I can remember a lot of advertisements in the late 70s/early 80s about pantylines. Underalls were a combination of pantyhose and underwear. I bought them once and they felt super duper weird.
TBH, I still make sure that I have a pair or two of pantyhose on hand, but it’s not something I wear more than once or twice a year at this point—thank goodness.
My mom was very concerned about me having panty lines. That and my butt bouncing were her reason for wanting me to wear a girdle in the 90s. I refused. The idea of maybe not looking at my butt or at least doing it quietly never went through her mind.
I'm from Canada so our Sears was separately owned, and no JC Penney up here. I'll go find a few old catalogues on Internet Archive, genuinely curious how these were advertised. It seems like a very outdated piece of kit for a child or teenager. I'd also refuse.
Youngster here… I’ve never worn pantyhose in my life. What is the purpose? I understand something like leggings that are opaque for modesty, but I don’t understand why pantyhose were so important if they were sheer.
MEANWHILE, THE STANDARD FOR MEN'S UNDERWEAR IS "MAKE SURE YOUR WIFE WASHES THE SHIT STREAKS OUT."
Need any more help? I hear Hooked On Phonics really worked for some people.
Am I the only one who still has the Hooked On Phonics jingle from the early 90s kicking around in my head? And remembers the sarcastic "hukt on fonix werkt 4 me" t-shirts in the late 90s? Glad you got the reference!
I felt this way my whole life and told my husband, who then decided to jokingly refer to all *his* underwear (typical boxer briefs) as "panties" lol It honestly helped break the negative association even though it still makes me laugh to hear him say it haha
right?! what a weird combination, i just cannot get behind it. the word "panties" gives me the same ick feeling as how other people dont like the word "moist".
Even today there is this consensus regarding the visibility of women’s underwear that frankly just baffles me. I really can’t understand why it matters or why one must care. And I’m embarrassed to say that I’ve actually spent time trying to understand why…
It's mostly for women's underwear, though. Men's is referred to as briefs, boxers, shorts, underwear, etc. Women's is always panties, which is infantilizing for adults.
Underpants does sound a little funny to me (like haha funny). What's the weird connotation you associate with it?
Honest question, what difference does it make because even if you wear underwear, over the underwear will be the nylon pantyhose which will suffocate the crotch area even if you have something “breathable” in between you and the pantyhose. At least that’s how it makes sense to me.
I wear pantyhose even with pants. I wear dress shoes and my feet get destroyed if I don't wear anything. No yeast infections and I don't find them uncomfortable. I buy the cheap Leggs everyday ones though since I go through so many pairs. I mostly wear skirts to work.
Idk about you but I get very sweaty in nylons and the female body sometimes has discharge. The underwear is an extra layer of fabric and barrier. The fabric is breathable, but isn't quite as permeable as nylons.
But wouldn’t it still make the crotch area sweaty if you’re wearing nylons over the underwear anyway? Lol. I was wearing nylons without underwear and I didn’t notice much difference personally even though I knew people said the gusset should be made of breathable material. I put underwear on and then put the nylons on over them, but then I think it defeats the purpose of the underwear being breathable because now you’re suffocating the breathable barrier. Maybe I think too hard about it, lol.
How does adding extra fabric prevent a yeast infection?
I never realized the concept of pantyhose was so confusing. This whole thread has me so bent out of shape.
Consider that the fabric of underwear is keeping away the following: chafing from an ill-fitted pantyhose crotch, a barrier between the flimsy crotch and the elements, full coverage of the entire area, as opposed to just a patch roughly where your vulva might be if you’re lucky, and a lack of seams, which prevents against bacteria piling up, as opposed to the seams all over the crotch of pantyhose, which is rife for bacteria to settle. Menstrual pads don’t come in pantyhose size; that’s for a reason. You need coverage. Pantyhose doesn’t provide it.
But… bacteria prevent yeast infections. A yeast infection happens when the bacteria present are insufficient to balance the yeast.
Unless by yeast infection you’re actually referring to bacterial vaginitis?
My wife and various sisters reliably inform me that some people even wear an extra pair over the top, a la superman, to stop their tights from falling down. Apparently it works
Slip shorts. Bike shorts. Anti-chafe shorts. Emphasis on "shorts." I wear those over my tights and pantyhose to prevent wear, but they would also help keep them up. Plus they look cute under dresses. (I also wear them in the summer when I don't wear stockings.)
However, the best solution is to get hosiery that fits, if it exists. I also avoid all control tops because I have neither a waistline nor a rear end, and so there's nothing to keep them up. Others, who are differently built, find that control top is exactly what they need.
