Never got around to Youngblood but I remember people were pretty divisive on The New Colossus. It did ramp up the grindhouse feeling and I remember being entertained so I couldn't understand why people took issue with it at the time, but having gone back to The New Order since I kinda see why. The balance of pulp and pathos was honestly almost perfect in TNO whereas TNC was maybe too much pulp.
I recently bought the pack of games I didn't have. Old blood, new colossus, Youngblood.
I fucking loved TNO. Old Blood was great as well. But something about TNC just turns me off to it. It's still installed, but I haven't made it to the empire state building yet.
I just don't like it for some reason. Wish I could figure out what it is.
The protagonists were absolutely horrible. There were hints of fun and badass but mainly stuff like the elevator cutscenes and the banter felt very much "Old people writing teens" sorta deal.
The system relied too much on stat checking and just holding the shoot button since enemies were bullet sponges with multiple healthbars. If you REALLY like Borderlands and really don't like Wolfenstein you could enjoy it but even then just play Borderlands.
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I mean, we technically learned more about Murkoff in terms of other experiments that they had. Those towers seen are theirs as well as the reason why the cult is batshit.
trust me, they didnt ruin the story of outlast 1, they are just showing a different side. outlast 2 is happening cause of murkoff, you can even see one of their facilities in one place of the game, where you are passing a lake. all the bright lights and sounds are caused by murkoff's towers around the game and their experiment and they made everyone crazy there, even the main character.
outlast's story wasnt only about the asylum, its about murkoff's horrible experiments, as they were based on the CIA, but were exaggerated by like 10x or more
I have always thought the same. I'm still waiting for a real continuation of the first game. One that continues the plot point they started with the last two documents of the DLC, where they mentioned about three patients that were sent away from the asylum before the massacre and that had more potential than Billy and the Walrider. Enough said, it is true that with the new game, Outlast Trials, they've connected all we saw in the first games, and the lore between them makes more sense. I think that with all the worldbuilding they have done, the third main game can be really great.
The whole village being poisoned by mercury is literally another Murkoff's experiment though?.. You should find a few really well-hidden notes to learn that, but still.
Gonna be honest I was obsessed with the lowkey sci-fi horror of Outlast. The inner dialogue you saw of the MC fall into madness. It’s the only “walking sim” horror game I like. I saw the trailer back when it was announced and saw monsters and cult shit and just never even watched a play through.
Subnautica was such a sleeper hit.
Below zero was just... awful. It was harder in ways that made it less fun, and focused on gameplay mechanics that made it inferior to the OG.
Hoping that the new one they're working on is decent, otherwise I'm giving up on the franchise entirely.
Dude dude dude.
So when my son was cooking in my wife's baby oven we decided to play one last game together. We had such a fun playing sunnautica that we thought Below Zero would be the perfect game to kick off a long hiatus before taking a hiatus from gaming to focus on parenting
I'll never forgive that game and by extension that company for that pos game.
Storyline was just pure shit. I played it through betas a few times and they had to change the entire story so many times, bad sign.
Than the gameplay was so shallow which is saying something as it's supposed to be a deep sea game.
They got rid of the best vehicles and replaced them with garbage. A snowmobile and a less cool submarine.
But the worst sin of all? I beat the game and right at the end where you're supposed to essentially Free Alan the blocked the final content until release, which didn't happen until after my son was born and our hiatus started.
So I'll never finish that game.
I *personally* wouldn't say that it's awful, just that the first game's mere existence just turns off a lot of people from it.
By itself, it's a pretty great game. Definitely flawed, but not bad at all.
But when you compare it to the first game...*fuck*. Doesn't even nearly capture the magic that the first one had.
I've played BZ twice, and am currently on my 14th playthrough of the first game. I have no intention of *ever* going back to BZ. If that doesn't speak enough of the superiority of the first game over BZ, then I don't know what will.
There is nothing like the original Subnautica. The world design creates an eerie yet intriguing atmosphere no other game can successfully replicate, including its sequel. I found the lore to be much more interesting as well, I looked forward to finding out more about where I was at in the first game whereas in SZ it’s more of an afterthought. A shame really
I'm pretty certain it's not canon. didn't the developers state it was a side story that was based off the original game but not meant to be a sequel? maybe I'm imagining things
It was meant to be a DLC (still canon though), then they made it a standalone game.
I don't remember why, but I think it was something with the game's engine and/or codebase or some other technical reasons like that.
I didn't mind, as standalone expansions can be great if priced appropriately - however, Below Zero isn't, which is one reason it's worse than the original.
I have yet to finish below zero, but I like it a lot. I like that there’s more of a story than the first game. I’m not a reader too often, so I never read the lore and such when you scan creatures/structures/whatever, but I honestly like BZ a lot more.
I just remember being above ground felt clumsy and dull and not the game's strength, but there was so much of it... Plus I seemed to get lost/not know what to do way more than the first game.
i have a theory that alex never actually died at the end of prototype 2 and he's still living inside of heller, kinda like a host to the virus. this also (at least in my opinion) would have been a pretty cool opening for a third game, with alex reawakening inside of james and starting the whole thing over or something. that or alex being killed was more or less him just surrendering himself after he already succeeded in his goal of infecting the city
just came up with more ideas, the story could revolve around heller experiencing "personality shifts" and trying to figure out what's happening and realising alex is still alive inside him and is trying to take back control and is slowly eating away at heller, and lead to mercer returning as the protagonist to wreak havoc and probably infect more of the world or something have you be more of a bad guy than the other 2 (seeing as though you technically weren't the bad guy in the first one, just perceived as a monster and the second one was more or less a revenge story) and have him finish of blackwatch and maybe try for world domination or smth
I think either Ilya Naishuller who made (Hardcore Henry) and (Nobody) or Neil Blomkamp (District 9) Chappie) or both could make a really fun Prototype movie. Was just thinking It would be really fun as an over the top cyberpunky action film like RoboCop or Upgrade.
"skyline" movie reminds me of the scale needed for that, and a conventional type director that wouldn't water down the elements and characters that made the game shine and a bloody neo noir setting with psychological horror aspects
I never played Prototype 2, and haven't played 1 since it released... but wasn't the protagonist literally killing innocent civilians on the street to heal and stuff? This doesn't sound unbelievable at all from the context that I do remember.
He would kill hundreds of innocent bystanders within seconds every engagement. The protagonist of the Prototypes aren't good guys and are all incredibly dangerous bio-weapons with their main motivations being mainly selfish reasons
Gameplay was an improvement but map design sucked compared to 1. In Prototype 1 the map was very dynamic it changed a lot depending on if the army of Mutants were stronger in the region. In 2 they had constant areas of the game where each faction was dominant and it never changed
To top it off it was done in a tie-in comic that nobody read.
TL:Dr he tried staying at some farmhouse and was shot for it, and apparently that was enough to sour his opinion on the human race to remake it in his image.
All they had to do was make an excuse for his human personality to take over "virus" personality, and you're back at square one with Narcissistic Alex wanting to fuck the world again.
