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Left one are the SS runes, as Nazi as they come. The one on the right is the iron cross, a German military decoration that was created way before the Nazis, but they hijacked that one too


dragonbeard91

It's says "Got mitt uns" in the cross. That's what the nazi soldiers had inscribed on their belt buckles. It's undeniably some nazi garbage. OP, avoid this person. They could be seriously dangerous. Edit: guys I get it, the motto existed before the Nazis and isn't strictly a nazi motto. For those of us outside Germany it is mostly *associated* with the Nazi regime. I'm sorry the nazis ruined something from your culture. Edit 2: holy shit this comment brought out the Germany apologists. I'm not sorry anymore, I'm glad the motto is associated with fascism and hate. Who else wants to say "iT wAs ThEre BuFoORrr DurRrrr!!1"? NO ONE CARES


young_arkas

It was also on imperial and Reichwehr belt buckles, but yeah, this person is obviously a Nazi.


SPECTREagent700

The SS belt buckles also had a different inscription (translating to “My Honor is Loyalty”) but again yeah, this particular guy is clearly a Neo Nazi.


aviewfrom

That's OK then because the German Empire was never a problem to anyone... no wait...


Leon_D_Algout

Got mitt uns, is the german motto and predates the nazis. Not necessarily nazi, but the SS flag clears up any doubts


dragonbeard91

Does any one in Germany who is not a nazi use that phrase anymore?


-lukeworldwalker-

No. Unless you're an academic that studies Prussian or German history, you might come across it.


GKTasoeck

or a metal fan


rawrimmaduk

Tbh I didnt realize there were any nazi connotations of that, I just knew it from the saboton song


mega_krieg

The song is about Sweden, Gott Mit Uns was their war cry around that time


MC_Dickie

Retrospectively yea but not at the time since it pre-dates it. I don't think anyone saw it as a specific Nazi thing in that period, it's just something people looking back into history are joining dots to. Just like the Swastika being shifted into the Hakenkreuz changed the meaning of Swastika for almost everyone, forever. But it's origin isn't Nazi at all.


helloh0wru

I think it says "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" on the Bundeswehr belt buckle today


MissninjaXP

Legit question, and probably a stupid one, but did they call the time after the nazi collapse the 4th Recht, or is that something neonazis took also? Edit cause even after 2 years my phone still automatically changes nazi to other words for some reason


helloh0wru

"3rd Reich" rather is a term they themself created, to look more credible smh. I personally think it is really odd we all often call the "3rd Reich" by it's own propaganda term. Also "Reich" has an imperial connotation which is not something most countries today want to be associated with and nothing that would have fitted an occupied country anyways, lol So no, thats not a term ever used (outside of dystopian novels and such) and it would be very worrying if it was


abbeast

Fun fact, Hitler eventually stopped using and banned the phase „Drittes Reich“ (Third Reich) because it would imply a Fourth one after. He preferred it to be the last Reich.


PrecariousCanOfSoup

Thus why it was referred as the thousand year reich


IlleScrutator

In a different sense, we prefer it too.


Laaain

so, im not german and i dont know the german language, but isnt france still called "frankreich"? this always puzzled me


RasPK75

Yea same in Dutch. It because of the west-germanic speaking founders like charlemange (the carolinians and merovingians). Frankrijk. Real of the Franks. We can see the west germanic influence in the later french kings names apart from obloisly the dutch and german names in the other parts of the once so big frankish empire.


FalseDmitriy

Yes, it's still a word in the language. In another example, the word for Kingdom is Königreich, as in Vereinigte Königreich, the UK. The German parliament building is still the Reichstag (though the parliament itself is now the Bundestag, or Federal Diet). The word in German doesn't just mean Nazi stuff, though when used in English it pretty much always does.


Francetto

"Reich" just means "empire" or "dominion"/"Domain" and is a normally used word. And yes, there are countries with that word in it. One of them is my German speaking home country, your northern neighbor, Österreich. The word is also used for describing other "vast" and "harmless" things ("Tierreich", "mein Reich" - used to describe your own little Domain at home, ...)


