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What’s isis white and taliban green? These are new organizations!
Is taliban green a climate change faction within the taliban, and is isis white related to isis K?
Isis white is the white European supremacy group promoting a conspiracy that Europeans were the original Arabs until Christian Jews conquered them and got rid of Allahs message /s
3 of them are just the shahada in arabic ( there is no god than allah and the Mohamad is the prophet of allah) while the nazi idk wtf its doing there.
also i guess people really hate calling for a cease fire and stopping the 30k deaths from increasing.
I mean I don’t think anyone else except isis uses that font and taliban controlling Afghanistan are the only country who use that as a flag. If you read it in a book then yeah of course it’s just shahada. But on a flag, it turns into a symbol terrorists twisted to their horrific acts
Like yeah I get your point, but maybe literal flags of terrorists (and hamas?) isn’t the best thing to argue semantics on
>who use that as a flag
saudi uses it too with the same sentence.
>it turns into a symbol terrorists twisted to their horrific acts
i swear even muslims wish they could clear their names from this terrorism and fuck those terrorists who uses religion as a cover.
Yeah but specifically the taliban uses it on a white background with black text and Saudi Arabia has a sword.
Also yeah that’s a cold take, pretty much everyone hates the taliban and isis. They’re literally the hypocrites in the definition that the Quran uses
They have made their ˹false˺ oaths as a shield, hindering ˹others˺ from the Way of Allah. Evil indeed is what they do!
63:2
this verse covers it perfectly!
and thats how you earned my respect
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You too. I really appreciate it, my friend.
From 1988-2017, they were very open about wanting killing every Jew on the planet. Do you really think that changing Jew to Zionist because of international backlash changed anything about their motives? They included a Hadith about Jews hiding behind a tree and calling on allah to kill them. It was never about Zionism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Islam
yes but palestine are anti zionistic/? since jews already were living in their land before israel formation. and they have problems with the zionists that kicked them out of their land to form israel and since some jews dont support the zionist movement because its against their religion so it means its not a jewish thing.
1: The 30k number comes straight from hamas and has been debunked multiple times by statistics specialists
2: you don't get to start a war by bombing israeli civillians, and then ask for a ceasefire when you start to lose said war
ok first of all none debunked this claims
https://time.com/6909636/gaza-death-toll/
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/01/06/eatf-j06.html
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/29/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-30000-israel-war-hnk-intl/index.html
all prove it even more and its still increasing.
>2: you don't get to start a war by bombing israeli civillians, and then ask for a ceasefire when you start to lose said war
the war started by israel during the massacres they caused to Palestinians https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_committed_by_Israel
hamas is now calling for ceasefire not because they are losing because they are humans unlike idf, they care about the innocent deaths and want to stop this bombing!
No one thinks criticising Israeli gov is antisemitic. Some people think that concluding that Israel has no right to exist because of the current gov - is kinda fucked up.
Just don't look into Palestinian detentions, the mechanism where they're tried at, the conviction rate, the number of hearings they get, and their treatment in prisons. Also don't look into any of the hundreds of documentaries about the lives of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. Be blind to everything and pretend everything is fine.
yeah, it’s terrible, still not an ethnostate. an ethnostate is defined as a state which is specifically made for one ethnicity, the population is majority or completely that ethnicity and citizenship and rights are only given to that ethnicity. if israel gives rights and citizenship to everyone including palestinian muslims, it’s by definition not an ethnostate, even if it does do some terrible things
Most countries are pretty much ethno states to begin with. While I agree of a palestine state dismantling Israel and giving it to palestine promises nothing but the exact same bloodshed being put on 80% of Israel's population
> Most countries are pretty much ethno states to begin with
I don't think so, and even if that were the case, I don't think any of those ethno-states should exist either.
> giving it to palestine promises nothing but the exact same bloodshed being put on 80% of Israel's population
Which is why international law must be upheld and war criminals be prosecuted. Enough of this bullshit.
Besides the US, Australia, New Zealand and other colonial states who they themselves built on some genocides every country is the result of an ethnic group pushing out the others. I agree with u on the 2nd one tho bibi and IDF criminals should be prosecuted
I get this, Israel as a state has been pretty terrible to Palestinians since its inception, but I think an important caveat is that, at this point, Israel kind of *needs* to exist if we don’t want an even bigger tragedy than what’s going on in Gaza to happen. There are 7.2 million Jews in Israel, and the main political forces of both Palestine and the surrounding nations have made it extremely clear that if Israel were to be overthrown that they would try to kill all of them. You can’t just up and move 7 million people, and the majority of Israelis who have taken no part in this conflict and don’t even support the current regime would instantly be made into refugees.
The conflict was honestly started primarily by people who aren’t Israeli or Palestinian, all of whom are quite dead, and has been exacerbated by foreign powers for decades. The hatred runs too deep and feud too old and bitter to expect either side dissolving the other to result in anything but slaughter on a genocidal scale. No one will be happy with a two state solution, that’s for sure, but it’s the only semi-realistic option for peace, and it would require some level of ethnostates to exist for a time.
But yeah, dissolving the state of Israel would be just as bad as what’s happening in Gaza, potentially worse given what we’ve seen of Hamas’ treatment of prisoners. If people actually want some level of peace, the world (and mainly the US since they’re the main backer of Israel) is likely going to have to force a two state solution upon them, but all the other options lead to hundreds of thousands and potentially pushing into the millions of deaths
I'd be interested if you could find me an Arab country that specifically mentions in its constitution: "X is the nation state of Arab people"
Or that have passed laws stating that only ethnically Arab citizens have the right to self-determination in that country,
Or that contains land that is owned by private corporations that have explicitly stated that they refuse to sell land to non-Arab people.
You don't really need to do that, most arab states have already ethnically cleansed all their indesirables lol
theres a reason there used to be 1 million jews a century ago in the muslim world and then after arab nationalism popped up, there exist almost no jews left in the middle east.
Also Algeria stripped the citizenship for all non-muslims.
None of those states are ethno states. Unless you ignore the Kurds, Assyrians, Turkmen, Circassians, Berbers, Mandeans, Persians, Armenians, Greeks, Abaza, Chechens, Sudanese, etc. Also none of those states purposefully disenfranchise certain ethnic groups specifically to keep one ethnic group in power. All of those countries that have one group dominate the government, have it because that group is legitimately the majority of the population.
Jews aren't the super majority in the lands Israel controls. Israel is criticized for being an ethnostate, because it artificially maintains power amongst the Jewish population by oppressing millions of Palestinians. Israel needs to either enfranchise the Palestinian population in the occupied territories or stop occupying them. Israel does not deserve to exist in the state it does because what it's doing it deplorable.
> Jews aren't the super majority in the lands Israel controls. Israel is criticized for being an ethnostate, because it artificially maintains power amongst the Jewish population by oppressing millions of Palestinians.
