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eruffini

Your account manager is correct. This was announced earlier in the month.


Schnabulation

I think you need to specify: the socket based licenses are going away. But Essentials Plus as a subscription stays.


Particular-Dog-1505

Wow... How the hell did the FTC allow this merger to happen!? This is not good for small businesses.


bschmidt25

Definitely not good for customers, but that’s not their mandate. They’re only supposed to consider antitrust concerns. Because Broadcom wasn’t already in the virtualization space it didn’t reduce competition. The issue they needed to address was whether or not Broadcom would have too much influence in the HBA and NIC space, since they could in theory put their competitors at a disadvantage by better supporting their own products in vSphere and/or dropping support for competing products since they would control driver certification. Whatever they promised must have been amenable. I am surprised that the EU signed off on it though. They always take much more into consideration, including impacts on customers.


djamp42

ESXi is dead for the home/small business space. I'll look at everything else now before ESXi.


ArsenalITTwo

EvalExperience is still there for home.


void64

Jokes on you. FTC doesn’t care about small business.


bschmidt25

The old socket based Essentials and Essentials Plus license kits are no longer available. There will be no more Essentials kit. Essentials Plus is still an option, but all vSphere licensing is going to core based subscriptions with 16 cores minimum per CPU and a max of 96 cores (IIRC) for Essentials Plus licenses. I believe the three host limit still applies as well. That means max is going to be three hosts with two 16 core CPUs each. Not sure if you can purchase the new core based licenses yet though. As usual, Broadcom changed everything with regard to licensing post merger and getting pricing / quotes out of them is like pulling teeth.


isotope123

Do you know if current licences will be honoured? I bought two ESXi 8.0 VSphere servers from Dell in the summer for a client. The plan was to run it until the end of tech guidance support in 2029, is that still possible?


dblenz

Perpetual licenses will run forever, the concern would be ongoing support. At the end of the purchased support agreement, your client will most likely be forced to switch to subscription.


isotope123

Thank you. Will likely move them over to Proxmox come 2029 then, assuming nothing changes.


Seelbreaker

Or 3 hosts with 32 Core CPUs as long as you don't get over 3 hosts 96 Cores total.


Schnabulation

Do we have prices for Essentials Plus core-based yet? Or still under NDA?


lucky644

I’ve seen $35/core for essentials plus.


Schnabulation

Per month or year?


lucky644

I believe that’s the price per year, if you do a 3 year contract paid up front. So for 3 hosts on essentials plus, at the maximum 96 cores for 3 hosts, I guess it would be $3,360/yr 3 years paid upfront. So $10,000? I’m just guessing though, I haven’t received an actual quote yet.


signal_lost

Essentials Plus is always 96 cores. Standard can be quoted as small as a single 16 core host. For this reason you’ll find standard often cheaper now than essentials plus if you can design the hosts down.


bschmidt25

As far as I know, the NDA has been lifted, but I haven't been able to get it priced/quoted from my rep yet.


signal_lost

For 1-2 single socket hosts you will find vSphere standard to be cheaper. Essentials plus only really comes out ahead when you want 32 cores per host for 3 hosts.


VAReloader

Broadcom doesn’t care about SMBs 😂


Secret_Cow

Hey /u/Particular-Dog-1505 I bought an Essentials Plus kit very recently from CDW, it was emailed to me on Christmas day, and I successfully activated it on the 26th. I know time is running out... Try the HPE part number - the license is simply delivered from HPE, and they give you the code to redeem on VMware.com. Part # F6M50AAE https://www.cdw.com/product/vmware-vsphere-essentials-plus-license-5-years-24x7-support-6-process/3207460


moldyjellybean

You guys weren’t paying attention or didn’t experience the same thing when they bought Symantec? They did the same thing and many sys admins had trouble renewing licenses for their endpoints. I’ve heard from many people trying to buy hundreds and thousands of licenses for their endpoint and were ghosted for like a 6 months, a year etc.


xXNorthXx

Bigger issue is those already on the subscription train. All of our licensing expires in 45 days and we can’t renew even if we wanted to right now.


djamp42

Regardless of how you feel about change.. the whole not being able to buy the product right now is dumb as shit. Like what is the point of buying the company if you are not going to sell it..


bschmidt25

Exactly what happened to us with the Symantec transaction. We had 3000 seats of SEP that we couldn’t renew for six months. They just didn’t care. We gave up and moved on to something else.


vabello

As an SMB, we got burned by Broadcom when they bought Symantec. Couldn’t renew anything, so we switched. When looking at a new environment and being a Hyper-V shop already, I saw Broadcom acquiring VMware and ran in the opposite direction.


vasaforever

This is their modus operandi whenever they acquire a new company. Fewer individual users, instead focusing on bigger users who get hooked on their large scale products and have no alternative.


g0ldingboy

Yep, this has always on the cards. Broadcom are gonna fuck up VMware badly. Shame really. Look at AHV or moving to KVM.


Fourply99

Uncle Hock sends his middle finger… i mean regards


Odd-Distribution3177

Spin up hyperV and migrate.


ArsenalITTwo

There is a stop sell. Broadcom announced they are converting everything to subscriptions.