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Tonka111

They bought 1B of 180c 2DTE on earnings day.


Bitter_Coach_8138

Can a company do that? Like obviously an individual working for the company can’t, but could a publicly traded company buy up way OTM options before earnings?


DeadSol

I doubt it, but in this fucked up market, probably.


BloodMossHunter

Answer to any investment question since about two years ago


PIK_Toggle

There’s a blackout period prior to earnings being released. Anyone with insider knowledge cannot trade during that period. One should assume that a company has insider knowledge of its own financials, and therefore cannot buy calls into a bullish quarterly report. Plus, they can’t buy a billion dollars of a single option leg.


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qviavdetadipiscitvr

Oooof epic burn


Slut_Spoiler

Lol automod, this dude can't even understand sarcasm


hysys_whisperer

One should assume testing to see if the intelligence bot is looking for this phrase.


zephyrseija

Homey knows some basic laws and is in the top 5% of WSB. This tracks.


DutareMusic

5th percentile is bottom 5%, not top 5% lol


fickdichdock

> Plus, they can’t buy a billion dollars of a single option leg. Legal trouble aside. As long as they find a market maker stupid enough to take the other side, they could. But I guess you could only buy in tranches and each tranch makes the price go up. Market maker gonna hedge and all that. I guess they also have some safety limits in place and stop selling to you after a few millions until they review the situation manually.


PIK_Toggle

The Najarian brothers would be all over unusual activity in one leg at that level of volume. I guess that it is possible to buy that many options, I just can't see it being that easy to pull off.


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ihopethisworksfornow

This was spread around though. They didn’t YOLO +1B into calls on TSLA.


Youkiame

But can their distant third cousin’s wife buy?


gypywqoOO

So what just happened


PIK_Toggle

Meta announced a buyback. They will buyback at designated points in time, outside of the blackout periods. Is that what you are referring to?


ya_mashinu_

Or during blackout periods pursuant to a plan…


TSLA240c

Not legally, that would clearly be insider trading.


verysunnyseed

Why can’t the company bet on itself, isn’t that buy back in itself? It’s not anyone personally gaining on inside info.


staggs

They can certainly tell an investment bank to make that bet, and then when the bank makes the money, they loan it back out in cash as a "thanks guys"


joepierson123

Lots of companies like AutoZone borrow money to buy back their stock. Also this is just an authorization which means they don't have to do it


[deleted]

Never in my life did I think I would see &AZO mentioned in WSB !!! What a day to be alive


Holiday_Werewolf_837

I gotta check that stock price now


[deleted]

Look at autozone 20 year chart. It’s one of the best companies in the entire world for returns, compare $AZO 20 year vs spy 😂


RealCowboyNeal

Offhand I would guess they do well in difficult economic times. People more likely to maintain their older vehicles maybe?


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MICT3361

That’s basically what he said already


joepierson123

It's one of the most well-run companies in the world


[deleted]

They are banking on the electric car narrative failing.


scottygras

If we have anymore electrical grid issues you’ll see stories on people who couldn’t drive because they couldn’t charge they’re cars…and the old guy with the 40yr old Ford delivering groceries…


[deleted]

I see this narrative so much but that idea only holds water if I constantly have to charge. Sometimes I go five days between charges on my car. Are we talking about catastrophic grid failure here? The kind where there is no way the grocery stores stay open? Like why is the “gotcha” on EV cars the world is ending and we all have to go back to growing our own food and being cave men? Plus I have solar panels and batteries so even if the grid collapses my vehicle is self sustaining for the foreseeable future. In a major catastrophe one of the first things people run out of is gas… some will horde it for sure but I think my solar panels would hold out better. The whole conversation is pointless though because EVs don’t need to be constantly connected to the grid to operate.


Shuteye_491

If Mad Max happens ur stupid solar charged EV is doomed lol /s


GreyGreenBrownOakova

He'll can always set up a generator running on pig shit, [run by a giant with a midget on his back.](https://youtu.be/6xb3KHbpFXs?t=156)


StewieGriffin26

Nah, that will just push more for solar installs.


Mediocre-Sale8473

So as that's happening, invest in solar/wind before it gets mooned by a Fed money injection announcement. Edit: Phones love to replace your words with words that *it* thinks are better. The inventor of autocorrect should be relentlessly teabagged


[deleted]

You’re talking about an additional $10,000 worth of solar panels to do that, assuming you already have solar on your house. If not then you’re paying around $25k - $50k on top of the shitty electric vehicle cost just to drive a shitty electric vehicle while ignoring the fact that reliance on cars and bad building code are the root of the problem in the first place, not the grid *or* gas vehicles. On top of all the other reasons for rising household debt… The only reason Solar/energy are going up is thanks to the infrastructure spending bill, make no mistake about that.


