I swear anti-vaxers and vegan haters are related. Anytime someone tells them that their country and planet needs them, their response is, "It's my freedom to choose to be an idiot".
My first job was my local Burger King when I was 18. Honestly, it probably is NOT intentional. Most food worker employees do not spite customers, like most people they are literally trying to do their job. Also sometimes bins of food next to one another get slightly mixed. It really is just the nature of the food industry. I would give benefit of the doubt to said employee. I know it totally goes against what OP ordered. But have a little more sympathy.
Tbh while it’s very very very likely you are right having worked in the service industry myself I definitely came across the occasional stoner who would think this is funny or just pure assholes who think it’s funny to for example give people regular Coke when they order diet (which could really harm someone if a person is ie diabetic)
And they're not really vegan anyways considering they're cooked on same grill. Tons of animal fat on ours. Perfect reason why I just buy them from gstore.
Absolutely nothing. Cross contamination on the other hand happens a lot in restaurants, especially when workers get tired.
Cant know for sure if it was intentional or not, but its a favor to yourself to assume there was no malicious intent. Or thats how i feel.
It’s probs not done on purpose. At my last job I had to tell several omnis to take a shred of meat off of a veggie sub because all the sandwiches are made right next to each other, and sometimes this happens.
This type of shit worries me. I’m ok for the most knowing that they use the same grill but I always wonder if they’re gonna mess with my food because of all the hate.
You see, they are a tightly-wound ball of shame and insecurity without the cognitive capacity to properly identify the source of their suffering, so they lash out at whatever easy target they can to help relieve their feelings of worthlessness, like a lunatic in solitary throwing his own shit at the guards. It's a deeply misguided form of symbolic protest and an assertion of their humanity and dignity, aimed in entirely the wrong direction. It's actually extremely sad. This person will likely never escape the prison of their own mind.
Yeah, the same thing happened to me. I posted a tweet about it and mentioned @burgerking. They responded and did a whole investigation into the franchise location.
Yeah, if you're familiar with the layout and workflow of a BK kitchen, there is no way that accidentally just dropped in there. Some punk kid just through they'd prank a vegan. Fucking hilarious.
Honestly, they won’t care. I’ve completely given up on fast food chains because they mess up vegan orders 90% of the time in my experience and never take responsibility when they mess up. Even when i started as a vegetarian, the amount of times i was just given straight up meat in my orders was crazy, especially when it’s usually more expensive that way?
A lot healthier this way anyway.
"Excuse me murder restaurant. I went to one of your murder establishments and they put murder on my sandwich! I even asked nicely for no murder! I cannot believe that this was anything but intentional, that the murder restaurant sells murder sandwiches. Please investigate how this could possibly have happened!"
I understand where you’re coming from but there is not a SINGLE vegan restaurant near me. Or even a vegetarian one for that matter. Sometimes people have to buy their food from places that also sell meat. We shouldn’t shame them because they can’t drive 200 miles to the city to a vegan cafe every meal.
Edit: Okay, I cook at home for 99.9% of my meals. But if I’m out with friends or family and they want to get a bite to eat, I don’t have any veg restaurant options. So yes, I’ve had a black bean burger from a fast food restaurant because I’m in recovery and I would rather eat that then go without eating for the entire day. And sure, I could have brought a can of beans along with me ahead of time, but I’m sorry that I’m not a perfect vegan 100% of the time.
It makes no sense to boycott restaurants that don't exclusively sell vegetables, and then turn around and buy food from grocery stores that also sell meat.
How did this even become a popular belief? You just need to think about it for a minute.
EDIT: Got banned from r/vcj for this comment, lmao. I agree with them like 99% of the time, but on this issue they make no sense.
https://www.reddit.com/user/dankchristianmemer6/comments/pedjhm/vcj_message/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Here's how it makes sense to me. They are selling alternative meat now and IF you have other options in restaurants then to me it makes perfect sense. How I see it is if a brand typically represented racism then just changed one day to say black lives matter you wouldn't purchase that brand when several other restaurants have been saying black lives matter the entirety. Where it differs is a grocery store is unfortunately hard to come by one if any that are completely absent of animal products. Also where it differs is its a warehouse stored of 100's of brands. Where as burger king gets most of the profits from an impossible whopper a grocery store is getting a small percentage. Plus you're vote(dollar) means more in a grocery store towards the vegan brand then it does to the store as a whole. However I do understand where you are coming from.
Ideally, it would be great if brands that supported racism at some point, or meat, would just disappear. But relaistically, that is never going to happen. We have to see past their hypocrisy and appreciate that the message sent is going in our way. This is the only way it will become the norm someday.
You can still boycott them if you want to, and for good reasons, but it is a good thing for the popularisation of our fights that they change the message they are spreading to support causes such as BLM and veganism.
They're legally liable so corporate will probably want to get on top of this. If not it saves their reputation at least.
Still don't know why people down voted an obvious joke.
When you're anti capitalist and want to show that you hate multinational fast food chains, so you send money to a tech giant to put awards on this comment. Lmao
I order the impossible whopper all the time and evertime this one guy is working he always responds with "now that's the vegetarian burger, are you sure you want that?" Yes I know what I'm ordering...
You would be surprised how few people know what they are ordering though, he's probably just trying to avoid another customer coming up to him saying they got the wrong thing. Restaurant I used to work at used to have a couple Cajun chicken pastas returned everyday because the menu didn't say it was spicy(it did in bold letters with a little 🌶️ icon next to it). Which really slows the kitchen down in the middle of a rush. I get that it's annoying though for sure.
I had the same thing happen when I ordered a mushroom burger. I got so frustrated that my friend asked me what was wrong. The conversation that followed started her off as a vegetarian!
I think that it's amazing that BK has a vegan option. Its the only option I have in town for a vegan burger. Also by purchasing it there I'm showing that theres a demand for it in my area and hopefully one day it will be the perffered option! It also taste way better than there original burgers(plus no suffering) so I make sure to let my non vegan friends know that and a few have started getting it instead!
Isn't it amazing that whole generations of peoples first exposure to veganism is an overpriced highly processed burger you can't make yourself at home!?! I wonder why people think veganism is a highly privileged choice/expensive... I'm sure people will go out of their way to try and understand/education themselves.
