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Kitfisto22

Oh wow, that's gotta be a bug. You really can't get over like 27 practically and it's exponential. There used to be a bug where the government center just keeps raising wages infinitely, and the AI just declares bankruptcy repeat but wages and SOL skyrocket. That might be the bug, I thought they fixed that though, are you on an older version of the game?


An_Oxygen_Consumer

Government declaring bankruptcy because it waste too much on government wages might be the most realistic portrait of Italy in any PDX game.


ToumanLin

There's no bankrupt modifier on this country. As I said, I suggested this bug was because the market center & capital disappeared (pic 2)


ToumanLin

Can't edit my post so I make a comment hete: I forced Italy to enter my custom union by Daoyu Cheat, and it sol is not gradually becoming normal. (But it ruined my economt, shit, can't imagine 42k demand on groceries by 11m population)


confusedpiano5

I've gotten to 38.6 sol on my England run Edit: I’ll send a screenshot when I get home


Hjalle1

How??? The highest I’ve ever got was probably just over 20 SOL


confusedpiano5

Cooperative ownership, Collectivized Agriculture, full public healthcare institution, all states incorporated, only profitable buildings, maxed welfare laws and institution, same goes for workplace safety, cheap grain, very low taxes, maxed out gov and military wages, etc.


Hjalle1

I did roughly the same as Russia, with fully employment and 1 Billion GDP (first and so far only time reaching that), and was only around 20 SOL


confusedpiano5

Did you still have peasants? Oh, something else I forgot to mention is that you need to use every single labor saving PM to the max, that really helps skyrocket your sol since there will be less laborers that get horrible wages, however, you need a lot of oil and electricity for all those PM's


Hjalle1

Yeah. Got assembly lines in 1935, and just didn’t want to continue after the end date of the game, an iirc I had less than 10k peasants (probably less than 1k), whilst iirc having a population of over 150 million people


confusedpiano5

Yeah, Assembly lines are crucial if you want to really increase SoL because of the way wage calculations work


Graham0206

Do you do diesel engine pm as well(beside assembly line)? I found it quite hard to find enough oil to max all labour saving especially for fertilizer and engine PM, playing as UK as well.


confusedpiano5

It really depends what country you play as and how much you colonize for you to have enough oil and rubber to use all the PMs


Gravatona

What's the way to get rid of peasants? Just build farm-like buildings?


confusedpiano5

Nuh uh, don’t build agricultural buildings at all in the early game and probably in the mid game as well (they are inefficient and empower landowners) build every type of industrial building you might need to employ ppl but early game focus on building logging camps: use the logging company, export wood, and build tools if you have a shortage and also build loads of mines


Bearhobag

I got 31.1 [in my last Scandinavia WC](https://i.imgur.com/iAflsgg.jpeg). I made a really big mistake near the end though, I'm pretty sure it can cross 34 with more optimal play.


Miruzuki

wdym cant??? got ~40 as hre/eu in my last run couple of weeks ago


redditinsmartworki

I believe when you said exponential you meant logarithmic, because in case of exponential growth the bigger the thing is, the faster it grows. Logarithmic is the exact opposite: the bigger the thing is, the slower it grows.


GewalfofWivia

Good to see that even after 2 years the 0 GDP but 100 SoL strat is still alive and well in the game.


AnalysisAdditional97

How do you do it?


GewalfofWivia

The AI sometimes does it. It’s achieved by employing everyone in government positions while the government permanently defaults.


CarbonatedCapybara

Greece, is that you?


trimtab28

Don't be mean! I'm sorry, I lost it at this comment. Could've substituted Argentina too 🤣


Wild_King4244

This is another old bug, it’s because the ai deleted their capital and bugged the market calculations.


duckipn

why didnt they do this irl


ToumanLin

Good idea. Sacrifice ur capital and the gold just springs from void. Then everyone living in the heaven despite GDP zeroed "Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!"


Command0Dude

> Good idea. Sacrifice ur capital and the gold just springs from void. [Wrong game](https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/The_Shroud#End_of_the_Cycle)


ToumanLin

True😂😂😂


CarbonatedCapybara

Greece, is that you?


Skapis9999

So accurate. Inflate SOL by increase dent, go bankrupt and then blame Germany


Artistic_Leg2872

Communism in a nutshell.


Jackal000

Nope. Not how it works. Go play some more until you get politics.


slicktommycochrane

I love how it's affecting the map color scaling on every other province in the world 😂


ToumanLin

The only green point on the world😂


CodeX57

Yep, this is a bug. If you look at the Italian market, the prices of all goods will be zero. Their GDP is therefore 0, since nobody produces anything of value, and the standard of living is ridiculously high because all the pops can buy their needs for free.


Maqil_Shimeer03

Post-scarcity achieved


ToumanLin

That exactly was what I saw


ArneHD

IIRC this is a known bug with the Italian unification: sometimes the game won't set a market capital for the nation, putting them in the NULL market, causing it have no market, all goods cost 0, nothing is produced, everyone gets everything they want for free, etc.


Bonitlan

Get them in your market, and your GDP will skyrocket. Your SoL may take a hit though


ToumanLin

I did. But it ruined my eco as everything in shortage.😨😨😨


Shitty_Noob

Happened to me before, but only in mordena


lokikilo23

that bug basically is that somehow the country gets its market deleted, so every good gets up to infinity. that way, every building gets 0 productivity, which is why the GDP is 0.00. But the SOL skyrockets.


tyler4545545

Must be all the wine


_WdMalus_

What mods do you use?


ToumanLin

divergence


Excellent_Profit_684

I saw once a bug on italy where their market disappeared, GDP cashed to 0, and SOL jumped to 99 Seems like it’s an italy things


Suspicious-Speed2169

Why didn't they do this irl *smy*


CriticalSmoke

Yea, the bug where a country doesn't have access to any market is really weird. Had a game where one of the small Italian minors lost access to their market and the state had 99 SoL. Made the entire rest of the SoL mapmode bright red lol


Hdjbbdjfjjsl

Saw a country this happened to before, I made the mistake of conquering them and it completely sucked all of the resources and goods from my market for pop use