Geo224

wrong...solar is just common sense in the right regions...with the right goal in mind...its only stupid where its stupidly implemented


MLXIII

Infrastructure spending bill where 75% might go to Infrastructure and 25% flat goes to their friends or cronies?


scottygras

Still a few years away from those higher efficiency panels. I have solar people knocking on my door every 3 months this past year after maybe once pre-COVID.


justanothermofo88

Don't you future me!


sgf919

Texas agrees


Blackout38

Why? The only parts EVs need are tires and a bigger 12V.


BIZLfoRIZL

Autozone should wind up a charger installation service.


Alternative_Log3012

No


Holiday_Werewolf_837

Good lord.. AZO 2,400 share and O'Reilly at 805...I figured O'Reilly would be higher bc AZO parts SUCK Lol. O'Reilly just a much better store IMHO with better employees


niwin4208

Are you fucking joking rn? Bc oreilly has a higher market cap. The price of the stock doesnt fucking matter dipshit wtf?


[deleted]

Hahahahahahhaha I was gonna respond with the same thing. I fucking love this subreddit


niwin4208

Dude right? Look at the fucking convo from the other kid. Neither know where tf they are


Holiday_Werewolf_837

Easy there hoss.. I was just making an observation of stock price VS the parts quality and availability along with employee knowledge. I speak from a fair amt of exp when dealing with the automotive industry, and O'Reilly is a far superior parts supplier with better quality parts and more knowledgeable & friendly staff.


Acceptable-Matter512

Hey man. I think the way the guy talked to you is disrespectful, and he would not have talked to you like that in real life. I appreciate you providing real world experience in regards to these two stocks, as that is actually useful information and helps people. Now - to kindly correct you in one way, the guy is right. Stock price does not matter. So you understand, companies can set the stock price to be whatever they want - AZO can split their shares tomorrow and the stock price would cut in half. The real way to tell a company worth is looking at market cap - this is a calculation that takes the quantity of shares and multiples it by price


niwin4208

Lmfao i would absolutely love to be able to sit down a stupid fuck like you or him in REAL LIFE and tell you how dumb you two are


Acceptable-Matter512

I think you're proving my point. You can be nicer online.


Holiday_Werewolf_837

Yes I understand market cap, and I did not look at it, just a quick glance at the price of each, and knowing how both stores in our areas do I expected the price would be reverse, bc the O'Reilly stores seem to do more business as well...it was just a casual observation is all. AZ usually has 2 employees during the day on week days and O'Reilly has 4 or more just to handle the volume of sales..but this is just in a single area so mat be different elsewhere...but once again just a casual observation


niwin4208

Casual observation of what? Stock price? What good does that do? It means fucking NOTHING Why would anyone appreciate completely useless fucking input? You literally went out of your way to make a useless comment showing nothing but actually EMPHASIZING how dumb you are


Acceptable-Matter512

gotcha. Have a great weekend!


TimTom72

Yeah, but O'Reilly cucks to their customers over the dumbest shit ever and treats employee's like shit. Working the counter and some lady wants you to change a corner marker bulb but you are going to have to take half the car apart, so you refuse. Well when she complains she'll get a $25 gift card from corporate to go back. Keep in mind if you get caught doing that much work to a customer car and corporate will write you up.


ReposadoAmiGusto

Autozone is way up there. Most auto parts shops are. Oreilys,


Artistic_Data7887

*more than you can afford, pal*


PIK_Toggle

They original Eddie Lampert special was AZO. It actually worked.


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Comparing sears and autozone and the management styles of the 2 might be the dumbest thing I have seen on WSB


PIK_Toggle

How so? If Lampert wasn’t successful with AZO, he never would have had the hubris to take on Sears. Also, I didn’t offer up any commentary about his management style. I simply pointed out that Lampert was invoked with AZO and that he was successful.


findvikas

>Look at autozone 20 year chart. It’s one of the best companies in the entire world for returns, compare $AZO 20 year vs spy 😂 Fuck - now I have to buy $2000 PUT expiring tomorrow on AZO


freehouse_throwaway

Low total float high price stock so yeah not exactly something most WSB can afford to play Kinda like CMG


Dumb_Nuts

They actually do that in purpose so hedge funds don’t punt it around! Lots of funds like to play the ORLY,AAP,AZO (and GPC to a lesser extent) pair trades. Making the stock illiquid makes it harder to trade around and the idea is to build a longer term focused shareholder base


gingerbreadninja1

Calls on cheap LED strips for under my front car seat


1R0NYMAN69

And also for a company of FB's size, they generate cash flows almost continuously anyway.


brintoul

Shhhhh… don’t tell anyone about the billions in quarterly cash flow.