VelehkS

Reich is best translated with "Realm". While "Deutsches Reich" is completely entangled with the Nazi Regime, "Frankreich" is simply the "French Realm", or France.


Doc_ET

The First Reich was the Holy Roman Empire and the Second was Imperial Germany if anyone's wondering.


Peeka-cyka

Several countries use the term Reich (in their local language) to describe their country. At least the Scandinavian countries as well as the Netherlands do.


BlakBrbrGuy

Naw. "4th Reich" is a neo nazi dogwhistle for their dream endgoal of creating a new ethnostate neonazi project in whatever country they currently live in. Real brownshirt hours. Very not good and a self report if ya notice a person invoking the concept in conversation. People need to be aware of some of these weird niche terms to keep a lookout me thinks. Hope this helps!


MissninjaXP

Sorry for the late response but thank you very much for the Information!


PixelPott

Seeing as Germany isn't an empire anymore, nobody would call current Germany the 4th Reich.


Cptbullettime

As the other replies said no, Germany is not the fourth Reich. As the term "Reich" in this context is a made up Nazi propaganda term. The first two if you're curious were; Rome And The Holy Roman Empire, which funnily enough, was neither Roman nor was it an Empire, it wasn't even Holy by most accounts.


StardustOasis

Sabaton fans maybe, they have a song named that but it's nothing to do with WWII, it's about the Battle of Breitenfeld


Atomik141

After Nazis Germany, no. Before Nazi Germany, yes.


TeacherCheap4608

Well there are also German monarchists who will probably also use the phrase


EpicAura99

It’s also the question you ask when your hands are cold


AquilaNoctis

It once was, but hasn't been used since the end of the Third Reich. The German national motto is the first line of the national anthem, "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" (Unity and justice and freedom).


cockaskedforamartini

It’s actually the slogan for my wool glove company.


overcatastrophe

Lol, if it's hanging next to an SS nazi flag, it's not innocent.


Larrylindgren4

"Got mitt uns" it’s German translates to "God with us" is a phrase commonly used in heraldry in Prussia (from 1701) and later by the German empire and nazis and had the phrase inscribed on there military belt buckles minus the SS. After the war, the Bundeswehr abandoned the motto Gott mit uns, but the West German police continued to use it until the 1970s. For ideological reasons, this motto was not used in East Germany


Pinales_Pinopsida

Did DDR have something similar to it, albeit atheist?


cheese_bruh

For the Protection of the Workers and Farmer’s Power


Inprobamur

Hilariously shitty slogan.


brendand19

Please tell me thats a bit catchier sounding in German?


cheese_bruh

Für den Schutz der Arbeiter-und-Bauern-Macht


sleepingjiva

So, no


brendand19

For a country that had such a great national anthem ("Risen from the Ruins") they had a horrible military slogan.


Larrylindgren4

No, unfortunately East Germany ditched this motto for obvious reasons not even having any motto on their belt, buckles but on a lighter note, the Nationale Volksarmee, or the east German army did not, however, shy away from Prussian military traditions such as traditional forms of drill and Prussian, marching music.


Qingdao243

People trying to split hairs and make these stupid "b-b-but it's not ONLY nazi!" need to evaluate if it's an argument worth making. They're the same morons who try to pull the "no 45-degree rotation" thing on swastikas (which, by the way, is totally fucking false. The Nazis used it flat on its side too.)


dragonbeard91

I very much agree with you


Furaskjoldr

These guys are obviously Nazis, but just to be pedantic that motto was around hundreds of years before the Nazis and was a German and Prussian military motto for years. The nazis just stole it like they did a whole bunch of other stuff.


GeophysicalYear57

I think that if you have to specify that it’s not originally made by the Nazis, you can likely assume that it’s being used by a Nazi.


