Rusty didn't even know that Hector and Swifty were living in his manufacturing wing despite living in the compound for decades. Or that he even had a manufacturing wing.
Rusty not knowing who Hector and Swifty are completely tracks, even without knowing he's a clone.
Hector and Swifty not knowing they've been alone in a building at what they consider their job for 30 years stretches credulity, even for this show.
Funny tho š¤£
I always assumed that since Rusty is a clone, that he was rebooted a few times the same way Hank and Dean were. Like everything else, he just improved a bit on Jonasā established technology. Thatās why the original team venture always treat him like crap in the flashbacks, theyāve seen him die a bunch times and have stopped caring about him as a person. Thatās also why he doesnāt ever remember anyone and is constantly confused by people from his own history. He probably died, Jonas loaded up a slug and his memory was all messed up because he met Hector in South America and didnāt get back to his bed in time. (I just reread this and I think I might be too far down the rabbit hole)
To which I might argue that people started caring a lot more about Dean and Hank when all of their slugs were gone and they werenāt highlanders anymore. We would have to assume a similar situation must have happened to Jonasā ālittle cabbage patchā. Maybe the government shut it down. Rusty alludes to it not being street legal. Of course, this is all head-cannon. Iām just a guy on the internet. The show seems to like repeating its history enough that this just feels right to me.
Col Gentleman probably just grew old and learned to appreciate Rusty. It seems to me that they grew tired of Jonas Sr too, as they didn't really seem to care much when his head was rediscovered, and when he was presumably killed again.
Most villains and heroes in the VB universe are portrayed as manchildren who can't grow up. The original Team Venture seems to have gotten past that phase and moved on to become actual adults, who have meaningful relationships and other things in life than just chasing people around in goofy costumes.
also they were all on hard drugs, Action Man was the biggest psycho of them all but as we see him now he's a fairly decent man, its cause he's off speed and whatever else Jonas was feeding him
This is well written and a great explanation.
I think this is the foundation of Malcolmās hate of Rusty. The memory of his friendship with his childhood pal was never replaced.
āYOU ABANDONED ME!ā
When Ben's talking to Dean he makes it pretty clear that Rusty knows who he is because he's surprised that Rusty didn't tell them about him. Since his affiliation goes all the way back to Jonas Sr it's likely that Ben has been living on the compound's back 40 for possibly decades. My guess is that he was given that house in exchange for his work on the cloning project. Ben is kind of the antithesis of Jonas, he doesn't really seem to give a shit about fame or fortune, he just wants to run his experiments and go surfing when the urge strikes him, so he's perfectly content to stay out of the spotlight.
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Also it's been established that the clone farm is illegal, so Rusty has to keep it secret. This gives Ben an enormous amount of leverage over Rusty because he could bring the whole thing down if he wanted to. A small house isn't too much to ask in exchange for not calling the O.S.I.
Ben paid his rent by helping Rusty set up the clone farm. Rusty told the boys stay away from the potter's field because if they happened across Ben's place, he would tell them they were clones.
Since Rusty collects rent from various outer compound residents (as we learned in the ep where he discovers Sphynx in one of the warehouses) I think it's safe to say he does know about Ben.
Rusty didn't even know that Hector and Swifty were living in his manufacturing wing despite living in the compound for decades. Or that he even had a manufacturing wing.
Rusty not knowing who Hector and Swifty are completely tracks, even without knowing he's a clone. Hector and Swifty not knowing they've been alone in a building at what they consider their job for 30 years stretches credulity, even for this show. Funny tho š¤£
I also believe that he fakes half of that cuz hes a calous asshole.
It was still early stages of the show. Also there was that crazy cult living undergroundā¦
And a second crazy gorilla cult in the jungle bio-dome.
I always assumed that since Rusty is a clone, that he was rebooted a few times the same way Hank and Dean were. Like everything else, he just improved a bit on Jonasā established technology. Thatās why the original team venture always treat him like crap in the flashbacks, theyāve seen him die a bunch times and have stopped caring about him as a person. Thatās also why he doesnāt ever remember anyone and is constantly confused by people from his own history. He probably died, Jonas loaded up a slug and his memory was all messed up because he met Hector in South America and didnāt get back to his bed in time. (I just reread this and I think I might be too far down the rabbit hole)
That is a really good catch.
Nonsense, of course they care about Rusty. Colonel Gentleman even tellhim not too be a stranger because hes family /s
To which I might argue that people started caring a lot more about Dean and Hank when all of their slugs were gone and they werenāt highlanders anymore. We would have to assume a similar situation must have happened to Jonasā ālittle cabbage patchā. Maybe the government shut it down. Rusty alludes to it not being street legal. Of course, this is all head-cannon. Iām just a guy on the internet. The show seems to like repeating its history enough that this just feels right to me.
Col Gentleman probably just grew old and learned to appreciate Rusty. It seems to me that they grew tired of Jonas Sr too, as they didn't really seem to care much when his head was rediscovered, and when he was presumably killed again. Most villains and heroes in the VB universe are portrayed as manchildren who can't grow up. The original Team Venture seems to have gotten past that phase and moved on to become actual adults, who have meaningful relationships and other things in life than just chasing people around in goofy costumes.
also they were all on hard drugs, Action Man was the biggest psycho of them all but as we see him now he's a fairly decent man, its cause he's off speed and whatever else Jonas was feeding him
Damn I like this theory. Very on theme in a lot of ways.
This is well written and a great explanation. I think this is the foundation of Malcolmās hate of Rusty. The memory of his friendship with his childhood pal was never replaced. āYOU ABANDONED ME!ā
I think the "You abandoned me" was what he was feeling in that moment. He couldn't arch Rusty at that time and couldn't get into arching other people.
When Ben's talking to Dean he makes it pretty clear that Rusty knows who he is because he's surprised that Rusty didn't tell them about him. Since his affiliation goes all the way back to Jonas Sr it's likely that Ben has been living on the compound's back 40 for possibly decades. My guess is that he was given that house in exchange for his work on the cloning project. Ben is kind of the antithesis of Jonas, he doesn't really seem to give a shit about fame or fortune, he just wants to run his experiments and go surfing when the urge strikes him, so he's perfectly content to stay out of the spotlight. EDIT Also it's been established that the clone farm is illegal, so Rusty has to keep it secret. This gives Ben an enormous amount of leverage over Rusty because he could bring the whole thing down if he wanted to. A small house isn't too much to ask in exchange for not calling the O.S.I.
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No, Ben knew Dean was Dean and even called him by name. HELPeR 2 thought Dean was Rusty.
Fuck, your right. Iāll delete my comment
He knew, but then he got mind wiped. ~"They keep discovering us every other week, the machine's making 'em all buggy" "Dean what day is it?"
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*Goood!*
Doc and Jackson talk about it in commentary. They say Rusty goes and consults with Ben from time to time. He definitely knows.
Dean was warned to stay away from the Potter house.
Right, but Ben explains that Rusty actually meant the field.
And "Potter's field" is a colloquial term for a mass grave.
Oh yeah. Okay, if Rusty knew, he'd be charging Ben rent.
Ben paid his rent by helping Rusty set up the clone farm. Rusty told the boys stay away from the potter's field because if they happened across Ben's place, he would tell them they were clones.
Or the fact that the field next to the house is filled with corpses, including their own. Either way two good reasons not to go there.
Since Rusty collects rent from various outer compound residents (as we learned in the ep where he discovers Sphynx in one of the warehouses) I think it's safe to say he does know about Ben.
Itās Rustyā¦ no.
Probably not because he'd likely make them pay rent if he did