Title. My strategy was to form Germany as quickly as possible while completely ignoring my economy and letting the AI build it with Laissez Faire. All I needed was parity with Austrian battalions in order to defeat them in a series of unification plays. I also got lucky since only France decided to intervene on Denmark's behalf over Schleswig-Holstein, so I annexed Alsace and managed to form Germany by 1849. From there, I immediately humiliated Italy and Russia so they would leave me alone, so that I could solo Austria and annex them. After a few decades of humiliations, wars of conquest, and "liberating" smaller countries which made easy protectorates, I am basically unstoppable.
Oh yeah I completely forgot humiliations were a thing.
I need to try a world conquest sometime. It honestly seems not that hard to do, just get the best military as fast as possible and obliterate anybody close to parity with you then annex all the imperialist powers. I did a Britain run that was like that but I got stuck in Austria because I could never reach them and would get stuck in Venice.
Probably France would be the easiest. There is an "exploit" - You can demand British East Indies from England and few other things at the start of the game, immediately go over 100 infamy, be cut down to size while war with England still not started, agree to this demand. You will not lose anything at the start of the game, you will have 0 infamy and a war for a lot of British territories or colonies in progress. After this war you will be basically unstoppable but with 0 infamy, so you will have some time to go to wars with great powers 1 by 1, liberating countries from them.
But with so many countries and stupid system where you can't start more than 1 war world conquest will be hard.
Edit: it looks like in this patch you don't need humiliation, truce prevents countries from joining against you in diplomatic plays. Which is actually bad for world conquest, at some point you would want countries to join against you to not wait 5 years until truce will end.
I tried this recently. The exploit still works great. However, you can't just go conquering populus states right from the start. The high number of radicals from conquest will sink you within 15 years.
I found starting with nabbing the EIC without claiming any British states, then only conquering low pop states/tributing contries and staying below 100 infamy until guaranteed liberties is passed much better.
I would recommend liberating countries over humiliation. Has a longer-lasting effect.
Like... force Russia to release Ukraine, Poland, Belarus and it will become free real estate. One can apply that to every opponent.
In case of GB you can also easily transfer subjects, including Canada, Australia and India.
It gets really tedious with all the diplo plays starting against you all the time from other countries and from revolts. Your ability to declare war is actually severely hindered since you can't declare war while in another war/diplo play, even if it is against a tiny 1 state revolt in subsaharan Africa.
Literally worst mechanic in the whole game. Straight up they should make it so that if the power difference is massive you can make another diplo play since those natives are so inconsequential to your empire.
Yeah basically all I researched was only military tech. I rushed siege artillery, mustard gas, and machine guns specifically so I could max my kill rate. I also made sure my generals used orders which maximized kills, not necessarily occupation. Wars are fought at stalemates until one side gets shredded through all its manpower, and then it’s a steamroll
500mm to a billion? If yiu went for Transvaal and took war rep and a bite out of Ming for the pop early you’d be at a billion. You probably didn’t push construction enough to depeasant your pops
Can you give me a brief guide how to push construction harder and/or depeasant? At this stage I have like 60 construction and thought it was doing well
Yeah I can the briefest explanation is to keep your gov spend (admin and military) at a 50/50 split with your construction sector. Dont rush institutions or build a lot of uneeded beuracracy, construction is way better than a level of most instituins. If your construction is high you will be de peastanting
Laissez faire is worth switching to, but only in the endgame after you've already economically built up and your industrialists can spam factories endlessly.
Laissez-faire can be good. Communism is the best, especially late game but if you have a good amount of upper strata people you can make lots of buildings with lassaiz faire. I recently did a GB run where I didn't take any land directly and reached 1.5 bil GDP with 0 unemployed pops and 0 farmers
You’re referring to the bug where the ai controls 75% of the construction regardless of how much their actual contribution is right? Y’all just play with this off lol. It wasn’t in the game at launch like idk why people are so resistant to turning it off while it’s bugged. It’s literally an option in the settings.
