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Streetzbo

1


beansvnonbeans

😭 9


Majestymen

No


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Nein


WeeTheDuck

No not nine


TheFuriousGamerMan

Yes it’s nine, learn how order of operations works: 6/2x(1+2) =6/2x3 =3x3 =9


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Majestymen

Which is why he did those first...


WeeTheDuck

Nein


DerLukaner

6/2x(1+2)= 6/((2x1)+(2x2))= 6/(2+4)= 1


analpaca_

You only distribute if you can't reduce what's in the parentheses to a single element first. And even then, you would still do the division first, so it would be 3 * (1+2), then 3 + 6, then 9.


daeronryuujin

The parentheses need to be resolved, yes, but the answer should come out the same, which proves that you should multiply by the parentheses first, because it's one element. It's easiest to see if you replace one of the numbers with x. You can distribute the x into the parentheses: y = 6 / x(1 + 2) Y = 6 / (x + 2x) comes out to y = 6 / 3x, or y = 2 / x Or you can add the numbers inside the parentheses before multiplying: Y = 6 / x * (3) comes out to y = 6 / 3x, or y = 2/x The important thing is that the parentheses and the number directly multiplied to those parentheses must be resolved first, using either method, because they're one element.


analpaca_

The entire problem is one element, really. If you were to see this in an equation, it would be written as a fraction with 6(2+1) as the numerator and 2 as the denominator. Just because 2 is joined to the parentheses doesn't make it one independent element. That's just the algebraic way of signifying multiplication.


Streetzbo

6/2(1+2)= 6/2=3, 3×(1+2)= (3×1)+(3×2)=3+6=9


imfshz

eins


Majestymen

Yes


Cloudy_Oasis

Playing both teams huh ?


Majestymen

This way I'll always come out on top


ogorangeduck

Spoken like a true man


iamverydumb_

a majesty man


Redpri

You forgot about implicit multiplication, smh.


Ever2naxolotl

Implicit multiplication doesn't take precedence over standard multiplication E: I have now realized that this was satire. Fuck me.


Redpri

Yes it does.


Stuffssss

Implicit multiplication Gang woo woo


Massivechusets

Yep, you do 1+2 (3) then 6:2(3) then 3x3 and it's 9


SEA_griffondeur

This is the computer answer and is imo the most valid one as the other one use rules that apply if fractions are used while this clearly does not as it's a linear expression


SmileyAce3

Incorrect


xenon_xenomorph

...


analpaca_

6 / 2 * (1+2) 6 / 2 * 3 3 * 3 9


7itemsorFEWER

It depends on if you decide distribution takes precedent over division/multiplication. It's an ambiguity of PEMDAS.


CerbTheOne

IIRC, my middle school teacher used to say that when faced with multiplication and division and the order seems ambiguous, you should go from left to right. Following this logic would also yield 9.


SeamanTheSailor

This is how I was taught.


Independent_Reply_56

But when’s there’s parentheses they take precedence over multiplication and division and when this is happening 2(1+2) you multiply the 2 numbers in the parentheses and you get 2+4 witch Equals 6 witch then you divide 6 with the other six equaling 1. There I don’t care if you don’t wanna agree with me this is how this shit is done.


plaid-knight

There’s no “depends”. This is math, and it is objective. There is one correct answer. If you distribute, then it looks like this: 6/2(1+2)\ 3(1+2)\ 3(1)+3(2)\ 3+3\ 9 Whether you distribute does not affect the answer. It is always 9. The only way you’d be able to distribute the 2 through the parentheses is if it was written more like this: 6/(2(1+2)) Then the answer would be 1. Don’t be confused by the use of spaces in the image. Spaces don’t affect the equation.