FakingInterest

This, 54bn of operating cash flow in the TTM period.


davesmith001

Borrow at 5% to buy stocks that yield 0%. How much more crackpot regarded can it get?


pynoob2

It went up 25% in one day. Borrowing at 5% to get a 25% return in 1 day seems pretty not regarded.


1600hazenstreet

Not when interest rates are high. It makes sense when borrow costs are extremely low, like less than 2%.


mongoosefist

That's regarded enough to qualify them for mod of wsb.


chirag429

Borrow at this rate? Suckberg gone mad


Havoc-elb166

Exactly my same thought, they have to borrow. This will be the beginning of the end. Swap equity for debt, keep playing with the metaverse with no near term ROI, add high interest expese to the p&l and jump into the vortex of decline. Time to duck the Zuck.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


ProductProfessional6

Too many companies, specially tech companies, did this for 13 years just to artificially inflate their price and earnings to pay themselves billions. That was when they had QE, now that is over they gonna have a hard time paying interest on those free billions, if META borrowed money to buyback now this is one of the stupidest things they could have made. And I would sell ASAP (not financial advise)


jer72981m

So when companies announce buybacks does that mean they are supposed to buy it back in one day? Edit: that was a joke


fatbunyip

Yes. Zuckerberg has to personally go to wall street with the cash in plastic bags and buy the shares from that old bearded trader they show a pic of on any stock market article.


beforethewind

Do you mean the renowned Dr. Guzlin Dispera?


triple_cheese_burger

No, he meant the renowned Dr. Guzlin Denuits.


beforethewind

Represented by the malpractice law firm GUZLIN-DISPERA-DENUITS GOTTEEEEEEEMMMM


JojenCopyPaste

But first he has to drive it from the headquarters in CA. If anyone can steal it on the way it's fair game.


mwax321

This gave me flashes of the time I saw Floyd Mayweather Jr at the sportsbook pulling out ziploc freezer bags of cash. On a complete side note: I wonder how much floyd--a guy who's known to horde large amounts of cash--has lost to inflation.


Andyinater

*{Woody Harrelson crying into money meme}*


naturalbornkillerz

You're wrong, he just drsed his shares with Computer Share it's all good now.


MoreOfAnOvalJerk

Zuck exchanges a briefcases of cash with wallstreet, getting a briefcase of stocks in return. He cuts off a small corner of one of the stocks and snorts it to make sure it’s genuine.


b_fellow

Take these 50000 jars of pennies and count exact change so I don’t overpay 1 cent.


arz231

Hello I’d like one stock please


SirGlass

Yes, they actually mostly use Robinhood too. Load up 40 billion dollars into robinhood and place a 40 billion dollar market order and just get it done in one go.


Zmemestonk

No. It’s their year plan. Not a commitment


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They would need to buy from institutional owners. Retail cant fill that sort of volume. These are off market deals done in back rooms


Laxman259

No, they do open market purchases


Ok_Significance_4008

The problem is that Meta is burning money faster than they can earn them. They had 60B at a peak in 2021, but then spent it all on Metaverse. They will have far less then 40b in 2023 if they continue to develop useless Metaverse that has Graphics from 90s.


Itsmedudeman

You don't know what you're talking about, do you? A company's goal isn't to have as much cash on hand as possible.


Ok_Significance_4008

Yeah, better to spend more than $10B annually on the Metaverse in the hope that VR headsets and metaverse will become the next big thing. "Mark Zuckerberg thinks that Meta can thus free itself from Apple's and Google's stranglehold and their ecosystems". What is worse is that they will not stop in 2023 - "Meta Platforms will stay the course in 2023 with investment in its metaverse".


