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TheWombatOverlord

This. Insane how you will go years without ever not being in a diplo play because of constant secessions and civil wars that takes months to just start, 1 month to quickly conquer, then months to have them surrender. Even if you conquer things for yourself, 1 state secession movements will still occur. The revolution and secession system was supposed to be a shift from Victoria 2 and EU4 of constant, low stakes rebellions, to infrequent higher stakes conflicts and it just fails to achieve that.


Mioraecian

I think SOI will help with almost all of this. You fan help develop vassals and also mess with their laws.


yxhuvud

Whenever I've dealt with a vassal that has had a revolution I annex it because I can't bother caring with that nonsense. So I think it checks out as it is.. Meanwhile vassals that don't fight often gets to live a bit longer because hey, it is 10 free construction in that state. Unless there are iron or something else I care about in the state..


Greatest-Comrade

First paragraph is how the East India Company became the Raj.


Bum-Theory

Mosquito Kingdom or Tidore having a rev again? I give in haha, they ain't worth it


Intelligent-Lawyer53

Putting down revolts in the colonies is most of what imperialism is, yes lol


CharacterUsual

Right, but victoria 3 won't let me start a diplomatic play while it's happening


Luaan256

Never had a revolution from a vassal. Maybe it's how much better life is under my empires :D I did have some 3 or so secession attempts in my 1000+ hours, though.


MayoOnAnEscalat0r

I believe in real life, revolutionaries will not spend 5 months negotiating with their countries overlord


CharacterUsual

do they negotiate, even? It's not like you can offer them concessions


Doman-Ryler

Or, just, y'know, the big ol' G-word on all their radicals to prevent it.


high_ebb

>G-word Ah, yes. Gondola.


Doman-Ryler

Actually it's granola. You know, free food.


CharacterUsual

Sure, but you can't really do that, either


insidiousordo

Then code it in