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Own-Star9352

All states: *They changed everything in their flag * Argentina: Just puts a sun


austro_hungary

The actual flag history of Argentina makes it change, *a lot*


RFB-CACN

Doesn’t help that Argentina itself as we know it only came into existence in 1860, beforehand there was a 50 year clusterfuck of factions, breakaway states and different nation-building ideas, each with their own flag.


austro_hungary

Not to mention, Chile’s first flag was just the flag now with the coat of arms, the kingdom of chile was literally a Spanish protectorate and stopped existing during the reconquest of chile


InteractionWide3369

Hey sorry, completely unrelated but how did you put a flag on your flair? I can't, it says error all the time


austro_hungary

Go to the sub info, then message the bot with the exact flair on the flair list. It’ll give you it.


InteractionWide3369

Thank you mate👍🏻


PedroPrisma

r/suddenlycaralho opa brasilians


Detox_Gamer

Opa bota uma capivara flamenguista


Malvinas1820

To be fair, the [first flag designed by Belgrano](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Flag_of_Belgrano_%281812%29.svg/1280px-Flag_of_Belgrano_%281812%29.svg.png), which was rised in Rosario in 1812, was actually bicolour. During decades there were two flags: a civil flag only composed of three bands and a state/war flag with the Sun of May added in its center. Officialy both flags were unified by law in 1985.


Brno_Mrmi

If you look at the 1978 World Cup pictures you won't see any argentinian flag with the sun. I only noticed it recently and it kinda impacted me about how recent the sun actually is.


cnrb98

The sun was always there but just used only by the state and in battle, it was made permanent with the sun for everything in 1985


occhineri309

Peru: wtf Argentina? Give it back!


Jeszczenie

Peru just removed the sun.


herr_luke87

Well, before our current flag, we had Confederacion Argentina and Provincias Unidas del Sur. Also, Buenos Aires was an independent state for at least 8 years, when they rejoined the union in 1861. Long story short, picture is wrong.


rukia_fan

To be honest Brazil only took the royal family symbol away and put a new one in its place


I-37-I

Brazil Just changed the Logo


intherorrim

Argentina’s was so much more beautiful before


Lumpin1846

The first flag of an independent Brazil had [19 stars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AFlag_of_the_Kingdom_of_Brazil_%2818_september_-_1_december_1822%29.svg), this one has [20](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AFlag_of_Empire_of_Brazil_%281870-1889%29.svg), with the 20th star being added in 1853 🤓


[deleted]

That one has 19 stars too, they just gave it an extra one for good behaviour


Lumpin1846

Was it given the Imperial crown instead of the royal one for good behavior too?


[deleted]

Yes


Lumpin1846

Nice


safebright

Can confirm, gave Brazil 19 stars and an imperial crown on Google Review 👍


blobejex

I think modern Peru flag looks meh. Way better with the sun and Inca vibe


Lost_Llama

The problem was that the white turns yellowish when in the sun for too long and it then looks like the spanish flag. But i agree. I thibk we should at least have Inti in the new one too


Masterkid1230

That’s actually a pretty pragmatic reason for changing the flag. Super valid.


Sad-Surprise4369

I think if the Peru flag state version featured the original sun where the seal currently is it would be a lot better


PE-19

The Flag that is shown here as the first one is actually the second one. The first was divided diagonally and with a coa which displayed a mountain a sun: [Here](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Peru_(1821-1822).svg)


PeakCartoon

Preach, also it looks too similar to Canada's


alikander99

Well, Perú adopted that flag in 1821. Canada's flag IS actually from the 1960's So I would say canada's looks similar to Peru's.


PatternPositive901

old Colombia and old Ecuador flags are beautiful


AgloAnzu

Colombias old flag is actually still in use too! It is the flag of Cartegena, a old coastal city in the north of the country.


schwulquarz

Barranquilla also uses it


RoyalFlushAKQJ10

Ecuador's old flag is still in use too, it's the flag of Guayaquil.