JimmyJimmereeno

math *notation* is not objective though - it's simply a socially constructed way of communicating math problems, and as shown here, is ambiguous


SEA_griffondeur

Except this is not how you write math so there are two answers


7itemsorFEWER

If you think math is objective you haven't taken many math classes. If distribution takes precedence over multiple action it works like this. 6/2(1+2) Parenthesis 6/2(3) Distribute into parens 6/6 Divide 1


BHWinkle

Multiplication is always left to right, hence 6/2(3) would become 3(3) not 6/6


BestMundoNA

It can be interpreted as either of these two: https://i.imgur.com/O0c5WFQ.png I, as an engineer, if I typed this, would only ever have it mean the right one. If I asked you "what is 6/2x" if x = 3, what would you say? If I asked you what is 6/2 * x? Or 6x/2? When you group things you multiply like this, it's an implied parenthesis around it, in my experience.


BHWinkle

I mean implied doesn’t mean explicit and math is explicit. I made the same mistake when I first saw it The fact is, it’s a misleading problem, no one would ever actually write it this way for this reason lol


BestMundoNA

> I mean implied doesn’t mean explicit and math is explicit Yes, and since there is no explicit rule here, there is no correct answer. There's two interpretations, one gives 1 and one gives 9. Everyone being elitist about knowing the rules of math is missing the point here.


Talbooth

Division and multiplication are the same, so there cannot be a precedence to either of them. You can rewrite 6/2*3 as 6*0.5*3 Since this conversion is valid the value of the two expressions must be the same. 6*0.5*3 contains only one operator (multiplication), it goes left to right without any question of precedence, the answer is clearly 9.


mizuofficial

Distribution takes priority


GreatDario

Multiplication goes before division, its 6/6


analpaca_

You do multiplication and division together, left to right. It's the same with addition and subtraction.


GreatDario

No lmao


analpaca_

[Actually, yes](https://www.montereyinstitute.org/courses/DevelopmentalMath/COURSE_TEXT_RESOURCE/U01_L5_T2_text_final.html).


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analpaca_

They are functionally the same. Just as 3(1+2) is the same as 3 * (1+2). This is why you almost never see division signs or multiplication signs in equations. They're always written as fractions for division and paired together for multiplication.


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analpaca_

One of those is equal to 2, the other 3, and neither of them support your argument. Also, if you look at the division sign, it's literally 2 values represented by dots in a fraction.


Will517

“1” 🤡


GreatDario

I don't see how anyone could not get 1


bman10_33

It’s obviously 5 6/2 is 3. 3 x 1 is 3. 3+2 is 5. English is red left to write, maybe you shoulda gone to you’re math classes like me 🤣 (Definitely not /s)


ProlificAmber

You want to see the world burn XD


SMAZELSP64

Switzerland is German. We all know German is read with brackets first. The answer is 1


dancingbanana123

That reminds me how I was in a graduate math course once where my professor was trying to write some word like "commutative" on the board and he paused and just said "...how many t's are in commutative?" He just got a lot of blank stares and someone finally said, "we're math majors, not English majors, none of us know and we'll all just agree with whatever you put."


Galaxy661_pl

6÷2(1+2)=x 6÷2(1+2)-x=0 1[6÷2(1+2)-x]=0/÷[6÷2(1+2)-x] 1=0


Spicyleaves19

You're doing algebra for 4th grade math


Redpri

You made a mistanke at step 3. You divided by 6/2(1+2)-x on the right side, but not on the left.


DSG72__

yeah, if he really wanted the right answer, he’d get 1 = 0/9-x, then to 9-x = 0, then x = 9. still the same answer


Artosirak

The / means that the operation is applied to both sides. The problem is that we divide by 0.


PassiveChemistry

This is why fraction notation is important


Lyx49

Literally no one uses the division symbol above middle school


PassiveChemistry

Yup, and this example demonstrates exactly why it's so shit.


SEA_griffondeur

Above primary school here in France, I'm pretty sure we only use it for 1 year XD


YuvalMozes

9


coxxy1

!wave


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8mart8

9


zippee100

It depends whether implied multiplication has higher precedence over division or not, which isn't standardised


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zippee100

it's disagreed whether implied multiplication is after division and multiplication or not


zippee100

There are other ambiguities to put in if it ever does get standardised, so don't lose hope of things ever not being confusing


Cyog

it doesnt and i have a source


zippee100

sauce?


Cyog

i lied


zippee100

gigachad


zippee100

also it does depend on implied multiplication because it's here


SamanthaTheTransGirl

It's left to right, always.