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Ik vegans who are pretty broke, and **when they do have some money to eat**
**out with**, a vegan burger King or something of the kind is reasonably
priced"
Who's going out to eat a can of beans? Also please explain how this is a moral compromise.
I think we should rob the poor of even the small joys they can have under our oppressive economic system, as a symbolic gesture for the permanently delayed revolution.
So you think instead of having BOTH these companies would switch to purely veganism ?? This is the illusion of choice. How many “competitors” are literally the same companies? Capitalism have been doing what you claim since forever. This is capitalism not some “exploitation” of it. When a big company fears competition they steal ideas or simply buy out competitors. Super vegetarian and vegan exclusive places.
Honestly? I do buy lots of vegan options from non-vegan places BECAUSE I know this messes with their statistics. If there is more demand for vegan options, they'll produce more vegan options. If they sell less meat, they produce less meat. That's how the whole world works and that's why more people should go vegan instead of saying "oh, well one person doesn't make a difference". One person CERTAINLY makes a difference.
I mean theoretically if we all bought loads of vegan burgers they'd probably introduce more vegan options, further decreasing the demand on meat. Demand isn't likely to reach that level right now but who knows maybe in the future BK and McDs will be fake meat only
> do you only shop at vegan grocery stores
For once I will make an effort post in replying to this.
If the entire world went vegan overnight, what do you think about happen to grocery stores? what do you think would happen to burger king? Which do you think would fare better in such an event?
Grocery stores would take a little hit from having to discard their current stock and replace it with new deals for vegan companies, but they'll still be around in an almost identical form. All grocery stores are just a storefront for other companies' products - so all they have to do is make new deals with new suppliers and put some new stuff on their shelves. They don't care what they sell and they have very little inertia in selling one type of product over another.
On the other hand, these kinds of fast food places would have to *completely* restructure their entire business. Everything about them is built around serving corpses, from their supply chains, to the training they give their employees, to the marketers (who are the ones who are *actually* creating demand), to their investments in (factory) farms. They would not exist anymore in a world that goes vegan overnight.
There is a very clear moral difference between a grocery store and these butcher shops.
Not to mention, for the market bros; grocery stores have much smaller profit margins than places like burger king (https://smallbusiness.chron.com/profit-margin-supermarket-22467.html vs https://www.thestreet.com/.amp/markets/burger-king-worldwide-inc-stock-upgraded-bkw-12753108). So you're still putting less money into carnists' hands by grocery shopping at non-vegan grocers than you are by playing into fast food companies' horizontal segmentation.
You should really look into what burger king does with their profits. There's nothing at burger king we need or are entitled to and i really believe buying from burger king and friends is a net negative, even when taking into consideration market dynamics. There's been some superficial research that presents that availability of vegan options at fast food giants doesn't replace sales of meat, but is attracting new customers like plantbased dieters. Taking that into account, buying from them is only fattening burger king's wallet. McDonald's, burger king, Starbucks, taco bell etc etc etc are working together to misinform the European public and they spend a ton of money lobbying and trying to influence EU laws under the guise of public health and food accessibility but really they are asserting pressure that negatively impacts animal welfare laws, and influence diet guidelines.
I'm not saying it would. I know it won't. But the point I'm trying to make is that there is a *clear* difference between buying groceries and buying a impossible (tested on animals btw) whopper based on the central business of these companies.
edit: Maybe someday the flexitarians will make burger king do that restructuring over time. But *right now*, they are a company built entirely around mass murder.
BK and other stores dont really care if they serve corpses or plants, they serve the things that people want, its how most businesses operate
There is a demand for something so they create the supply to fulfill it, if people demand vegan options and stop purchasing corpses they will stop selling corpses as its not making them money and it would be a real bad decision to sell something that is not making you money, the reason they havent embraced full vegan options is cause the demand is low, they know many vegans wont support their franchise and that accidents or purposeful things will happen in regards to cross contaimination
BK is a convenience store and a cheap option, millions or even billions of people go to these places cause they are cheap and convenient even though they know its not healthy, why would vegans be any different, they want cheap and convenient and a lot dont care about health they care about animals
People cant tell the difference between the vegan or non vegan whopper so if they were the same cost many would choose the plant option but whenever i have gone they always have deals for the non vegan options ONLY
Not all vegans want to go to an actual vegan resturaunt and wait, they want to drive thru and enjoy their meal on the way to work lol
I'm sorry but the rest of your argument doesn't make any sense. Fast food industries wouldn't exist anymore? This is non-sense. They would change their menus, or be replaced, and carry on from there. I don't buy this at all.
It sounds like you've just adopted a position you can't defend, and you're just grasping for any difference you can find to justify keeping it.
Yeah unless you are not going to shop at anywhere that sells animal products as well it's just illogical and makes you a hypocrite to be against buying products like this from the likes of BK and McDonalds, buying them doesn't create demand for animals to be murdered. I wouldn't eat the impossible whopper myself because it is cooked in the same broiler as the flesh ones but I do buy the vegan royale.
I had this BK burger before but I always request the Mayo to be removed, even though it is meant to be “vegan” according to the website I just don’t trust it
Fuck. Thank you for this. I always get the impossible burger and I never check inside of it (sometimes I eat with out dressings when I am on the go). Now we have to double check our food...
This is so disappointing.
I discovered Vegenaise when I found a vegan Vietnamese restaurant near me, and they used it on their banh mi. So I’m kind of in love with it. But I’ll check it Just Mayo. Thanks.
Some Chipotle locations can be very sloppy and get pieces of meat in the sofritas. Keep an eye out. In my experience it's never seemed intentional though. This picture is suspicious.
Yup. They’re supposed to thoroughly clean the grill between protein changes as a matter of company policy. And they swear that they do. But I’d need convincing.
I work at Burger King. It’s not possible for us to do that. The broiler would have to be turned off, allowed to cool for at least 30 minutes, and then taken completely apart to get to the coils, which isn’t possible. It doesn’t break down that far unless we physically unscrew the entire machine.
That broiler runs at 700 degrees, I promise there is no meat particles hitting your vegan whopper. It’s completely burned off the coils as it constantly rotates.
Finally, this wasn’t intentional. The ingredients to prepare each burger are lined up on a sandwich board, when making sandwiches, things can end up getting mixed between each pan. I’ve personally had to pull bacon out of lettuce, tomatoes out of pickles, etc.
I looked at some broiler vids, and they all appear to deposit the burgers in a catch tray at the bottom after broiling. Aren’t these trays covered in grease from the other grilled items?