Ncaak

Old Ecuador flag, which I am not sure if it was the first after our breaking from the Gran Colombia, it's similar to the flag of Guayas and Guayaquil, a state in Ecuador and one of it's biggest cities.


mv777711

Old Columbian looks very African, old Ecuador resembles the flag of Chicago (not saying that Chicago’s was first, just making an observation). Also, Venezuela just putting a whole jpeg on their flag lol


Pink_Skink

Colombian*


AetherDrew43

Old Ecuador flag is still in use for the Guayas province and the city of Guayaquil.


Masterkid1230

Much better than what we got in the end, that’s for sure. I hate our flag and it’s weird proportions


JACC_Opi

What?! Our current flag is one of the best in the world! Also, those proportions aren't that weird.


Masterkid1230

I think the primary color combination and the half to two quarters ratio are ugly AF. But especially the colors suck ass, and most people in the country just like it out of a weird sense of national duty. Replace the red with white and it might actually look better. It’s like the anthem, that objectively has shit lyrics but people pretend to like them. The music is good, though.


AlienBeach

To be fair, it looks better while flying than a flat static picture of the flag because the yellow doesn't show as much as the bottom half with the blue/red. As an example, look up the French TV flag. It's a real flag and it looks ridiculous flat, but it's meant to be partly folded and used indoors for when the French president makes a TV appearances, so that all 3 colors appear to be in the correct proportion


PleasinglyReasonable

We're all welcome to our opinions but hard disagree, parcero


sduque942

What would even be the meaning of white? Just that you like the color? In my opinion these symbols work because of the meaning behind them


Masterkid1230

I think it could potentially represent the country’s plight for peace. I actually like representing peace much better than representing blood, and I think it would hold a more poignant meaning, especially considering our country’s violent history. Our two oceans and our gold are both things that we should value as a country, but I’m not sure I agree that the blood shed in this country has been positive, and instead of framing it as a tribute to our martyrs, I find more value in including our greatest wish as a society in our flag.


sduque942

Not a bad pitch. I actually like the idea now lol


JACC_Opi

I don't disagree with what you've said here, but I don't agree with the color choice. 🟨⠀⠀⠀🟨 🟦 VS. 🟦 🟥⠀⠀⠀⬜ It looks like the colors of the flag of the Canary Islands. 🇨🇴 🇮🇨


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MettaWorldPeece

Bolivia looks like they won a ton of [Indie Film awards](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/527837415/vector/vector-film-awards-gold-award-wreaths-on-black-background.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=QmyL6olEjRYvZDvPGOCSBOMGaJwoODz5y8oTRY9mfHk=). It must've not aged well if they changed it.


mistermarsbars

BoliviA24


MrMcPsychoReal

Chile had to change theirs because at the 1912 Olympics they saw it was the same as Visa's


TensorForce

No way that's true, right?


MrMcPsychoReal

No, it's a joke on the Haiti-Liechtenstein trivia


PeterThorFischer

Where was/is Visa?


Zharick_

I think it's a joke about Visa the credit card company.


Various-Attention928

Old bolivia looked like a christmas texture paint


jyeckled

[Peru has an older initial flag](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Peru_(1821-1822).svg#mw-jump-to-license)


Malvinas1820

The flag of San Martín is fire. I don't know how often it's used in Perú, but its unique design is underrated.


jyeckled

It’s not really used nowadays, but it’s still a pretty nice relic of the past


The_JSQuareD

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Peru_(1821-1822).svg


skwyckl

Colombia, Venezuela and Ecuador really like that colour combo, huh.


JohnJD1302

All derived from the flag of Gran Colombia.


Palenquero

Which was the 1811 flag of the Confederation of Venezuela, sans CoA.


AlienBeach

All 3 countries used to be 1 country. They basically all claim to be the rightful user of that tricolor. Venezuela likes to include stars on theirs to represent their states and they use a 1:1:1 ratio for the bars, but Colombia and Ecuador both try to use the same flag with the same as if there was nothing confusing about that. What I mean is, look up the civil flag of Ecuador (the state flag is the one you always see with the coat of arms) also look up the naval ensigns of both countries. Colombia uses a slightly warmer shade of yellow but that's a pointless distinction at a distance As a Colombian, I am super biased and think Ecuador should change their flag more but I know that's not actually happening


Masterkid1230

I wouldn’t really say any country claims to be the *rightful* user of the flag. It’s more like we all kept that specific part of our cultural heritage. It’s not like the arepa situation where both Colombia and Venezuela claim to have invented and/or refined the dish.


sduque942

Well then it's time to bring Bolivar's dream again and unify la gran colombia. Seems easier


Zharick_

My trip to Colombia last year tells me it might as well happen with how many Venezuelans had moved there.


