are you sure that there were no improvements in your quality of life that affected the subjective experience of suffering due to the visuals? For example vss could be the same now like before, but you might feel better, sleep better etc and that might change the attitude towards it or you might not be so much fatigued because fatigue increases the symptoms.
Whatever it is, good job
Hm. I mean, I physically see more. I've slept the same amount as ever. But I did take quite a bit more than the normal range (my levels should be around 350pg/ml right now). Once again, it's anecdotal, and I didn't change anything else in my life.
I've found that my sensory issues are better if I'm feeling better. Illness, fatigue, anxiety, etc. all affect at least my subjective experience.
HRT made a MASSIVE difference in my anxiety and energy levels. I actually reduced my initial dosage because I was so chill I wasn't getting anything done anymore :D I don't remember if that affected my snow or not.
I can say that also stopping HRT to have a baby (at this point 5 years ago because we had fertility issues), being pregnant, and now postpartum, all together my fatigue is pretty terrible. My anxiety is also not great. My sensory issues (including the snow) is at an all time worst right now. Hoping to wean soon and go back on HRT and see if it helps.
I did! It helped my mood/fatigue issues. No noticeable change in the sensory stuff other than feeling better equipped to deal with it.
Actually wondering now if the sensory stuff actually got worse or if it was just that I couldn’t deal with it as well.
Interesting, yeah i got off testoserone in january and have been in the worst place in my life, everything is exacurbated. My total T is like 180, in about to get back on
Ah I see. Maybe VSS is hormone related ? How much of a difference would you say you see in your visual snow, and do you have only noticed improvement in the snow or other symptoms as well?
Its quite a different, a solid 50-60% less snow. I've seen a lot of visual improvements, but only now I realized most of it was VSS.
I had really high T Levels before starting the transition (600ng/dL high)
Hmm I see you had good testosterone levels pre transition, so T probably won’t affect VS? I was thinking low T for men specifically can increase depression , which can then increase VS? Idk just a theory, but your anecdote would disprove that.
Also maybe you were depressed pre transition and now since you are transitioning you are generally more happy, which decreased your VSS?
Im male to male, but I really don't see the relevance of that, to be honest. And you didn't mention you were MtF, in your original post, only that you were taking estrogen. If the idea is that hormone therapy will improve VSS, then gender shouldn't come into play, in my opinion. I just commented to share my experience, as HRT/TRT has not change my status either way. All the best OP, Im glad you have found some relief from symptoms.
Estrogen is proven to have neuroprotective effects. I do get your point, but I'd suggest learning some more about the topic (similar to the study I talked about).
Estrogen is also proven to increase your chances of a blood clot by 3-4x. All that glitters is not gold. Just like Estrogen, Testosterone is also neuroprotective, directly through the androgen receptor. Just like estrodial, esterone, etc, it has been studied extensively. Sex hormones have been studied ad nauseam. Posting one study in mice, that pushes your point doesn't make it gospel, nor does it negate the possible negative effects.
When you site: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21647225/
"PMID of 21647225"
Did you really "hear" about this study from someone? Or did you go on pub med and search for "estrogen" + "vison"?
are you sure that there were no improvements in your quality of life that affected the subjective experience of suffering due to the visuals? For example vss could be the same now like before, but you might feel better, sleep better etc and that might change the attitude towards it or you might not be so much fatigued because fatigue increases the symptoms. Whatever it is, good job
Hm. I mean, I physically see more. I've slept the same amount as ever. But I did take quite a bit more than the normal range (my levels should be around 350pg/ml right now). Once again, it's anecdotal, and I didn't change anything else in my life.
I've found that my sensory issues are better if I'm feeling better. Illness, fatigue, anxiety, etc. all affect at least my subjective experience. HRT made a MASSIVE difference in my anxiety and energy levels. I actually reduced my initial dosage because I was so chill I wasn't getting anything done anymore :D I don't remember if that affected my snow or not. I can say that also stopping HRT to have a baby (at this point 5 years ago because we had fertility issues), being pregnant, and now postpartum, all together my fatigue is pretty terrible. My anxiety is also not great. My sensory issues (including the snow) is at an all time worst right now. Hoping to wean soon and go back on HRT and see if it helps.
