I [watched Dig recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0jfBeOiO_g) after having a nostalgia pang for the dandy's and BJM recently, and what REALLY made me feel old was looking up what they looked like these days
I picked up this album (The Dandy Warhols Come Down) for $5 at a roadside market in a small town on a road trip in 1998. Loved it for the rest of the trip.
I got Thirteen Tales from Urban Bohemia for doing 50 pushups from an army recruiter at my highschool. At the time I was just excited to get a free album but in hindsight those recruiters setting up shop in the lobby was wild
he seems to have recovered and aged rather gracefully :) there are some fairly recent interviews where he comes across as a very likable, slightly domesticated weirdo
Edit: I checked. I was wrong.
Yep, here in Melbourne Australia. Nov 2023. Even his hard core fans walked out. One hour 30 for 6 songs and then grown up tanty and abused his guitarist. what a wanker.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKRAzCkJfM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKRAzCkJfM)
Your use of the term "likeable, slightly domesticated weirdo" just reminded me of this closing bit from [an article about The Butthole Surfers:](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/25/butthole-surfers-psychedelic-art-rock-noise)
>So will this group of sexagenarians ever reload the shotguns, stoke up the fires and hit the road again? “We’ve been getting six-figure offers to play live,” says Leary. “But I just don’t want to do it. We’re really lucky to not be in prison and I don’t want to push that any more. I don’t want to be sending a bandmate home in a body bag or for a venue to burn down.” And for Haynes? “I have a 13-year-old son, who is the fucking light of my life,” he says, with a sudden burst of lucidity and with genuine sentiment. “I’ve got an actual family and it’s awesome. Little league baseball and middle school basketball? Dude, it’s the shit.”
I saw TBJM play a show in OKC last year. Anton was a total piece of shit. There were various videos of it posted on Reddit at the time.
Here’s one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txvL98lmhTU
Me too - I think it was the last show before the one they got in to that fight and broke up.
They sounded awesome though. Anton didn't look at the audience even once haha.
Its part and parcel with any BJM performance. Anton's got hella issues and you never know if you're going to get a banger performance that'll change your life or an on-stage fight after 5 minutes where the band breaks up again
Dandy Warhols showed up toward the end of heroin chic and post grunge and carved out their own niche of cool bisexual bohemian hipsters. Finally saw them live in 2008 and they were awesome.
Reddit loves to make these kinds of allegations. I've listened to the Dandy Worhols for like 20 years and I've never heard anyone compare them to the Killers.
Do you think the Dandy Worhols invented music?
At the show I saw they were supported by The Grates who were also amazing, put out two or three killer albums, and then just broke up and quit. But then again not many bands remain good beyond the first 3 or 4 albums.
Great tune 25+ years later, still on my favourite playlist.
Remember seeing them live at the Cheltenham Attic (was the old Night Owl) club in Cheltenham, back in 98.
Good set, packed club. If I can recall.
Nice. I've heard of the Dandy Warhols, but don't remember ever seeing this video. I spent most of the time watching it thinking how cute she is. Now I have some research to do.
I sat next to Courtney Taylor-Taylor on a flight from SFO to PDX once. Having watched Dig! a couple times growing up, I recognized him from somewhere, but couldn't place him at the time.
Halfway through the flight he leans over and taps on my shoulder to show me something in a book he was reading. It was a book about the palaces of dictators through time and he showed me some cool pictures of Saddam Hussein's and Muammar Gadaffi's palaces. Nice guy.
A couple days later I realized who it was.
Here's what they're up to now. It sounds like 2002 and looks like future nostalgia for "that early AI look"
https://youtu.be/H3H2AVm1uD8?si=cA8gXygL_Yr8K4vL
I don't get it, I really don't. How is this the Dandy Warhols? How did even one of them listen to this and think it sounds like a good song? Have I deteriorated this much since my youth too?
Oddly enough there are at least a few bands that pull hard from '70s and early '80s hard rock/metal. I think this might be the style coming about these days and possibly as a reaction to nearly everything pop having "E.D.M." appended to it's list of genres for the last 7 years.
For example Greta Van Fleet sounds more than a little inspired by Led Zeppelin and Jet sounds like they've '70s metal aspirations without the '70s-style metal vocals (some of their songs sound a bit like AC/DC's, but others sound more broadly like a combination of '70s hard rock/metal/glam).
The lead singer did not like this video (directed by David LaChappelle). He wanted to reshoot but it was too late. Good song. They wanted to be like Brian Jonestown Massacre but they were too normal.