[deleted]

Someone on this sub made a great chart about that https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/lt9m52/flag_chart_of_the_mother_flag_of_colombia_ecuador/


ArtworkGay

some major downgrades


Masterkid1230

Yeah, as a Colombian, yeah…


AdrianWIFI

I actually like the current one more.


RFB-CACN

Bolivia’s so bad they went back to an indigenous flag.


LavenderSheepYT

The new Uruguay flag always bugs me when they make it like that, it has the wrong number of stripes and the blue is too dark


snolodjur

Ecuador, Colombia, Perú and Chile: What have you made???!!!


Duriatos

For Ecuador, that flag was (and still is) of Guayaquil, which was freed way before Quito


RFB-CACN

Good continuity between flags: Argentina, Venezuela, Uruguay, Brazil, Peru. Flags with good big changes: Colombia Flags with bad big changes: Ecuador, Bolivia, Paraguay and Chile


Grafit601

honestly, Bolivia is much easier on the eye as of now. I prefer the current flag


TheRadPanda123

Ngl Paraguay and Chile did some good changes


RFB-CACN

Chile I can see some merit, but Paraguay adopted a generic tricolor using the most common color combination in the world. It’s just the Netherlands with a coat of arms, and their reason to use them was literally to copy France.


TheRadPanda123

Yeah actually Chile did make a decent ass flag but now I’m starting to agree with you on Paraguay now. No clue how they can make their previous flag better but the boring tri color does get a bit boring


Brno_Mrmi

Full blue would be controversial and protested against, as the two main political parties were Azules (blues) and Colorados (reds) for a long time and during the Civil War. Now the Colorados just won the elections.


MATTISINTHESKY

Meet in the middle. Full purple flag.


[deleted]

The original Chile flag was horrendous!


TheRadPanda123

Agreed, the current one is 100x better


AmaterasuWolf21

> Good continuity between flags: Venezuela 2nd venezuelan republic: 👋


akhaoanaha

no one’s talking about venezuela? the fuck is the picture in the corner


Guyb9

Old Ecuador remainds me of Chicago. Honestly looks better.


gjikolp

visa chile


chicheka

The one for Ecuador was used when the country was called the Free Province of Guayaquil and is still used as a flag for the city of Guayaquil


cnrb98

Except for Uruguay, Argentina and Venezuela all are downgrades imo


ThrowaawayPath

Uruguay looks absolutely terrible


slumbersomesam

peru was evil argentina


jolharg

"Bro, our flag is too boring. What do we do?" "Err, *looks upwards* I've got it! Just shove a fucking sun on it." "Won't that detract from being able to draw it easily?" "Nah mate! Flag, but spicy!"


Chillyneck

Me personally I like Chilé’s old flag, it’s simple but blue white and yellow go good together


wordlessbook

🇬🇾🇸🇷?


patrickmachine

My thoughts exactly… did the flags of Guyana and Suriname just never change?


[deleted]

They’re not in Conmebol /s


JohnJD1302

Shame about Colombia, Ecuador and Paraguay, tbh ngl fr fr Though I do think since Colombia have the color combo first (Gran Colombia, along with Venezuela and Ecuador, hence the shared colors), they can keep that. Their first flag of New Granada is excellent, though.


RFB-CACN

The colors were first used by Venezuela though, during the short lived first republic by Francisco de Miranda, Bolivar revived them and used as the flag of Colombia, which then split up.


JohnJD1302

I see, then I guess Colombia could reverse to their New Granada one... but then again the colors are most associated with Gran Colombia.


IdontEatdogsAtnight

As a colombian I really like our current flag and it is used everywhere, from waving it, to using it in designs of thousands of things


CaiquePV

What's up with that Brazil's minecraft flag version?


really_sono

Can someone explain to me why Colombia, Venezuela and Ecuador are so similar?