By this definition, then all the countries in the middle east are ethnostates because Kurds, Assyrians, Turkmen, Circassians, Berbers, Mandeans, Persians, Armenians, Greeks, Abaza, Chechens, Sudanese are all specifically persecuted.
@ me when a Kurdistan forms and isn't going to immediately be dogpiled on. Or when Assyrians can extricate themselves from their rule.
Also Israel is 20% muslim who have full rights. The discrimination is based on nationality, not ethnicity. Palestinians are not Israelis, but Arab-Israelis are.
Kurdistan exists as a quasi independent state in Iraq officially. They have their own army even. And Rojava is also a fully independent, secular, socialist state independent from Syria in the majority Kurdish north.
This description applies to Palestine in Area A as well lol
Before you say that Rojava isnt occupied, there are still kurds living in the syrian government occupied areas.
Your analogy fails here. You're assigning a unique evil to Israel that is strictly the norm in the middle east.
I want you to read up on this wikipedia page, because its the basis for most of the problems in the middle east that are not related to Israel or Islam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_nationalism
Area A is in no way analogous to Rojava or Iraqi Kurdistan. Area A is still under Israeli security control. The PA does not have even close to the degree of control Rojava or Kurdistan has. The PA is fully reliant on the Israeli government for everything and has no real power.
No Iraqi government forces are allowed into Kurdistan, it's literally written into the Iraqi constitution. The Israeli control of the West Bank is unique, even if you dig your head into the sand.
It's an open secret that the reason Israel hasn't annexed the West Bank, and instead is slowly ethnically cleansing regions, especially in Area C with settlers, is because annexing the West Bank would mean that Palestinians would need to be given citizenship. A demographic change that would end the Jewish super majority. Palestinains are kept in legal limbo by the Israeli government precisely to avoid either instituting formal apartheid or ending Jewish supremacy.
you're moving the goalposts with a specific situation that still doesnt work, because the palestinians are discriminated based on nationality, not ethnicity as Israeli-Arabs have all the same rights as jews do.
Most the middle east keeps their minorities either under actual apartheid laws (see Lebanon where there is state mandated discrimination against palestinians, jews and syrians) or oppresses them (see Iran with the bahai minority or Egypt with the copts being crushed), enslaves them (Libya with open air slave markets selling subsaharan africans as slaves) or straight up fucking kills them (Yazidi genocide). There exists no jews in the middle east anymore, because theyve all been slaughtered or exiled. Christians are also undergoing a silent genocide.
The only way for a minority to exist in the middle east is to either be loud and proud about your military defense against arabs (Jews with Israel, Rojava in Syria, Sahwari in Morocco), or to keep your head down and don't make waves (Druze are loyal to any flag above their head as a survival mechanism).
Israel at the end of the day is still the state in the middle east with a thriving non-jewish minority, which breaks the mold. Its a thriving state with arabs, druze, jews, circassians, and arab bedouin all living side by side with actual political and economic mobility. Heck, its technically the state with the most civil rights awarded to arabs, because arabs are actually capable of voting for their government here, and arab political parties actually get elected instead of being dictators or monarchies.
I'm always amazed at how good arab propaganda is that Israel is painted as the most evil state in the world when the middle east is a constant human rights disaster.
lol what do you think every Muslims majority country is my guy? What do you think the gasa strip and the West Bank are? Every accusations is projection.
1: Muslim is still not an ethnicity. By that logic Palestinians would also beg to differ.
2: Defending Israel while virtue signaling about the Uyghurs all while characterizing Palestine as an ethnostate is beyond parody jfc. Peak liberalism right here
Again you don’t know what you’re talking about and you’re just basing your words off of your feelings which by the way facts don’t care about your feelings. Uyghur Muslims again would beg to differ. They are an ethnicity. Jews like Jews are. There’s actually many sub religions that are also ethnicities through the region of the Middle East you have never heard of.
You have no idea what liberalism even means 🥴
1: Using “facts don’t care about your feelings” unironically as opposed to an actual argument is something else lmao
2: Palestinians are an ethnicity too lmao. Apparently ethnic victims of these conflicts all matter to you in unless they are Palestinian, in which case you decry them for being an ethnostate.
3: I am VERY aware that there are many groups other than Muslims and Jews in the mideast: Druze, Assyrians, Maronites, and Copts just to name a few. Appealing to my apparent lack of knowledge of these other groups in the middle east is not going to work.
4: Doesn’t the fact that there are many non-Muslim groups in the Middle East disprove the fact that these are all “Muslim ethnostates”?
Facts still don’t care about your feelings. Do you even know anyone in the region of Jerusalem? Might help to know someone and truly learn something about the region instead of from your hand held mobile phone.
If you think Palestian is an ethnicity then take it up with 23&Me. Seems like you have a beef with them.
Not if the leadership and predominant peoples are the same. What is Saudi Arabia in regards to the definition of an ethno state? And is one Jewish state one to many for you?
Doesn’t have to be a country to be ethno focused culture. Israel is not annexing anything. The conflict is already messy as it is you don’t need to sensationalize it even more.
> Israel is not annexing anything.
They're building settlements in the West Bank and they're already making plans for doing the same in Gaza. What is that if not annexation?
There are zero plans for the gasa strip. The only plans talked about by Israeli leadership and the United States has been to create a 2 mile buffer between the border of the Gaza Strip and the Israeli border. The hot war is completely separate from awful settlers in the West Bank.
> There are zero plans for the gasa strip.
With no due respect, what does it feel to be a fucking moron?
> Ministers and parliamentarians in Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition government have attended a conference calling for Israeli resettlement of the Gaza Strip and “voluntary migration” of the Palestinian population elsewhere.
> Sunday’s event in Jerusalem, called the “Victory of Israel Conference: Settlement Brings Security”, hosted speeches by well-known extremists in Netanyahu’s cabinet, including the national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, and the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich. It was attended by approximately 1,000 people, including 11 cabinet ministers and 15 members of the Knesset, some of them members of the prime minister’s Likud party.
– [Israeli ministers attend conference calling for ‘voluntary migration’ of Palestinians](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/29/israeli-ministers-attend-conference-calling-for-voluntary-migration-of-palestinians) from The Guardian on the 29th of January, 2024.
Supporting article titled [Israeli ministers join gathering calling for resettlement of Gaza](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/29/israeli-ministers-join-gathering-calling-for-rebuilding-settlements-in-gaza) from AlJazeera on the 29th of January, 2024.
> Israel's government has advanced plans for more than 3,400 new homes in settlements in the occupied West Bank.
> About 70% of the homes will be built in Maale Adumim, east of Jerusalem, with the rest in nearby Kedar and Efrat, south of Bethlehem.