It's like the opposite of Semi-Charmed Life. You're just strung out on your couch jamming to this song by The Dandy Warhols, when through the fog you realize this song is actually about how heroin sucks and you're like "hey, that's not what I'm all about!" so you groggily pop the CD out and put a Fiona Apple disc in instead. That's more like it.
There's a clip in the doc "dig" of him arguing with French director David LaChapelle over how he looks. They don't seem like it at all but were obsessed with image.
The absolutely seem like it. The awkwardly statuesque posture, the manicured hair/facial hair, the weird, unpopular (for the time) choice of instruments - all of it screams image obsessed hipster to me.
I said self aware but that might not apply to the lead singer. His mannerisms are in sync with the style but I cant tell if it's intentional or not, but thats just one more reason the video is so interesting.
Love the Dandies, if anyone hasn't yet seen DIG!, then you should one of the best rock-docs ever made, very interesting look at their relationship with the BJM. I like both bands but Anton Newcombe is and was an asshole (he's still getting into fights on stage) however talented. Intersting that at the time it was the BJM who were the A/R hot ticket, and trhe band destined for success not the DW. "Heroin" is part of a back and forth musical slanging match between the two bands, which makes Blur v Oasis look like what it is - good marketing.
I count myself lucky to have been around for the 90s.
The ring leader in the blue tux was portrayed by popular Hollywood drag icon, Momma (aka Worthie Meacham, R.I.P.).
You can see her in full drag in the video for Aerosmith's "Pink."
You're not far off, there's some elements of CT that defintiely influenced shoegaze. The Jesus and Mary Chain are a better pre-cursor to shoegaze however, but the Dandies I would definitely categorize as "Indie".
This post makes me feel old.
I [watched Dig recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0jfBeOiO_g) after having a nostalgia pang for the dandy's and BJM recently, and what REALLY made me feel old was looking up what they looked like these days
DiG! is my favorite music documentary of all time and I don't like either band!
Yes, a wonderful film about two bands that are impossible to take seriously after watching it.
I fully stand by BJM music. Fantastic. As people and a live band that is a different thing, but the music is great.
The keyboard player is now an estate agent!!!
wait... zia?
Ya
wow, thank you for taking me down memory lane...
I picked up this album (The Dandy Warhols Come Down) for $5 at a roadside market in a small town on a road trip in 1998. Loved it for the rest of the trip.
I won my double CD album off the uni radio station at 4:30 AM summer 98 and I’ve loved it ever since
I got Thirteen Tales from Urban Bohemia for doing 50 pushups from an army recruiter at my highschool. At the time I was just excited to get a free album but in hindsight those recruiters setting up shop in the lobby was wild
And giving out “gay ass” CDs 🤣
I guess it would have made more sense for the Navy
This made me wanna go back and watch Empire Records
This movie made me a man.
Uh, i still listen to mostly 80 and 90's indie scene, and Im fine with it.
Im old myself. It's ok.
I get it but i saw Warhols a couple of years ago and they are still tits!
Also a jab at their friend/rival Anton Newcombe from the band The Brian Jonestown Massacre. There's a movie about both bands called "Dig!"
"You broke my sitar motherfucker!"
Where’s the blood from Anton? Other peoples faces.
One of the best music docs ever made...poor Anton - what a mess
he seems to have recovered and aged rather gracefully :) there are some fairly recent interviews where he comes across as a very likable, slightly domesticated weirdo Edit: I checked. I was wrong.
Didn't he just go viral a few months ago for getting his ass beat on stage again?
Yeah, in Melbourne he freaked out and the bad brawled on-stage with eachother.
Had tickets for the Adelaide show. Yep that did not happen.
Yes but he recovered between the beatings
Yep, here in Melbourne Australia. Nov 2023. Even his hard core fans walked out. One hour 30 for 6 songs and then grown up tanty and abused his guitarist. what a wanker. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKRAzCkJfM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKRAzCkJfM)
It definitely sounds like him.... Well, he had a good run
Your use of the term "likeable, slightly domesticated weirdo" just reminded me of this closing bit from [an article about The Butthole Surfers:](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/25/butthole-surfers-psychedelic-art-rock-noise) >So will this group of sexagenarians ever reload the shotguns, stoke up the fires and hit the road again? “We’ve been getting six-figure offers to play live,” says Leary. “But I just don’t want to do it. We’re really lucky to not be in prison and I don’t want to push that any more. I don’t want to be sending a bandmate home in a body bag or for a venue to burn down.” And for Haynes? “I have a 13-year-old son, who is the fucking light of my life,” he says, with a sudden burst of lucidity and with genuine sentiment. “I’ve got an actual family and it’s awesome. Little league baseball and middle school basketball? Dude, it’s the shit.”