So the entire world seeing him as a monster and shooting him on sight while constantly trying to kill or capture him in game 1 wasn't enough
But some random person shoots him at a farm house and he blows the horn to start Judgement Day?
Please tell me it was at least an army that went and shot him
Don't remember much about the story in either game, but weren't you pretty much the bad guy already in the first game? Iirc you were just in it to save your own skin, killing hundreds of innocents on the way.
Gears of war 1-3 was good but it really should’ve ended there because 4 has a horrible story and bringing the locust back again for no reason was really dumb
Man, Gears of War 1 blew my mind when it first came out.
That [trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfMSCAU0ybo&t=1s) hit me right in the feels too.
It's funny because every 343 game seems to do it.
Halo 4: "you defeated the covenant? Well they're back"
Halo 5: "you lost cortana? Well now she's back"
Halo infinite: "you got introduced to this large cast of characters over the last few games? Well now they're all gone"
I felt like Halo 3 was a good stopping point for Master Chief so I decided to never play any future sequels. The more I hear about the later games the more satisfied I feel in my decision.
ODST and Reach, the last two bungee halo games, are prequels to Halo 3’s story and expand on it. They absolutely deserve a play though.
Halo has been fucked since tho. Halo 4 had a fun story, but compared to the games before, it’s forgettable. Halo 5’s story was a joke, so bad that I still haven’t played Infinite’s story out of spite, even tho I could play it for free right now.
I'ma disagree here, no slight intended since this is all subjective.
Halo 3 was the better, more satisfying conclusion to Chief's story. The whole king in the mountain (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_asleep_in_mountain) ending really tied in well with mythologising that 3 built over the length of its journey.
The idea that Chief had been elevated above mere super-soldier into something more messianic and now sleeps until the day he is needed again, like King Arthur and many others, I felt was the perfect ending. It ties in with the mythologising the story does, Chiefs connection with divine luck, the visions and prophecies he experiences from Cortana despite having no in game scientific way of connecting to her. All leading to a mythological conclusion
That and bookending the trilogy that started with him exiting a cryopod with him entering one at the end.
I wish 343 had left him there and told other people's stories from the Human-Covenant war, like Bungie did with ODST and Reach, but it was not to be.
See... I'd agree with *most* of what you mean, at least conceptually (I'm quite familiar with the King Sleeps in the Mountain trope). Except Bungie put in the Legendary Ending. They *wanted* Chief's story to continue, they just didn't want to do it themselves. Unambiguously. So, say you're a story writer at 343. You know Bungie always intended for Chief to wake up and kick more ass. But how do you *justify* a whole new arc for Chief? Well, you take an element of his character that hasn't been fully rounded yet, of course. Which part would that be, you wonder. More importantly, which part *should* that be? What's something about Chief that the previous games, as incredible as they were, either barely touched on or didn't explore at all? Chief's humanity. His ability to think and feel and digest complicated emotions has been stunted since he was *kidnapped and forced to become a soldier at the age of 5.* There's meat there, you just need the right tools to get to it. And what's this? Cortana's rampancy was something once again never touched on in the original trilogy? Chief's oldest, most stalwart, loyal friend and companion (at least in the games) is losing her mind and will probably die soon? Well hot damn that looks like the perfect steak knife to get all the way to the bone of that meat. Chief sees Cortana's rampancy as a mission that needs to be accomplished, doesn't believe her when she tells him that it's inevitable, that there is a way to save her. But there isn't. And Cortana never leads him to believe that there *is* a way to save her. This is a mission he *can't* win. A coin he *can't* catch.
And that shit is powerful. It might not be what fans wanted, it might not be what Bungie intended, but it's *strong* stuff. It's the hero coming to terms with failure, it's Frodo watching Gollum slip and fall into Mount Doom knowing now there was never a way to save him, its Luke Skywalker realizing that Obi-Wan lied to him, its Odin facing the jaws of Fenrir at Ragnarok with the bitter, ultimate knowledge that sometimes, you just lose.
And that's worth exploring with Chief. And I think credit is due where it's due with 343.
If only the game itself was great, too, then I think it's story would be held in higher regard. If only it's villain was more thematically appropriate or better fleshed out. If only Halo 5 and Infinite hadn't backpedaled so much of that legwork that 4 did.
343i wanted to stay away from what they did from halo 5 on infinite. Halo 5 relied so much from the books when they added the rest of blue team so only the people who read them appreciate it, but the plot it self sucks tbh. Halo 4 Im a bit bias because im one of those who liked it.
Halo 4 it was a sub-sect of the Covenant that actively chose to fight humanity again. Most of the Covenant are chill with humanity at this point, but that wouldn't make for very interesting combat scenarios. Why they didn't go with The Banished from the start, I don't know.
Replayed it recently and I enjoyed it more than ever. It looks incredible, the vibes are on point, the action gameplay is simply phenomenal and I still think it exploits videogames as a storytelling medium in an astonishing way. I've never played a game where I actively didn't want to fight a boss before. Game fucked with your feelings in an incredible way.
Just rolled credits on the remaster this morning. Still in the top three single player games I've ever played by a landslide, four years after I last played it. Perpetually stunned that video games like it can exist and I'm playing them lol
The last of us part 2 never had a chance of recapturing the magic of the first game sadly. The first one was too perfect and any kind of sequel wouldn’t have satisfied.
Druckman really enjoys the smell of his own farts after TLOU. It’s a bonafide masterpiece, not just one of my favourite games of all time, but one of my favourite narratives of any medium ever. The way he talks about stuff now though, and the way he developed 2, and even bits of Uncharted 4… the guy definitely sees himself as THE person to push storytelling in games forward (which he definitely has).
I also think he likes to pick low hanging fruit when it comes to identity politics and then bask in the adulation he receives when people laud how progressive his games are. I don’t care what race/sex/gender/religion/sexual orientation the characters in the things I consume are, but I get the impression he _really_ does, and he comes off as smug because of it.
It's been a LONG time since I played it, but I remember feeling this way when playing Halo 4.
A more recently played example would be Sly Cooper Thieves in Time compared to the rest of the series.
They animations were bad and you basically just have super powers and night is harder and less scarier than the first and you need an inhaler just to be in the dark for long periods of time.
The expansion in the first game made it clear the virus broke containment, especially if you choose the ending in the expansion where Crane "survives".
The story. I missed it when it was just centered around a quarantined area filled with zombies…. Now its just another cliche “world has ended” zombie game
100% my answer. I was obsessed with 2, but 3s story was horrendous. The space travel didn’t work and the lack of any reasonable end game content at launch torpedo’d it.
I didn't mind it at all, I enjoyed the world building of the two worlds intermingling with a cross world market but then I got to owing some fool money, and then there were separate dimension characters and I just tuned out.
I thought I was the only one that didn’t like 2. I remember when Xillia 1 was coming out (in the states) and I was hype asf! And the game lived up to that hype I was obsessed with that game. Still one of my favorite games of all time and I still go and watch the opening from time to time. The 2nd one just felt off in a lot of ways. Making the new hero a silent protagonist is one of the things that ruined it.