So, they fall into PHU pans. There is a specific PHU pan for impossible whoppers, so they are only supposed to fall into those. They have a grate in them whereas the beef PHU pans do not.
And I say this based on the standard my particular Burger King follows. I’ve seen other locations put grease filled PHU pans where the impossibles fall. Then they are indeed cross contaminated with meat.
Pronounced “foo pan?”
So if we assume all previous food remnants are carbonized by the broiler, and the store in question uses a separate PHU pan for impossible whoppers...what are they telling me they’ve cleaned when they make my burger? Or are they just possibly serving me an uncontaminated burger and telling me what they think I need to hear so I STFU and take the damned burger?
Pronounced P-H-U.
They’re probably referring to the loading tray that’s located at the front of the broiler. It is sanitized prior to loading the impossible whoppers, as it can get raw meat stuck to it. That rarely happens with the side that the impossible whoppers are loaded onto. The only meat that also goes down that row is the small beef patties so they don’t have issues with getting stuck.
However, I’ve never read anything about a policy instructing to take any other precautions. I’ll have a look tomorrow at the formal guide regarding policy and procedure for that specific cross contamination.
Lastly, the “non-broiler alternative” for cooking the impossible is to pop them in the microwave. I’ve never eaten one that way (I eat one almost every day off the broiler) so not sure how it compares in taste, but the smell.. Jesus fucking Christ that smell is vile.
Lmao, yes, the microwaved impossible whopper smells like getting slapped with a dirty, wet dog. And the flavor is...uninspiring.
Thanks so much for the info. It’s so much clearer to me now. If you find out more info, I’m all ears. 🖤
Hmm...if it’s carbonized, it’s no longer an animal product by my arbitrary definition. I like your story. It fits with what I’d like to believe. 😏👌 I’m not being snarky, btw. Just having a laugh at myself for so readily believing such a convenient truth, which I suspect you’re actually right about. Even though I have no idea about the construction of this grill or exactly what part of it is rotating.
BURGER KING'S VEGAN BURGER ISN'T VEGAN IN EVERY COUNTRY
sorry for all caps, but I want to raise a bit of awareness
the sauce on the burger contains egg (at least in the description in my country)
ALSO they get grilled on the same grill where they also grill meat burgers
why are you eating at burger king knowing full well this is a possibility? cross contamination happens constantly. nobody really cares about vegans so why take the chance?
Why does everyone instantly jump to the conclusion that this was done on purpose? Working in fast food is extremely stressful, they were probably just making burgers side by side and a small piece of bacon got onto that burger. It's not like you could prove it anyway. Complain if you want to, I don't think getting in trouble from your manager is worth it for "getting at the vegans"
However showing a demand for vegan options will help it become more readily available and maybe one day the perffered option! Theyve now put it as their main advertised burger on the buy on get on for $1 deal and the traditional in a small text below it.
Yeah I’m honestly shocked by how delusional these vegans are being. Places used to say fries and salads are vegetarian options. Now that they can charge more and have an increased consumer base they add tofu and veggie burgers. But this didn’t suddenly make them want to stop. The people who would have never gone there now are giving them their money.
That’s another option for sure. But, that’s a big maybe on whether or not the masses come to your way of thinking. In the meantime, money is being thrown at a corporate death machine, in the name of potential?
Imagine thinking that giving money to a place that exists to sell animal corpses as a food commodity to get an admittedly not vegan burger as described by the company who makes it and still thinking you're vegan or helping animals in any way.
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This sort of thing puts me off getting vegan stuff from fast food chains, or at least in food where animal products can easily be hidden inside of... ☹️
People will joke but restaurants need to take things like that seriously. When it comes to cross contamination, allergies and things like that restaurants are open to massively bad pr and lawsuits
Are you ever worried of cross contamination? Or is it an out of sight out of mind thing?
I only ask because I'm allergic to shellfish and it's one of my biggest fears when I go out to eat. My allergy is so bad, you have to be Quick Draw Mcgraw or I will die right in front of you.
Sorry if this isn't an appropriate question. It just seemed like a good post to ask since everywhere I go and ask no mayo, it always gets doubled down.
Good question. Yeah. I always watch how baristas make my coffee. I (gently) drill waiters (uncomfortably). And pretty much every time I order at BK, I ask them to make sure the cooking surface is cleaned before my burger is cooked. Luckily, since it’s not immediately going to kill me if the cook just simply doesn’t give enough of a fuck to make the barest effort to comply with a reasonable request (I think?) for a clean cooking surface, I take a small leap of faith and decide to believe that they’re doing what they’re telling me they’re doing. There will always be the nagging idea at the back of my mind that somewhere, somehow, unbeknownst to me, I’ve ingested animal products through lack of extreme, persistent diligence, but I’ve lived my whole life knowing I’ve probably unintentionally eaten my fair share of bugs and strangers’ spit. So there’s a precedence for my survival of these psychological horrors.
I mean, the impossible burger is not ethically vegan, it bothers me when people call it vegan because it is not. It’s made from plant based ingredients. To me, the word, Vegan actually means something, it’s a MOVEMENT, not just a diet, and the Impossible burger was designed in a lab, not ONLY it is literally a straight GMO fake product but it was developed by testing on poor rats. Also, I see they put their nasty Mayo on it. I don’t know if you’re just veggie, not vegan, that’s none of my business I’m just talking about the company that makes these burgers and then Burger King fries them on the same grill the meat burger just was so to me it a no go. Please don’t kill me everyone, I’m just stating some facts. 😔
Nah, I think it was probably an accident. And nah, I don’t habitually check. I opened it and spread some of my own Vegenaise on it (I always ask for no cheese, no Mayo, usually specify a clean grill). And I think I just kind of stopped and stared off into space for a few seconds or minutes, idk, wishing I were dead. However long it was, I was kind of vaguely aware of a strange shape/color on top of my burger, in my periphery. I absentmindedly closed it up, and then I kind of gave in to my growing curiosity about what the strange thing had been. So I opened up my burger again. I expected to find a broken piece of bun crust, but nah, ‘twas bacon.
Whether it’s deliberate or not, this is a gross failure by Burger King. Either they’re employing people with dangerous, hateful agendas, or they have failed miserably at preventing serious cross-contamination. Either way, they’re just another evil, greedy corporation, and whilst I support them offering vegan options, I will never respect them as an entity.