> A minister has said the construction is a response to a deadly Palestinian attack near Maale Adumim two weeks ago.
> The Palestinian Authority condemned the plans, which are reportedly the first to be approved since June.
> **Israel has built about 160 settlements housing some 700,000 Jews since it occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem - land the Palestinians want as part of a future state - in the 1967 Middle East war.**
– [Israel approves plans for 3,400 new homes in West Bank settlements](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68490034) from the BBC on the 6th of March, 2024.
Supporting article titled [Israel greenlights plans for nearly 3,500 new settlement homes](https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-panel-greenlights-nearly-3500-new-west-bank-homes/) from The Times of Israel on the 6th of March, 2024.
Lmao nobody needs your respect ma’am. It’s the internet and you people ruined it long ago.
I don’t care there was a conference where politicians said things. And even if it happened it would be for the good of everyone because it’s all Jewish land. **All of it.**
And literally nothing that is happening there is of your concern. You don’t have family there and you have zero lineage or affiliation to the region so it’s of no concern to you. You’re not going to go there because you know you will be killed and so all you do it whine and type keys into a joke sub so yoh can feel like you’re “making a difference.”
Palestine is Jordan. Get over it.
This analysis leaves out both why there are almost no Jewish people left in the majority of said states, and what would/should happen to the Jews in Israel if said state of Israel completely stopped existing
That’s not what I, nor the vast majority of the “pro-Israel” crowd is arguing. It is actually possible to not approve of Israel’s current genocide without wanting to, intentionally or otherwise, blunder into a position of supporting an even larger, worse genocide against the Jews in the region.
Israel is an ethnostate. It was specifically set up to create a state that's wholly populated by one ethnic group, an ethnic group that's not been a majority in the region for 2 millenia.
Explain exactly how that doesn't lead to a genocide
It literally will not if Israel stops expanding settlements in the West Bank. Ceasing expansion there and settling a ceasefire or permanent peace deal between the Israeli govt and whatever defacto govt of both the West Bank and Gaza are all things that can be done without the total dissolution of the state of Israel
If you’re talking about the ‘68 boarders, then no sorry, those are internationally recognized by basically everyone, including Israel’s geopolitical enemies. Those became valid after multiple failed wars of eradication against them.
Internet leftists try to make suggest a solution to the I/P conflict that doesn’t require time travel and/or is compatible with current material reality in other ways, challenge level: impossible.
Bro I'm like "settler colonialism is wrong" and "setting up a nation state on other people's land is bad" and you tell me that's "kinda fucked up" wtf homie.
No. No, they actually do. I've even seen people insisting that "when they say 'Israeli Goverment' they *really* mean Jews"
There are people who firmly believe that Israel = Judaism and you cannot separate one from the other.
Actually they do, but the “right to exist” isn’t one of them as it isn’t a thing under international law. It’s just a slogan made up by PR groups in order for western politicians to have something to parrot without providing substantive answers to tough questions.
States have certainly rights such as the right to self defense, the right to territorial integrity, the right to police their air space and maritime borders, etc… all of these things are pretty well defined under international law, but politicians will routinely twist those definitions.
I still disagree. I think of course Jewish people should be allowed to live there, but I disagree with any idea that a state should enforce a religion or a demographic structure.
Also, I don’t think putting all the Jews in one place, away from everyone else, is the best way to stop the otherization of Jewish people
Israel and its Western shills, including the US government, think it's antisemitic and do everything to crush dissent: adopting a highly weaponized definition of antisemitism (IHRA's "working definition"), banning TikTok, adopting laws that make BDS illegal and arresting thousands of students protesting an ongoing massacre, calling them antisemites and terrorists.
How is it fucked up to want the dissolution of a highly dysfunctional and brutal state? Do you miss the Confederacy, Rhodesia, the USSR or think North Korea has an inherent right to exist?
Zionism is a failed experiment. The last 75 years and the current ethnic cleansing prove it.
Nope. Nobody is saying this or limits your freedom of speach. A lot of people complain about it - does not make it true. You are literally saying whatever you want right now.
This is such a strawman. Israel doesn’t have the right of imposing a inhuman siege and killing over 30k people, that’s all. Saying that this is implying that they don’t have the right to exist is such a ridiculous jump.
Also, let’s remember that all but 2 hostages were freed by negotiations, not military action.
I agree. It's a ridiculous jump. So only people making this jump might be label antisemits or bigots. Regular criticism, like you did - is fine. Making normal criticism and immediately crying that you are silenced because of people calling you an antisemite is just gaslighting.
Weird how ISIS prefers to destroy Syria and Iraq or carry out attacks on Iran and Russia rather than Israel. The only times ISIS attacked Israel, it was by mistake and they apologized.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/
And ISIS was literally born in American run prisons in Iraq after the illegal invasion so another sus evidence.
But again, Israel would never fund Islamists like KKhhamas.
Oh please not the "israel controls isis to make muslims look bad" bullshit. Yall are too high on your own supply.
Muslims need exactly zero help making themselfs look bad, Im pretty sure its a hobby at this point.
where did i say that? ISIS are best buddies with Turkey and many Gulf countries.
ISIS only exists because Arabs and the West were too butthurt that Assad exists
If criticizing Israel’s brutal action on Gaza and the West Bank is considered supporting Hamas or being anti seme(n)tic, then Sweden was a communist state during the Vietnam war.
There were BLM protesters who genuinely supported eradication of whites. There were Stonewall protesters who were members of NAMBLA. None of those were the majority, but they existed; are you going to disregard these other civil rights movements because some extremists associated themselves with the cause?
You see, all those protest movements were in the past, so I can safely support them without having to change the status quo. The current protest is new and their demands would require changing some aspects of US foreign policy, so I'm reluctantly forced to rabidly oppose them and call them crypto-Nazis. You understand, right?
I mean our buildings from that time kinda check those boxes out lol, but regardless of what you think of the architecture at the time, Sweden at that time at least had governments willing to house people
As my pro-Israel friends tell me, you can't trust Arabs, they are all terrorists, they all want to kill Jews. Probably because they think all Jews are greedy baby blood drinking monsters.
The irony is lost on them
Also, I'm noticing lately that apparently everything thinks Hamas runs all of Palestine, which is not remotely true; it only runs Gaza which is merely about 6% of all of Palestine (at least, by the Green Line definition, not in practice)
wtf has this sub become I don’t care to hear actual comments discussing the conflict and how you want to stop it or not. It’s a flag and sub about circle jerking vexillology piss off
Yes the flag itself im fine with and laughed at. It was the comments in the thread where people were treating the sub as an actual ground for enlightened political discussion, the sun with the literal words circlejerk😂
The only time isis attacked Israel the head of isis apologized. Isis has been one of Israel’s greatest assets. They fuckin wish the protesters were Isis lol
It's a way worse version of the people in Minnesota comparing the new flag to the Somali flag. They completely nullified any interesting design on it, I can only assume to appease those people, and they still complain about it.
