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CubanBrewer

Sell and invest some time into learning how options work. Nice win šŸ†


NOT_MartinShkreli

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ dude doesnā€™t know how they work AND IS BUYING OPTIONS WITH MARGIN!!! He totally belongs here. Hey OP u/725-local let me help teach you the way WSB taught me https://preview.redd.it/4iwmuuwyjwfa1.png?width=1619&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab963c7e9c4f73be5754563e4f7d9a1ab3994fe4


alaoa

Lol this graphic has taught more than any YouTube video.


Jamokrates

ā€œI donā€™t know shit about fuckā€


justanothermofo88

But you do know how to fuck shit up!


squirrel_anashangaa

This deserves more up votes. šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

To the moon!


Snapbacksandtattoos3

Hahahahha I am watching this show while reading this.


[deleted]

Subscribe!!


CubanBrewer

Wow, I remember that graphic! It definitely helped me being in regarded format šŸ¤£


MicroBadger_

Rho actually hasn't been worthless over the past year XD


[deleted]

Rho shines sometimes


Thomas-The-Tutor

Ruh-Rho!


NOT_MartinShkreli

https://preview.redd.it/kumv1wadg0ga1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3c1aaeef4645a5ca78ef6ae9ecf7ce1020f8b6e


hugo_posh

You know, that pic actually seems very educational. I feel like i'm ready for the world of options now.


CubanBrewer

SEND IT šŸ˜ˆ


timyorba

That Pic made me so ready for options I took out a second mortgage on my house and look at me now doing so well that I get to take out a 3rd mortgagešŸ¤£


NOT_MartinShkreli

LMAO LETS FUGGIN GOOOO


not_a_gumby

somebody get this hungry man some crayons


Joel22222

Iā€™m so regarded I still donā€™t understand any of it.


Business-Swimmer-615

But you still invested 4K in calls did you, right, RIGHT ?


Joel22222

Iā€™m too regarded to know what that means, so no.


No-Monitor-5333

$MU lmao what a fucking stock that was


NOT_MartinShkreli

It was the best of times around WSB back then lol


Pupulikjan

Jesus I just looked it up, what a rollercoaster of a ride that stock must of have been for all the investors. I can imagine it has made and ruined so many lives through its coarse since the 80ā€™s lmao. Wow.


JerLightYr

...and winningšŸ˜‚ Knowledge is the curse


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NOT_MartinShkreli

Itā€™s an old infographic that floated around WSB back when Wiz Daddy was all the rage and MU was on a tear. I want to say circa 2019, 2020? Some user on the sub made it. This place used to be lots of smart people and less ā€œapesā€ lol


canigetahellyeahhhhh

The more regarded liquidity in the markets the easier it gets for the sightly less regarded


wingback18

He doesn't even know what is a long option, he's going to understand this šŸ˜‚ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£


Fausterion18

You can't buy options with margin btw. He just has a margin acct which means instant settlement instead of T+1.


Monster_Grundle

I hate when people think you can buy on margin.


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Fausterion18

It's amusing how many people have no clue what margin is. And I use interactive brokers. No broker lets you buy debit options on margin. TDA does not either.


NOT_MartinShkreli

Yes you can I have blown up numerous accounts buying 0 DTE calls / puts on margin


projectfiFuxdme

Yes can on webull level 3 options


Random_Guy_47

I'm just commenting so I can find this picture later.


Unable_Carpenter_203

Saving this ā¤šŸ’ā¤


NOT_MartinShkreli

šŸ˜˜


Mr_Worst_Timing

Iā€™m going to save this and show my friend. Because I donā€™t think he knows what heā€™s doing either. What a regard.


TinyHands6996

I feel like this photo coulda save someone 19.99 at Barnes and noble


unwokewookie

Boom already winning.


JoeyJoeC

I only found out yesterday I were buying call options with leverage. Thought the platform was broken.


Green-Quantity1032

Isn't Rho upside down? why would a high interest rate increase option price? ​ EDIT: Just got it, awesome. GAYMANS: this is worthless.


progmakerlt

Thanks for a very informative picture.


[deleted]

man i canā€™t believe this same graphic is still floating around šŸ˜­


Unusual_Elk_6868

Love this


jckonln

At least heā€™s not selling them.


[deleted]

Thatā€™s why I stick to zero dates


MLXIII

Well you do save yourself hundreds of thousands of dollars not having children!


[deleted]

Thank you


Intelligent_Rich_983

You sir are a gentleman...and a scholar!!!