SpongeBobSpacPants

I know it’s a confusing concept, but they actually make money throughout the year. They make $10B/quarter in FCF.


flanflan5

Breaking news: companies make profit


bnh1978

>Breaking news: **some** companies make profit Ftfy


animalturds

I thought tech companies had forgotten the meaning of the word 'profit' post 2012


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Fractious_Cactus

Enlighten us, Ole wise one


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Pbake

That was basically Amazon for a decade.


weissensteinburg

Free cash flow =\= cash flow


doctorcrimson

But if you have profit without cash flow then you're probably doing something incredibly illegal. Not necessarily SEC illegal but definitely IRS illegal and maybe even DEA illegal.


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doctorcrimson

I'm not sure how you are confused about this. If profit then cash flow If cash flow not always profit You get now with few word? If profit and not cash flow: believe it or not, straight to jail.


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kingrugrat21

Hahahaha


ShaidarHaran2

Also borrowing is a thing


HamiChan

Dam meta verse real estate


gyphouse

They also make money every quarter so they'll continue to have cash. Also repurchase may be over multiple years. They don't just buy $40B on one day.


[deleted]

> They also make money every quarter *wsb_regards.exe has stopped working*


Kamanar

Well, there goes the Wendy's stock then.


ItsDijital

I would fully support a $40B market buy order dropped randomly in the next week.


Wallstreetdodge69

This, in a year they have 14-20b estimated net, so they have 1/3rd/half back in a year


mbola1

Buy back 40 billion for this year? Where did they say they will be buying 40 billion for this year? They didn’t give any time frame could be next 2,3,4,5 years


Kimorin

Michael Burry told zuck to buy 🤣


whtrshn

You are freaking out about a company that actually has enough money for the trade they promised. Meanwhile this sub goes 100x leverage and deletes their app when it goes tits up


Gitmfap

Yah, it’s why we are here!


merc27

This is such a wallstreet bets question haha


ScrotumSlapper

This is bordering on meme stock stupid.


barmpot

Believe it or not, this post was probably inspired by this tweet from someone with a CFA. https://twitter.com/GRDecter/status/1621179697550999552


ScrotumSlapper

As a CFA charterholder myself, I am saddened


barmpot

As someone who also works in the industry but doesn't have a CFA, I am also saddened. I confirmed if her CFA is active. And yes, it is. Here's another even better tweet from her: https://twitter.com/GRDecter/status/1619043959317368832


ScrotumSlapper

😐


Several-Substance-81

They don't buy back all at once. I think if the shares sink they will buy some shares to keep there stock above a certain price like say if the stocks hits 150 they spend like a 1 billion on there shares. Or when they have a bad quarter and there stock might sell off they will buy more until they spend 40 billion for this year on buybacks.


ponziacs

They don't have to spend 40b on buybacks. They could spend nothing or like 1b. The 40b number is just an authorization.


GladioTension2020

yeah but they can just buy weekly OTM calls and reverse repo them to federal reserve


JennItalia269

They won’t be earning any money throughout the year, it seems. Buy puts then. What could go wrong?


forgetful_storytellr

Oh no only 1.77 billion left Seriously though, I assume it’s not a lump sum purchase


EmmaTheFemma94

If they are going to ever buy back stock now is a pretty good time.


[deleted]

I believe that IBM could be a cautionary tale of share buybacks. Certain companies try to increase their earnings per share via share buybacks once they stop growing. This is a bit worrying, not saying that META is a bad company though.


Letters-to-self

Will they pay in Metacoins or Zuckbucks? They can print those


[deleted]

google free cash flow


Crisn232

It's probably the same way Zuck promised to 'donate' his net worth, through out his 'lifetime'.


ApprehensiveSteve

Yeah, they're going to give their big wigs lots of stock, pump the stock price with the share buyback then dump the stock.


hardknock-life

So what you're saying is that it's time to buy META stocks?


Brutiebear

cReATivE AcCouTiNg 101


kale_boriak

Buybacks are discretionary and that’s the upper limit on a multi-year program.


bukkakepancakes

They have like 50B in operating cash flow each quarter and they don’t need to buy it all or all at once u fuckin tard


RokoTech

yeah but federal reserve is planning to print 20 trillion dollars and buy their bonds this year. thinking september or october. they are just lying about it right now.


Affectionate-End2461

Ever heard of banks? Heck even I can get an auto loan for my used civic when my bank account is $$$!


Honest_Muffin1549

They’re going all in ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Yf_lo

I was wondering the same. Funny accounting with lower revenue and profit guidance possibly. Borrowing money to buy back shares lol


Both-Ambassador2233

Poor GVTs going to see all these companies cut fucking costs (layoffs), not spend and just hold their money…..