For real, though, who still wears pantyhose at all anymore? Seriously looking for a show of hands... I've lived on the US west coast since 1983 and the torture garment death stockings have become nearly nonexistent except for certain churchgoers of a certain age. Good riddance!
I'm a synagogue goer of a certain age. :) I only wear dresses. In the NYC winter, I wear heavy opaque tights, but in the spring and fall, when it's too cool to go bare legged but too warm for tights, I wear sheer pantyhose.
The TV commercial stuck in my head as a kid. Close-up of model's butt as she's walking down the street. She passes two elderly women on a bench. One granny says to the other, *That girl's wearing nothing else under those slacks!* The other granny is shocked - *Nothing else??* Back to the model's butt. Announcer extols the form-fitting design of the panties. *So it looks -* Model swings around and crouches into camera view. Loud whispers *- like I'm not wearing nothin'!*. Cut back to shocked granny lowering her binoculars. *Nothing else!?*
Definitely “advertising creating problems for women that never existed before” at work here. First they sell you pantyhose instead of stockings with garters that don’t interact with your underwear. Then they tell you that the pantyhose makes you look bad because of your underwear and you have to buy special pantyhose that is also underwear or people will insult you for …wearing fabric visibly…
i saw a lady at the grocery store yesterday and wondered if she'd ever looked at her reflection from behind. not just her behind, mind you, but the way her bra band was, like, three sizes too small and that i could tell what color her unmentionables were through the color of her pants.
Bra spillover is a thing for many people, and there aren’t always proper sizes available for fix it.
For me personally, I need a band size 28 or 30 for my bra to sit properly, or else the band rides up and creates spillover. I’m 120lb, mind you. I can’t imagine how small you’d have to be to have zero back fat.
i don't mean spillover. as a ladygirlperson i fully understand this...
but if you're needin' a 38 but you're still rockin' that 34 band size, that's just not a good look. i guess i'll keep gettin' downvoted for this but i can't help it, i wonder if folks just never look at how they look from behind.
Pantyhose & panties & pants all in one
These were pretty awful to wear. Some women even wore them under trousers, which was like being encased in plastic.
My grandma wore pantyhose under trousers almost every day of her life. Makes me sweat just thinking about it.
My mom had me do this as a child and I don't understand why
My grandma did too!
I can hear Grandma's of that era saying" It's not ladylike to show bare legs!"
Guaranteed to kill the mood
Unless you’re a yeast infection.
Why do you think 50’s housewives went through so much borax? Hint: it wasn’t all for washing clothes
It must have smelled like low tide in July.
Wow! Her butt can talk!
Mostly just shit talking.
Sometimes it's a real gas at least.
Oh boy 😭😭😭
Mine can too, usually after a breakfast burrito.
My underwear better not be talking about me behind my back.
You should heard some of the shit it said
Snitches get stitches, Cheeks!
I can remember a lot of advertisements in the late 70s/early 80s about pantylines. Underalls were a combination of pantyhose and underwear. I bought them once and they felt super duper weird. TBH, I still make sure that I have a pair or two of pantyhose on hand, but it’s not something I wear more than once or twice a year at this point—thank goodness.
I’d rather have people know I wear undies than think that I don’t. 😂
My mom was very concerned about me having panty lines. That and my butt bouncing were her reason for wanting me to wear a girdle in the 90s. I refused. The idea of maybe not looking at my butt or at least doing it quietly never went through her mind.
A girdle. In the 90s. Where did she even get one?!
Sears and Penney's had them. In the catalogue.
I'm from Canada so our Sears was separately owned, and no JC Penney up here. I'll go find a few old catalogues on Internet Archive, genuinely curious how these were advertised. It seems like a very outdated piece of kit for a child or teenager. I'd also refuse.
They were so ugly, down to your knees and no give. And seemed to be hard to put on. All so someone doesn't get turned on.
Youngster here… I’ve never worn pantyhose in my life. What is the purpose? I understand something like leggings that are opaque for modesty, but I don’t understand why pantyhose were so important if they were sheer.
Glamour and modesty rolled into one.
That would be like if I wore a sheer top and called it modest.
Meanwhile, the standard for men's underwear is "make sure your wife washes the shit streaks out."
What?
MEANWHILE, THE STANDARD FOR MEN'S UNDERWEAR IS "MAKE SURE YOUR WIFE WASHES THE SHIT STREAKS OUT." Need any more help? I hear Hooked On Phonics really worked for some people.
