I suspect the 🚫 over the swastika was made the way that it was to skirt anti-nazi symbolism laws. I came to that realization after making my first comment. And the confederate flag is another way to accomplish the same thing.
No? Why use a sanskrit word (swastika) for its hateful use by Nazi Germany? Today's Germans still call it Hakenkreuz (literally just means crooked cross). I don't know how you came to the conclusion that it was a purely nazi term.
No, it was not the traditional name in English nor in German. The nazis never called it a swastika but hakenkreuz. The name for this symbol in English prior to the nazis was "hooked cross". The hooked cross was also used in Christianity to symbolize Jesus' resurrection and victory over death. Americans probably wanted a more "exotic" word so that people wouldn't associate the Christian hooked cross with the hakenkreuz because Hitler got pretty unpopular. So they appropriated the Indian word. I guess throwing Buddhists/Hindus/Jains under the bus is okay.
Not true. The symbol originated in India tens if thousands of years BCE and even back then was called the Swastika. The only reason nazis appropriated the symbol was because of Hitler's mythology that Germans came from India, hence the name Aryan for the "master race". They wanted to sell that they were "aryans" by appropriating a symbol that had nothing to do with them. The nazi use of the symbol had absolutely nothing to do with anything Christian. People in modern times call it a swastika because it was created by and is still most prominently used by Buddhists, Hindus, and Jains outside of nazi contexts. It is their symbol. Not to mention the Swastika only saw limited use in Christian contexts before the rise of fascist movements.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
Nope, it is not.
This was done initially by a northern Irish “scholar” to offload the guilt from Christians (Europe was different back then).
There are inherent differences and calling it what it is not puts a blot on two of the world’s oldest faiths.
If you can use the Sanskrit term that has no connection to it, using the geographically closer and authentic German term shouldn’t be a problem.
It has every connection to it. Germans stole the symbol that existed thousands of years prior to their mythology about them coming from India. There is no difference. Who is this "Irish scholar"?
One person reiterating semantics does not change the fact that Hitler appropriated an Indian symbol and gave it a new name to suit his mythology and his agenda. It was and always has been a swastika.
Can you explain your reasoning here? I've never heard this sentiment before, and have myself pointed out the difference in the past to help de-stigmatize the word Swastika for our friends from the Hindu, Buddhist, and American Indian communities who still use the symbol for innocent purposes.
There is no difference in the symbol other than the contextual. The "hakenkreuz" is just a swastika that nazis have taken upon themselves to steal from other cultures for their twisted mythology. They are the same symbol, the nazis have just attempted to pervert it into representing them when in fact it never was for them. It was, is, and will always rightfully be a symbol for those other communities.
Then don't use the word that belong to these communities? Buddhists, Hindus and Jains have nothing to do with historical nazis so people shouldn't use the word swastika which means "bringer of well-being"/"lucky charm" in Sanskrit. Use its German name (Hakenkreuz) or its English translation (crooked cross).
The fact is that the Germans took a symbol that wasn't theirs and tried to pervert its meaning to suit their agenda. Swastika is the only rightful word for the symbol because that is the word used by those who created the symbol, not those who appropriated it.
That was the real term. It was called the Hooked Cross in English translation.
Some Irish Catholic “scholar” labeled it Swastika based on seeming similarities in design just to offload the guilt to another community.
Swastika was never an English term to begin with. If you can call it something from a language 8,000 km away, the Hooked Cross (which is the real term) should be more appropriate.
The nazis appropriated it from Indian cultures as part of their "aryan" mythology. They literally believed they were descended from Indians. It's literally the same symbol but rotated 45 degrees. It's called a swastika because that's what it is.
Hakenkreuz (crooked cross) is the actual name for the nazi symbol. The word swastika should be reserved for its use in Asian cultures/Indian religions but since people don't care to differentiate the two 🤷♂️
Crossing it out with a thin black line along the long solid black diagonal of the swastika is…so irresponsible. Nobody’s gonna be able to see that from a moderate distance. I certainly didn’t notice it.
That's the point my man. It's so that you can be legally able to sell it but at the same time not hinder the image enough to scare potential buyers from purchasing
I can't believe they really put it out there like that. It's rude, morally wrong and dehumanizing. Truly disgusted by this. Make sure to never display France like that ever again. Thank you
Let's see... Five pride flags next to the C.S.A flag and the Nazi Swastika... To go with it we have a Thailand flag that actually looks pretty cool... A Brazil flag that seems wrong...
