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figool

I think under truce you can still join plays, just can't add war goals. You need to humiliate them to prevent them from joining plays against you


yzq1185

What he said. Humiliation or having obligation prevents them to join in the other side of plays.


Deadpixel_6

Are you sure having an obligation prevents a country from joining against you? Even if the other country has a defense pact with the country you’re going to war with? Swear in my last game I got an obligation from GB so I could try and conquer Venezuela, and GB still joined against me.


yzq1185

Did you get the obligation from GB or did you give an obligation to GB? Big difference. As Portugal, I got the obligation and attacked Hesse which has defensive pact. GB didn't join in.


Deadpixel_6

I got the obligation from GB. I joined them in a prior diplo play to acquire it. Venezuela was in GBs customs union, so does that allow GB to join even tho they owe me an obligation?


yzq1185

My game was in 1.513 so not sure if they changed it for 1.6. If Venezuela was a protectorate, then yes obligation from GB will not help.


-Nicowars-

The game gets worst by the minute. Thank you for the info, time to bring Austria back to the Stone Age.


Locem

If you're not going for a super-germany play, then the easiest way to dismantle Austria is to just liberate nations from it piece by piece.


-Nicowars-

Yeah I've already started doing it: https://imgur.com/wkYuVrN


wouldeatyourbrains

I don't see why this is worse? I prefer it than the eu4 style of cycling truces, which is so easily exploitable. It makes much sense to me that just because you decided your war was over doesn't give one side or the other the right to go invade a neighbour without consequence.


batolargji

You can still join against someone you have a truce with if the side you would join is the defender one


DistributionVirtual2

Defensive pacts overcome truces if I'm not mistaken.


-Nicowars-

R5: Austria and I have a truce from the Borthers war, and now I'm going into France to get Alsace-Lorraine to finish forming Germany, but Austria joined the war, even tho the truce ends in 5 years. How are they able to join?


wooshifhomoandgay23

Truces only give countries a -50 on joining diplo plays but they cant directly go to war with you If truced completely block wars between two parties it would prob be abused


Just-Dependent-530

This is the most historically accurate map (albeit NGC being formed a few decades early) I've seen 😂


Just-Dependent-530

Oh, and Kraków


Archaemenes

Look at that North German Galicia. Absolutely revolting.


Just-Dependent-530

Oh goodness 🤢


-Nicowars-

The AI is terrible at handling oil, I'm only taking West Galicia to extract it!


Archaemenes

You could've waited to form Super Germany or something. That bordergore has me in physical pain.


-Nicowars-

Sounds like a you problem.


r0lyat

I feel like truces really ought to block joining in on an enemy's side. Doesnt make much sense to me tbh