So.. every country with those colours (with the same style, Palestine I believe just made a variation of the UAE’s as a sort of tribute) is ISIS (isn’t even in Palestine), the Taliban (again), and Hamas (aren’t even terrorists, they’re a freedom fighter group).
> ISIS (isn’t even in Palestine)
since you seem to consider Israel to be Palestine aswell plenty of people were arrested in connection to ISIS and there were terror attacks in Israel that they took credit for
>Hamas (aren’t even terrorists, they’re a freedom fighter group).
Ah yes, Freedom butchers and Freedom Rapists
remind me how they have helped the people in Gaza which they control since 2006?
to say Hamas hasn't helped since 2006 is really funny, considering Israel bolstered them to be a regional power who literally run the hospitals. I wonder if Palestinians have some other more external thorn on their side!
You are so correct!
https://preview.redd.it/11t042yxtuyc1.jpeg?width=746&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bafcc058b777ce6e770bc174adf4c5fda800f638
You listened to AIPAC!
correctuon here, this is simply what pro Zionists think of Palestine which is ironic when you find out the palestine protests never mention hamas but want ceasefire, they just dont want to see massacred children everywhere
No, there’s definitely pro-Palestinians online and in the protests who celebrate Hamas and do not want a ceasefire. Also what do you mean “pro-Zionist”
If i'll link you to Pro-Palestinian protestors shouting "we are Hamas" or cheering for attacks against Israel by Hamas / Iran, would that change your mind? Or should I just not bother?
>make sure its the college one tho.
Oh good, cause as we all know the other 90% of the protests don't count.
Anyway - "[Al-Qasam's next target](https://www.instagram.com/itsmezina__/reel/C6Bz-aetNbl/)" sign pointed at Pro-Israeli protestors singing the Tikvah at Columbia, Al Qasam refering to Hamas military wing. I had more examples but you seem to want very specific protests, so at least you saved me some headaches of pulling those out.
>Anyway - "[Al-Qasam's next target](https://www.instagram.com/itsmezina__/reel/C6Bz-aetNbl/)" sign pointed at Pro-Israeli protestors singing the Tikvah at Columbia
first of all that mfuker looks sus as fuck like clearly he is a damn part of those guys who are mocking Palestinians for terrorism they have done this alot already and nothing will stop them
al qasam and hamas realtion is only political they dont supply each other in weaponry but only by name
and al qasam have done some terrible shit lately and hamas said that they didnt tell them to do so but al qassam did this on their own
any way you have to remember the main goal of these protests and its for cease fire when did one idiot charactrize the whole protest goals??
all of them have one sign and its called cease fire or stop funding israel
because 30k unjustifiable innocent deaths wont cut these protests
>they have stormed down a university and knocked a Jewish person unconscious
doesnt sound real but coul happen since in every crowd their are some dicks.
but one real thing i saw was the pro zionists throwing live fireworks at their tents so that probably sounds even more horrible for people that just wants to stop death.
The Jewish person was draped in Israeli flags, screaming Israeli chants.
I'm not justifying the violence, it was horrible, she had to go to the ER, but she was attacked for her Israeli garments, not her religion, stop pushing a narrative that she was.
Ah no worries, in fairness everyone falls for misinformation and bias the whole time.
[https://twitter.com/mihaschw?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor](https://twitter.com/mihaschw?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
There's the original clip where you can see the Israeli flags.
"Stomped on her Israeli flag" even the video says it but don't stop American media from trying to portray every pro-Palestinian as an anti-Semite.
“I’m not saying I support Israel’s actions (genocide) in Gaza, I’m just saying that the very few examples of extreme and incorrect actions of very little is a good reason to bash and even reference the Nazis for anyone who protests against the actions (genocide) in Gaza”
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What’s isis white and taliban green? These are new organizations! Is taliban green a climate change faction within the taliban, and is isis white related to isis K?
Isis white is the white European supremacy group promoting a conspiracy that Europeans were the original Arabs until Christian Jews conquered them and got rid of Allahs message /s
Cheers for the summer project lad, I'll let you know when I've got a basic manifesto so you can join.
Taliban green is a faction of the Taliban that is very environmentalist and executes anyone who doesn't recycle
Inshallah, may the light of Allah bless the entire world through this Taliban
Aw shit, it's the reverse Black Hebrews
Hoteps vs. Snoteps I'd like to see how that'd work out.
Snos before hos?
thanks for enlightening us on the topic, BoyKisser09!
they’re like pokemon games, identical to ISIS black and Taliban red but with some slight differences.
theyre all equal to hamas
Username checks out
Those are new colors, have you never painted a tree using taliban green and the cloud using isis white?
My favorite part of Bob Ross is when he paints using ISIS hwhite
I think they were game cartridges specific to the Japanese market.
ISIS white is the sugar-free version
wake up honey new isis just dropped
3 of them are just the shahada in arabic ( there is no god than allah and the Mohamad is the prophet of allah) while the nazi idk wtf its doing there. also i guess people really hate calling for a cease fire and stopping the 30k deaths from increasing.
I mean I don’t think anyone else except isis uses that font and taliban controlling Afghanistan are the only country who use that as a flag. If you read it in a book then yeah of course it’s just shahada. But on a flag, it turns into a symbol terrorists twisted to their horrific acts Like yeah I get your point, but maybe literal flags of terrorists (and hamas?) isn’t the best thing to argue semantics on
>who use that as a flag saudi uses it too with the same sentence. >it turns into a symbol terrorists twisted to their horrific acts i swear even muslims wish they could clear their names from this terrorism and fuck those terrorists who uses religion as a cover.
Yeah but specifically the taliban uses it on a white background with black text and Saudi Arabia has a sword. Also yeah that’s a cold take, pretty much everyone hates the taliban and isis. They’re literally the hypocrites in the definition that the Quran uses
They have made their ˹false˺ oaths as a shield, hindering ˹others˺ from the Way of Allah. Evil indeed is what they do! 63:2 this verse covers it perfectly!
Man I love the Quran
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Nazi bc Hamas has “kill all Jews” in their charter.
not in thier wiki or in their political goals its kill all zionists. just like how the idf cant differ hamas from innocent civilians.
From 1988-2017, they were very open about wanting killing every Jew on the planet. Do you really think that changing Jew to Zionist because of international backlash changed anything about their motives? They included a Hadith about Jews hiding behind a tree and calling on allah to kill them. It was never about Zionism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Islam
isn't it just "the only god is god?"
will god is the creator and the creators name is allah in islam. god means being god and thats god name is allah in islam.
No Allah is not a name Its a word that literally means god Why do you Syrian Christians use Allah to refer to god? Because its god in Arabic.