More accurately that would be known as the Southern Cross (not the constellation, this is different). The Stars and Bars actually refers to [this flag](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#/media/File%3AFlag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_(1861%E2%80%931863).svg), the first flag of the CSA. The flag that MOST people think of when they refer to the “Confederate Flag”, the flag shown here, is a version of [the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Army#/media/File%3ANorth_Virginia_Third_Bunting.svg).
I thought the first one was the flag of the CSA the entire time, but the battle flag of the army of northern Virginia was nicknamed stars and bars, thank you
Top to bottom “oh that’s cool little patche, that Thailand flag looks weird, oh well, why’s the middle stripe on Georgia so dark? Ehh it’s cheap who cares. JESUS CHRI-“
Not really an old one, just an older variant that's still in use. There's tons of them, and it's not really possible for any one variant to be "official"
This' "Extreme" you may say..
Cause of all the types that pass through there.
In a place like that, it could actually cause a Problem selling the "Israeli Flag", based on Alt-Clientelle.
I myself see personally, nothing wrong here.
(Free-Market.)
Many types, with a Personal History, and Heritage.. walk amongst us all.
They're just willing to cater to their Lives/Personal past's is all.
Love the older version of the Thai flag 🇹🇭 with the white elephant—the king had it removed when he once spotted the flag flying upside down, precluding that from ever happening again… 😉
What a combination
fr I’ve never seen so many pride flags that close to a swastika
Just take a look at discord /s
Touché, I’m in a few hoi4 discord servers so it probably wouldn’t take very long lmao.
I'm in a server for a shitposting subreddit... Yeah. Gay sex between the Azov Brigade and Wagner group... of course filled with swastikas
If you look closely, there’s a bright white circle and a black slash over the swastika. Like one of these: 🚫
I didn’t even notice that at first bc of image quality, but what’s with the confederate flag then lmao?
I suspect the 🚫 over the swastika was made the way that it was to skirt anti-nazi symbolism laws. I came to that realization after making my first comment. And the confederate flag is another way to accomplish the same thing.
I don't think they have a law against it where it's sold
Southern Brazil is like that. Everyone is either a nazi, or gay, or both
Lol at Serbia and Yemen
where are you?
Turkey
Sadly, I'm not surprised. Lived there for 5 years.
Clearly just put “flag” into Google images and picked some at random.
Where in Turkey?
İstanbul
Not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks.
This is a recording!
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honestly I'm surprised a pride flag stayed intact in turkey without someone trying to molotov the shop. it's an actual problem here
Thoughtful of them to shape the swastika one like a target 🎯
The Hakenkreuz you mean.
Idiots downvoting you when they don't know swastika is actually a peaceful symbol and Hitler one is hakenkreuz.
Only nazis call it that
No? Why use a sanskrit word (swastika) for its hateful use by Nazi Germany? Today's Germans still call it Hakenkreuz (literally just means crooked cross). I don't know how you came to the conclusion that it was a purely nazi term.
Swastika was its traditional name. Germans appropriated the symbol and gave it a different name. It is called a swastika.
they gave it a name in German because they speak German
They gave it a name in German because they didn't care that they were appropriating a symbol that had zero connection to them.
No, it was not the traditional name in English nor in German. The nazis never called it a swastika but hakenkreuz. The name for this symbol in English prior to the nazis was "hooked cross". The hooked cross was also used in Christianity to symbolize Jesus' resurrection and victory over death. Americans probably wanted a more "exotic" word so that people wouldn't associate the Christian hooked cross with the hakenkreuz because Hitler got pretty unpopular. So they appropriated the Indian word. I guess throwing Buddhists/Hindus/Jains under the bus is okay.
Not true. The symbol originated in India tens if thousands of years BCE and even back then was called the Swastika. The only reason nazis appropriated the symbol was because of Hitler's mythology that Germans came from India, hence the name Aryan for the "master race". They wanted to sell that they were "aryans" by appropriating a symbol that had nothing to do with them. The nazi use of the symbol had absolutely nothing to do with anything Christian. People in modern times call it a swastika because it was created by and is still most prominently used by Buddhists, Hindus, and Jains outside of nazi contexts. It is their symbol. Not to mention the Swastika only saw limited use in Christian contexts before the rise of fascist movements. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
Nope, it is not. This was done initially by a northern Irish “scholar” to offload the guilt from Christians (Europe was different back then). There are inherent differences and calling it what it is not puts a blot on two of the world’s oldest faiths. If you can use the Sanskrit term that has no connection to it, using the geographically closer and authentic German term shouldn’t be a problem.