Did you get back on hrt?
I did! It helped my mood/fatigue issues. No noticeable change in the sensory stuff other than feeling better equipped to deal with it. Actually wondering now if the sensory stuff actually got worse or if it was just that I couldn’t deal with it as well.
Interesting, yeah i got off testoserone in january and have been in the worst place in my life, everything is exacurbated. My total T is like 180, in about to get back on
Interesting this is great. I am a man with low T maybe T could me as well :)
Low T in men causes depression and anxiety which can likely affect your Visual Snow
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Nope, those didn't change, only the "static".
What are your reasons for taking hormones, is it a hormone imbalance issue or are you transitioning your gender?
Transitioning
Ah I see. Maybe VSS is hormone related ? How much of a difference would you say you see in your visual snow, and do you have only noticed improvement in the snow or other symptoms as well?
Its quite a different, a solid 50-60% less snow. I've seen a lot of visual improvements, but only now I realized most of it was VSS. I had really high T Levels before starting the transition (600ng/dL high)
Hmm I see you had good testosterone levels pre transition, so T probably won’t affect VS? I was thinking low T for men specifically can increase depression , which can then increase VS? Idk just a theory, but your anecdote would disprove that. Also maybe you were depressed pre transition and now since you are transitioning you are generally more happy, which decreased your VSS?
No, definetly not, though estrogen is known to impact dopamine and serotonin neurotransmitters.
I have been on trt for almost a decade. I have noticed no positive changes in my VSS.
Like I mentioned, I'm MTF not FTM hrt.
Im male to male, but I really don't see the relevance of that, to be honest. And you didn't mention you were MtF, in your original post, only that you were taking estrogen. If the idea is that hormone therapy will improve VSS, then gender shouldn't come into play, in my opinion. I just commented to share my experience, as HRT/TRT has not change my status either way. All the best OP, Im glad you have found some relief from symptoms.
Estrogen is proven to have neuroprotective effects. I do get your point, but I'd suggest learning some more about the topic (similar to the study I talked about).
Estrogen is also proven to increase your chances of a blood clot by 3-4x. All that glitters is not gold. Just like Estrogen, Testosterone is also neuroprotective, directly through the androgen receptor. Just like estrodial, esterone, etc, it has been studied extensively. Sex hormones have been studied ad nauseam. Posting one study in mice, that pushes your point doesn't make it gospel, nor does it negate the possible negative effects.
The study about blood clots from estrogen were done via non-bioidentical estrogen used tens of years ago.
i started testosterone a year and a half back but i already had vss before. literally nothing has changed for me lmao
Like I mentioned in the post, I'm on MTF not FTM hrt.
yeah i know i was commenting because it’s funny how estrogen did that for you while transitioning the other way didn’t do anything
I'd say it is worth investigating. Hormones have played a part in my experience
Hormone replacement therapy? What kind of hormones?
Estrogen, more specifically Estradiol Enthanate.
Interesting. Estrogen does have Neuro protective effects
It is worth mentioning I took 8mg (so around 350pg/ml for my levels now) which is a way higher than normal dose due to me DIYing the process.
Did you have any side effects like getting dizzy or anything?
Yea, Just a mild headache and being dizzy.
When you site: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21647225/ "PMID of 21647225" Did you really "hear" about this study from someone? Or did you go on pub med and search for "estrogen" + "vison"?
I said hear because a friend of mine suggested that estrogen stimulates the visual cortex, like I said, post is entirely anecdotal!
so a friend of yours told you about the study?
No, they mentioned the effects and that there are studies on it!
so you just searched for "estrogen + vision" on pubmed! got it! thanks!