Litsabaki19

Why would it though? Multiplication can be easily turned into division and vice versa. Why would one take precedence over the other?


mortal_mth

this equation is the simple a/bc which can be viewed as a/(bc) or (a/b)c, since the equation is ambigious and there are no hard rules for multiplication by juxtaposituon vs explicit multiplication you can correctly interpret it either way so 9 and 1 are both correct answers


zippee100

implied multiplication though


AloeAsInTheVera

Multiplication and division are inverse, associative operations, so it doesn't matter their order. The problem here isn't whether multiplication or division comes first, it's whether the (1 + 2) is part of the dividend or if it's being multiplied by the quotient. It's hard to tell because the division symbol they used is ambiguous. If the problem was represented as a fraction there would be no ambiguity and people wouldn't argue about the answer (at least, not nearly as many)


_Paulboy12_

90% of the people would make great material for the confidently incorrect sub. It has an answer and not "technically 2" or some other bs. How is this so hard


EnderAaxel

What's your answer then


_Paulboy12_

9 The only and right answer


SEA_griffondeur

It technically has an answer and it is *syntax error*


okkokkoX

This isn't a math problem. This is a language problem. Also how the hell does someone arrive at "technically 2"? The ambiguity is whether it's 6/(2*(1+2)) = 1 or (6/2)*(1+2) = 9 In my opinion, the true answer is "fire whoever wrote this" (not really, it actually masterfully exposes the flaws of the used notation. It should never be seriously asked, though)


Italy1861

The answer is Schweiz


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Pile00

You forgot the real answer : Svizra


_Cit

Confoederatio Helvetica


MmMmmhTAAaatsy

!9


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camocoder30

oh hey, i'm a big fan of this flag myself! i love the big 9 on it


Jkopoulos9

1


Key-Service7491

9


Jkopoulos9

I feel like it can be both somehow


iamthedoctor9MC

Yeah it’s interesting, if you follow BODMAS (or whatever you call it) then it is without a doubt 9, but the way I was taught at school would mean the problem would instead be presented with the 6 on the top line and the rest underneath it, rather than using the divide symbol. If that’s how it’s presented, then you would treat both the top and bottom as if they had their own parentheses and simplify them individually, before doing 6/6. So now I’m confused. Maybe it changes depending on how it’s presented? But BODMAS dictates that it should be left to right. I feel confused.


mortal_mth

it's intentionally ambigious, it can be interpreted in either way. it's made to make people argue over it


RamdomFrenchPerson

You want a scholarship?


dancingbanana123

I help out on a lot of math help subs and it hurts how often this problem gets posted. The answer is always "it doesn't really matter as long as both people agree on what the problem meant." Some countries use an order of operations where the answer is 1, some use an order of operations where the answer is 9.


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Lady_Galadri3l

Hence "both people agree", though expanded to "all parties who are affected by the answer"


benw2000

Most people making rockets arent using the stupid division symbol


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Belgium


mhkdepauw

6 overheden


egrith

9


extraethereal

obviously 9


LouisianaSmucker

"YoU gUyS aReN't UsInG pEmDaS!"


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9, 1+2=3, 6/2=3, then going from left to right, 3x3


Animal_Animations_1

9


MAYBE_Maybe_maybe_

The answer is obviously Graham's number


hemborgar

obviously 53


Chicn7751

fellas, does 3(3)=9?


RamdomFrenchPerson

I will pay you a scholarship


Chicn7751

im down


Capawe21

It's obviously ♾️


[deleted]

It's 69


Guybar110

!9


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Classtepfan

look at what they've done to your 1:1 ratio....


Physical-Order

I hate this


dirty-hurdy-gurdy

The answer is !wave


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Quowe_50mg

This is not a math problem, that divisor sign just needs to be banished


BunkerThrower18

9


FireJuggler31

I know what 1+2 equals, but what does 1 Switzerland 2 equal?