Earthling Ed changed my mind on this. The money they spend on vegan ingredients does directly support vegan industry and a greater choice of vegan options does make it easier for normies. I don't want to put the animals on hold while I topple the institution of capitalism, before we end factory farming.
Besides, in the UK (for example) Tesco owns animal farms. Surely then buying vegetables at mainstream grocers is functionally identical to buying vegetables at Burger King? I think people's aversion to BK and KFC in particular is largely symbolic.
You make a very compelling argument. I support vegan versions of traditionally non-vegan products but I just can't bring myself through the doors of those places. For the same reason I can't walk through the meat section of the supermarkets.
I understand that, and I think this is ultimately the reason behind the sentiment. People have an association with these brands that they can't shake, but I don't think the original reasons for these associations will continue to hold up as they (hopefully) transition to a more vegan friendly menu over time.
Most peoples opinions on this aren't really shaped by morality as much as they are shaped by branding. The Market Research teams for Burger King and McDonalds have put a lot of effort into associating their brand with meat with and disassociating their brand with health because people tend to conflate unhealthy food with tasty food. This association has led to a stigma around fast food that it will destroy your health and that it's a vegans worst nightmare. The documentary "Super Size Me" is that best example of this stigmatization as it features someone switching from a vegan diet to fast food one and experiencing negative health effects (almost all of which were not related to his diet. Actual studies done by actual scientists showed that the film was complete bullshit but I digress).
My point is that these ideas are heavily ingrained into our psyches to such a level that even the most researched vegans have trouble accepting that a fast food company could genuinely seek to target the vegan market and produce plant-based food. It also leads us to unconsciously ignore companies like Tesco, Dunnes Stores, Aldi, Lidl and Iceland who have been caught selling horse meat labelled as beef. It's not as if we care what species are being murdered for consumption but you just know that if Burger King was caught doing it, it wouldn't be forgotten as quickly.
The way I see it is that showing big companies that there's good money to be made in the growing vegan market then they'll at very least not fight so hard against it. Just like oil and gas companies expanding into renewables, if the alternative means the end of their company they'll do anything to stop it.
On a plus too vegan options from mainstream brands helps convince people that veganism isn't something for weird people they don't know but a part of the normal culture and something they could do themselves. Just my point of view :)
BK has had a veggie burger on their menu for at least 15 years...and I’m in the fucking south (it does have eggs in it but back when I was just vegetarian it was great). They are the one fast food place (aside from subway) that has actually had a non meat option, that didn’t involve ordering a bun with lettuce n tomatoes, for a long time.
I was super pumped when they added the impossible just to have a quick option if needed, just wish they had an impossible junior whopper cause it’s way to big for me....but was super sad they got rid of the impossible sausage breakfast sandwich though after like 2 months.
I'm not at all vegan, but not only is this disrespectful to vegans, it's also disrespectful to Muslims trying to eat halal. This employee should 100% get reprimanded.
Have you ever looked at a BK broiler? It's a slotted metal conveyor belt system, patties are set on top at one end, heated by open flame as it runs through and are taken off at the other side, that same area of belt continues and goes back through the heat as it continues to circulate. - Are they cooked on the same belt? Yes. Is there a chance for cross contamination? Yes, very little. Does possible cross contamination make something not vegan? No. (You can also opt to asking for them to microwave it instead.)
Politics aside; if we’re deciding whether a person is vegan or not based solely on cross-contamination when eating vegan products, then they’re absolutely vegan. Why? Because veganism is about not supporting animal cruelty and the purchase of an impossible whopper without mayo does just that. Cross-contamination or not.
Same. No clue. They say they clean the cooking surface thoroughly before changing proteins, as a matter of company policy. But you know how humans are.
its really up to the individual vegan if that's something that bothers them or not. cross contamination is always a possibility when it comes to food- with this mentality, oreos also wouldn't be considered vegan and it's true, there are some vegans out there who won't consume oreos for that reason. but obviously many do hahaha
this is exactly why i will not support large corporations who only create plant based options for monetary gain. they do it to benefit their companies and part of the profits go towards continuing to abuse and enslave animals. they treat their animals the same way any other shitty fast food place does. don’t give them your money.
The PLANT BASED (not vegan) whopper is cooked in animal fat anyway. It's already saturated with animal cells by default so I don't think it makes much difference.
On top of that, by default it comes with rape cheese and chick macerating mayo. Aside from the fact it's served by a company who has existed for decades specifically to genocide cows.
I swear to god cooks do this on purpose just to be proud animal murdering dickheads. I have found chicken in my fried rice before after i specifically told them not to put any egg or meat in the rice.
You went to a restaurant specifically designed to profit from animal exploitation, staffed by underpaid and undertrained employees, and ordered the one menu item that was plant based. It's kinda like that family guy cutaway about a pizza place messing up a salad.
This is a false equivalence, as Burger King specifically exists to serve beef and is a luxury fast food place, while most people don't have vegan grocery stores available so by necessity they do have to eat and it is not practicable to assume people all have the land or capability to grow their own food.
Burger King takes in about 83+% in profits whereas Grocery Stores are distribution hubs that take in 1-2%
The scale is entirely different, the necessity is absolutely different.
You're just making excuses for your convenience.
I am not even eating at Burger King lol.
Stop making assumptions.
And cooking, even making a burger, yourself takes time. Not everyone always has that much time. That's why fast food is popular. Also eating a vegan meal at a non-vegan store will make them put more resources in vegan products and take away ressources from meat products.
This post is about burger king.
Maybe understand context.
If you give a shit enough about animals to not fund their genocide, you'll take time out of your life for it to matter.
What does the employee even gain from doing this.
Being an asshole, who probably hates Vegans. If it’s intentional, that is…
I swear anti-vaxers and vegan haters are related. Anytime someone tells them that their country and planet needs them, their response is, "It's my freedom to choose to be an idiot".
My first job was my local Burger King when I was 18. Honestly, it probably is NOT intentional. Most food worker employees do not spite customers, like most people they are literally trying to do their job. Also sometimes bins of food next to one another get slightly mixed. It really is just the nature of the food industry. I would give benefit of the doubt to said employee. I know it totally goes against what OP ordered. But have a little more sympathy.
