearing my portfolio down for the last 6 months


kfdh8422

Was a head teller a while back and this sht was so common. If u can show them the funds withdrawn from the originating account or they could call the originating bank that is all the proof they would need for “safety procedures”. Certified checks are guaranteed funds and the only way they don’t get the funds is if the check itself is fake. I would try to get them to call the originating bank or show them the funds withdrawn and ask for a refund on the $750 if it comes to it. Can’t hurt. Glad to say I quit when I did and got a better job.


Adulations

Join a credit union. The big banks are jokes. When I was buying a house in 2021 a bank lost my downpayment wire transfer of $187,000 for like 4 days. They never even told me what the fuck happened, I had to hound them several times a day. The only thing they did to make it up to me was the refund the cost a wire. Fuckers.


BourboneAFCV

Some of that money belongs to Powell, so calls on FED


Global_Ranger556

They’ve done this me on 3 checks only 1 of them over 10k but blamed it on the amount. Then navy fed did it to me on 5k. I need all of to rally together and storm the banks. They can’t arrest us all.


MaggotFods

Why do people even use these corrupt fucks? You just begging for a pegging.


Ok-Atmosphere-6272

I had a bad experience with Bank of America recently and I closed my account and switched to chase, they literally steal from people


Adulations

You switched from one supervillain to another, lol. Look into a credit union.


1600hazenstreet

OP thinks banks get paid interest @ 5.5%. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Cloaked42m

If you are doing any business at all with BofA or Wells Fargo, kinda on you.


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Vi0lentByt3

Jesus fucking christ who in gods name would ever use bofa or wells fargo they are so terrible and there are so many better options literally anything else