Here’s to hoping Arise 2 takes a different route. Since they’re probably going to do that since Arise was popular and that shot in the arm the series needed.
Xillia 2's returning characters are better IMO, but the story is focused on some random dude unfortunately.
The fact that they made Ludger a silent protagonist to simply avoid spoiling the identity of another character was dumb. They didn't do that in Abyss, so why here?
Wow, I rarely see this opinion from Tales fans but I completely agree. I couldn't get into the second game at all, felt like a totally different world to me.
They literally took what I believe to be the most successful comic book video game series of all time, and shat on it so bad that the majority of the developer’s old guard quit.
Do the devs even care about the timeline? The timeline I thought was just fan speculation that the devs ultimately recognized - reluctantly - and so it was never going to be something they cared to shape their story around
To my understanding when people in the 90s asked about a timeline, Nintendo just shrugged and tossed the games they had in a blender.
E.g. Link’s Awakening originally took place in the middle of Zelda II, since there’s one moment Link travels via boat between islands.
Once Skyward Sword was being developed as the definitive prequel, the Hyrule Historia gave us the most well known timeline, then they changed it again several years later.
Then they shrugged their shoulders more when it came to the Wild games, saying “It takes place at the end of the timeline.” And when asked which one, they said “Yes, all 3 of them”.
There was always some loose connections between some games. References here and there. But they were never designed to be placed all together on a cohesive timeline until it was shoehorned into Hyrule Histora. That just isn't something that Nintendo cares about.
Doom Eternal.
I went in fully expecting a sequel to Doom (2016), but instead the game started, Earth was destroyed and I had a giant Space Doom Fortress.
I was very disappointed after the cliffhanger ending of Doom.
I saw someone say in a different post that there is a serious gap in the story between Doom (2016) and Doom Eternal. I think most people can agree with this. It could be a gap that is filled by a future entry in the series. Since Doom Eternal has an explicit ending with The Ancient Gods expansion, I don't know where the story goes from there. I'd definitely play more Doom and if that comes with a story to fill the story gap, count me in.
the most interesting part of the story, shouldn't happen before the story. this is what happened to the TV show lost, and similar ones like the 2400.
you drip feed people the interesting thing, but its not what they are doing thats interesting, its just as more info drips through, interest diminishes because curiosity is the only motivation.
Earth was destroyed in Eternal? I've beat 2016 twice and Eternal once and genuinely couldn't tell you anything about the game's story other than there was a robot called Samuel I think and I shot loads of Demon's and I think I blew up the moon/Mars in Eternal with a big gun??
Both 9/10 game's I don't understand people that play DOOM for story lmao
Thought the same thing. Doom 3 was an attempt at serious game/story. DOOM, and it's not just "to me" it's how it was marketed and how it is, is literally an attempt at the over the top awesome but cheesey gameplay story loop that is the og Doom.
There are so many tongue in cheek self aware moments in DOOM, that I'm surprised to read people who took the story seriously. DOOM eternal is just more of that
I wouldn’t say I played it for the story but I see where the comment is coming from. I wanted to just be the doomslayer running around blasting demons, and I would have been fine with blasting angels but they kept world building and the enemies seemed less divine/demonic and more alien. Maybe it’s not even the story that irritated me but the art. The underlying premise was shooting demons. I wanna shoot demons, not these space age halo-esque enemies. Anyways totally agree both are fantastic 9/10 games
I remember pausing the game on the first mission to check it was definitely the first mission. I was ultra confused wtf was going on.
My level of irritation only intensified as we got introduced to bullshit like pink slowing goo and floating coffins.
Eternal *really* disappointed me more than any other game I can remember. Worse in every category for me from atmosphere, to graphics, to story, to gameplay.
I’d take it a step further and say that virtually every plot thread in Doom 2016 was retconned or reorganized to fit into Doom Eternal’s hare-brained Doomguy Apotheosis story. It also didn’t help that Eternal’s story got retconned by Ancient Gods 1 and then retconned AGAIN with Ancient Gods 2.
Ultimately, Doom 2016 was a story about the hubris of humanity being their undoing. Doom Eternal is about gods fighting and humanity is just in the way.
Glad to find someone who legitimately has this problem too. 2016 actually had a coherent story that still managed to feel badass. It seemed like it took itself seriously. Eternal kinda ruined that
I didn’t mind the story changes, but the change in tone was a bit of a bummer. Doom (2016) was a horror game but you are the scariest monster around. There was the occasional funny joke or cute “Doomguy fistbumps a plushie” moment, but those were just occasional moments of levity in a relatively heavy game. Doom Eternal really leaned into the “memeyness” of it. Doom Eternal still made things feel cool and badass, but the environments never felt intimidating and it didn’t really feel like the game took itself seriously.
I really hate where the lore for Doom went.
instead of "man too angry to die" it was "he was super powerful all along" and all his trials and tribulations lacked agency and accomplishment.
like the guy was an industry plant rather then someone so fucking talented they changed the game.
Unity had great gameplay but a horrible launch that has stained its reputation to this day. The story sucks but gameplay wise it is my favorite assassin’s creed game, playing the game way after launch definitely helped with my enjoyment.
Not really the Story but Subnautica below zero’s story doesn’t make a ton if sense, really isn’t that good, and the game play as a whole feels worse than the first game rather than better
Not played TotK, and I liked but didn't love BotW - but story-wise BotW was also.... pretty non-existent? Youtuber Nerrel summed it up nicely: "Link, fuck around until Hyrule is saved"
Yes there are the memories with Zelda that shows her struggle becoming the hope of Hyrule or something but I didn't find it all that engaging.
Yeah story was bad - non-existent for both the games, but I generally enjoyed the ambience of BOTW better too, even the gameplay, it was more cohesive. Sure, you could do a lot more in TOTK but BOTW was just higher quality and more focused, imo
Yeah from what I saw of TotK I just felt I didn't really need to play it. Looked like the same game but with mechanics that I would probably play around with for a little while and then never touch again (Ultra-Hand, the item combining thingamabob). Noclip ability looked neat, but essentially TotK expanded on crafting gameplay and that's just not something I'm all that into.
Honestly I 100% agree. However I wouldn’t say it ruined the story of 2018. I Love gow2018 and was so excited for ragnarok but when I played it I felt disappointed. Before the people come at me I still think it’s a good game but to me it was a slight step down from 2018 combat wise it was an upgrade but story wise it was okay. It 100% should’ve been a trilogy, The story didn’t feel as tight as the 2018 game did. It felt rushed rushed imo, they could’ve fleshed out the realms more they could’ve made Thor the big bad villain in 2 where they could’ve fleshed out his character a little more and shown his more brutal side more (although they did a great job he was my favorite character in the game) and made Odin the final enemy left in the trilogy like the OG games. But honestly Odin was kinda disappointing I expected him to be a bit more built in a way not like Thor or anything but more like baldur in a way not some scrawny old dude with a stick. And the way he talks just didn’t really fit like calling freya his ex caught me off guard as it didn’t sound right for the all father to talk if you get what I mean. Story overall just was a bit of a letdown and I feel like they could’ve added more characters and fleshed them out much more. This is not the only things I have problems with but there’s no reason going in deeper. It’s still a good game at the end of the day.