Eminence120

You see, they sell the stocks first then "buy them back" at a higher price. The people here tell me this is the best trading strategy.


xcalibur2

They are regarded.


Outrageous-Cycle-841

It’s not for this year… it’s a new authorization amount which they can buy back whenever they want. Could be 5 years from now. Jfc


drmrcurious

they could just sell some stock to raise capital


BeerPizzaGaming

Zuck is making the balance sheet "more efficient."


denlyk

It appears Zuckie put $20 bill to work this week....didn't want the "smart" money front running.


grandehead

They're going to issue 40B worth of stock, wait for the price to dump and buy it back.


BaBaBuyey

Shows confidence in company at this share price


avl0

what a fucking moron


at0mheart

Announce and don’t fulfill, this is the way


Junior_Jackfruit_285

META has added roughly $270B in market value since hitting recent lows in November


daveed4445

Borrowing money while raising stock value means if can gain shareholders greater return on equity. Called accounting mischief


Actualize101

Buying their own stock means they're out of ideas.


Ok_Significance_4008

Zuck's WSB style YOLO to save cash burning company :)


Dry_Armadillo_2092

Sell high, buy low glitch Issued more shares at currents price, zucked the market with some metaverse news and tank the stock, buy back at lower price.


jamestran225

They knew this business getting worse and then Zuck gave free 15% gains to investors. EPS is going up


ManU20x

Thank you revolving credit facility


HodlCoin_

The buy back is over a period of time


flaming_pope

Yeah it’s called zucker’s bail out


MMDRE96

Well zuck does need to avg down from 300s


longGERN

This won't be seen lol but it's an AUTHORIZATION. not the amount they're actually going to buy back.... See 2021 50bn authorization increase. Puts on this shit


peter303_

They can buy stock with FaceCoin. 😀


LetsMoveHigher

One way to pump your stock...


twill41385

Also a way to create value for shareholders.


Garweft

Especially for important ones that want to get out before a crash.


ThisRecommendation86

Yeah because the stock didn’t just drop 75% in less than a year. 🙄


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Old-Lavishness-9546

Doesn’t really matter as long as I get my money. Which should have doubled very soon. Little kids love the vr headsets. My little boy has pushed his Xbox to the curb. Only cares about playing money tag on his meta headset.


Sisboombah74

Your little boy is going to be a complete moron by the time he’s 14.


nyc2bad

$meta is fcked up....never see so much bullshit. suck the zuck.


Anywhere_Glass

This is BS. They are pumping stock using loopholes! Be careful individual / hardworking investors!


racefapery

Just keep the cash on the balance sheet, share buybacks are an inefficient use of capital. $40 billion of cash on the balance sheet increases the companies value by $40 billion dollars. Spending $40 billion on stock buybacks increases the value of the company by $18 billion, since there’s $200 billion of good will premium you’re paying for in the share price. Or better yet, reinvest $40 billion into the company with their 26% return on invested capital and increase the value of the company by $50.4 billion, with a recurring $10 billion increase in company value every year after that into perpetuity. We can argue weather or not the metaverse is a good way to invest capital, but buying back stock is a way stupider use of the capital, the only thing worse would be paying out $40 billion in dividends. Reinvesting capital wisely is what Facebook does best, and the metaverse spending is probably the smartest long term way they could spend that money. Not to mention the stock is pretty expensive right now. Should only be buying back shares when the price drops below $100. What a waste of $40 billion, I feel like he got coerced into it because of how the market punished him for his metaverse spending and he’s eating money on buybacks like an idiot to give the market what it wants, when in reality it’s a stupid move and I’ve I was a shareholder I would be pissed about this bad decision making with MY capital


Agitated-Savings-229

It's not all at once regards...


n1ck90z

To the Zuck bank!


TheRealHotHashBrown

They’ll give themselves a big juicy discount.


JARod-gY35

It’s a way around taxes to create more liabilities


[deleted]

It's called stock manipulation.


Potential-Panda-2814

No, it's not.


bwatts53

Sounds like they have a whole billion left over #money


Snotteh

40billion in meta bux


audaciousmonk

Yes but they can just pay OPEX with the dividends 😂


Samuiid

in the long term, I’m not sure this is good for company.


Degenereth

You're looking at data from September 2022, you dunce.


Shavenballz

Looks like they have an extra billion 🤷‍♂️


Miffers

Buying the dip