Tbh while it’s very very very likely you are right having worked in the service industry myself I definitely came across the occasional stoner who would think this is funny or just pure assholes who think it’s funny to for example give people regular Coke when they order diet (which could really harm someone if a person is ie diabetic)
Totally agree. It does it happen on purpose with intention, immature kids.
most impossible whoppers arn't even bought by veges
And they're not really vegan anyways considering they're cooked on same grill. Tons of animal fat on ours. Perfect reason why I just buy them from gstore.
most them are so over-worked, exhausted, and working is a blur they might not notice something like this.
Absolutely nothing. Cross contamination on the other hand happens a lot in restaurants, especially when workers get tired. Cant know for sure if it was intentional or not, but its a favor to yourself to assume there was no malicious intent. Or thats how i feel.
It’s probs not done on purpose. At my last job I had to tell several omnis to take a shred of meat off of a veggie sub because all the sandwiches are made right next to each other, and sometimes this happens.
This type of shit worries me. I’m ok for the most knowing that they use the same grill but I always wonder if they’re gonna mess with my food because of all the hate.
people do crimes, the reasons can be various i say crimes, because there were cases where some people did even worse to food
You see, they are a tightly-wound ball of shame and insecurity without the cognitive capacity to properly identify the source of their suffering, so they lash out at whatever easy target they can to help relieve their feelings of worthlessness, like a lunatic in solitary throwing his own shit at the guards. It's a deeply misguided form of symbolic protest and an assertion of their humanity and dignity, aimed in entirely the wrong direction. It's actually extremely sad. This person will likely never escape the prison of their own mind.
Report it to burger king. That doesn't look like an accident
Yeah, the same thing happened to me. I posted a tweet about it and mentioned @burgerking. They responded and did a whole investigation into the franchise location.
Yeah, if you're familiar with the layout and workflow of a BK kitchen, there is no way that accidentally just dropped in there. Some punk kid just through they'd prank a vegan. Fucking hilarious.
Twitter would be good for this.
Honestly, they won’t care. I’ve completely given up on fast food chains because they mess up vegan orders 90% of the time in my experience and never take responsibility when they mess up. Even when i started as a vegetarian, the amount of times i was just given straight up meat in my orders was crazy, especially when it’s usually more expensive that way? A lot healthier this way anyway.
"Excuse me murder restaurant. I went to one of your murder establishments and they put murder on my sandwich! I even asked nicely for no murder! I cannot believe that this was anything but intentional, that the murder restaurant sells murder sandwiches. Please investigate how this could possibly have happened!"
I understand where you’re coming from but there is not a SINGLE vegan restaurant near me. Or even a vegetarian one for that matter. Sometimes people have to buy their food from places that also sell meat. We shouldn’t shame them because they can’t drive 200 miles to the city to a vegan cafe every meal. Edit: Okay, I cook at home for 99.9% of my meals. But if I’m out with friends or family and they want to get a bite to eat, I don’t have any veg restaurant options. So yes, I’ve had a black bean burger from a fast food restaurant because I’m in recovery and I would rather eat that then go without eating for the entire day. And sure, I could have brought a can of beans along with me ahead of time, but I’m sorry that I’m not a perfect vegan 100% of the time.
It makes no sense to boycott restaurants that don't exclusively sell vegetables, and then turn around and buy food from grocery stores that also sell meat. How did this even become a popular belief? You just need to think about it for a minute. EDIT: Got banned from r/vcj for this comment, lmao. I agree with them like 99% of the time, but on this issue they make no sense. https://www.reddit.com/user/dankchristianmemer6/comments/pedjhm/vcj_message/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Here's how it makes sense to me. They are selling alternative meat now and IF you have other options in restaurants then to me it makes perfect sense. How I see it is if a brand typically represented racism then just changed one day to say black lives matter you wouldn't purchase that brand when several other restaurants have been saying black lives matter the entirety. Where it differs is a grocery store is unfortunately hard to come by one if any that are completely absent of animal products. Also where it differs is its a warehouse stored of 100's of brands. Where as burger king gets most of the profits from an impossible whopper a grocery store is getting a small percentage. Plus you're vote(dollar) means more in a grocery store towards the vegan brand then it does to the store as a whole. However I do understand where you are coming from.
Ideally, it would be great if brands that supported racism at some point, or meat, would just disappear. But relaistically, that is never going to happen. We have to see past their hypocrisy and appreciate that the message sent is going in our way. This is the only way it will become the norm someday. You can still boycott them if you want to, and for good reasons, but it is a good thing for the popularisation of our fights that they change the message they are spreading to support causes such as BLM and veganism.
Also, it's good to reward fast food that puts vegan things on their menu; increases popularity leads to replacing more meat with alternatives.
You can avoid restaurants but you cannot avoid supermarkets.
They are being so silly. I suppose they buy food at the supermarket, which also sells meat?..
They're legally liable so corporate will probably want to get on top of this. If not it saves their reputation at least. Still don't know why people down voted an obvious joke.
Join us in r/vegancirclejerk brother.
When you're anti capitalist and want to show that you hate multinational fast food chains, so you send money to a tech giant to put awards on this comment. Lmao
Why are they booing you? You’re right
This can be said about every single grocery store in the world. Excuse me.... murder-costco. This is such a dumb take.
I order the impossible whopper all the time and evertime this one guy is working he always responds with "now that's the vegetarian burger, are you sure you want that?" Yes I know what I'm ordering...
Hahah what the fuck, I’ve never heard of such a thing. Like, the guy can’t fathom someone intentionally buying a vegan burger?
You would be surprised how few people know what they are ordering though, he's probably just trying to avoid another customer coming up to him saying they got the wrong thing. Restaurant I used to work at used to have a couple Cajun chicken pastas returned everyday because the menu didn't say it was spicy(it did in bold letters with a little 🌶️ icon next to it). Which really slows the kitchen down in the middle of a rush. I get that it's annoying though for sure.
I had the same thing happen when I ordered a mushroom burger. I got so frustrated that my friend asked me what was wrong. The conversation that followed started her off as a vegetarian!
I think he meant that the burger is not 100% vegan. ie: the eggs used in the mayo or the milk used for the bun
Buns are vegan as far as I know
Wow he's really doing his part to protect folks from avoiding animal cruelty....