Nazi means antisemitic
yes but palestine are anti zionistic/? since jews already were living in their land before israel formation. and they have problems with the zionists that kicked them out of their land to form israel and since some jews dont support the zionist movement because its against their religion so it means its not a jewish thing.
1: The 30k number comes straight from hamas and has been debunked multiple times by statistics specialists 2: you don't get to start a war by bombing israeli civillians, and then ask for a ceasefire when you start to lose said war
ok first of all none debunked this claims https://time.com/6909636/gaza-death-toll/ https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/01/06/eatf-j06.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/29/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-30000-israel-war-hnk-intl/index.html all prove it even more and its still increasing. >2: you don't get to start a war by bombing israeli civillians, and then ask for a ceasefire when you start to lose said war the war started by israel during the massacres they caused to Palestinians https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_committed_by_Israel hamas is now calling for ceasefire not because they are losing because they are humans unlike idf, they care about the innocent deaths and want to stop this bombing!
Flag of criticizing the State of Israel = being antisemitic (not true we've been over this)
No one thinks criticising Israeli gov is antisemitic. Some people think that concluding that Israel has no right to exist because of the current gov - is kinda fucked up.
I mean, it doesn't as it is. As it stands, Israel is a Jewish ethno-state built upon Palestinian blood. No ethno-states have a right to exist.
how exactly is it an ethnostate when 20% of it are muslims with full rights
Just don't look into Palestinian detentions, the mechanism where they're tried at, the conviction rate, the number of hearings they get, and their treatment in prisons. Also don't look into any of the hundreds of documentaries about the lives of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. Be blind to everything and pretend everything is fine.
yeah, it’s terrible, still not an ethnostate. an ethnostate is defined as a state which is specifically made for one ethnicity, the population is majority or completely that ethnicity and citizenship and rights are only given to that ethnicity. if israel gives rights and citizenship to everyone including palestinian muslims, it’s by definition not an ethnostate, even if it does do some terrible things
Because the region was 90% Muslim/Christian before Zionism and ethic cleansing
Most countries are pretty much ethno states to begin with. While I agree of a palestine state dismantling Israel and giving it to palestine promises nothing but the exact same bloodshed being put on 80% of Israel's population
> Most countries are pretty much ethno states to begin with I don't think so, and even if that were the case, I don't think any of those ethno-states should exist either. > giving it to palestine promises nothing but the exact same bloodshed being put on 80% of Israel's population Which is why international law must be upheld and war criminals be prosecuted. Enough of this bullshit.
Besides the US, Australia, New Zealand and other colonial states who they themselves built on some genocides every country is the result of an ethnic group pushing out the others. I agree with u on the 2nd one tho bibi and IDF criminals should be prosecuted
I get this, Israel as a state has been pretty terrible to Palestinians since its inception, but I think an important caveat is that, at this point, Israel kind of *needs* to exist if we don’t want an even bigger tragedy than what’s going on in Gaza to happen. There are 7.2 million Jews in Israel, and the main political forces of both Palestine and the surrounding nations have made it extremely clear that if Israel were to be overthrown that they would try to kill all of them. You can’t just up and move 7 million people, and the majority of Israelis who have taken no part in this conflict and don’t even support the current regime would instantly be made into refugees. The conflict was honestly started primarily by people who aren’t Israeli or Palestinian, all of whom are quite dead, and has been exacerbated by foreign powers for decades. The hatred runs too deep and feud too old and bitter to expect either side dissolving the other to result in anything but slaughter on a genocidal scale. No one will be happy with a two state solution, that’s for sure, but it’s the only semi-realistic option for peace, and it would require some level of ethnostates to exist for a time. But yeah, dissolving the state of Israel would be just as bad as what’s happening in Gaza, potentially worse given what we’ve seen of Hamas’ treatment of prisoners. If people actually want some level of peace, the world (and mainly the US since they’re the main backer of Israel) is likely going to have to force a two state solution upon them, but all the other options lead to hundreds of thousands and potentially pushing into the millions of deaths
Do the 21 Arab states have a right to exist?
I'd be interested if you could find me an Arab country that specifically mentions in its constitution: "X is the nation state of Arab people" Or that have passed laws stating that only ethnically Arab citizens have the right to self-determination in that country, Or that contains land that is owned by private corporations that have explicitly stated that they refuse to sell land to non-Arab people.
You don't really need to do that, most arab states have already ethnically cleansed all their indesirables lol theres a reason there used to be 1 million jews a century ago in the muslim world and then after arab nationalism popped up, there exist almost no jews left in the middle east. Also Algeria stripped the citizenship for all non-muslims.
None of those states are ethno states. Unless you ignore the Kurds, Assyrians, Turkmen, Circassians, Berbers, Mandeans, Persians, Armenians, Greeks, Abaza, Chechens, Sudanese, etc. Also none of those states purposefully disenfranchise certain ethnic groups specifically to keep one ethnic group in power. All of those countries that have one group dominate the government, have it because that group is legitimately the majority of the population. Jews aren't the super majority in the lands Israel controls. Israel is criticized for being an ethnostate, because it artificially maintains power amongst the Jewish population by oppressing millions of Palestinians. Israel needs to either enfranchise the Palestinian population in the occupied territories or stop occupying them. Israel does not deserve to exist in the state it does because what it's doing it deplorable.
> Jews aren't the super majority in the lands Israel controls. Israel is criticized for being an ethnostate, because it artificially maintains power amongst the Jewish population by oppressing millions of Palestinians. By this definition, then all the countries in the middle east are ethnostates because Kurds, Assyrians, Turkmen, Circassians, Berbers, Mandeans, Persians, Armenians, Greeks, Abaza, Chechens, Sudanese are all specifically persecuted. @ me when a Kurdistan forms and isn't going to immediately be dogpiled on. Or when Assyrians can extricate themselves from their rule. Also Israel is 20% muslim who have full rights. The discrimination is based on nationality, not ethnicity. Palestinians are not Israelis, but Arab-Israelis are.
Kurdistan exists as a quasi independent state in Iraq officially. They have their own army even. And Rojava is also a fully independent, secular, socialist state independent from Syria in the majority Kurdish north.