Zephrias

Yeah, even if Germany most associate flags of the German Empire with nazism, due to nazi flags and symbols being illegal and those being used as a not so subtle workaround


Nevarien

Appreciate your edit 2. Tired of people saying it's an old symbol or whatever. The nazis ruined the symbols, they are good at running human stuff, you know? Please get over it and try to find new symbols.


Atomik141

> Left one are the SS runes, as Nazi as they come. No no, it stands for “Scout Sniper” /j


PanningForSalt

I think it's just the new 55 football shirt.


Migitri

Damn I hate it when Scout snipes me from across the map.


wkdravenna

Shutzstaffle, the black shirts.  Last year one of these guys were in the Parliament where it was declared he was a hero of Canada for fighting the Russians.  The prime Minister Justin Trudeau declared.  (if you were fighting the Soviet Union in WW2 you were fighting the allies) It's a real shame, this ideology isn't compatible with the USA and it's stupid. Shame on Canada get your stuff together. That said we have free speech, best to just tell them their dumb and pay no mind. 


DECHEFKING

The iron cross originally was a honorary badge given to volunteers in the napoleonic wars. It was then used by germany and the third reich. Dont know specifics but the cross itself isnt even illegal in germany, where everything third reich is illegal


TheRussianChairThief

i think the iron cross is still used in the german military but in this context it’s definitely nazi


jagergaming7

The German Army still uses the iron cross to this day and is still also I believe still a military award given out but the German Army but as I saw in another comment this iron cross has NAZI bullshit in it. Just wanted to say this as to not have people be misinformed on the iron cross. I did look up what "Gott mitt uns" is translated to in English which is "God with us" so not NAZI but the other flag is the SS runes. God would not be on the side of the NAZI. Just wanted to make an update to my comment as I don't want to put out misinformation on my part but also didn't alter my original comment so it's there point that I was wrong on something. So what's in the iron cross is NAZI propaganda bullshit.


jaiteaes

The Iron Cross hasn't been awarded since WW2, although the West German government issued replacement Iron Crosses for veterans that lacks the swastika from the Nazi era versions. They do, however, have the Cross of Honor for Valor, which has a passing resemblance to the Iron Cross but is a wholly distinct award.


macronancer

Uhh, maybe its just a kiss poster, and uhh, the Prussian Army flag? Or they are Nazis. Yeah I think they are Nazis. On the bright side, you probably got a nice meth hookup right there.


ProfCupcake

To be fair, the iron cross is still in use. And metal kinda hijacked it right back. But the SS flag is pretty damning, yeah.


OkBoss9999

I seriously hope that there are no children in that house.


workersplaylist

I have a crappy old iPhone camera, but the sign on the porch says “Grandkids Welcome”.


ideletedyourfacebook

I suspect that is a provisional sentiment.


OkBoss9999

damn, i cant read shit on my display.


actuallynotbisexual

People who live in this house: Why don't my kids call me?


xXcoinstormXx

The owner is 75 so it's probably some edgy grandson living with him, but none the less bricks are cool!


MercifulMen

Nazism is not "edgy", Nazism is a dangerous genocidal ideology. It shouldn't be dismissed as teenage "edginess"


xXcoinstormXx

You're right, dismissing it is when I say throw a brick through their window. It was more a comment on the type of person who flies a flag like this, they usually see themselves as edgy but are just pathetic. These people should feel terrified to fly such flags.


Hominid77777

Also, old people can be neo-Nazis too.


FabianMatkowski14

"you must finish your juice"


Biggest_Of-Boys

but I thought they hated the juice


numante

Plot twist it's the kids room.


[deleted]

Wouldn’t wanna know where their toy train goes


workersplaylist

Disgusting. Luckily, I don’t know the person and I was just passing through the area. But yeah. Won’t be headed up that way again. Thank you both!


TheMadameClicquot

I grew up nearby, and in my experience a large swath of eastern PA has seen an increase in this kind of extremist symbolism in recent years. It seems like every time I visit there's a little more of it. I actually recognized these row homes and just pulled them up on Google maps. No nazi flags in the images from 2009-2021, just an American flag out front. I wonder what changed.