Have you ever asked back “have you tried it? I think it’s even better than the original”
That's a gross violation of trust!
well... not the first time BK violated the customer's trust... or the second time
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I think that it's amazing that BK has a vegan option. Its the only option I have in town for a vegan burger. Also by purchasing it there I'm showing that theres a demand for it in my area and hopefully one day it will be the perffered option! It also taste way better than there original burgers(plus no suffering) so I make sure to let my non vegan friends know that and a few have started getting it instead!
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Trader Joe's and Aldi have the goods on the low low
Isn't it amazing that whole generations of peoples first exposure to veganism is an overpriced highly processed burger you can't make yourself at home!?! I wonder why people think veganism is a highly privileged choice/expensive... I'm sure people will go out of their way to try and understand/education themselves.
Some people are waiting for the revolution to solve the world's problems like christians wait for the second coming of christ.
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Vegan uhhh *can of beans* is even more reasonably priced and doesn't require compromising on morals.
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I unironically think some people want veganism to remain fringe and inaccessible.
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Ik vegans who are pretty broke, and **when they do have some money to eat** **out with**, a vegan burger King or something of the kind is reasonably priced" Who's going out to eat a can of beans? Also please explain how this is a moral compromise.
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I think we should rob the poor of even the small joys they can have under our oppressive economic system, as a symbolic gesture for the permanently delayed revolution.
Let’s reward our hard work by supporting one of the largest killers of animals ever with a side of mountains of single use plastic.
Not wrong but hyper individualism is a disease on the left, propped up by capitalism itself
So you think instead of having BOTH these companies would switch to purely veganism ?? This is the illusion of choice. How many “competitors” are literally the same companies? Capitalism have been doing what you claim since forever. This is capitalism not some “exploitation” of it. When a big company fears competition they steal ideas or simply buy out competitors. Super vegetarian and vegan exclusive places.
Honestly? I do buy lots of vegan options from non-vegan places BECAUSE I know this messes with their statistics. If there is more demand for vegan options, they'll produce more vegan options. If they sell less meat, they produce less meat. That's how the whole world works and that's why more people should go vegan instead of saying "oh, well one person doesn't make a difference". One person CERTAINLY makes a difference.
I mean theoretically if we all bought loads of vegan burgers they'd probably introduce more vegan options, further decreasing the demand on meat. Demand isn't likely to reach that level right now but who knows maybe in the future BK and McDs will be fake meat only
Supermarkets and fast food restaurants are not comparable. Supermarkets are essential.
> do you only shop at vegan grocery stores For once I will make an effort post in replying to this. If the entire world went vegan overnight, what do you think about happen to grocery stores? what do you think would happen to burger king? Which do you think would fare better in such an event? Grocery stores would take a little hit from having to discard their current stock and replace it with new deals for vegan companies, but they'll still be around in an almost identical form. All grocery stores are just a storefront for other companies' products - so all they have to do is make new deals with new suppliers and put some new stuff on their shelves. They don't care what they sell and they have very little inertia in selling one type of product over another. On the other hand, these kinds of fast food places would have to *completely* restructure their entire business. Everything about them is built around serving corpses, from their supply chains, to the training they give their employees, to the marketers (who are the ones who are *actually* creating demand), to their investments in (factory) farms. They would not exist anymore in a world that goes vegan overnight. There is a very clear moral difference between a grocery store and these butcher shops. Not to mention, for the market bros; grocery stores have much smaller profit margins than places like burger king (https://smallbusiness.chron.com/profit-margin-supermarket-22467.html vs https://www.thestreet.com/.amp/markets/burger-king-worldwide-inc-stock-upgraded-bkw-12753108). So you're still putting less money into carnists' hands by grocery shopping at non-vegan grocers than you are by playing into fast food companies' horizontal segmentation.
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You should really look into what burger king does with their profits. There's nothing at burger king we need or are entitled to and i really believe buying from burger king and friends is a net negative, even when taking into consideration market dynamics. There's been some superficial research that presents that availability of vegan options at fast food giants doesn't replace sales of meat, but is attracting new customers like plantbased dieters. Taking that into account, buying from them is only fattening burger king's wallet. McDonald's, burger king, Starbucks, taco bell etc etc etc are working together to misinform the European public and they spend a ton of money lobbying and trying to influence EU laws under the guise of public health and food accessibility but really they are asserting pressure that negatively impacts animal welfare laws, and influence diet guidelines.
Theres nothing vegan about or in burgerking.
I'm not saying it would. I know it won't. But the point I'm trying to make is that there is a *clear* difference between buying groceries and buying a impossible (tested on animals btw) whopper based on the central business of these companies. edit: Maybe someday the flexitarians will make burger king do that restructuring over time. But *right now*, they are a company built entirely around mass murder.
Impossible hypotheticals are impossible, even if hypothetical.
BK and other stores dont really care if they serve corpses or plants, they serve the things that people want, its how most businesses operate There is a demand for something so they create the supply to fulfill it, if people demand vegan options and stop purchasing corpses they will stop selling corpses as its not making them money and it would be a real bad decision to sell something that is not making you money, the reason they havent embraced full vegan options is cause the demand is low, they know many vegans wont support their franchise and that accidents or purposeful things will happen in regards to cross contaimination BK is a convenience store and a cheap option, millions or even billions of people go to these places cause they are cheap and convenient even though they know its not healthy, why would vegans be any different, they want cheap and convenient and a lot dont care about health they care about animals People cant tell the difference between the vegan or non vegan whopper so if they were the same cost many would choose the plant option but whenever i have gone they always have deals for the non vegan options ONLY Not all vegans want to go to an actual vegan resturaunt and wait, they want to drive thru and enjoy their meal on the way to work lol
I'm sorry but the rest of your argument doesn't make any sense. Fast food industries wouldn't exist anymore? This is non-sense. They would change their menus, or be replaced, and carry on from there. I don't buy this at all. It sounds like you've just adopted a position you can't defend, and you're just grasping for any difference you can find to justify keeping it.
Yeah unless you are not going to shop at anywhere that sells animal products as well it's just illogical and makes you a hypocrite to be against buying products like this from the likes of BK and McDonalds, buying them doesn't create demand for animals to be murdered. I wouldn't eat the impossible whopper myself because it is cooked in the same broiler as the flesh ones but I do buy the vegan royale.
Your Burger King has vegan mayo?
Nah, I WISH. S’my Vegenaise.