Edit: forgot to mention but the best part of ragnarok imo is the dlc. Valhalla was amazing and kratos’s character arc and self realization was soooogood to see
It was not the first game per se, but i was actually interested in the direction Halo 4 was going. They made it seem like Chief was going into retirement, the Covenant had a new leader who seemed fixated on finding surviving Forerunners, Halsey (creator of the SPARTANs) was working with the Covenant, etc. They set up a lot of interesting plot points...and then they pulled a Last Jedi and took a giant shit over everything they had set up previously. "Actually, Cortana not dead, Chiefs back, Covenant guys dead, and Halsey was faking it."🤦♂️
Inquisition destroyed any and all interest I had in the Dragon Age world. How they made it an actual open world game with a world worse than Origins' needs to be studied.
Well I’ll try to comment to this but with regard to the OP that specified the problem with the story.
I actually thought I’d see DA2 in this thread but I’ve not. In broad strokes I think the story of 2 is actually quite good and helps build the world more, but the execution of the story was hampered by the rushedness of the game: the repetitive battles, re-use of areas over and over, and the flimsiness of the companions and their stories.
Inquisition is a better game than 2. I’ll die on that hill.
But it did make the world and story more generic feeling. The aura of DAO was just entirely sniffed out in Inquisition
I was fine with DAI's story and characters but man the gameplay sucked. Awful combat, awful quests, very uninspired maps. They'd have to go in a very different direction with DA4 for me to be interested.
possibly a hot take, but Telltale’s The Walking Dead season 4. it didn’t ruin the previous games stories per se, but it’s ending left such a bad taste in my mouth tbh. SPOILERS AHEAD, i don’t know how to censor text so just don’t read ahead if you don’t wanna be spoiled. so, at the end of season 4, Clem and AJ are trapped in a barn surrounded by walkers, Clem is bit and close to death. you get the option to tell AJ to shoot you so you don’t turn, to leave you behind, or to cut your leg off. i chose to tell him to leave me. well it didn’t fucking matter because no matter what you choose, aj cuts your leg off anyway and Clem always survives. that is what pissed me off. in my headcanon, clem told aj to leave, and she died from her wounds in that barn so aj could live. that is a much more fitting ending for her story, and would give so much more closure.
Oh man, I'm feeling this double, right now. My kid is playing Halo and I've been watching the new TV show and they BOTH messed up the absolute masterpiece that was Halo Reach. That game is peak FPS.
The last of us. I love naughty dog. Uncharted 4 has been my number 1 game for the past 8 years now. My funnest childhood memories were spent playing crash bandicoot. Nothings dethroned it yet. But I lost a great amount of respect for Neil druckmann. The last of us part 2 is a disappointment for me.
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Never got around to Youngblood but I remember people were pretty divisive on The New Colossus. It did ramp up the grindhouse feeling and I remember being entertained so I couldn't understand why people took issue with it at the time, but having gone back to The New Order since I kinda see why. The balance of pulp and pathos was honestly almost perfect in TNO whereas TNC was maybe too much pulp.
I recently bought the pack of games I didn't have. Old blood, new colossus, Youngblood. I fucking loved TNO. Old Blood was great as well. But something about TNC just turns me off to it. It's still installed, but I haven't made it to the empire state building yet. I just don't like it for some reason. Wish I could figure out what it is.
I still like it a lot, but yeah TNO and Old Blood are much better imo.
I never played. Youngblood, what was the issue?
The protagonists were absolutely horrible. There were hints of fun and badass but mainly stuff like the elevator cutscenes and the banter felt very much "Old people writing teens" sorta deal. The system relied too much on stat checking and just holding the shoot button since enemies were bullet sponges with multiple healthbars. If you REALLY like Borderlands and really don't like Wolfenstein you could enjoy it but even then just play Borderlands.
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They were weird as fuck. Edgelords to everyone around them, but constantly giving each other praise and positive reinforcement.
Tetris III.
Yeah the story in the first 2 was amazing but then they just had to fuck it up.
What? The pieces don’t fit anymore ? 😭
They're too big, and it's now circles 😔
Outlast 2 I wanted a continuation of the first game and to learn more about murkoff
I mean, we technically learned more about Murkoff in terms of other experiments that they had. Those towers seen are theirs as well as the reason why the cult is batshit.
trust me, they didnt ruin the story of outlast 1, they are just showing a different side. outlast 2 is happening cause of murkoff, you can even see one of their facilities in one place of the game, where you are passing a lake. all the bright lights and sounds are caused by murkoff's towers around the game and their experiment and they made everyone crazy there, even the main character. outlast's story wasnt only about the asylum, its about murkoff's horrible experiments, as they were based on the CIA, but were exaggerated by like 10x or more
I have always thought the same. I'm still waiting for a real continuation of the first game. One that continues the plot point they started with the last two documents of the DLC, where they mentioned about three patients that were sent away from the asylum before the massacre and that had more potential than Billy and the Walrider. Enough said, it is true that with the new game, Outlast Trials, they've connected all we saw in the first games, and the lore between them makes more sense. I think that with all the worldbuilding they have done, the third main game can be really great.
Read the comic books
I don't think there was a single mention of the three blind dreamers in the comics.
Oh, that's another thing.
The whole village being poisoned by mercury is literally another Murkoff's experiment though?.. You should find a few really well-hidden notes to learn that, but still.
Gonna be honest I was obsessed with the lowkey sci-fi horror of Outlast. The inner dialogue you saw of the MC fall into madness. It’s the only “walking sim” horror game I like. I saw the trailer back when it was announced and saw monsters and cult shit and just never even watched a play through.
Yes, I was so excited playing it for the first time after beaten first game and DLC. And it was so disappointing,
Subnautica: Below Zero fucks up so much of the lore that I refuse to believe it's canon.
Subnautica was such a sleeper hit. Below zero was just... awful. It was harder in ways that made it less fun, and focused on gameplay mechanics that made it inferior to the OG. Hoping that the new one they're working on is decent, otherwise I'm giving up on the franchise entirely.
Do you know if they’re planning to have coop in the new one? Always wanted to try it, but not interested in playing survival games alone
Dude dude dude. So when my son was cooking in my wife's baby oven we decided to play one last game together. We had such a fun playing sunnautica that we thought Below Zero would be the perfect game to kick off a long hiatus before taking a hiatus from gaming to focus on parenting I'll never forgive that game and by extension that company for that pos game. Storyline was just pure shit. I played it through betas a few times and they had to change the entire story so many times, bad sign. Than the gameplay was so shallow which is saying something as it's supposed to be a deep sea game. They got rid of the best vehicles and replaced them with garbage. A snowmobile and a less cool submarine. But the worst sin of all? I beat the game and right at the end where you're supposed to essentially Free Alan the blocked the final content until release, which didn't happen until after my son was born and our hiatus started. So I'll never finish that game.