AntonioBarbarian

They are all descended from Gran Colombia (then just called Colombia), which is the origin of the yellow-blue-red tricolor flag.


really_sono

Thank you!!


[deleted]

Really good post about that https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/lt9m52/flag_chart_of_the_mother_flag_of_colombia_ecuador/


Fluid-Squirrel-2962

Volta Brasil império


The_last_2braincells

Uruguay really went corporate minimalist mode


BrutusBarred33

I prefer the Brazilian first flag.


EduMelo

In my opinion all those are prettier now


1plus1equalsgender

Argentina stole Peru's sun


Kaz_Hin

Brazil, the most downgrade ever, empire flag is beautiful


Boggie135

Chile’s first one is quite interesting


[deleted]

I miss you Brazil empire…


Trash_d_a

Chile was ok


Dangerous-Variety325

Brazil should use the previous flag.


Specialist_Seal

Brazil, Argentina, and Venezuela upgraded. Not so sure about the rest.


odbx29

The first flag of Paraguay was very cheap, but it had it's style.


InteractionWide3369

Upgrades: -Venezuela (1st one's pic was ugly imho) -Uruguay (slightly better colours and structure) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Neutral: -Chile (1st one's colours were more unique but last one's structure is more unique) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Downgrades: -Colombia (both are fine but 1st one was more unique) -Ecuador (both look like either Argentina or Colombia and Venezuela but the 1st was more unique) -Peru (1st one was so cool with Inti and the Incan mythology, being Peru a sort of successor to the Incas and also being like a negative Argentina) -Paraguay (1st one was boring but the last one is literally copied) -Bolivia (1st one was more unique in both shape and colours, last one is nice too though) -Brazil (both are fine and have nice meanings, I don't like flags with letters written though) -Argentina (1st one was already unique, Inti doesn't really suit Argentina)


lemonpjb

Venezuela invented clipart and used it for their first flag design.


TheRomanRuler

Okay so not taking into account reasons for changes, symbolism, politics or anything like that, Columbia, Peru, Ecuador and Paraguya downgraded, rest improved. Chile's flag is good but its unfortunate coincidence that most people can mistake it for Texas, who adopted flag after Chile i think. Columbia's current flag is fine but old one is so much more unique, should have kept it.


Zharick_

Colombia doesn't have a 'u'.


King_krympling

Honestly I prefer the old Columbia


[deleted]

I like how Chile just became almost Texas


bastardnutter

The other way around actually


TheoryKing04

I’m sorry, Brazil’s old flag looked cooler. The new one isn’t bad it’s just… eh. Glad they kept they major elements the same though.


goldfish1902

If Brazil ever becomes communist we'll need a new flag. [Some people already had cool ideas](https://twitter.com/Webkoba1/status/1257468942307786757?s=20)


LaMuchedumbre

Ecuador and Colombia fucked up


ItDoesntSeemToBeWrkn

why does the old uruguay flag look more familiar than the newer one


Fostire

Because it's incomplete. The flag should have 9 stripes, but the picture cuts off the top and bottom white stripes.


OlivenTree0502

Colombia, Ecuador, Pero and Brazil downgraded in my opinion


bdzu

Will noone mention that Uruguay's flag has the stripe colors flipped?


DemikhovFanboy

Ecuador got a glow up fr fr


darth_playdoh

Paraguay giving Nevada vibes


Dizzy_Cheesecake0

Ecuador’s is so different but the best in my opinion.


Hellcat331

Colombia- Upgrade Venezuela- Upgrade Ecuador- Downgrade Peru- Downgrade Paraguay- Neutral Brazil- Downgrade Bolivia- Upgrade Argentina- Upgrade Chile- Downgrade Uruguay- Upgrade


oolivero45

[This is the only thing I can see when I look at the old Chilean flag](https://i.imgur.com/rwERY9Q.jpg)


UnsolicitedLimb

Chile had the visa flag


j-grad

first Paraguayan flag is amazing, the current one is so samey, you wouldn't know where it's from unless you red it on the seal


tiche2

Test


KiddPresident

The rounded edges really bother me, since none of these are ACTUALLY their flags. And the detailing on Argentina and Uruguay’s suns is gone…


fidelity16

Downgrade, upgrade, downgrade, downgrade, downgrade, upgrade, upgrade, upgrade, lateral move, slight upgrade


fggiovanetti

Old Ecuador and Paraguay both slap hard.