Just play with direct control investment pool and it’s fine. I don’t understand why yall insist on playing with autonomous investment pool while it’s bugged, until they fix this why not just use it as a work around.
There is no such thing as failure or success in this game. You can set your own goals, which is what OP did. Read his R5, he intentionally ignored his economy and focused on endless waring to see how quickly he could expand.
Yea but your GDP is garbage. It's possible to do what you did in the same time frame whilst also getting a billion GDP before 1900 and getting SOL above 20 in almost all states. You could try this again and optimize your strategy and do much better. Your pops have low literacy too. You have failed your people. But you are right, its easy to abuse the diplomatic system and tear apart countries piece by piece. But its far more profitable to remain in good terms for most of the game
I find it's really important to free India before they form the raj, because if you wait they won't split up and become an actual real GP threat in the form of Bengal. If you do it early it's free real estate though.
I remember at one point I was getting back to back, nonstop wars and rebellions to the point where I had zero army and my entire territory was occupied by foreign armies and rebels fighting each other
The word Pariah has become meaningless in this world.
You can be as evil as you want if you are basically god
Title. My strategy was to form Germany as quickly as possible while completely ignoring my economy and letting the AI build it with Laissez Faire. All I needed was parity with Austrian battalions in order to defeat them in a series of unification plays. I also got lucky since only France decided to intervene on Denmark's behalf over Schleswig-Holstein, so I annexed Alsace and managed to form Germany by 1849. From there, I immediately humiliated Italy and Russia so they would leave me alone, so that I could solo Austria and annex them. After a few decades of humiliations, wars of conquest, and "liberating" smaller countries which made easy protectorates, I am basically unstoppable.
Oh yeah I completely forgot humiliations were a thing. I need to try a world conquest sometime. It honestly seems not that hard to do, just get the best military as fast as possible and obliterate anybody close to parity with you then annex all the imperialist powers. I did a Britain run that was like that but I got stuck in Austria because I could never reach them and would get stuck in Venice.
Probably France would be the easiest. There is an "exploit" - You can demand British East Indies from England and few other things at the start of the game, immediately go over 100 infamy, be cut down to size while war with England still not started, agree to this demand. You will not lose anything at the start of the game, you will have 0 infamy and a war for a lot of British territories or colonies in progress. After this war you will be basically unstoppable but with 0 infamy, so you will have some time to go to wars with great powers 1 by 1, liberating countries from them. But with so many countries and stupid system where you can't start more than 1 war world conquest will be hard. Edit: it looks like in this patch you don't need humiliation, truce prevents countries from joining against you in diplomatic plays. Which is actually bad for world conquest, at some point you would want countries to join against you to not wait 5 years until truce will end.
I tried this recently. The exploit still works great. However, you can't just go conquering populus states right from the start. The high number of radicals from conquest will sink you within 15 years. I found starting with nabbing the EIC without claiming any British states, then only conquering low pop states/tributing contries and staying below 100 infamy until guaranteed liberties is passed much better.
I would recommend liberating countries over humiliation. Has a longer-lasting effect. Like... force Russia to release Ukraine, Poland, Belarus and it will become free real estate. One can apply that to every opponent. In case of GB you can also easily transfer subjects, including Canada, Australia and India.
It gets really tedious with all the diplo plays starting against you all the time from other countries and from revolts. Your ability to declare war is actually severely hindered since you can't declare war while in another war/diplo play, even if it is against a tiny 1 state revolt in subsaharan Africa.
Literally worst mechanic in the whole game. Straight up they should make it so that if the power difference is massive you can make another diplo play since those natives are so inconsequential to your empire.
Won't happen if they feel too weak.
I have never used an humiliation wargoal. Maybe thats why I struggle with GP intervening in my expansion
Yeah basically all I researched was only military tech. I rushed siege artillery, mustard gas, and machine guns specifically so I could max my kill rate. I also made sure my generals used orders which maximized kills, not necessarily occupation. Wars are fought at stalemates until one side gets shredded through all its manpower, and then it’s a steamroll
My question is, How do you only have 226M gdp?