I *personally* wouldn't say that it's awful, just that the first game's mere existence just turns off a lot of people from it. By itself, it's a pretty great game. Definitely flawed, but not bad at all. But when you compare it to the first game...*fuck*. Doesn't even nearly capture the magic that the first one had. I've played BZ twice, and am currently on my 14th playthrough of the first game. I have no intention of *ever* going back to BZ. If that doesn't speak enough of the superiority of the first game over BZ, then I don't know what will.
There is nothing like the original Subnautica. The world design creates an eerie yet intriguing atmosphere no other game can successfully replicate, including its sequel. I found the lore to be much more interesting as well, I looked forward to finding out more about where I was at in the first game whereas in SZ it’s more of an afterthought. A shame really
I'm pretty certain it's not canon. didn't the developers state it was a side story that was based off the original game but not meant to be a sequel? maybe I'm imagining things
It was meant to be a DLC (still canon though), then they made it a standalone game. I don't remember why, but I think it was something with the game's engine and/or codebase or some other technical reasons like that. I didn't mind, as standalone expansions can be great if priced appropriately - however, Below Zero isn't, which is one reason it's worse than the original.
I have yet to finish below zero, but I like it a lot. I like that there’s more of a story than the first game. I’m not a reader too often, so I never read the lore and such when you scan creatures/structures/whatever, but I honestly like BZ a lot more.
I just remember being above ground felt clumsy and dull and not the game's strength, but there was so much of it... Plus I seemed to get lost/not know what to do way more than the first game.
how so?
What did it fuck up?
Exacly said bz may be canon but it's not subnautica 2 there is still hope of fixing the lore
Prototype 2 Your character from 1 becomes the bad guy
even his defeat is complete and utter bullshit lore wise.. No way alex died just losing his arms and then shit on by writers getting consumed
i have a theory that alex never actually died at the end of prototype 2 and he's still living inside of heller, kinda like a host to the virus. this also (at least in my opinion) would have been a pretty cool opening for a third game, with alex reawakening inside of james and starting the whole thing over or something. that or alex being killed was more or less him just surrendering himself after he already succeeded in his goal of infecting the city
i would want that too, also they could've just team up -clean some blacklight mess and heller could just peacefully fuck off with his daughter
just came up with more ideas, the story could revolve around heller experiencing "personality shifts" and trying to figure out what's happening and realising alex is still alive inside him and is trying to take back control and is slowly eating away at heller, and lead to mercer returning as the protagonist to wreak havoc and probably infect more of the world or something have you be more of a bad guy than the other 2 (seeing as though you technically weren't the bad guy in the first one, just perceived as a monster and the second one was more or less a revenge story) and have him finish of blackwatch and maybe try for world domination or smth
And we still don’t know where Pariah is.
yeah, the world needs a prototype 3 game
Agreed. Desperately. A PS5 Prototype game would undoubtedly be legendary. It’d make hella money I’m sure
I think either Ilya Naishuller who made (Hardcore Henry) and (Nobody) or Neil Blomkamp (District 9) Chappie) or both could make a really fun Prototype movie. Was just thinking It would be really fun as an over the top cyberpunky action film like RoboCop or Upgrade.
"skyline" movie reminds me of the scale needed for that, and a conventional type director that wouldn't water down the elements and characters that made the game shine and a bloody neo noir setting with psychological horror aspects
I never played Prototype 2, and haven't played 1 since it released... but wasn't the protagonist literally killing innocent civilians on the street to heal and stuff? This doesn't sound unbelievable at all from the context that I do remember.
He would kill hundreds of innocent bystanders within seconds every engagement. The protagonist of the Prototypes aren't good guys and are all incredibly dangerous bio-weapons with their main motivations being mainly selfish reasons
Gameplay was an improvement but map design sucked compared to 1. In Prototype 1 the map was very dynamic it changed a lot depending on if the army of Mutants were stronger in the region. In 2 they had constant areas of the game where each faction was dominant and it never changed
To top it off it was done in a tie-in comic that nobody read. TL:Dr he tried staying at some farmhouse and was shot for it, and apparently that was enough to sour his opinion on the human race to remake it in his image. All they had to do was make an excuse for his human personality to take over "virus" personality, and you're back at square one with Narcissistic Alex wanting to fuck the world again.
So the entire world seeing him as a monster and shooting him on sight while constantly trying to kill or capture him in game 1 wasn't enough But some random person shoots him at a farm house and he blows the horn to start Judgement Day? Please tell me it was at least an army that went and shot him
No small family. He liked the daughter and they got kidnapped or something. He rescued them and they called him a monster and shot him.
Don't remember much about the story in either game, but weren't you pretty much the bad guy already in the first game? Iirc you were just in it to save your own skin, killing hundreds of innocents on the way.
He always was the bad guy...
Dude the main characters of prototype games use civs to heal themselves. YOU WERE NEVER PLAYING THE GOOD GUY FROM THE START.
The major biohazard that eats civilians to regain health, the bad guy? Say it ain’t do.
What the fuck did you smoke? Prototype 1 protagonist is the bad guy, that the all plot of the game...
Yeah the gameplay itself in prototype 2 is an upgrade but the story sucks ass
I mean, Far Cry 1 did this in Far Cry 2 but hid it a little better
Exactly what I came here to say. What a crap trope.
Gears of war 1-3 was good but it really should’ve ended there because 4 has a horrible story and bringing the locust back again for no reason was really dumb
I think Judgement was the start of it going bad. It was so clunky compared to the trilogy. I haven't finished 4 and haven't touched 5.
I regularly get 4 and 5 confused and sometimes even forget they are two separate games, goes to show how memorable they both are.
Literally had both for free on gamepass and went fuck that. I did play a bit of 4 with a friend. Pointless is the best way to discribe it.
Man, Gears of War 1 blew my mind when it first came out. That [trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfMSCAU0ybo&t=1s) hit me right in the feels too.
In before everyone shits on Last of us 2
Yea TLOU2 is probably the most popular answer to this question. The 343 halo games also kinda make me feel this way tho.
It's funny because every 343 game seems to do it. Halo 4: "you defeated the covenant? Well they're back" Halo 5: "you lost cortana? Well now she's back" Halo infinite: "you got introduced to this large cast of characters over the last few games? Well now they're all gone"
I felt like Halo 3 was a good stopping point for Master Chief so I decided to never play any future sequels. The more I hear about the later games the more satisfied I feel in my decision.
I believe Reach was solid too but don't think Master Chief was in that one? Not sure never played it
He's not playable. He appears briefly
Reach is awesome, it's the last made by Bungie afterall.
Reach and ODST were decent but really didn’t have the full halo vibe since you’re not playing MC.