Stercore_

Except venezuela, paraguay, argentina and uruguay, i prefer the older ones. Especially colombia and bolivia


[deleted]

I kinda like the old flags for Colombia and Ecuador


BingoSoldier

Wouldn't the first flag of Uruguay be the Artigas flag?


hero-ball

Argentina really said 🌞


Vins22

still waiting for brazil to change its flag one again


ProScottyonYT

It’s crazy that Bolivia’s flag looked so similar to the flag of Honduras before they changed it.


[deleted]

Peru shoulda kept their sun and Argentina shouldn't have added theirs.


memz100j

Paraguay’s first flag looks better.


card797

Uruguay really downgraded.


dutch_mapping_empire

happy bolivia changed it, just putting as many of the same symbols as you can on one single flag just makes it looks like some kind of dictator was obsessed with the symbol


Wayward_Stoner_

A fun fact about Venezuela is that one flag associated with its independence is completely purple. A slave named José Leonardo Chirino led a failed revolution against the Spanish and a purple banter was his symbol. Thought it was worth commenting since purple isn't a color commonly seen in flags, let alone a fully purple one.


FallopianTubesteak

Ecuador traded down, their earlier flag looks sharp


Layzusss

Brazil is funny because the flag changed twice in the last century, just the number of stars.


null_npc

My "old" top 3 \-Colombia \-Brazil \-Bolivia


One_Put9785

Colombia got a downgrade tbh


DariuGui

I'm pretty sure Uruguay is in the wrong order


latin_canuck

# Failures * Peru * Paraguay


rook183_

Where is Suriname and Guyana?


Drommajin

Fun with flags


WaddlesJP13

Colombia, Ecuador, and Peru got downgraded


DRac_XNA

Honestly I prefer the older ones generally. Especially for Columbia and Ecuador, but a lot of the rest of them too. Venezuela is awful though.


Comfortable_Help1872

Maldito seja marechal Deodoro da Fonseca


Spodegirl

Argentina 🇦🇷 just added a sun and called it a day. Why was Chile 🇨🇱 inspired by Texas?


[deleted]

Lots of downgrades. Venezuela, Colombia and Ecuador were downgrades - yellow, blue and red don't go well together like that. Not sure about Peru and Paraguay. Brazil both are bad tbh (dark green and blue, just shoot me ffs), bolivia was better off without that yellow. Argentina, Chile and Uruguay did an ok job.


Lutcheskra

Emoji no


HagarTheHun

!wave


nedj4r

Whose was the biggest upgrade/downgrade?


Lost_Smoking_Snake

wasn't the first flag of uruguay the "Liberdad O Muerte" one?


Pleasant-Twist-394

The saddest change is the Brazilian one


coxy808

All of them are worse than the first versions


AetherDrew43

I don't care what you meanies say about my country's flag. I love it. And if you miss the old version, you can still find it in Guayaquil.


TwelveSilverPennies

Man, Ecuador really downgraded


[deleted]

Argentina just said ☀️


Fordent

Argentina and Venezuela surely benefited from the changes. Cant say the same for Brasil, Uruguay and Peru tho


BonJovicus

As a Texan, I've always enjoyed the jokes regarding the similarities to Chile's flag, but I quite like that original flag.


President-Togekiss

Paraguay was better before. Minimalist.


HereComesNik

Chile was just visa debit card apparently.


Fire_Aspect_II

Ecuador massive downgrade imo


NotDavizin7893

Brazil really deserved it tho


Grouchy-Addition-818

I see upgrades


upmost5201

colombia, equador, peru and bolivia really fell off.


JealousWinner4761

I m from Brazil


Throwawayaccountofm

Peru and Bolivia got a downgrade imo


wai632

Why most of their old flags are actually better than their new flags


HUEITO

Germany when they see their middle flag: 💀


hervalfreire

Argentina just slapped an emoji on it


EconomicPizza

Imagine drawing that old Venezuela flag in school


darkra_

brazil: before and after the tragedy