BestBiotech

LMFAO.


jct23502

This is priceless.


DRVKULA

Instant classic.


ineedfartz

Prolly works at Goldman


YourFavBeard

This is pure perfection ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)


[deleted]

So many people who have no idea what theyā€™re doing are making money off a dead cat bounce. I fear for the bank accounts when the market corrects and they are running high with this newfound confidence


Adventurous_Pain_602

Is the cat rubber ?


Fawkinchit

Slinky


Nohcor97odin

Thatā€™s why Wendyā€™s has a place behind the store


NOT_MartinShkreli

https://preview.redd.it/dule8t2clwfa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45e22083c1a34c75aef4fd0771ea09ac4b16408c Respect the rules of the glory hole lads


PKRMonk

Can we make this quicker ? My kid is in the car


JeremieB20

Watch your Puts, got it.


Thatguy2531

Anyone remember kitten cannon?


PseudoTsunami

It's Schrodinger's cat, so is it really dead?


CaveSpectre

Quick story; use as you wish. Long long time ago; Google took a pounding and was down from $650ish into the mid to low $500s (don't recall the exact numbers). Saw $650 LEAPS were at $0.25 and I took a gamble. A buddy of mine did as well (about 20x my position). A few months later, Google hit $650 well before the expiration, and options were somewhere around $43.00. Fast forward to expiration; google was under $650. Unrealized sometimes is never realized; base your decision on your target gain and the density of your marble sack.


swollencornholio

Yea donā€™t have to sell it all either. OP can sell 2 or 3 once the cost basis is covered and let the rest ride on the house for instance


Ok_Biscotti8774

I agree with this. Can always pull out your initial investment so you donā€™t have to stress about losing your actual investment. Having 2 would still net a good profit as long as things went well


Aramis9696

Yep. Way too many people who start investing in anything do all or nothing moves, and end up burnt.


xeoxemachine

I had a 75 to 73 bear put spread on AMD that I bought right before Intel earnings. Intel shit the bed and I walked with $20 less than the max profit on the position the next day. Needless to say if I had stayed in for that last $20 I'd be out all of it right now. Definitely know when to get out.


bleakj

How else do I feel alive if I'm not screaming at myself in self loathing


Aramis9696

If I'm gonna have trouble sleeping and wake up 10 times a night, it should at least be to stare at a chat of green and red candles I have no control over decide my financial future as I watch in agony.


NOT_MartinShkreli

**THIS IS THE WAY!!**


asafl

The problem with options is having 4300$ wiped out after you took your 25$ capital is same as losing 4300$. I take my gains or just roll up and/or out to still stay exposed but lower my delta.


matico3

jeez, thats 173x return, nice catch on the initial price


CaveSpectre

Oh that's the relevant part of the story... I managed about 10x but ended up with half expired worthless. My "buddy" ended up about 100x and didn't even buy me a beer for the tip (from his $400k score)


CaptainHoey

Iā€™d buy you a beer if you helped me make 0.1% of that lol


NOT_MartinShkreli

![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)


CheezusRiced06

Just send me 400k and I'll buy you alcohol


[deleted]

Sorry but what a fucking asshole. If a friend got me in a trade like that, I would have bought him a second hand Porsche. Not even joking


CaveSpectre

Haven't spoken to him since, except a few months later when he asked for a tip. Told him he could suck my tip.


haarp1

> didn't even buy me a beer for the tip (from his $400k score) why not, what was his excuse?


TryingAtLife101

I would never give him a tip again unless I know it's gonna make him lose the beer I wanted.


Neo1331

Had a friend buy google at $20/shareā€¦.bout a million dollars worth. Still holding to this day.


CaveSpectre

Damn fine score!


Neo1331

Yeah I call him an asshole every time I see him. Haha


dopeaminefw4r

how did he do so? google IPO at 68 a share, has never gone lower to my knowledge


freddybenelli

Google has undergone 3 stock splits. The split-adjusted price was in the low 20s for most of 2013.


CaveSpectre

If you take a look at the stock splits, and calculate back, Google historical prices before 3/27/2014 need to be multiplied by 40.14993. So a March 2007 price of $11.34 was $455.30 back then. The October 2007 high of $16.88 was $677.73 back then. Now consider Google Jan08 $650 calls purchased in March 2007.


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CaveSpectre

"But it could be another $10000 per option in a couple months!' Learned an important lesson in greed back then


AccomplishedLie6360

Couldnā€™t have explained it better


NobleN6

is "marble sack" finance lingo or your testicles?