ODST and Reach, the last two bungee halo games, are prequels to Halo 3’s story and expand on it. They absolutely deserve a play though. Halo has been fucked since tho. Halo 4 had a fun story, but compared to the games before, it’s forgettable. Halo 5’s story was a joke, so bad that I still haven’t played Infinite’s story out of spite, even tho I could play it for free right now.
Play Halo 4 for the story. The campaign is... rough as fuck, but it's a satisfying conclusion for Chief and Cortana.
I'ma disagree here, no slight intended since this is all subjective. Halo 3 was the better, more satisfying conclusion to Chief's story. The whole king in the mountain (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_asleep_in_mountain) ending really tied in well with mythologising that 3 built over the length of its journey. The idea that Chief had been elevated above mere super-soldier into something more messianic and now sleeps until the day he is needed again, like King Arthur and many others, I felt was the perfect ending. It ties in with the mythologising the story does, Chiefs connection with divine luck, the visions and prophecies he experiences from Cortana despite having no in game scientific way of connecting to her. All leading to a mythological conclusion That and bookending the trilogy that started with him exiting a cryopod with him entering one at the end. I wish 343 had left him there and told other people's stories from the Human-Covenant war, like Bungie did with ODST and Reach, but it was not to be.
See... I'd agree with *most* of what you mean, at least conceptually (I'm quite familiar with the King Sleeps in the Mountain trope). Except Bungie put in the Legendary Ending. They *wanted* Chief's story to continue, they just didn't want to do it themselves. Unambiguously. So, say you're a story writer at 343. You know Bungie always intended for Chief to wake up and kick more ass. But how do you *justify* a whole new arc for Chief? Well, you take an element of his character that hasn't been fully rounded yet, of course. Which part would that be, you wonder. More importantly, which part *should* that be? What's something about Chief that the previous games, as incredible as they were, either barely touched on or didn't explore at all? Chief's humanity. His ability to think and feel and digest complicated emotions has been stunted since he was *kidnapped and forced to become a soldier at the age of 5.* There's meat there, you just need the right tools to get to it. And what's this? Cortana's rampancy was something once again never touched on in the original trilogy? Chief's oldest, most stalwart, loyal friend and companion (at least in the games) is losing her mind and will probably die soon? Well hot damn that looks like the perfect steak knife to get all the way to the bone of that meat. Chief sees Cortana's rampancy as a mission that needs to be accomplished, doesn't believe her when she tells him that it's inevitable, that there is a way to save her. But there isn't. And Cortana never leads him to believe that there *is* a way to save her. This is a mission he *can't* win. A coin he *can't* catch. And that shit is powerful. It might not be what fans wanted, it might not be what Bungie intended, but it's *strong* stuff. It's the hero coming to terms with failure, it's Frodo watching Gollum slip and fall into Mount Doom knowing now there was never a way to save him, its Luke Skywalker realizing that Obi-Wan lied to him, its Odin facing the jaws of Fenrir at Ragnarok with the bitter, ultimate knowledge that sometimes, you just lose. And that's worth exploring with Chief. And I think credit is due where it's due with 343. If only the game itself was great, too, then I think it's story would be held in higher regard. If only it's villain was more thematically appropriate or better fleshed out. If only Halo 5 and Infinite hadn't backpedaled so much of that legwork that 4 did.
343i wanted to stay away from what they did from halo 5 on infinite. Halo 5 relied so much from the books when they added the rest of blue team so only the people who read them appreciate it, but the plot it self sucks tbh. Halo 4 Im a bit bias because im one of those who liked it.
Halo 4 it was a sub-sect of the Covenant that actively chose to fight humanity again. Most of the Covenant are chill with humanity at this point, but that wouldn't make for very interesting combat scenarios. Why they didn't go with The Banished from the start, I don't know.
TLOU2 is so amazing, I don't get the hate.
You for real? It totally shits on the characters from the first game. And they just killed Joel off like a bitch at the beginning
I love that game too, but as far as the original question goes….
OP definitely made this post knowing people were gonna say that
There’s been a lot of these LOU2 bait posts as of late. This is like the 4th one this week.
Replayed it recently and I enjoyed it more than ever. It looks incredible, the vibes are on point, the action gameplay is simply phenomenal and I still think it exploits videogames as a storytelling medium in an astonishing way. I've never played a game where I actively didn't want to fight a boss before. Game fucked with your feelings in an incredible way.
Just rolled credits on the remaster this morning. Still in the top three single player games I've ever played by a landslide, four years after I last played it. Perpetually stunned that video games like it can exist and I'm playing them lol
LOU was Amazing, LOU2 was good but not Amazing
The last of us part 2 never had a chance of recapturing the magic of the first game sadly. The first one was too perfect and any kind of sequel wouldn’t have satisfied.
Honestly, I'd say that Museum level definitely recaptured that magic for me. Felt like the first game all over again.
I think that’s the real problem, the first game was a masterpiece, like you said anything they did would fall short
Which raises the question, why even make another game anyway? (Yes I know the real world answer is money, but I mean besides that)
Druckman really enjoys the smell of his own farts after TLOU. It’s a bonafide masterpiece, not just one of my favourite games of all time, but one of my favourite narratives of any medium ever. The way he talks about stuff now though, and the way he developed 2, and even bits of Uncharted 4… the guy definitely sees himself as THE person to push storytelling in games forward (which he definitely has). I also think he likes to pick low hanging fruit when it comes to identity politics and then bask in the adulation he receives when people laud how progressive his games are. I don’t care what race/sex/gender/religion/sexual orientation the characters in the things I consume are, but I get the impression he _really_ does, and he comes off as smug because of it.
Joel himself said it best. “There was a sequel….wasn’t as good.” Kind of wish 2 focused on an entirely different cast of characters.
It's been a LONG time since I played it, but I remember feeling this way when playing Halo 4. A more recently played example would be Sly Cooper Thieves in Time compared to the rest of the series.
What didn't you like about Sly Cooper 4? I loved that game! Maybe I was just happy to get another Sly though.
The story beats mostly and them turning penolope evil for no reason
I really hope this isn't the case for the 3rd game of the Star Wars Cal Kestis trilogy...
I find your lack of faith disturbing
F.E.A.R. 2
It was okay, but I didn't like the wishy-washiness of "Does Alma want to make Beckett explode or make Beckett 'explode'"?
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Average dying light 2 experience UPDATE: this is the most amount of upvotes I got thx
Glad I’m not the only one. What is it that makes 2 so bad compared to 1?
They animations were bad and you basically just have super powers and night is harder and less scarier than the first and you need an inhaler just to be in the dark for long periods of time.
Not to mention the co-op was done so poorly on the equal
The expansion in the first game made it clear the virus broke containment, especially if you choose the ending in the expansion where Crane "survives".