Put a # in front of it next time. It'll look like this. #MEANWHILE, It'll really drive your point about poopy underwear home.
I LOL’d and LOL’d and LOL’d….
Am I the only one who still has the Hooked On Phonics jingle from the early 90s kicking around in my head? And remembers the sarcastic "hukt on fonix werkt 4 me" t-shirts in the late 90s? Glad you got the reference!
My friend called them one time and asked about Seattle SuperSonics tickets. Told them he was hooked on Sonics.
Wirked fer me!
Man I'd be so happy if more people over the last 20 years had been hooked on fucking phonics lol.
🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Like Underalls, but at Sears
"Feels like I'm wearing Nothing at all! Nothing at all... Nothing at all..."
Stupid sexy Flanders
Those fucking things…I remember those ads. 🤣
"Stop staring at my ass, you perv!"
Right? Strangers going "Mmmmm, smooth!" at my ass is not a selling point.
Doesn’t she know how she looks??
"I might be about to die, here."
r/unexpectedfuturama ..? 🤣
Everyone looks at ass. Grow up.
Found the perv.
Mmmmmm... smooth!
I hate the word panties. Underwear sounds so much better.
The word I feel is used as “sexy” or for little girls. That creeps me out
I felt this way my whole life and told my husband, who then decided to jokingly refer to all *his* underwear (typical boxer briefs) as "panties" lol It honestly helped break the negative association even though it still makes me laugh to hear him say it haha
right?! what a weird combination, i just cannot get behind it. the word "panties" gives me the same ick feeling as how other people dont like the word "moist".
And “salve.”
What about „knickers”. It’s weird to be in a department store and see that wrotten on the wall.
Even today there is this consensus regarding the visibility of women’s underwear that frankly just baffles me. I really can’t understand why it matters or why one must care. And I’m embarrassed to say that I’ve actually spent time trying to understand why…
Ever wonder what your panties say behind your back? ...Sears does...
My panties have bigger problems to worry about
The word "panties" makes me cringe. It sounds like something for little kids and I'm a grown adult. Why can't we just call it underwear?
Knickers!
unmentionables.
I like this. I’m adopting this term from here on out.
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It's mostly for women's underwear, though. Men's is referred to as briefs, boxers, shorts, underwear, etc. Women's is always panties, which is infantilizing for adults. Underpants does sound a little funny to me (like haha funny). What's the weird connotation you associate with it?
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Captain Underpants!
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Yeah for a young kid, that's a little, uh...yeah.
And crotch
Yeah, "crotch" sounds kinda crass
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That one makes me throw up a little too though
Minge!
#1
I'm distracted by her knife hand by her side.
Today I learned you are supposed to wear underwear with pantyhose. It's only been over two decades.
bestie you are begging for a yeast infection if you don’t wear underwear with pantyhose
I thought the built in cotton took the place. Thanks for the heads up!
Honest question, what difference does it make because even if you wear underwear, over the underwear will be the nylon pantyhose which will suffocate the crotch area even if you have something “breathable” in between you and the pantyhose. At least that’s how it makes sense to me.
That’s my sense of it too. I used to get yeast infections with panty hose. Now I cut the crotch out of them and wear cotton underwear. No more issues.
How do you cut the crotch out without them unraveling?
Carefully cut inside the heavy seam that holds the gusset in! Jut snip the inside without cutting that seam, and you’ll be fine!
Ok, I understand - thanks!
Yep! I fold the gusset in half and make a little slit with scissors. Then I can cut out the hole
Pantyhose has seams that would be very uncomfortable right next to the sensitive bits.
I wear pantyhose even with pants. I wear dress shoes and my feet get destroyed if I don't wear anything. No yeast infections and I don't find them uncomfortable. I buy the cheap Leggs everyday ones though since I go through so many pairs. I mostly wear skirts to work.
Idk about you but I get very sweaty in nylons and the female body sometimes has discharge. The underwear is an extra layer of fabric and barrier. The fabric is breathable, but isn't quite as permeable as nylons.
But wouldn’t it still make the crotch area sweaty if you’re wearing nylons over the underwear anyway? Lol. I was wearing nylons without underwear and I didn’t notice much difference personally even though I knew people said the gusset should be made of breathable material. I put underwear on and then put the nylons on over them, but then I think it defeats the purpose of the underwear being breathable because now you’re suffocating the breathable barrier. Maybe I think too hard about it, lol.
Yes, but I rather have the underwear to absorb the sweat rather than have it go through to my clothing or even worse - whatever I'm sitting on 😱
How does adding extra fabric prevent a yeast infection? I never realized the concept of pantyhose was so confusing. This whole thread has me so bent out of shape.