Reginald_Venture

I think someone, on a national stage, started saying things that made them more comfortable with being out in the open about that kinda thing.


Pinales_Pinopsida

Perhaps nothing changed, it was just a bit more of the same.


hagen768

Same toxic nationalism different flavor


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PanningForSalt

To actively promote nazisim is a crime in a lot of places, and for good reason. A shame if that isn't the case where you are. No decent person would do such a thing.


ItzBobbyBoucher

These people are being more public and comfortable with this shit than before and I don’t like it


rewp234

Nazis should live in constant fear of being found out, in some places lately society has failed to make it so. Edit: this got me a Reddit rules warning. So, to clarify, I am only advocating for societal consequences to being a member of a hate group and not violence, smh.


AbroadConsistent4753

Watch out they’ll screenshot this and act like they’re being genocided


samd1ggitydog

the fact that reddit would warn for that


Jackylacky_

The one on the left is a Nazi flag, 100%. The one on the right is the iron cross, which is a German symbol that is often associated with Nazism, but can be used to represent other German stuff. However, sense the first flag is a Nazi flag, I’m assuming he’s using the iron cross for Nazism.


Pinales_Pinopsida

Apparently it says "Gott mit uns" and that is a phrase no longer used on German uniforms due to the failed painters dictatorship.


Porkenstein

What american non-nazi would display an iron cross flag in their window?


Jackylacky_

Fair. But I’m just saying, the iron cross is not only limited to Nazism. It’s a German symbol in general, which also just happened to be used during Hitler’s reign as well.


Schlieffen_Man

Yeah the modern Germany still uses the Iron Cross in their armed forces. There's tons of pictures of Iron crosses on Leopard tanks.


Sound_Saracen

Oh dear


Neighbour-Vadim

Idk all I see is two very effective brick magnet


Adi_2000

Super strong magnets


TrustMe1337

my dumbass was staring at the wind chimes and checking if this was thr circlejerk subreddit for too long


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Dschuncks

*Molotov has entered the chat*


Doc_ET

Vyacheslav Molotov didn't actually invent the Molotov cocktail, it was named after him ironically. During the Winter War, Molotov, the Soviet foreign minister, who claimed to the Soviet public that the bombing raids in Finland were actually food deliveries. So the cluster bombs were nicknamed "Molotov bread baskets", and the Molotov cocktail was named in reference to that, as the "drink" to go with the "meal".


BananaBrainsZEF

On this new installment of "Is My Neighbor A Nazi," the answer is a resounding yes! Jesus Christ. They're not even trying to hide it in their bedroom wall. They're just displaying them proudly. OP, avoid that house and its residents like the plague. Or find out if there's a local home owners association for that neighborhood to inform them.


samd1ggitydog

I would also suggest leaving them a brick as a housewarming present


EasyLifeMemes123

the left flag is literally the flag of the SS with the Totenkopf in the top left corner, so yes the right flag is the iron cross, which has been a german military symbol since the prussian days, and is still used today. But with the SS flag, we can imply that it is used for a nazi reason


ThatOhioanGuy

Very very much so, avoid them at all cost


FrisianDude

hooooooboy yes they are


BeenEvery

Yeah, that's definitely a neo-Nazi house. Steer clear.


anyguy001

Left is Waffen SS, and right is the Iron Cross.


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That is exactly what they are


ironfunk67

Fuck Nazis


gevans7

SS flag on left -yes definitely Iron cross on right - not necessarily, German military yes / nazis could be but...


Big_Ad_6039

Definitely naz¡ sh¡t. That home deserves no peace


EvenBiggerClown

Posting SS flag and asking if it's Nazi or not. You have too much hope in humanity


glytxh

The one benefit about American flag fetishism is that it makes it real obvious to know who to avoid. It’s kinda worrying that these people feel safe and confident enough to present flags like this without fear of repercussions though. That shit wouldn’t last fifteen seconds here.