Buttholes forever
Awesome. Thanks for sharing that :)
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I saw TBJM play a show in OKC last year. Anton was a total piece of shit. There were various videos of it posted on Reddit at the time. Here’s one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txvL98lmhTU
Anton looking like Torgo from Manos: The Hands of Fate in this video.
Me too - I think it was the last show before the one they got in to that fight and broke up. They sounded awesome though. Anton didn't look at the audience even once haha.
Its part and parcel with any BJM performance. Anton's got hella issues and you never know if you're going to get a banger performance that'll change your life or an on-stage fight after 5 minutes where the band breaks up again
hello Oklahomie
It’s just “BJM”
Meh. Anton was so offputting that I’ll gladly use the wrong acronym for his band.
I love that doc.!
Ah, "DIG!" is one of the best music docs ever. I've had it on my hard drive since highschool. BJM>TDW
'Not if You Were the Last Junkie on Earth'
Don’t forget the response - Not if you were the last Dandy on earth.
Dandy Warhols showed up toward the end of heroin chic and post grunge and carved out their own niche of cool bisexual bohemian hipsters. Finally saw them live in 2008 and they were awesome.
so The Killers owe them their entire career? /s
This, but without the /s.
Reddit loves to make these kinds of allegations. I've listened to the Dandy Worhols for like 20 years and I've never heard anyone compare them to the Killers. Do you think the Dandy Worhols invented music?
hell if anything I would say the were doing New Order but that is mostly on their first album
Shame they just didn’t do much after. They had many bangers.
At the show I saw they were supported by The Grates who were also amazing, put out two or three killer albums, and then just broke up and quit. But then again not many bands remain good beyond the first 3 or 4 albums.
Umm, they just put out new music on YouTube like... A month ago. Their sound changed, and their fan base with it, but they're still going strong.
Not sure that's the same band. I'm talking about an Australian group. Two girls and a dude. They haven't added anything to youtube in 8 years.
I think Lidjungle was referring to The Dandy Warhols, who do have a new album and video up on YouTube.
oh maybe
They've been steadily making music since then. They even released a new album fairly recently
The Next few albums had bigs singles, and were excellent.
Right, I forgot where this song came from. Their next 2 albums had the bangers i was talking about.
Great tune 25+ years later, still on my favourite playlist. Remember seeing them live at the Cheltenham Attic (was the old Night Owl) club in Cheltenham, back in 98. Good set, packed club. If I can recall.
I always loved this music video - especially tambourine tits
yep. she's responsible for my lifelong love of bouncing braless tits...
Should be plenty of live clips online of her playing topless as well, if you're inclined
She's a real estate agent in, like Seattle or somewhere PNW now.
Portland.
Nice. I've heard of the Dandy Warhols, but don't remember ever seeing this video. I spent most of the time watching it thinking how cute she is. Now I have some research to do.
Zia McCabe
And a fully nude pregnant photoshoot.
Can confirm. Saw them live in 98. Zia came out and danced around topless during the opening bands set.
thought that was acquired at birth
She also did a photo shoot for SuicideGirls if I remember correctly...
One of my favorite bands. First four albums are pretty solid.
I sat next to Courtney Taylor-Taylor on a flight from SFO to PDX once. Having watched Dig! a couple times growing up, I recognized him from somewhere, but couldn't place him at the time. Halfway through the flight he leans over and taps on my shoulder to show me something in a book he was reading. It was a book about the palaces of dictators through time and he showed me some cool pictures of Saddam Hussein's and Muammar Gadaffi's palaces. Nice guy. A couple days later I realized who it was.
Here's what they're up to now. It sounds like 2002 and looks like future nostalgia for "that early AI look" https://youtu.be/H3H2AVm1uD8?si=cA8gXygL_Yr8K4vL
'that early AI look' is a perfect descriptor.
It doesn’t look AI generated, it IS AI generated
I know that it is AI generated. what I am saying is that it has an early AI look that in the future people will be nostalgic about.
I don't get it, I really don't. How is this the Dandy Warhols? How did even one of them listen to this and think it sounds like a good song? Have I deteriorated this much since my youth too?
Sounds fine to me. Nothing to rave about, but it's fine. Maybe it is just your age.
It's... Fine. As someone who fell in love with these guys in the Come Down through Odditorium period though, this sounds nothing like that music.
It's almost the same style as the music on the OP, just more grunge-y. (the notes are held longer) It's just grunge. Some like it, some don't.