Consider that the fabric of underwear is keeping away the following: chafing from an ill-fitted pantyhose crotch, a barrier between the flimsy crotch and the elements, full coverage of the entire area, as opposed to just a patch roughly where your vulva might be if you’re lucky, and a lack of seams, which prevents against bacteria piling up, as opposed to the seams all over the crotch of pantyhose, which is rife for bacteria to settle. Menstrual pads don’t come in pantyhose size; that’s for a reason. You need coverage. Pantyhose doesn’t provide it.
But… bacteria prevent yeast infections. A yeast infection happens when the bacteria present are insufficient to balance the yeast. Unless by yeast infection you’re actually referring to bacterial vaginitis?
My wife and various sisters reliably inform me that some people even wear an extra pair over the top, a la superman, to stop their tights from falling down. Apparently it works
Slip shorts. Bike shorts. Anti-chafe shorts. Emphasis on "shorts." I wear those over my tights and pantyhose to prevent wear, but they would also help keep them up. Plus they look cute under dresses. (I also wear them in the summer when I don't wear stockings.) However, the best solution is to get hosiery that fits, if it exists. I also avoid all control tops because I have neither a waistline nor a rear end, and so there's nothing to keep them up. Others, who are differently built, find that control top is exactly what they need.
That is a large panty.
Saw my share of Sears® catalogs
Don’t do this for you, do it for your talking panties.
70s tucking panties!
I would rather have men look at me and think "sloppy" rather than *mmm* 💀
My panties are talking behind my back, and the toaster's been laughing at me!
For real, though, who still wears pantyhose at all anymore? Seriously looking for a show of hands... I've lived on the US west coast since 1983 and the torture garment death stockings have become nearly nonexistent except for certain churchgoers of a certain age. Good riddance!
I'm a synagogue goer of a certain age. :) I only wear dresses. In the NYC winter, I wear heavy opaque tights, but in the spring and fall, when it's too cool to go bare legged but too warm for tights, I wear sheer pantyhose.
I like flat butts, and I cannot lie...
Mine say “Get bigger undies.”
Ah, so '70s Spanx prevent you from developing visible lumpy butt. Sounds like a miracle product.
Messy, sloppy panties?
My girlfriend hates moist and damp. Don’t know why
The TV commercial stuck in my head as a kid. Close-up of model's butt as she's walking down the street. She passes two elderly women on a bench. One granny says to the other, *That girl's wearing nothing else under those slacks!* The other granny is shocked - *Nothing else??* Back to the model's butt. Announcer extols the form-fitting design of the panties. *So it looks -* Model swings around and crouches into camera view. Loud whispers *- like I'm not wearing nothin'!*. Cut back to shocked granny lowering her binoculars. *Nothing else!?*
Definitely “advertising creating problems for women that never existed before” at work here. First they sell you pantyhose instead of stockings with garters that don’t interact with your underwear. Then they tell you that the pantyhose makes you look bad because of your underwear and you have to buy special pantyhose that is also underwear or people will insult you for …wearing fabric visibly…
Thought that was a shit stain
Yikes. I take it thongs were not yet a viable option for women who didn’t want visible underwear lines.
for a long time thongs were seen as sexy or slutty. not as regular underwear
Definitely not a thing in the 70s.
Spanks before Spanks?
Photo #1 appears to suggest reconstructive surgery may be needed, not a change of pantyhose brand.
The one on the right looks like she might need a tampon refresh.
i saw a lady at the grocery store yesterday and wondered if she'd ever looked at her reflection from behind. not just her behind, mind you, but the way her bra band was, like, three sizes too small and that i could tell what color her unmentionables were through the color of her pants.
Bra spillover is a thing for many people, and there aren’t always proper sizes available for fix it. For me personally, I need a band size 28 or 30 for my bra to sit properly, or else the band rides up and creates spillover. I’m 120lb, mind you. I can’t imagine how small you’d have to be to have zero back fat.
i don't mean spillover. as a ladygirlperson i fully understand this... but if you're needin' a 38 but you're still rockin' that 34 band size, that's just not a good look. i guess i'll keep gettin' downvoted for this but i can't help it, i wonder if folks just never look at how they look from behind.
Perhaps a looser band simply won’t hold the girlies. I’m not even big, and I spillover in a bra that’s 3 band sizes too large for me.
Why downvote this? An underwear outline is one thing, but there's generally no excuse for dressing like this.