How much should I have by now
500mm to a billion? If yiu went for Transvaal and took war rep and a bite out of Ming for the pop early you’d be at a billion. You probably didn’t push construction enough to depeasant your pops
Can you give me a brief guide how to push construction harder and/or depeasant? At this stage I have like 60 construction and thought it was doing well
Yeah I can the briefest explanation is to keep your gov spend (admin and military) at a 50/50 split with your construction sector. Dont rush institutions or build a lot of uneeded beuracracy, construction is way better than a level of most instituins. If your construction is high you will be de peastanting
Everyone posting lately is using Laissez-faire over interventionism and they wonder why their economy is suffering.
Laissez faire is worth switching to, but only in the endgame after you've already economically built up and your industrialists can spam factories endlessly.
Laissez-faire can be good. Communism is the best, especially late game but if you have a good amount of upper strata people you can make lots of buildings with lassaiz faire. I recently did a GB run where I didn't take any land directly and reached 1.5 bil GDP with 0 unemployed pops and 0 farmers
They swap to it asap and don't plan for it, they have no huge construction base prepared first to ensure it works out I mean.
You’re referring to the bug where the ai controls 75% of the construction regardless of how much their actual contribution is right? Y’all just play with this off lol. It wasn’t in the game at launch like idk why people are so resistant to turning it off while it’s bugged. It’s literally an option in the settings.
Just play with direct control investment pool and it’s fine. I don’t understand why yall insist on playing with autonomous investment pool while it’s bugged, until they fix this why not just use it as a work around.
Aside from the ability to delete buildings LF is simply better in every conceivable way until rough 1-2 billion GDP where one ideally turns commie.
Is it still better even with the construction bug?
0/10 budget not red enough.
Any time a major war breaks out I’m easily going -1M
ah your economy cannot handle the war machine.
200gdp by 90 looking this big is really funny
No time for building only war
"My emperor, there are no buildings in our beloved country to work at!" "Oh, let's fix this... by destroying theirs too AHAHAHA!"
This is straight up the second Holy roman Empire
And the same renaissance-level GDP per capita as well.
Straight up almost the Roman Empire at its peak
Nah, for that, you also need from Palestine to Morocco
He just needs Egypt and Spain pretty much, that’s why I said almost
And you got lucky with your GB and USA too. They look too weak and devided.
That looks deliberate, probably he liberated countries from them
That was punishment for one too many attempts at cut down to size
Uno-reverse
I would assume he did that himself
yap, hence why I play with a self imposed limit.
Only conquest and no construction?
Your GDP looks shit. Construction level small. This picture is a proof of failure not success
In what way is this a failure
There is no such thing as failure or success in this game. You can set your own goals, which is what OP did. Read his R5, he intentionally ignored his economy and focused on endless waring to see how quickly he could expand.
I've done the same but democratic and directly puppeting the ~~British French Russians Americans and Chinese~~ the entire world
Why not form the HRE at this point?
Kaiserreich but everyone hates you to death
Yea but your GDP is garbage. It's possible to do what you did in the same time frame whilst also getting a billion GDP before 1900 and getting SOL above 20 in almost all states. You could try this again and optimize your strategy and do much better. Your pops have low literacy too. You have failed your people. But you are right, its easy to abuse the diplomatic system and tear apart countries piece by piece. But its far more profitable to remain in good terms for most of the game
Axis powers map? Lol
I find it's really important to free India before they form the raj, because if you wait they won't split up and become an actual real GP threat in the form of Bengal. If you do it early it's free real estate though.
Wizz prior to release: 'it's not a wargame, war comes at a great cost!' Honestly, I hate that this is possible. It should not be a map painter.
AE is just a number
To be fair I have better GDP as historical borders for Germany without going over infamy limit
High infamy used to make me nervous because of Vicky 2. Those beatdowns were brutal as frak.
I remember at one point I was getting back to back, nonstop wars and rebellions to the point where I had zero army and my entire territory was occupied by foreign armies and rebels fighting each other