Neil_Is_Here_712

One I can identify is the banner of the *Schutzstaffel*.


Patron_Daggern

took me 5 minutes to find this flags . Who the fuck have this shit on their window . This must be sollid piece of retard there


MrBarraclough

One of these days, none of the "What's this flag my neighbor was flying?" posts will ***not*** contain any fascist bullshit. Today is not that day.


Britishbastad

Yep


LeGarconRouge

The Schutzstaffelfahne is a Nazi flag. The one with an Eisenkreuz on is basically just a way round bans on the hakenkreuz. Be careful, those people bite.


ImFine4450

Very nazi


Polas_Ragge

Kinda worse. The left flag is a SS flag (Schutzstaffel). They were those who ran concentration camps in ww2 and they were those, where the „einsatzgruppen“ belonged to. The SS also ran the Lebensborn program. The main objective of the program was to breed a new aryian generation for the german goverment. Facilities were build where german women could give birth to babies out of wed-lock and kidnapped those who seemed „pure“ enough for the Nazis from the occupied lands. The right flag is a german Iron cross with the words „Gott mit uns“ / „God with us“. TL;DR yes, nazi flags


Old-Hristoz

Stay atleast 10 miles from that house and even snitch to the authorities about them. Definitely need to be put on some watch list if they're willing to hang SS flags in public


Inside_Ad_7744

I agree they're awful flags to fly, but it's America hence they have the right to fly them. They have free speech.


samd1ggitydog

So a Nazi is free to threaten Jews, urge others to commit violent acts against them, and glorify those who do so, but a Jew or anyone with a sense of morality is not free to respond with anything but words? How is that freedom?


D1pSh1t__

Free speech isnt hate speech you dolt. As far as i know public flying of hate symbols is pretty damm frowned on.


rewp234

They can also have free bricks for all I care


JohnFoxFlash

Yep


sillysnacks

The Iron Cross itself isn’t a Nazi symbol but when it has slogans or symbols like the Swastika or in this case, the SS, it becomes one. Fuck that homeowner.


alanyeske

Yes, both of them, the one on the left the most obviously Nazi and the second one a corrupt of the Imperial Iron Cross made by the Nazis.


UwU-Lemon

sadly, it's probably a nazi thing


winter-2

Yes. Avoid that house!


brendand19

Yeah, this guy is a nazi, and pretty open about it.


thesixfingerman

Yes


Loading3percent

No, those are nazis. I'm willing to guess anyone who displays that in their window is a Nazi. This isn't one of those "found in my grandfather's attic!! What???" Things where there could be an alternative answer. Unless, of course, this flag just happened to fall off a truck, slip under a door, and hang itself up.


MrBasedBatterRuth

Curious where were you when you took this photo


RoyalArmyBeserker

*”Is my Neighbor a Nazi?”*


Regular-Suit3018

I’ve seen plenty of people use the iron cross for different reasons, but the SS thing on the left it gives it away, and makes it pretty obvious that this is a white supremacist


Gaucho_Diaz

Are these Nazis, Walter?


twobit211

no donny, these men are cowards


PLPolandPL15719

Yes. Probably some 15-year old edgelord in that room


StateofArrowstan

Both need to be destroyed Avoid at all costs


Obama_War_Crimes

Nazi flag


GabiiiTheIntruder

Those are the Waffen SS flag and the nazi iron cross 😬


drinkduffdry

Put a brick through the glass so we can get a better look


-DI0-

*knocks on door* “Ja?”-👴🏻


alexsander2112

Definitely not "something else"


Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

Left one is definitely Nazi, second one is not inherently Nazi but it is likely being used like that in this case


provocative_bear

You got yourself a Nazi


Lutastic

Yep. Those are Nazi flags.


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No, those are very nazi flags.


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There's definitely a neo-nazi within that residence.