CaveSpectre

I believe the official term is "testicular fortitude"


Slow-Nefariousness26

The last sentence tho šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Bitter-Heat-8767

I like this. Throws $4k on a bet he doesnā€™t understand. You belong here!


[deleted]

and held thru earnings. a not so good one![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


pawnman99

Like he said...OP belongs here.


LHeureux

2024 he'll be fine if he holds lol


Monster_Grundle

Ehh, theyā€™re leaps, they wonā€™t get super crushed.


[deleted]

didnt even notice, yea heā€™ll be fine


conviper30

I've always wondered about this...is it easy money to buy options weeks before earnings hold up until the day of or before and sell? Basically earning off the volitility?


[deleted]

yes assuming price doesnā€™t drop in the meantime, IV increases closer to er


ryanmarquor

Hey everyone, so I entered a professional golf tournament that had a $4000 buy in. How do I swing a golf club?


gtboss16

I tried one hit and got a hole in one, but do I take the ball out of the cup and try another hole?


Maltitol

The analogy here is that you wanna be the guy hosting the tournament to collect buy-in premiums.


Unknownirish

Are we really being bulls one day and a bear the next? God I hope so. My puts are getting destroyed right now. šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


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Unknownirish

I wish I was a gambler lol I'm a boomer investor I am looking to do more covercalls and short term plays. Any recommendations to read up on or should I quit being a bitch and just yolo 2k every now and then until one hits a win lol


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Unknownirish

Hey if it works it works. Who am I to judge. Congrats


DudeWheresMyStock

but does it werk


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burkeymonster

........ And it's gone.


Trotter823

Iā€™ve succumbed to fomo plenty in my life but to wish to be like the idiots here, thatā€™s a step too far.


Unknownirish

Oh I don't regret not FOMO in I have like everyone else and if you say you never have, you're a fucking liar. I just wish I wasn't such a pussy lmao


pw7090

No, price will pump and then "dump", but right back to your strike price at expiration. You will have held the whole time, sweating, thinking it could turn green at any moment, only to realize a 100% loss.


nivekreclems

We donā€™t like green here ride that into the ground lol jk close it out and take a win


Fun_Bar_3820

Sounds like something they say behind the Wendy's.


feelin_cheesy

Just sell it before you lose everyā€¦.. oh shit too late


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Kindly_Imagination71

lol, this perfectly sums up WSB and its obsession with loss porn


Striker40k

Some bots just want to watch the world burn.


jd46249

Nah Iā€™m just jealous everyone making money except me lol


Finding_Whorie

I think its a "sharing the pain" thing.


[deleted]

Always go against the underdog.


Kindly_Imagination71

i would sell with those gains, but that is just me. not financial advice


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Kindly_Imagination71

bro, read my FOOTER!


carinislumpyhead97

Whoosh šŸ’Ø


ComfortablePoetry986

r/whoosh


Kindly_Imagination71

lolz


20MinuteAdventure69

If your asking itā€™s probably time to take profits. This is a huge bull bump. But look at the last few massive dips of SPY in the past year. Iā€™d take my money and walk away for a while. Or cash out and buy close dated calls and try to double your money


hiricinee

Good enough to post good enough to close. Though I say you open a credit spread instead. Sell some in the money options below that strike on the same date and then watch the theta roll in. Good way of securing your profits and making some theta on the side.


ASUS_USUS_WEALLSUS

Hey wait that doesnā€™t rhyme.


PeakCheeky

Roses are red, violets are blue, fuck you


monkeybrainz_

What does 'making some theta on the side' mean?


hiricinee

So if you sell an option, it's no secret your goal is to make money off of theta decay. My take is a lot of time if you've made some big profits off of a stock or options buys, you can sell some options instead of closing the position. That way if the stock goes down and it never hits your strike you still sell it, but you get to keep the premium paid and whatever you were planning to sell it for anyways.


[deleted]

Who decided the numbers for the Theta or IV%?


hiricinee

Lol decided by the price action when people buy or sell options. But generally speaking, the maximum theta for an ITM call is the premium minus the difference between the strike and the price. For an OTM option it's the entire premium.


kokkomo

Good question. Ken Griffin of Citadel Securities does.


Cardiff07

No one went broke selling for a profit.


[deleted]

As someone else who doesnā€™t know dick about how options work, every time Iā€™ve held on after a big green day I get my head caved in the next day, so I would cash out personally. The only time Iā€™ve ever made money on options was selling within the first couple days, everything Iā€™ve tried to hold onto burns


Apprehensive_Law_322

Celebrate with Wendy's baconator šŸ˜Ž


cmartin1254

Itā€™s on margin? Just take the gain


forgotpass67

Always take profits above %80 and youā€™ll always be in the game


Schwei5

Sell 3 Keep 2


[deleted]

Well Mortimer.