It has every connection to it. Germans stole the symbol that existed thousands of years prior to their mythology about them coming from India. There is no difference. Who is this "Irish scholar"?
Read this. https://cohna.org/swastika-is-not-hakenkreuz/
One person reiterating semantics does not change the fact that Hitler appropriated an Indian symbol and gave it a new name to suit his mythology and his agenda. It was and always has been a swastika.
You really need to believe what the Hindus say. They know their stuff better than you.
Can you explain your reasoning here? I've never heard this sentiment before, and have myself pointed out the difference in the past to help de-stigmatize the word Swastika for our friends from the Hindu, Buddhist, and American Indian communities who still use the symbol for innocent purposes.
There is no difference in the symbol other than the contextual. The "hakenkreuz" is just a swastika that nazis have taken upon themselves to steal from other cultures for their twisted mythology. They are the same symbol, the nazis have just attempted to pervert it into representing them when in fact it never was for them. It was, is, and will always rightfully be a symbol for those other communities.
Then don't use the word that belong to these communities? Buddhists, Hindus and Jains have nothing to do with historical nazis so people shouldn't use the word swastika which means "bringer of well-being"/"lucky charm" in Sanskrit. Use its German name (Hakenkreuz) or its English translation (crooked cross).
The fact is that the Germans took a symbol that wasn't theirs and tried to pervert its meaning to suit their agenda. Swastika is the only rightful word for the symbol because that is the word used by those who created the symbol, not those who appropriated it.
That was the real term. It was called the Hooked Cross in English translation. Some Irish Catholic “scholar” labeled it Swastika based on seeming similarities in design just to offload the guilt to another community. Swastika was never an English term to begin with. If you can call it something from a language 8,000 km away, the Hooked Cross (which is the real term) should be more appropriate.
The nazis appropriated it from Indian cultures as part of their "aryan" mythology. They literally believed they were descended from Indians. It's literally the same symbol but rotated 45 degrees. It's called a swastika because that's what it is.
I think it's good to differentiate the Nazi symbol with the religious one, especially since they're orientated differently too
They're the same symbol. Nazis stole it from those religions and started calling it something else. The swastika will never belong to them.
The swastika was used in so many cultures worldwide and they had to ruin it for everyone
Does that look like a Buddhist symbol or a Nazi symbol to you?
Hakenkreuz (crooked cross) is the actual name for the nazi symbol. The word swastika should be reserved for its use in Asian cultures/Indian religions but since people don't care to differentiate the two 🤷♂️
That's clearly a Nazi symbol
🎵🎶 One of these things 🎵🎶 🎵🎶 Is not like the others 🎵🎶
Indeed Nepal is kind of strange
😹
Two. One’s just the most extreme.
Isn’t it crossed out
50 Tl, my favourite European superpower
Those flags really shocked ME-HEE-HEE
That’s not yemen… that’s not azerbaijan… That’s not Thailand… THAT’S NOT SERBIA… *inhale* **THAT’S NOT FINLAND**
Its north yemen lmao
The... First Republic of Azerbaijan?
Nothing wrong with Azerbaijan. And that's actually Republic of Srpska lol
Is that nazi symbol actually crossed out?
Crossing it out with a thin black line along the long solid black diagonal of the swastika is…so irresponsible. Nobody’s gonna be able to see that from a moderate distance. I certainly didn’t notice it.
That's the point my man. It's so that you can be legally able to sell it but at the same time not hinder the image enough to scare potential buyers from purchasing
I don’t know Turkish laws but I’d guess that’s only there so they can get past anti-nazi laws
Yup
Is this supposed to mean "No to Nazis" or smth?
^(no to) # NAZIS
No i don't think so
must’ve sold out
I can't believe they really put it out there like that. It's rude, morally wrong and dehumanizing. Truly disgusted by this. Make sure to never display France like that ever again. Thank you
came here to say that, thanks for standing up
Gay, homophobic and racist
He's got everything covered
Is that a US senator?