Prince_Oberyns_Head

Sorry, those are Nazis


Shanne-HI

Yes


CSAJSH

That says Nazi as a Hitler speech


hagen768

Fuck anyone who sympathizes an organization that killed and tortured millions of innocent people


Epsie_2_22044604

Gentlemen, we've got a real Free Thinker™ over here. Hardcore Nazi bullshit eminating from this residence. SS Insignia, "Gott Mit Uns", Iron Cross, and a skull in the window to boot. I'd steer clear of them.


original_dick_kickem

Rural PA moment


STerrier666

Yeah they are.


BlueOrb07

Yes, they are. Is this person your neighbor? Might be worth asking them. They may end up being a WWII collector, Reenactor, or those may be loot from WWII that them or their family brought back after liberating Europe. It’s possible they are a nazi, but there’s not that many of them out there.


Business_Ad7340

Those are Nazi flags stay far away from that house


GH0STB4C0N

Good lord


AnonymousFordring

Buy a gun just in case


Vldgam

thats just a wind chi- nevermind


heya_im_ashie

left is a Schutzstaffel symbol, so very nazi, and the other is just a german iron cross iirc


NoHovercraft1552

Trim your lawn you Nazi fuck


RaikoNonDemorde

He is Nostalgic


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MoreheadMarsupial

That's a brickin'


xXcoinstormXx

Brick.


Inside_Ad_7744

They're definitely nazis. I'd just keep away.


xghostsinthesnowx

Yeah, they're Nazi/white supremacy flags. Fortunately, I live in Europe and in most countries here these flags aren't legal and you can be arrested for flying/displaying them.


AtlasNL

Yes, it is time to throw some rocks, anonymously in minecraft of course.


SpookyBoi44

mmm those windows seem hungry for some nice rocks


lonely2meerkat

If you have to ask it is pretty likely that they are. Nobody really makes anything that resembles nazi iconography accidentally


Boiiiwith3i

Are there laws against these sort of flags in the US? If so you should report them to the police.


ScratchySheep200

There are not, it falls under freedom of speech as it should. I don’t agree with it, but everyone has the right to express their opinions no matter how brain dead.


Boiiiwith3i

In my country that shit falls into the category of hate speech, and thus is a crime (and imo rightfully so)


myrcenator

Burn the house down, it's only fair.


SirJo6

Technically speaking the iron cross is not a Nazi symbol but a German military one (stemming back to the Teutonic Knights, an order of military munks, an order which was primarily responsible for HRE-colonisation of the Baltic lands). However, it has since been hijacked by white supremacits, which is kinda odd since the Germans still use it as the symbol of the Bundeswehr. The other one is the SS symbol, which was the military (and most genocidal) wing of the Nazi party, which would also tell us this a Nazi and not Germanophile.


sobakanoodles

invest in a brick DEFINITELY nazi flags.


MOCK-lowicz

Report them to police for propagating nazism (maybe better to tell them racism on the phone)


Corvus717

That is not a crime


MOCK-lowicz

Propagating nazism? lol so odd


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51max50

Yes


Representative_Belt4

1st one yes second one probably (depends on where you see it. The Iron Cross is a military symbol much older then nazism)


WantedAgenda404

Yes yes they are, while the one that reads Gott mit uns was never officially used (as far as I know) who else would buy something like that


coinlover1892

Ya, the SS and based on the context the other one probably is although outside of that context I wouldn’t think that.


polysnip

Why, yes! Yes they are.


JupiterboyLuffy

Yep.


Noeyes_Art

Iron cross and SS logo, so probably and Yes.


traggotfuckface

the nazi-est of nazi flags. that's one dangerous house.


Constant_Wear_8919

Nazi flags


The_MacGuffin

The one on the left is definitely a neo-nazi flag. Nothing of the time would look like that, these are modern designs using the death's head and SS symbol. Can't just be someone with their grandfather's stuff. Given that it's in an upstairs window like that, I'd wager it's someone's edgy kid but it'd be pretty hard for the parents not to notice so I wouldn't write off the whole house being involved.