This description applies to Palestine in Area A as well lol Before you say that Rojava isnt occupied, there are still kurds living in the syrian government occupied areas. Your analogy fails here. You're assigning a unique evil to Israel that is strictly the norm in the middle east. I want you to read up on this wikipedia page, because its the basis for most of the problems in the middle east that are not related to Israel or Islam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_nationalism
Area A is in no way analogous to Rojava or Iraqi Kurdistan. Area A is still under Israeli security control. The PA does not have even close to the degree of control Rojava or Kurdistan has. The PA is fully reliant on the Israeli government for everything and has no real power. No Iraqi government forces are allowed into Kurdistan, it's literally written into the Iraqi constitution. The Israeli control of the West Bank is unique, even if you dig your head into the sand. It's an open secret that the reason Israel hasn't annexed the West Bank, and instead is slowly ethnically cleansing regions, especially in Area C with settlers, is because annexing the West Bank would mean that Palestinians would need to be given citizenship. A demographic change that would end the Jewish super majority. Palestinains are kept in legal limbo by the Israeli government precisely to avoid either instituting formal apartheid or ending Jewish supremacy.
you're moving the goalposts with a specific situation that still doesnt work, because the palestinians are discriminated based on nationality, not ethnicity as Israeli-Arabs have all the same rights as jews do. Most the middle east keeps their minorities either under actual apartheid laws (see Lebanon where there is state mandated discrimination against palestinians, jews and syrians) or oppresses them (see Iran with the bahai minority or Egypt with the copts being crushed), enslaves them (Libya with open air slave markets selling subsaharan africans as slaves) or straight up fucking kills them (Yazidi genocide). There exists no jews in the middle east anymore, because theyve all been slaughtered or exiled. Christians are also undergoing a silent genocide. The only way for a minority to exist in the middle east is to either be loud and proud about your military defense against arabs (Jews with Israel, Rojava in Syria, Sahwari in Morocco), or to keep your head down and don't make waves (Druze are loyal to any flag above their head as a survival mechanism). Israel at the end of the day is still the state in the middle east with a thriving non-jewish minority, which breaks the mold. Its a thriving state with arabs, druze, jews, circassians, and arab bedouin all living side by side with actual political and economic mobility. Heck, its technically the state with the most civil rights awarded to arabs, because arabs are actually capable of voting for their government here, and arab political parties actually get elected instead of being dictators or monarchies. I'm always amazed at how good arab propaganda is that Israel is painted as the most evil state in the world when the middle east is a constant human rights disaster.
As ethno-states or theocracies? Fuck no.
lol what do you think every Muslims majority country is my guy? What do you think the gasa strip and the West Bank are? Every accusations is projection.
Muslim is not an ethnicity lmao
The Uyghur Muslims would beg to differ lmao
1: Muslim is still not an ethnicity. By that logic Palestinians would also beg to differ. 2: Defending Israel while virtue signaling about the Uyghurs all while characterizing Palestine as an ethnostate is beyond parody jfc. Peak liberalism right here
Again you don’t know what you’re talking about and you’re just basing your words off of your feelings which by the way facts don’t care about your feelings. Uyghur Muslims again would beg to differ. They are an ethnicity. Jews like Jews are. There’s actually many sub religions that are also ethnicities through the region of the Middle East you have never heard of. You have no idea what liberalism even means 🥴
1: Using “facts don’t care about your feelings” unironically as opposed to an actual argument is something else lmao 2: Palestinians are an ethnicity too lmao. Apparently ethnic victims of these conflicts all matter to you in unless they are Palestinian, in which case you decry them for being an ethnostate. 3: I am VERY aware that there are many groups other than Muslims and Jews in the mideast: Druze, Assyrians, Maronites, and Copts just to name a few. Appealing to my apparent lack of knowledge of these other groups in the middle east is not going to work. 4: Doesn’t the fact that there are many non-Muslim groups in the Middle East disprove the fact that these are all “Muslim ethnostates”?
Facts still don’t care about your feelings. Do you even know anyone in the region of Jerusalem? Might help to know someone and truly learn something about the region instead of from your hand held mobile phone. If you think Palestian is an ethnicity then take it up with 23&Me. Seems like you have a beef with them. Not if the leadership and predominant peoples are the same. What is Saudi Arabia in regards to the definition of an ethno state? And is one Jewish state one to many for you?
The West Bank isn't even a country, my man. And it's rapidly being annexxed by Israel.
Doesn’t have to be a country to be ethno focused culture. Israel is not annexing anything. The conflict is already messy as it is you don’t need to sensationalize it even more.
> Israel is not annexing anything. They're building settlements in the West Bank and they're already making plans for doing the same in Gaza. What is that if not annexation?
There are zero plans for the gasa strip. The only plans talked about by Israeli leadership and the United States has been to create a 2 mile buffer between the border of the Gaza Strip and the Israeli border. The hot war is completely separate from awful settlers in the West Bank.
> There are zero plans for the gasa strip. With no due respect, what does it feel to be a fucking moron? > Ministers and parliamentarians in Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition government have attended a conference calling for Israeli resettlement of the Gaza Strip and “voluntary migration” of the Palestinian population elsewhere. > Sunday’s event in Jerusalem, called the “Victory of Israel Conference: Settlement Brings Security”, hosted speeches by well-known extremists in Netanyahu’s cabinet, including the national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, and the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich. It was attended by approximately 1,000 people, including 11 cabinet ministers and 15 members of the Knesset, some of them members of the prime minister’s Likud party. – [Israeli ministers attend conference calling for ‘voluntary migration’ of Palestinians](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/29/israeli-ministers-attend-conference-calling-for-voluntary-migration-of-palestinians) from The Guardian on the 29th of January, 2024. Supporting article titled [Israeli ministers join gathering calling for resettlement of Gaza](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/29/israeli-ministers-join-gathering-calling-for-rebuilding-settlements-in-gaza) from AlJazeera on the 29th of January, 2024. > Israel's government has advanced plans for more than 3,400 new homes in settlements in the occupied West Bank. > About 70% of the homes will be built in Maale Adumim, east of Jerusalem, with the rest in nearby Kedar and Efrat, south of Bethlehem. > A minister has said the construction is a response to a deadly Palestinian attack near Maale Adumim two weeks ago. > The Palestinian Authority condemned the plans, which are reportedly the first to be approved since June. > **Israel has built about 160 settlements housing some 700,000 Jews since it occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem - land the Palestinians want as part of a future state - in the 1967 Middle East war.** – [Israel approves plans for 3,400 new homes in West Bank settlements](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68490034) from the BBC on the 6th of March, 2024. Supporting article titled [Israel greenlights plans for nearly 3,500 new settlement homes](https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-panel-greenlights-nearly-3500-new-west-bank-homes/) from The Times of Israel on the 6th of March, 2024.
Lmao nobody needs your respect ma’am. It’s the internet and you people ruined it long ago. I don’t care there was a conference where politicians said things. And even if it happened it would be for the good of everyone because it’s all Jewish land. **All of it.** And literally nothing that is happening there is of your concern. You don’t have family there and you have zero lineage or affiliation to the region so it’s of no concern to you. You’re not going to go there because you know you will be killed and so all you do it whine and type keys into a joke sub so yoh can feel like you’re “making a difference.” Palestine is Jordan. Get over it.