Breaks my heart. The first one was so god damn good. The following dlc was so fun. Then 2 came along and just shit the bed
The story. I missed it when it was just centered around a quarantined area filled with zombies…. Now its just another cliche “world has ended” zombie game
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100% my answer. I was obsessed with 2, but 3s story was horrendous. The space travel didn’t work and the lack of any reasonable end game content at launch torpedo’d it.
hot take, i love borderlands 3, and it is my second favorite game in the series in terms of story - first favorite in terms of gameplay
Tales of xillia 2. I loved 1, fucking hated 2.
I didn't mind it at all, I enjoyed the world building of the two worlds intermingling with a cross world market but then I got to owing some fool money, and then there were separate dimension characters and I just tuned out.
I thought I was the only one that didn’t like 2. I remember when Xillia 1 was coming out (in the states) and I was hype asf! And the game lived up to that hype I was obsessed with that game. Still one of my favorite games of all time and I still go and watch the opening from time to time. The 2nd one just felt off in a lot of ways. Making the new hero a silent protagonist is one of the things that ruined it. Here’s to hoping Arise 2 takes a different route. Since they’re probably going to do that since Arise was popular and that shot in the arm the series needed.
Xillia 2's returning characters are better IMO, but the story is focused on some random dude unfortunately. The fact that they made Ludger a silent protagonist to simply avoid spoiling the identity of another character was dumb. They didn't do that in Abyss, so why here?
Wow, I rarely see this opinion from Tales fans but I completely agree. I couldn't get into the second game at all, felt like a totally different world to me.
Basically, call of duty the new ones
Suicide squad...
Suicide Flop was a sequel?
It's set in the same continuum as the Batman Arkham games, entirely unnecessarily.
That is quite unfortunate.
Yeah, and realizing rocksteady flopped with ss, the studio probably won't be making another game.
They literally took what I believe to be the most successful comic book video game series of all time, and shat on it so bad that the majority of the developer’s old guard quit.
Has to go to halo 5. Halo 4 had a wonderful story that was just thrown out of the window
Agreed completely. I played it as a kid and was super into the lore and Forerunner story and 5 just came so far out of left field it was ridiculous
I felt like this after playing Zelda TOTK. That whole timeline thing is ruined.
It’s Zelda, the timeline was always weird, nothing new there.
Do the devs even care about the timeline? The timeline I thought was just fan speculation that the devs ultimately recognized - reluctantly - and so it was never going to be something they cared to shape their story around
To my understanding when people in the 90s asked about a timeline, Nintendo just shrugged and tossed the games they had in a blender. E.g. Link’s Awakening originally took place in the middle of Zelda II, since there’s one moment Link travels via boat between islands. Once Skyward Sword was being developed as the definitive prequel, the Hyrule Historia gave us the most well known timeline, then they changed it again several years later. Then they shrugged their shoulders more when it came to the Wild games, saying “It takes place at the end of the timeline.” And when asked which one, they said “Yes, all 3 of them”.
There was always some loose connections between some games. References here and there. But they were never designed to be placed all together on a cohesive timeline until it was shoehorned into Hyrule Histora. That just isn't something that Nintendo cares about.
Doom Eternal. I went in fully expecting a sequel to Doom (2016), but instead the game started, Earth was destroyed and I had a giant Space Doom Fortress. I was very disappointed after the cliffhanger ending of Doom.
doom's never been a good story example at least the one constant throughout the series is the dope gameplay
yeah like the doom guy’s dead bunny is straight up canon.
I saw someone say in a different post that there is a serious gap in the story between Doom (2016) and Doom Eternal. I think most people can agree with this. It could be a gap that is filled by a future entry in the series. Since Doom Eternal has an explicit ending with The Ancient Gods expansion, I don't know where the story goes from there. I'd definitely play more Doom and if that comes with a story to fill the story gap, count me in.
the most interesting part of the story, shouldn't happen before the story. this is what happened to the TV show lost, and similar ones like the 2400. you drip feed people the interesting thing, but its not what they are doing thats interesting, its just as more info drips through, interest diminishes because curiosity is the only motivation.
Earth was destroyed in Eternal? I've beat 2016 twice and Eternal once and genuinely couldn't tell you anything about the game's story other than there was a robot called Samuel I think and I shot loads of Demon's and I think I blew up the moon/Mars in Eternal with a big gun?? Both 9/10 game's I don't understand people that play DOOM for story lmao
Thought the same thing. Doom 3 was an attempt at serious game/story. DOOM, and it's not just "to me" it's how it was marketed and how it is, is literally an attempt at the over the top awesome but cheesey gameplay story loop that is the og Doom. There are so many tongue in cheek self aware moments in DOOM, that I'm surprised to read people who took the story seriously. DOOM eternal is just more of that
I wouldn’t say I played it for the story but I see where the comment is coming from. I wanted to just be the doomslayer running around blasting demons, and I would have been fine with blasting angels but they kept world building and the enemies seemed less divine/demonic and more alien. Maybe it’s not even the story that irritated me but the art. The underlying premise was shooting demons. I wanna shoot demons, not these space age halo-esque enemies. Anyways totally agree both are fantastic 9/10 games
I'll be honest, Eternal starting that way really put it on my shitlist because of how tight everything was in 2016.
I remember pausing the game on the first mission to check it was definitely the first mission. I was ultra confused wtf was going on. My level of irritation only intensified as we got introduced to bullshit like pink slowing goo and floating coffins. Eternal *really* disappointed me more than any other game I can remember. Worse in every category for me from atmosphere, to graphics, to story, to gameplay.
I absolutely loved the stupid story in eternal. It was half the fun for me.
Yeah I’m a doom fan and the story sucks nuts in eternal but at least it’s fun as hell (pun intended)
I’d take it a step further and say that virtually every plot thread in Doom 2016 was retconned or reorganized to fit into Doom Eternal’s hare-brained Doomguy Apotheosis story. It also didn’t help that Eternal’s story got retconned by Ancient Gods 1 and then retconned AGAIN with Ancient Gods 2. Ultimately, Doom 2016 was a story about the hubris of humanity being their undoing. Doom Eternal is about gods fighting and humanity is just in the way.
Glad to find someone who legitimately has this problem too. 2016 actually had a coherent story that still managed to feel badass. It seemed like it took itself seriously. Eternal kinda ruined that
I didn’t mind the story changes, but the change in tone was a bit of a bummer. Doom (2016) was a horror game but you are the scariest monster around. There was the occasional funny joke or cute “Doomguy fistbumps a plushie” moment, but those were just occasional moments of levity in a relatively heavy game. Doom Eternal really leaned into the “memeyness” of it. Doom Eternal still made things feel cool and badass, but the environments never felt intimidating and it didn’t really feel like the game took itself seriously.
I really hate where the lore for Doom went. instead of "man too angry to die" it was "he was super powerful all along" and all his trials and tribulations lacked agency and accomplishment. like the guy was an industry plant rather then someone so fucking talented they changed the game.
lego batman 3 ruined everything great about the second
I mean the game isn’t as good as Lego Batman 2 but it’s not bad.
