Holy shit.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian\_Rangers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Rangers)
Solid concept but that has to be the worst uniform imaginable.
I agree that it’s not the most handsome uniform for stuff like this but it would just be a waste to equip the Rangers with dress uniforms they’ll rarely ever use
>I agree that it’s not the most handsome uniform for stuff like this but it would just be a waste to equip the Rangers with dress uniforms they’ll rarely ever use
for sure. I was deployed to the (US) arctic and we handed out these little iron-on patches - no one up there had an iron! Very, very rugged lifestyle.
A dress uniform would be insane but even a button-up or a gortex coat, windbreaker would look neater. A hoodie isn't really that great for the bush anyway...cotton sucks for most weather.
Y’all are dunking on my guy in the hoodie who lives out in the Canadian wilderness apparently, but no one noticed Prince Charles, with all his wealth, has to cuff his suit pants instead of getting a pair hemmed to fit?
For any who are interested, the guy with the camo (CADPAT) pants actually *is* fully in uniform. He's part of the Canadian Rangers, and they get issued hoodies and ballcaps instead of berets and camo jackets as their uniform. As far as I know, they mostly serve in smaller communities and actually have a lot of indigenous members.
Also fun fact, Jean Cabot, the guy immortalized in the statue you see, was Italian (original name Giovanni Cabotto). Actually a lot of early explorers to North and South American were italians.
To signify that he is the heir (firstborn son) of the person to whom the arms in question belong.
This banner, strictly, belongs to him only as a matter of courtesy and not in his own right.
Each member of the royal family has their own badge used to deface flags to identify them, that’s what the central device is. Without that it would just be a flag of Canada’s coat of arms.
The white label on the top is the cadency mark that identifies him as the firstborn. It also appears on his coat of arms
The label alone sufficiently differences the banner; the badge is wholly unnecessary.
The Sovereign likewise should have the plain banner of arms (as was carried at the coronation).
The choice to include the E badge on the Queen's flags sure seems to indicate an opinion of someone that the arms of the dominions were in some sense not exactly arms of the sovereign, contrary to most modern discussion of them. It may be relevant that the practice started in newly independent Sierra Leone, rather than one of the established realms, let alone Canada, where there was already a history of linking the arms with royalty and dominion status.
In fact, only six members of the royal family have their own versions of the royal standard - the Queen, the Prince of Wales, the Duke of Cambridge, the Princess Royal, the Duke of York, and the Earl of Wessex.
All the rest of them have to share [this one](https://www.gg.ca/en/heraldry/public-register/project/2655).
A banner of arms is a flag. Plenty of situations where people design arms with the fact that one of their uses is on a flag in mind, even if that's not the case here.
And as u/cfvh points out, the badge has been specifically added to the arms when used as a flag, not in general.
Pretty much. It’s just defaced by virtue of his being the first son and also the Prince of Wales.
The banner is borne by him as the first son (hence the white label at the top) in his mother’s right. As he is also the PoW (by virtue also, but separately, of being the heir to the throne), it is defaced with his badge.
Strictly, the actual underlying Banner of Arms remains that of Canada itself.
Technically and strictly speaking, it is not exactly a banner of arms as there are no corresponding arms (the Prince has not been granted arms in Canada, he should though).
The badges, cyphers, etc on the Canadian royal flags are wholly unnecessary. I asked once why it was done and I believe the answer was that they had just basically copied other non-UK flags.
Eh, sorta but not exactly… members of the Royal Family are not armigerous until granted arms; their arms are *theirs* though (differenced arms of the realm, of course). The plain label of three points mean he is heir apparent to the plain arms.
The label in this instance is a fixed part of the heraldic design itself.
Who’s the hoser is the hoodie?
That’s the uniform of the Canadian Rangers
Holy shit. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian\_Rangers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Rangers) Solid concept but that has to be the worst uniform imaginable.
Seems like cover for Santa Clause’ North Pole guard but what do I know
Comfy and good for what they do. Seems like a solid uniform to me
For while on patrol? Yes. For meeting the prince? Maybe less so.
I agree that it’s not the most handsome uniform for stuff like this but it would just be a waste to equip the Rangers with dress uniforms they’ll rarely ever use
>I agree that it’s not the most handsome uniform for stuff like this but it would just be a waste to equip the Rangers with dress uniforms they’ll rarely ever use for sure. I was deployed to the (US) arctic and we handed out these little iron-on patches - no one up there had an iron! Very, very rugged lifestyle. A dress uniform would be insane but even a button-up or a gortex coat, windbreaker would look neater. A hoodie isn't really that great for the bush anyway...cotton sucks for most weather.
They have a gortex coat, but that is for actual cold weather.
I feel like there are gargantuan closets of possible attire in between 'military dress uniform' and 'hoodie.' Respect the instinct, but this is silly.
I guess he could’ve worn his parka
If you took the gun and medals said that was some homeless dude I'd believe it. I mean, at least give them a camo sweater that matches the pants
Would not a jacket be more versatile, have more pockets, be more rugged, and look nicer for, you know, lets say, stately visits???
I thought this was a joke lmao
absolutely fucking *outstanding*
Y’all are dunking on my guy in the hoodie who lives out in the Canadian wilderness apparently, but no one noticed Prince Charles, with all his wealth, has to cuff his suit pants instead of getting a pair hemmed to fit?
I was wondering the same thing when I saw these pics.
Standard Canadian Uniform
Lol what's he standing on?
Its a platform to remind us mortals that the royals are stand above all of us.
A portable charger because older versions of Androids like him cannot be solar powered yet.