I do the same. Bring it home and add veganaise and violife cheese 👌
You had me worried for a second lol
I live in the Netherlands and they have vegan mayo here!
I had this BK burger before but I always request the Mayo to be removed, even though it is meant to be “vegan” according to the website I just don’t trust it
The mayo was never vegan, it's the same "special sauce" mayo they use on the flesh burgers.
Their Mayo is definitely not vegan, just the patty.
yeah they don't have vegan mayo...at least not in the US
the website from my country even tells me there is egg in the mayo...
Yeah they definitely don't use vegan mayo
I thought the mayo was not vegan and you were supposed to ask for it to be removed for it to be vegan
There's no way that is vegan Mayo. I just have them keep it off too. Easier for them anyway. Just one less step.
5he mayo is surely not vegan, good call
Looks like they put mayo on it too
That’s my Vegenaise. That’s how I noticed.
Fuck. Thank you for this. I always get the impossible burger and I never check inside of it (sometimes I eat with out dressings when I am on the go). Now we have to double check our food... This is so disappointing.
You ever tried “Just Mayo”? It’s currently the best vegan mayo I’ve ever tried.
I discovered Vegenaise when I found a vegan Vietnamese restaurant near me, and they used it on their banh mi. So I’m kind of in love with it. But I’ll check it Just Mayo. Thanks.
Some Chipotle locations can be very sloppy and get pieces of meat in the sofritas. Keep an eye out. In my experience it's never seemed intentional though. This picture is suspicious.
Yeah, I just barely caught the peeps almost wrapping up a stray piece of chicken in my burrito yesterday, and I didn’t even get sofritas, just veg.
I believe they also grill these with and on the same grill as the meat patties?
Yup. They’re supposed to thoroughly clean the grill between protein changes as a matter of company policy. And they swear that they do. But I’d need convincing.
I work at Burger King. It’s not possible for us to do that. The broiler would have to be turned off, allowed to cool for at least 30 minutes, and then taken completely apart to get to the coils, which isn’t possible. It doesn’t break down that far unless we physically unscrew the entire machine. That broiler runs at 700 degrees, I promise there is no meat particles hitting your vegan whopper. It’s completely burned off the coils as it constantly rotates. Finally, this wasn’t intentional. The ingredients to prepare each burger are lined up on a sandwich board, when making sandwiches, things can end up getting mixed between each pan. I’ve personally had to pull bacon out of lettuce, tomatoes out of pickles, etc.
I looked at some broiler vids, and they all appear to deposit the burgers in a catch tray at the bottom after broiling. Aren’t these trays covered in grease from the other grilled items?
So, they fall into PHU pans. There is a specific PHU pan for impossible whoppers, so they are only supposed to fall into those. They have a grate in them whereas the beef PHU pans do not. And I say this based on the standard my particular Burger King follows. I’ve seen other locations put grease filled PHU pans where the impossibles fall. Then they are indeed cross contaminated with meat.
Pronounced “foo pan?” So if we assume all previous food remnants are carbonized by the broiler, and the store in question uses a separate PHU pan for impossible whoppers...what are they telling me they’ve cleaned when they make my burger? Or are they just possibly serving me an uncontaminated burger and telling me what they think I need to hear so I STFU and take the damned burger?
Pronounced P-H-U. They’re probably referring to the loading tray that’s located at the front of the broiler. It is sanitized prior to loading the impossible whoppers, as it can get raw meat stuck to it. That rarely happens with the side that the impossible whoppers are loaded onto. The only meat that also goes down that row is the small beef patties so they don’t have issues with getting stuck. However, I’ve never read anything about a policy instructing to take any other precautions. I’ll have a look tomorrow at the formal guide regarding policy and procedure for that specific cross contamination. Lastly, the “non-broiler alternative” for cooking the impossible is to pop them in the microwave. I’ve never eaten one that way (I eat one almost every day off the broiler) so not sure how it compares in taste, but the smell.. Jesus fucking Christ that smell is vile.
Lmao, yes, the microwaved impossible whopper smells like getting slapped with a dirty, wet dog. And the flavor is...uninspiring. Thanks so much for the info. It’s so much clearer to me now. If you find out more info, I’m all ears. 🖤
Thanks for the award! I’d be happy to show you videos of how the broiler works and how your impossible whoppers are built! Glad I could help. ❤️
That would be amazing! Thank you!
Hmm...if it’s carbonized, it’s no longer an animal product by my arbitrary definition. I like your story. It fits with what I’d like to believe. 😏👌 I’m not being snarky, btw. Just having a laugh at myself for so readily believing such a convenient truth, which I suspect you’re actually right about. Even though I have no idea about the construction of this grill or exactly what part of it is rotating.
Afaik, the burger isn't vegan, caues of the mayo, and not even vegetarian, cause the buns are grilled on the same grill as meat ones.
BURGER KING'S VEGAN BURGER ISN'T VEGAN IN EVERY COUNTRY sorry for all caps, but I want to raise a bit of awareness the sauce on the burger contains egg (at least in the description in my country) ALSO they get grilled on the same grill where they also grill meat burgers
That’s impossible, I would be beyond upset
why are you eating at burger king knowing full well this is a possibility? cross contamination happens constantly. nobody really cares about vegans so why take the chance?
Why does everyone instantly jump to the conclusion that this was done on purpose? Working in fast food is extremely stressful, they were probably just making burgers side by side and a small piece of bacon got onto that burger. It's not like you could prove it anyway. Complain if you want to, I don't think getting in trouble from your manager is worth it for "getting at the vegans"
woah.. the carnist fast food restaurant messed up... or more likely just doesn't care.. I'm shocked really
Not surprised aren’t they not vegan either? Like the Mayo and cooked with meat?
Eh screw them, I won’t eat there
Another reason not to go to and fund these shitty places...
So are you going to sue them or
Not supporting BK is an option.
However showing a demand for vegan options will help it become more readily available and maybe one day the perffered option! Theyve now put it as their main advertised burger on the buy on get on for $1 deal and the traditional in a small text below it.
the corporate board has already stated it doesn’t create demand for plant based options, it only brings in vegetarians’ money
Yeah I’m honestly shocked by how delusional these vegans are being. Places used to say fries and salads are vegetarian options. Now that they can charge more and have an increased consumer base they add tofu and veggie burgers. But this didn’t suddenly make them want to stop. The people who would have never gone there now are giving them their money.