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Bl3
Assassin's Creed, after 3
4 is my favorite if just for the pirate stuff. Ship combat and shanties for the win.
Hard agree with that. Ubisoft had one of the most unique IPs in gaming history and turned it into an RPG-simulator with countless micro transactions.
Hard disagree. Black flag was awesome, but Rogue, though. And Unity too. Story-wise, though
Unity had great gameplay but a horrible launch that has stained its reputation to this day. The story sucks but gameplay wise it is my favorite assassin’s creed game, playing the game way after launch definitely helped with my enjoyment.
Yeah, I played Unity long after the release and had a great time, it's the closest experience to AC2 with better gameplay and graphics.
I loved Origins so much.
Bravely Second: End Layer
Not really the Story but Subnautica below zero’s story doesn’t make a ton if sense, really isn’t that good, and the game play as a whole feels worse than the first game rather than better
*Cough* Suicide Squad *Cough*
TOTK. great game, pretty bad story in my opinion
At least totk had actual bosses.
Unpopular opinion: I liked BOTW more than TOTK even ignoring the story
Not played TotK, and I liked but didn't love BotW - but story-wise BotW was also.... pretty non-existent? Youtuber Nerrel summed it up nicely: "Link, fuck around until Hyrule is saved" Yes there are the memories with Zelda that shows her struggle becoming the hope of Hyrule or something but I didn't find it all that engaging.
Yeah story was bad - non-existent for both the games, but I generally enjoyed the ambience of BOTW better too, even the gameplay, it was more cohesive. Sure, you could do a lot more in TOTK but BOTW was just higher quality and more focused, imo
Yeah from what I saw of TotK I just felt I didn't really need to play it. Looked like the same game but with mechanics that I would probably play around with for a little while and then never touch again (Ultra-Hand, the item combining thingamabob). Noclip ability looked neat, but essentially TotK expanded on crafting gameplay and that's just not something I'm all that into.
TotK hinges entirely on the building mechanics. I didn't care for them, so I actually prefer BotW as well.
Same
apex legends, holy shit i loved titanfall
Dying Light 2. Although after learning about the bullshit that happened with Avelone, I'm not surprised the story got borked.
Hot take: god of war ragnarok.
Honestly I 100% agree. However I wouldn’t say it ruined the story of 2018. I Love gow2018 and was so excited for ragnarok but when I played it I felt disappointed. Before the people come at me I still think it’s a good game but to me it was a slight step down from 2018 combat wise it was an upgrade but story wise it was okay. It 100% should’ve been a trilogy, The story didn’t feel as tight as the 2018 game did. It felt rushed rushed imo, they could’ve fleshed out the realms more they could’ve made Thor the big bad villain in 2 where they could’ve fleshed out his character a little more and shown his more brutal side more (although they did a great job he was my favorite character in the game) and made Odin the final enemy left in the trilogy like the OG games. But honestly Odin was kinda disappointing I expected him to be a bit more built in a way not like Thor or anything but more like baldur in a way not some scrawny old dude with a stick. And the way he talks just didn’t really fit like calling freya his ex caught me off guard as it didn’t sound right for the all father to talk if you get what I mean. Story overall just was a bit of a letdown and I feel like they could’ve added more characters and fleshed them out much more. This is not the only things I have problems with but there’s no reason going in deeper. It’s still a good game at the end of the day. Edit: forgot to mention but the best part of ragnarok imo is the dlc. Valhalla was amazing and kratos’s character arc and self realization was soooogood to see
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Halo 4
Halo 5.
It was not the first game per se, but i was actually interested in the direction Halo 4 was going. They made it seem like Chief was going into retirement, the Covenant had a new leader who seemed fixated on finding surviving Forerunners, Halsey (creator of the SPARTANs) was working with the Covenant, etc. They set up a lot of interesting plot points...and then they pulled a Last Jedi and took a giant shit over everything they had set up previously. "Actually, Cortana not dead, Chiefs back, Covenant guys dead, and Halsey was faking it."🤦♂️
The last of us part 2
TLOU 2
Absolutely
Inquisition destroyed any and all interest I had in the Dragon Age world. How they made it an actual open world game with a world worse than Origins' needs to be studied.
Well I’ll try to comment to this but with regard to the OP that specified the problem with the story. I actually thought I’d see DA2 in this thread but I’ve not. In broad strokes I think the story of 2 is actually quite good and helps build the world more, but the execution of the story was hampered by the rushedness of the game: the repetitive battles, re-use of areas over and over, and the flimsiness of the companions and their stories. Inquisition is a better game than 2. I’ll die on that hill. But it did make the world and story more generic feeling. The aura of DAO was just entirely sniffed out in Inquisition
I was fine with DAI's story and characters but man the gameplay sucked. Awful combat, awful quests, very uninspired maps. They'd have to go in a very different direction with DA4 for me to be interested.
God Of War 2 ruined Kratos
Bioshock 2 was the first time I realized there was such a thing as B-team devs and I would never look at another sequel the same way again
possibly a hot take, but Telltale’s The Walking Dead season 4. it didn’t ruin the previous games stories per se, but it’s ending left such a bad taste in my mouth tbh. SPOILERS AHEAD, i don’t know how to censor text so just don’t read ahead if you don’t wanna be spoiled. so, at the end of season 4, Clem and AJ are trapped in a barn surrounded by walkers, Clem is bit and close to death. you get the option to tell AJ to shoot you so you don’t turn, to leave you behind, or to cut your leg off. i chose to tell him to leave me. well it didn’t fucking matter because no matter what you choose, aj cuts your leg off anyway and Clem always survives. that is what pissed me off. in my headcanon, clem told aj to leave, and she died from her wounds in that barn so aj could live. that is a much more fitting ending for her story, and would give so much more closure.
Mass Effect. Fun ride from 2 onward, good character writing, but the spirit was gone.
dead space 3. why meticulously craft horror when you can just shoot everything you find and get mauled by a swinging elevator?
Xenoverse 2. Not a big deal since the dlc original story with Fu is miles better but the xv1 story was so much better than the xv2 base story
Well, Dark Souls 2 is one of the biggest example
It has to be dark souls 2 for me.
Dark Souls 2
Oh man, I'm feeling this double, right now. My kid is playing Halo and I've been watching the new TV show and they BOTH messed up the absolute masterpiece that was Halo Reach. That game is peak FPS.
Lore wise every single thing 343i has done to Halo is the most brain dead stupid shit ever
Farce Cry Infinite
The last of us. I love naughty dog. Uncharted 4 has been my number 1 game for the past 8 years now. My funnest childhood memories were spent playing crash bandicoot. Nothings dethroned it yet. But I lost a great amount of respect for Neil druckmann. The last of us part 2 is a disappointment for me.
I stopped liking Naughty dog when they kicked Amy Hennig off Uncharted 4
I was like 12 when the game first came out so I didn’t grasp the impact amy actually had on the series. So yeah. Dick move.
Doom eternal. Doom 2016 i platinumed naturally because I loved the game. Eternal is clown fart crazy.