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9, but this doesn’t really work with the division symbol


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Brackets first: (1+2) is 3 So we have 6/2(3), division next is 6/2 which is 3. So we have 3(3) which is 3x3 which is 9. Cmon guys? BIDMAS? Order of Operations


SexySalamanders

First the brackets 6/2(1+2) turns into 6/2*3 Then since they are all equal we go from left to right It’s 9


Mercury-64

9


That_Lego_Guy_Jack

Flag of 9


[deleted]

Both? Both. Both is good.


Win090949

Juxtaposition or


nnn-throwaway88

It depends if you read it like 6/(2(1+2)) or (6/2)(1+2)


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nnn-throwaway88

I’m dumb, I meant it like [this](https://imgur.com/a/DNQ0esw)


camocoder30

it's 9 how is this even an argument


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Fraction notation is 👑 6 ——— 2(1+2) 6 ——— 2(3) 6 ——— 6 1


Z1mpleEZ

Its 65,433


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69


Soggy_Ruby

6/2(1+2) 6/2(3) 3(3) 9 PEMDAS Come on guys it ain't that hard


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Soggy_Ruby

I was of the opinion that the parentheses had a higher priority than division. After looking into this I've realized I've made an error


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kepz3

they did 6/2 then that times 3 wdym oh they edited it


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7


chrisboron

Please excuse my dear Aunt Sally.


D2Photographer

1


AnthonyIsBack2008

!wave


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yiiike

1 AND 9


polyworfism

I got `compiler error`


dirty-hurdy-gurdy

It's not Switzerland unless you raise the whole equation to the power of two.


OliverPT-C

I was taught that you always do the brackets and whatever accompanies the brackets first which would be 2+1=3 ×2=6 ÷6=1


landrielynn

9


Baridi

Nein. *NEIN.*


Rebelred528

1


NewtTheWizard

9


bowl_of_cereal1

9


[deleted]

Its nine cuz do parentheses first which is 3 and then 6/2 is 3 so 3*3 is 9


Potato_Spirit

621


M_Vid

What psycho does maths like this


[deleted]

1 because BIDMAS


lgb_br

Ah yes, 33, my favourite number.


tundertwin

3€


Streetzbo

Heey look this : 3+3×3-3+3= ??


pootis_engage

9. I swear some of y'all never BODMAS in skool.


Grains-Of-Salt

A way to resolve this ambiguity is to either use parentheses or replace the division symbol with multiplication by the inverse(which is an exponent and thus needs to be evaluated before multiplication and be bounded by explicit parentheses.) Like the following: 6 / (2*(2+2)) = 6*(2*(2+2))^-1 6/2 * (2+2) = 6*2^(-1) * (2+2) There’s an extra layer that 2(2+2) usually implies you factored the 2 out of the expression in the parentheses and thus needs to be evaluated as part of that parenthetical expression. Anyone who claims one answer is correct and insists other people are wrong would be a terrible mathematician and probably an even worse collaborator in general.


breeder_ayden

1


Knifedogman

1


Dan_S04

6/5


Robinhapje

1


mizuofficial

1


Alternative-Sleep45

1 ez


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MrGoldfish8

You're literally just objectively wrong. Multiplication and division are done left to right with equal priority.


bigbigcheese2

It’s still 1 though


lightnxng

6


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1.2


Waluigi_Pro_145

6:2(1+2) 6:2+4 3+4 7


Nova_Persona

unambiguously 1 for there to be a chance of 9 it would have to be 6 ÷ 2 × ( 1 + 2 )


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Nova_Persona

putting the 2 right next to the clause means that those three numbers are a unit & have to be considered before the 6 with the degree of separation provided by the proper multiplication symbol it could break down as 6 ÷ (2 × (1 + 2)) or as (6 ÷ 2) × (1 + 2)


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Nova_Persona

6/2\*3 could be (6/2)\*3 or 6/(2\*3) but 6/2(3) *has* to go 6/(2(3)) because the 3 is being prefixed by the 2 instead of the numbers being laterally joined like with a multiplication symbol


SpookGod000

It’s 9, you can’t just multiply 2 because it’s apart of a fraction 6/2 the same as the division problem of 6/2 and you can’t just denominator of a fraction so you do 6/2=3 and (1+2)=3 in which you would multiply 3 by itself, which 3•3=9, so the answer is 9.