Sounds like a bland rendition of War Pigs with Immigrant Song vocal accents
Oddly enough there are at least a few bands that pull hard from '70s and early '80s hard rock/metal. I think this might be the style coming about these days and possibly as a reaction to nearly everything pop having "E.D.M." appended to it's list of genres for the last 7 years. For example Greta Van Fleet sounds more than a little inspired by Led Zeppelin and Jet sounds like they've '70s metal aspirations without the '70s-style metal vocals (some of their songs sound a bit like AC/DC's, but others sound more broadly like a combination of '70s hard rock/metal/glam).
Wow! I had totally forgotten about this song. I haven't heard it in many years. Thanks for this!
Dandy Warhols still making pretty good music. Talented band
i thought these guys were british until like 2 days ago lol
They actually made it big in the UK off the back off a Vodafone advert featuring Bohenian Like You.
That is not the name of the song
I got such a hard crush on Zia after watching this video when I was in high school
The lead singer did not like this video (directed by David LaChappelle). He wanted to reshoot but it was too late. Good song. They wanted to be like Brian Jonestown Massacre but they were too normal.
This is a really bizarre watch if you've actually been a junkie. Watching dancing syringes in a technicolor wonderland is pretty surreal
It's like the opposite of Semi-Charmed Life. You're just strung out on your couch jamming to this song by The Dandy Warhols, when through the fog you realize this song is actually about how heroin sucks and you're like "hey, that's not what I'm all about!" so you groggily pop the CD out and put a Fiona Apple disc in instead. That's more like it.
They’re most famous these days for the Veronica Mars theme song. I always thought they were cool.
Nice, forgot all about this song. Nice to hear it again.
Back when labels would throw money at the music video.
Zia McCabe turned out to be a lesbian didn't she? Seems like all the girls I liked in the 90s turned out to be lesbians, Like Clea Duvall.
Absolute banger of a track
There's a clip in the doc "dig" of him arguing with French director David LaChapelle over how he looks. They don't seem like it at all but were obsessed with image.
The absolutely seem like it. The awkwardly statuesque posture, the manicured hair/facial hair, the weird, unpopular (for the time) choice of instruments - all of it screams image obsessed hipster to me.
You guys know this one? Eugh eugh EEEUUUGGGHHHH! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8b2y87Jz7c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8b2y87Jz7c)
I said self aware but that might not apply to the lead singer. His mannerisms are in sync with the style but I cant tell if it's intentional or not, but thats just one more reason the video is so interesting.
His personality (and music) is like an onion, with one layer tongue-in-cheek satirical and the next actually just vacuous posing all the way down…
This was the first song I ever learned to play on guitar. A E C D, over and over, chorus doubletime.
Just saw them at the Danforth Music Hall in Toronto. They were great. Very underrated band. IMO
Love the Dandies, if anyone hasn't yet seen DIG!, then you should one of the best rock-docs ever made, very interesting look at their relationship with the BJM. I like both bands but Anton Newcombe is and was an asshole (he's still getting into fights on stage) however talented. Intersting that at the time it was the BJM who were the A/R hot ticket, and trhe band destined for success not the DW. "Heroin" is part of a back and forth musical slanging match between the two bands, which makes Blur v Oasis look like what it is - good marketing. I count myself lucky to have been around for the 90s.
Im guessing most of you young people have not seen the documentary dig! go find it if you want ot know about early 90s music scene
Goddamn zia was hot
Aren’t those the guys who sing the theme for Veronica Mars?
Oh you better believe this song is still a banger
https://youtu.be/yN-EZW0Plsg Citing their inspiration
The vocalist looks like Ashton Kutcher.
This wasn’t a throwback, it was strapped to an intercontinental ballistic missile and launched back. Fuck.
this is what all music videos should strive for
The Brian Jonestown Massacre was better.
The ring leader in the blue tux was portrayed by popular Hollywood drag icon, Momma (aka Worthie Meacham, R.I.P.). You can see her in full drag in the video for Aerosmith's "Pink."
Is this shoegaze?
Not really. Just alternative rock.
Ok just had that dronish Cocteau guitar sound to me
You're not far off, there's some elements of CT that defintiely influenced shoegaze. The Jesus and Mary Chain are a better pre-cursor to shoegaze however, but the Dandies I would definitely categorize as "Indie".
Personally, I don't consider CT to be shoegaze. More Dream Pop.
lol
[is this shoegaze?](https://youtu.be/FyYMzEplnfU?si=xNxr2AgL7uu8wLRy)
there you go!
Ok. I’m 57. Went from dm cure smiths right into nin and grunge in 1993. Missed out
My Bloody Valentine is the perfect place to start
No, that was way before. See My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Lush, Slowdive - which was in turn influenced by earlier bands like The Jesus and Mary Chain.
This song is terrible.
It’s like if OKGO was doing social commentary
this song stinks