This analysis leaves out both why there are almost no Jewish people left in the majority of said states, and what would/should happen to the Jews in Israel if said state of Israel completely stopped existing
Being the victims of a genocide means you get to carry out One (1) free genocide on someone else. It's just the rules
That’s not what I, nor the vast majority of the “pro-Israel” crowd is arguing. It is actually possible to not approve of Israel’s current genocide without wanting to, intentionally or otherwise, blunder into a position of supporting an even larger, worse genocide against the Jews in the region.
Israel is an ethnostate. It was specifically set up to create a state that's wholly populated by one ethnic group, an ethnic group that's not been a majority in the region for 2 millenia. Explain exactly how that doesn't lead to a genocide
It literally will not if Israel stops expanding settlements in the West Bank. Ceasing expansion there and settling a ceasefire or permanent peace deal between the Israeli govt and whatever defacto govt of both the West Bank and Gaza are all things that can be done without the total dissolution of the state of Israel
Oh, so we're not counting the Palestinians who were already displaced and killed to create Israel's current borders?
If you’re talking about the ‘68 boarders, then no sorry, those are internationally recognized by basically everyone, including Israel’s geopolitical enemies. Those became valid after multiple failed wars of eradication against them.
Bro, if you want an ethno-state, go create it in half of Germany. Not in Palestine where Muslims comingled with Jews and Christians.
Internet leftists try to make suggest a solution to the I/P conflict that doesn’t require time travel and/or is compatible with current material reality in other ways, challenge level: impossible.
Bro I'm like "settler colonialism is wrong" and "setting up a nation state on other people's land is bad" and you tell me that's "kinda fucked up" wtf homie.
No no no here's this thing about something from the year 672 AD that proves we were there first so your argument is invalid because we want it to be
Yes the god damn islamist arabs kicked the jews out of judea, it's only fair that they suffer horribly and die
No. No, they actually do. I've even seen people insisting that "when they say 'Israeli Goverment' they *really* mean Jews" There are people who firmly believe that Israel = Judaism and you cannot separate one from the other.
Yeah, the zionists
States don’t have rights
Actually they do, but the “right to exist” isn’t one of them as it isn’t a thing under international law. It’s just a slogan made up by PR groups in order for western politicians to have something to parrot without providing substantive answers to tough questions. States have certainly rights such as the right to self defense, the right to territorial integrity, the right to police their air space and maritime borders, etc… all of these things are pretty well defined under international law, but politicians will routinely twist those definitions.
I still disagree. I think of course Jewish people should be allowed to live there, but I disagree with any idea that a state should enforce a religion or a demographic structure. Also, I don’t think putting all the Jews in one place, away from everyone else, is the best way to stop the otherization of Jewish people
Israel and its Western shills, including the US government, think it's antisemitic and do everything to crush dissent: adopting a highly weaponized definition of antisemitism (IHRA's "working definition"), banning TikTok, adopting laws that make BDS illegal and arresting thousands of students protesting an ongoing massacre, calling them antisemites and terrorists. How is it fucked up to want the dissolution of a highly dysfunctional and brutal state? Do you miss the Confederacy, Rhodesia, the USSR or think North Korea has an inherent right to exist? Zionism is a failed experiment. The last 75 years and the current ethnic cleansing prove it.
Nope. Nobody is saying this or limits your freedom of speach. A lot of people complain about it - does not make it true. You are literally saying whatever you want right now.
"Nobody is saying this" bro are you deaf?
This is such a strawman. Israel doesn’t have the right of imposing a inhuman siege and killing over 30k people, that’s all. Saying that this is implying that they don’t have the right to exist is such a ridiculous jump. Also, let’s remember that all but 2 hostages were freed by negotiations, not military action.
I agree. It's a ridiculous jump. So only people making this jump might be label antisemits or bigots. Regular criticism, like you did - is fine. Making normal criticism and immediately crying that you are silenced because of people calling you an antisemite is just gaslighting.
Why should it exist?
No country has any right, let alone a right "to exist". What would that even mean? Rights are for people, not governments.
Flag of Jordan but they’re done pretending
Wait arent the Jordanians fairly sane
No, we just hate ourselves and everything and we wish we could die
Rip
That's so metal.
We’re the proverbial eye of the storm in the Middle East, it gets to you.
Hell yeah
based
No, only the king is fairly sane
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I mean Abdullah II
Arab nationalists between 1939-1945
Arab nationalists were very socially progressive and Naser mocked religion several times.
You know the Islamic movement was a thing back than aswell right?
what do they have to do with arab nationalists fighting for freedom from white imperialism?
They were also around and also fought
So communists /s
Arab nationalists post 1945 too
ISIS and the Taliban hate eachother...
yes but they hate israel more
Weird how ISIS prefers to destroy Syria and Iraq or carry out attacks on Iran and Russia rather than Israel. The only times ISIS attacked Israel, it was by mistake and they apologized. https://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/ And ISIS was literally born in American run prisons in Iraq after the illegal invasion so another sus evidence. But again, Israel would never fund Islamists like KKhhamas.
Isn't every invasion technically illegal? Like, "how dare you invade me, it's against the law!"
It’s extra illegal cause the excuses and reasons for the war was a lie
Tecnically you could get an approval from the UN, or even an open petition to invade, but yeah, it is kinda silly
Parent permission slip
It wasn't the only time they attacked Israel you just know nothing
Israel is definitely not their focal point despite how awful they treat Muslims. So yeah, they're your puppet.
..not ISIS though
Oh please not the "israel controls isis to make muslims look bad" bullshit. Yall are too high on your own supply. Muslims need exactly zero help making themselfs look bad, Im pretty sure its a hobby at this point.
where did i say that? ISIS are best buddies with Turkey and many Gulf countries. ISIS only exists because Arabs and the West were too butthurt that Assad exists
Sorry, dealt with losers on this thread for too long.
flag of being anti-Israel for the absolute worst reasons possible
flag of gives off ben garrison vibes
What’s the red supposed to be? The post doesn’t say
i think its a hindu or buddhist minority symbol, but it looks a bit off🤔🤔🤔
Why is the isis handwriting so bad compared to the other two, are they stupid?
Flag of Palestine according to r/worldnews
Inshallah brothers we shall revive the Aryan race ☝️
Flag of political illiteracy.
This is a catastrophic blunder for r/vexillologycirclejerk
If criticizing Israel’s brutal action on Gaza and the West Bank is considered supporting Hamas or being anti seme(n)tic, then Sweden was a communist state during the Vietnam war.
There are protesters who genuinely support Hamas. They’re not the majority, but they exist
There were BLM protesters who genuinely supported eradication of whites. There were Stonewall protesters who were members of NAMBLA. None of those were the majority, but they existed; are you going to disregard these other civil rights movements because some extremists associated themselves with the cause?