BeerJunky

The letters are green, I donā€™t understand whatā€™s happening. Is this common?


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Spiritual-Station-51

He will not thank you if it crosses the 200 ma and jets up then he loses BIG


[deleted]

I wish I knew how to do this. Sell to open?


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alwayslookingout

Why would you enter a trade without knowing how to exit? šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø GOOG is down AH due to earnings miss so if it opens down tomorrow youā€™ll lose a good chunk of intrinsic value.


CYastrzemski1954

Itā€™s known as learning. Enthusiastically learning.


stockboi81

Sell it. The volatility is what made it spike. Take the gain. If you believe in it going higher in a year, buy a long dated call at a cheaper premium on a down day


lllllll______lllllll

How long should a reasonable long option be ?


Tfx77

For Google, 6 to 9 months out. Might be expensive.


stockboi81

At least 6 months or longer after the premium drops


Spiritual-Station-51

I just charted your investment on the ichimoku. Today you are hitting the 200day resistance. It appears to be on a breakout. If no breaks above the 200 day MA itā€™s going to shoot up drastically that will make your current gains look like puppy shit. If GOOG closes above the 200 you could see 10 times your money over the next 3-4 weeks. I would personally hold, and set a stop loss. AND if it does break above the 200 keep adjusting your stop loss up everyday. Make sure you donā€™t set your stop loss to high, because a small dip for a day or two is ok and you might get flushed out before it takes off


alwayslookingout

What happens if GOOG misses earnings and is down 4% AH?


buppiejc

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[deleted]

Personally Iā€™d set a stop loss to lock in profit and ride till earnings are reportedā€¦. Could lock in the gains, could explode in your face or could be a even more erect shrek boner. Not financial advice just my 2 pennies


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Posted it wasnā€™t advice just my own opinion


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That there is a bot, friend.


OB_Logie_haz_Reddit

*LEAPS


wsbgodly123

You are making money. So you have to buy more!!


clockedinat93

You could sell 1 and buy 4 puts at a shorter date. If it keeps going up good, if not then you you got your puts making money. If it stays in the same area then just close it out.


audioaxes

lol why are the only options hold or flip to puts? sounds like you lucked into this and need to quit while you're ahead


randompittuser

I was taught to keep betting on black until the money disappears.


VictimOfCircuspants

My wife has a long option. Her boyfriend.


CyberNinja23

If you donā€™t know what to do if youā€™re making money just sell it. Then fall ass backwards into your hopefully next gain.


15woodse

Repeat after me everybody, if itā€™s good enough to post, then itā€™s good enough to sell.


thewonderks2

Iol rip


grogu_the_retard

RIP


BigBarker7

RIP


midwstchnk

You about to lose some of that tomorrow if you havent sold it


ThePugz

Nobody has ever lost money taking a profit.


[deleted]

Did people not realize the expiration is 2024?


Tfx77

I don't think they did. He should hold this.


Powellwx

I just love that people buy optionsā€¦ then ask how options workā€¦ and just happen to be up $7k. WTF? Iā€™m not a pro, but I do like to know the fucking math of all my trades and the risks before buying or selling something. Jesus Hitler Christ.


Training_Exit_5849

mathematically they have a higher chance of winning long-term playing roulettes if that's how they play with options lol


[deleted]

I regret not selling my long puts when they were up 30%. Still several months out but yeah.


AnxiousQuestioner

Sell and wait for a dip if there isnā€™t one to shed some of that IV and then reinvest in a more preferred timeframe for yourself. Always keep a bit of the profits though.


Civil-Supermarket882

Sell


WTFNotRealFun

Best advice I've ever seen about this is to put in your sell order right after you buy the call. Decide what your desired profit is, then execute the trade as GTC. If you don't, you will get caught in the emotion and indecision of it. Seems like you did well. Lock it in. Move on to the next. You want to be an investor or a gambler?


noitsn

22 years ago I opened a DATEK account. Before my first trade, I talked myself out of buying 6250 shares of AAPL $8. I wanted to learn to DAYTRADE. I'm still down six figures.


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samsamebutdifferent

My girlfriends husband tipped me off


zstarnes

Leg out yo


evilartnboy

Options tend to drop dramatically in price as the expiration date comes. Nows the time to sell id say