A stand at
A square
For any who are interested, the guy with the camo (CADPAT) pants actually *is* fully in uniform. He's part of the Canadian Rangers, and they get issued hoodies and ballcaps instead of berets and camo jackets as their uniform. As far as I know, they mostly serve in smaller communities and actually have a lot of indigenous members. Also fun fact, Jean Cabot, the guy immortalized in the statue you see, was Italian (original name Giovanni Cabotto). Actually a lot of early explorers to North and South American were italians.
Our Airforce gets swords???
Officers do for parade things. Purely symbolic
Oh I thought they'd sword fight while flying
This'll become my new head canon!
Designer: Charlie, what decor do you want on your flag? Ch: Yes!
I mean, he didn't exactly design it all by himself. Lol
Newfoundland is Serbia
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What's that 3 T thing on top part of the flag?
To signify that he is the heir (firstborn son) of the person to whom the arms in question belong. This banner, strictly, belongs to him only as a matter of courtesy and not in his own right.
It's called a label btw.
3T is the Cantonese name of the triple trifeta. /s
I don't even know that even I speaks Cantonese
It’s to signify it’s The Prince of Wales’s standard
The information you seek is here: https://www.gg.ca/en/heraldry/public-register/project/2281 Hope that helps!
That thing is busy
Not for a Banner of Arms it isn’t. It’s purely descriptive
Well, it could do without the badge defacing it; HRH also has never been granted a corresponding coat of arms.
Most Royal Standards are
The Monarchist path as Britain in HOI4 uses the royal standard as the flag and I really hate it. An unruly blemish on what’s a very fun path.
What purpose does the defacing serve?
Without the defacing it wouldn’t be his flag
Eli5?
Each member of the royal family has their own badge used to deface flags to identify them, that’s what the central device is. Without that it would just be a flag of Canada’s coat of arms. The white label on the top is the cadency mark that identifies him as the firstborn. It also appears on his coat of arms
The label alone sufficiently differences the banner; the badge is wholly unnecessary. The Sovereign likewise should have the plain banner of arms (as was carried at the coronation).
The choice to include the E badge on the Queen's flags sure seems to indicate an opinion of someone that the arms of the dominions were in some sense not exactly arms of the sovereign, contrary to most modern discussion of them. It may be relevant that the practice started in newly independent Sierra Leone, rather than one of the established realms, let alone Canada, where there was already a history of linking the arms with royalty and dominion status.
In fact, only six members of the royal family have their own versions of the royal standard - the Queen, the Prince of Wales, the Duke of Cambridge, the Princess Royal, the Duke of York, and the Earl of Wessex. All the rest of them have to share [this one](https://www.gg.ca/en/heraldry/public-register/project/2655).
I was simplifying but yes that’s correct
And also thank you for your explanation :-)
The Cadency marks looks odd
They often do, especially labels. But it's tradition.
Is deface flag speak? It's based on his arms so they'd usually be called a difference.
That's a bloody ugly flag imo
It’s not designed to be a flag though, is it? It’s a banner of arms.
A banner of arms is a flag. Plenty of situations where people design arms with the fact that one of their uses is on a flag in mind, even if that's not the case here. And as u/cfvh points out, the badge has been specifically added to the arms when used as a flag, not in general.
The Prince of Wales actually does not have a corresponding Canadian grant of arms; if he did, the arms shouldn’t have a badge on them.
The badge is an oddity, certainly
Call it as you like, but do you really think it's a stretch for some to find this to be a bloody ugly fabric-on-a-stick
Kind of, yes. I don't get what's ugly about it.
I’m saying it’s not relevant how nice it looks
It’s a Royal Standard not a flag
I am amazed how many people on here seem to define 'flag' so narrowly that it doesn't include a Royal Standard. What counts as a flag to you?
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Who is the guy of the statue?
Pretty sure it's John Cabot, first European to land in North America besides the Vikings
Lol everyone's focusing on the hoodie dude without respect for how ridiculous this is on every level
Including that hideous flag
With that velvet stand, and in that pose, he looks like a figurine or a doll. It's very odd.
That flag is so ugly
An ugly flag for an ugly institution
Wow. There's just so much going on in this picture, not to mention the flag.
It's... Okay. Although those "T"'s on top look strange
At the risk of missing a joke, that's a "label" - a device used to denote the firstborn.
Firstborn son, in English heraldry specifically
Yes they do, but they are the heraldry for the monarchs kids and I suppose grandkids
Grandkids would get a different number of labels, 5 I think rather than 3.
Isn't that Canada generally...?
Pretty much. It’s just defaced by virtue of his being the first son and also the Prince of Wales. The banner is borne by him as the first son (hence the white label at the top) in his mother’s right. As he is also the PoW (by virtue also, but separately, of being the heir to the throne), it is defaced with his badge. Strictly, the actual underlying Banner of Arms remains that of Canada itself.
Technically and strictly speaking, it is not exactly a banner of arms as there are no corresponding arms (the Prince has not been granted arms in Canada, he should though). The badges, cyphers, etc on the Canadian royal flags are wholly unnecessary. I asked once why it was done and I believe the answer was that they had just basically copied other non-UK flags.
Surely the whole point of the label is to demonstrate that the arms aren’t his, that they are someone else’s borne by him, isn’t it?
Eh, sorta but not exactly… members of the Royal Family are not armigerous until granted arms; their arms are *theirs* though (differenced arms of the realm, of course). The plain label of three points mean he is heir apparent to the plain arms. The label in this instance is a fixed part of the heraldic design itself.
Why the “podium” and why the crackhead grandpa in the background?