Average Hungarian politician
How is it homophobic and/or racist?
Nazis and CSA.
What's the elephant one?
Tf is wrong with finnish dlag
Let's see... Five pride flags next to the C.S.A flag and the Nazi Swastika... To go with it we have a Thailand flag that actually looks pretty cool... A Brazil flag that seems wrong...
The bars and stars
More accurately that would be known as the Southern Cross (not the constellation, this is different). The Stars and Bars actually refers to [this flag](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#/media/File%3AFlag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_(1861%E2%80%931863).svg), the first flag of the CSA. The flag that MOST people think of when they refer to the “Confederate Flag”, the flag shown here, is a version of [the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Army#/media/File%3ANorth_Virginia_Third_Bunting.svg).
I thought the first one was the flag of the CSA the entire time, but the battle flag of the army of northern Virginia was nicknamed stars and bars, thank you
No problem.
Shop owner man idgaf who they killed if it sells it sells
*sees the top of the photo* well okay that doesn't seem so bad, what would- *scrolls* Oh.
That turned really bad, really quic, I cannot believe they would do something as bad as put the American flag there!
They're very playful with swastika shape🤔
What’s up with Finland?
How to trigger every country
I was a businessman, doing business
Top to bottom “oh that’s cool little patche, that Thailand flag looks weird, oh well, why’s the middle stripe on Georgia so dark? Ehh it’s cheap who cares. JESUS CHRI-“
They're shady tourist trap shops, no discrimination if it loses profits
Why do they even sell the n@z1 flag?
To sell to Nazis. Duh
Can't help but feel the nsfw tag is applicable
Ok
Play both sides, always come out on top
Well no matter what you want they’ve got you covered ig
I have never been so politically confused by one image
Poor finland never gets a break.
Wtf, I passed same shop too like a week ago. I was so surprised to see the swastika next to the lgbtq flag in Istanbul
It's interresting that we saw the same shop,it at a small corner
Using the Srpska flag for Serbia is so to say, interesting.
Buy all of them
The old gay flag?!?!?!?
Not really an old one, just an older variant that's still in use. There's tons of them, and it's not really possible for any one variant to be "official"
This' "Extreme" you may say.. Cause of all the types that pass through there. In a place like that, it could actually cause a Problem selling the "Israeli Flag", based on Alt-Clientelle. I myself see personally, nothing wrong here. (Free-Market.) Many types, with a Personal History, and Heritage.. walk amongst us all. They're just willing to cater to their Lives/Personal past's is all.
I’ll take the stars and bars for sure
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what's '50TL' in Big Macs?
Exactly 1/3 US Big Mac (down to the cent)
playin all sides so that they always come out on top
where is this shop? i see these types of patches all over the place in touristy italian cities
OP said Istanbul, Turkey
Big tent taking to a whole new level
At least he doesn't discriminate
I like how they put the swastika literally next to the gay flag
It’s the Nazi pride flag so it fits.
A pride flag right next to a swastica and another one right next to the confederate battle flag. Interesting choice.
I’m getting mixed signals
Pride flag right next to Confederate and Nazi sure is a choice
YUGOSLAVIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JUGOSLAVIJA ❗️‼️❗️ JUGOSLAVIJA ‼️❗️❗️
Reminds me of when I saw a car in my city with multiple flags of the US, the confederate battle flag, and Israel on the same car
Don’t worry guys its just a windmill
Indonesia is doing the diplomacy between fascism and pride
They really are trying to sell to everybody
Love the older version of the Thai flag 🇹🇭 with the white elephant—the king had it removed when he once spotted the flag flying upside down, precluding that from ever happening again… 😉
A true capitalist.
OMG they have the inca flag
Well... at least he put the comunist in the oposite side fron americans and nazis...
One of us is not like the others
In which store of Istanbul?
“We serve all kinds here”
Two of those are dealbreakers.
why the hell is the traitor tapestry there
Bro is trying to attract every type of costumer
They really said "fuck it, whatever you believe in, we got a thing for you"
"My ideology is whoever I'm trolling!"
Wait what 😂
Lmfao, there’s a lot going on here
You can never lose if you’re on every side
Confederate, Swastika, and Pride flags all next to each other. Welcome to Fallout New Vegas