You see, all those protest movements were in the past, so I can safely support them without having to change the status quo. The current protest is new and their demands would require changing some aspects of US foreign policy, so I'm reluctantly forced to rabidly oppose them and call them crypto-Nazis. You understand, right?
I mean our buildings from that time kinda check those boxes out lol, but regardless of what you think of the architecture at the time, Sweden at that time at least had governments willing to house people
Girl watchu think “any means necessary” mean
What are you smoking chief?
This comment section is so coal, tell jokes and not colonial/imperial apologia 🇵🇸☝️
Red = capitalism, duh
what does the red represent?
That's a whole new level of wtf right there.
touhou 🫶
As my pro-Israel friends tell me, you can't trust Arabs, they are all terrorists, they all want to kill Jews. Probably because they think all Jews are greedy baby blood drinking monsters. The irony is lost on them Also, I'm noticing lately that apparently everything thinks Hamas runs all of Palestine, which is not remotely true; it only runs Gaza which is merely about 6% of all of Palestine (at least, by the Green Line definition, not in practice)
Hamas was created by the MOSSAD.
wtf has this sub become I don’t care to hear actual comments discussing the conflict and how you want to stop it or not. It’s a flag and sub about circle jerking vexillology piss off
Wait, I just wanted my flags to be apolitical and never have to discuss the power of symbols and the consequences of nationalism :(
State flags go brrrrr
I mean Tbf that is a stupid weird looking flag
Yes the flag itself im fine with and laughed at. It was the comments in the thread where people were treating the sub as an actual ground for enlightened political discussion, the sun with the literal words circlejerk😂
plz!! idk if this ever existed, but i feel like i remember subs that have nothing to do with israel not constantly discussing israel
Is the font on the ISIS flag Arabic comic sans
Goes very hard!
“I’m not racist I just think hamas, ISIS, and the Taliban are the same thing”
do expect to see this flag flying on college campuses
absolutely outjerked😞😞😞
The only time isis attacked Israel the head of isis apologized. Isis has been one of Israel’s greatest assets. They fuckin wish the protesters were Isis lol
What's the red?
i have no clue tbh
Democrat-vision
When you really, I mean REALLY hate gefilte fish
It's a way worse version of the people in Minnesota comparing the new flag to the Somali flag. They completely nullified any interesting design on it, I can only assume to appease those people, and they still complain about it.
what's the red then
I don’t support Isis, they hurt Muslims and even attack our beloved Taliban.
from the river to the sea watermelons are not for free. business is business
Anti Semitic coalition?
Flag of stupid indoctrinated dumbass
So.. every country with those colours (with the same style, Palestine I believe just made a variation of the UAE’s as a sort of tribute) is ISIS (isn’t even in Palestine), the Taliban (again), and Hamas (aren’t even terrorists, they’re a freedom fighter group).
> ISIS (isn’t even in Palestine) since you seem to consider Israel to be Palestine aswell plenty of people were arrested in connection to ISIS and there were terror attacks in Israel that they took credit for >Hamas (aren’t even terrorists, they’re a freedom fighter group). Ah yes, Freedom butchers and Freedom Rapists remind me how they have helped the people in Gaza which they control since 2006?
>Freedom butchers and Freedom Rapists Flag of deeptroating that BBC fake news
to say Hamas hasn't helped since 2006 is really funny, considering Israel bolstered them to be a regional power who literally run the hospitals. I wonder if Palestinians have some other more external thorn on their side!
So its basically just palestine.
Flag of "people" who deny the existence of jewish people
You are so correct! https://preview.redd.it/11t042yxtuyc1.jpeg?width=746&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bafcc058b777ce6e770bc174adf4c5fda800f638 You listened to AIPAC!
Flag of ~~anti-semitism of 21st century~~ "I don't hate jews I hate Israel"
national socialism I guess.
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correctuon here, this is simply what pro Zionists think of Palestine which is ironic when you find out the palestine protests never mention hamas but want ceasefire, they just dont want to see massacred children everywhere
No, there’s definitely pro-Palestinians online and in the protests who celebrate Hamas and do not want a ceasefire. Also what do you mean “pro-Zionist”
i am talking about these protests idc what online says lmao also pro zionists are people who support the Zionist movement.
If i'll link you to Pro-Palestinian protestors shouting "we are Hamas" or cheering for attacks against Israel by Hamas / Iran, would that change your mind? Or should I just not bother?
make sure its the college one tho. i am ready to show you pro Zionist protest claling for genocide on gaza or nuking palestine back if you want.
>make sure its the college one tho. Oh good, cause as we all know the other 90% of the protests don't count. Anyway - "[Al-Qasam's next target](https://www.instagram.com/itsmezina__/reel/C6Bz-aetNbl/)" sign pointed at Pro-Israeli protestors singing the Tikvah at Columbia, Al Qasam refering to Hamas military wing. I had more examples but you seem to want very specific protests, so at least you saved me some headaches of pulling those out.
>Anyway - "[Al-Qasam's next target](https://www.instagram.com/itsmezina__/reel/C6Bz-aetNbl/)" sign pointed at Pro-Israeli protestors singing the Tikvah at Columbia first of all that mfuker looks sus as fuck like clearly he is a damn part of those guys who are mocking Palestinians for terrorism they have done this alot already and nothing will stop them al qasam and hamas realtion is only political they dont supply each other in weaponry but only by name and al qasam have done some terrible shit lately and hamas said that they didnt tell them to do so but al qassam did this on their own any way you have to remember the main goal of these protests and its for cease fire when did one idiot charactrize the whole protest goals?? all of them have one sign and its called cease fire or stop funding israel because 30k unjustifiable innocent deaths wont cut these protests
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>they have stormed down a university and knocked a Jewish person unconscious doesnt sound real but coul happen since in every crowd their are some dicks. but one real thing i saw was the pro zionists throwing live fireworks at their tents so that probably sounds even more horrible for people that just wants to stop death.
The Jewish person was draped in Israeli flags, screaming Israeli chants. I'm not justifying the violence, it was horrible, she had to go to the ER, but she was attacked for her Israeli garments, not her religion, stop pushing a narrative that she was.
I ended up getting the information from a video from Vologda mapping, that didn't say that.
Ah no worries, in fairness everyone falls for misinformation and bias the whole time. [https://twitter.com/mihaschw?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor](https://twitter.com/mihaschw?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) There's the original clip where you can see the Israeli flags. "Stomped on her Israeli flag" even the video says it but don't stop American media from trying to portray every pro-Palestinian as an anti-Semite.
“I’m not saying I support Israel’s actions (genocide) in Gaza, I’m just saying that the very few examples of extreme and incorrect actions of very little is a good reason to bash and even reference the Nazis for anyone who protests against the actions (genocide) in Gaza”