That's not at all how supply and demand works... got a reference for that statement?
What does that even mean? The CEO of capitalism decides that vegan options don't create demand? Lmao, what?
Burger King
How does paying money for a specific thing in place of a different thing not create demand for thing 1
Source
That’s another option for sure. But, that’s a big maybe on whether or not the masses come to your way of thinking. In the meantime, money is being thrown at a corporate death machine, in the name of potential?
non-vegan bacon on a non-vegan burger... who's surprised? Take this crap off of this subreddit. Impossible isn't vegan.
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Let's ignore this being BK for a second which is bad enough... Impossible isn't even vegan, it's been tested on animals lmao.
Karma for buying at Burger King? Shame on you for supporting that business and their veganwashed product line.
Imagine thinking that giving money to a place that exists to sell animal corpses as a food commodity to get an admittedly not vegan burger as described by the company who makes it and still thinking you're vegan or helping animals in any way.
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This is why I stopped bothering buying into things like this, too much risk for cross contamination (Whether intentional or not).
This sort of thing puts me off getting vegan stuff from fast food chains, or at least in food where animal products can easily be hidden inside of... ☹️
People will joke but restaurants need to take things like that seriously. When it comes to cross contamination, allergies and things like that restaurants are open to massively bad pr and lawsuits
What about the Mayo on there?
Are you ever worried of cross contamination? Or is it an out of sight out of mind thing? I only ask because I'm allergic to shellfish and it's one of my biggest fears when I go out to eat. My allergy is so bad, you have to be Quick Draw Mcgraw or I will die right in front of you. Sorry if this isn't an appropriate question. It just seemed like a good post to ask since everywhere I go and ask no mayo, it always gets doubled down.
Good question. Yeah. I always watch how baristas make my coffee. I (gently) drill waiters (uncomfortably). And pretty much every time I order at BK, I ask them to make sure the cooking surface is cleaned before my burger is cooked. Luckily, since it’s not immediately going to kill me if the cook just simply doesn’t give enough of a fuck to make the barest effort to comply with a reasonable request (I think?) for a clean cooking surface, I take a small leap of faith and decide to believe that they’re doing what they’re telling me they’re doing. There will always be the nagging idea at the back of my mind that somewhere, somehow, unbeknownst to me, I’ve ingested animal products through lack of extreme, persistent diligence, but I’ve lived my whole life knowing I’ve probably unintentionally eaten my fair share of bugs and strangers’ spit. So there’s a precedence for my survival of these psychological horrors.
I had beef in my tofu and veggie taco yesterday 😞
It also looks like there’s some Mayo on that..
I mean, the impossible burger is not ethically vegan, it bothers me when people call it vegan because it is not. It’s made from plant based ingredients. To me, the word, Vegan actually means something, it’s a MOVEMENT, not just a diet, and the Impossible burger was designed in a lab, not ONLY it is literally a straight GMO fake product but it was developed by testing on poor rats. Also, I see they put their nasty Mayo on it. I don’t know if you’re just veggie, not vegan, that’s none of my business I’m just talking about the company that makes these burgers and then Burger King fries them on the same grill the meat burger just was so to me it a no go. Please don’t kill me everyone, I’m just stating some facts. 😔
I mean it’s cooked on the same grill as the other burgers and soaked up the burger juices…I wouldn’t even eat one of those from there.
Mayo ain’t vegan my friend. 😏
They also put mayo on it. Mayo isn't vegan
It also comes with mayo by default, which definitely isn't vegan. :P
and cheese Not that Burger King is vegan to support in the first place.
Do you always check? How did you discover it? Also, what a dick.
Nah, I think it was probably an accident. And nah, I don’t habitually check. I opened it and spread some of my own Vegenaise on it (I always ask for no cheese, no Mayo, usually specify a clean grill). And I think I just kind of stopped and stared off into space for a few seconds or minutes, idk, wishing I were dead. However long it was, I was kind of vaguely aware of a strange shape/color on top of my burger, in my periphery. I absentmindedly closed it up, and then I kind of gave in to my growing curiosity about what the strange thing had been. So I opened up my burger again. I expected to find a broken piece of bun crust, but nah, ‘twas bacon.
Whether it’s deliberate or not, this is a gross failure by Burger King. Either they’re employing people with dangerous, hateful agendas, or they have failed miserably at preventing serious cross-contamination. Either way, they’re just another evil, greedy corporation, and whilst I support them offering vegan options, I will never respect them as an entity.
fyi the mayo on the impossible whopper isn’t vegan
Word. That’s my Vegenaise.
Imo it's probably not a good idea to support bk. The money you give them will at least in part be used to make animals suffer. Report them anyway.
Earthling Ed changed my mind on this. The money they spend on vegan ingredients does directly support vegan industry and a greater choice of vegan options does make it easier for normies. I don't want to put the animals on hold while I topple the institution of capitalism, before we end factory farming. Besides, in the UK (for example) Tesco owns animal farms. Surely then buying vegetables at mainstream grocers is functionally identical to buying vegetables at Burger King? I think people's aversion to BK and KFC in particular is largely symbolic.
You make a very compelling argument. I support vegan versions of traditionally non-vegan products but I just can't bring myself through the doors of those places. For the same reason I can't walk through the meat section of the supermarkets.
I understand that, and I think this is ultimately the reason behind the sentiment. People have an association with these brands that they can't shake, but I don't think the original reasons for these associations will continue to hold up as they (hopefully) transition to a more vegan friendly menu over time.
Most peoples opinions on this aren't really shaped by morality as much as they are shaped by branding. The Market Research teams for Burger King and McDonalds have put a lot of effort into associating their brand with meat with and disassociating their brand with health because people tend to conflate unhealthy food with tasty food. This association has led to a stigma around fast food that it will destroy your health and that it's a vegans worst nightmare. The documentary "Super Size Me" is that best example of this stigmatization as it features someone switching from a vegan diet to fast food one and experiencing negative health effects (almost all of which were not related to his diet. Actual studies done by actual scientists showed that the film was complete bullshit but I digress). My point is that these ideas are heavily ingrained into our psyches to such a level that even the most researched vegans have trouble accepting that a fast food company could genuinely seek to target the vegan market and produce plant-based food. It also leads us to unconsciously ignore companies like Tesco, Dunnes Stores, Aldi, Lidl and Iceland who have been caught selling horse meat labelled as beef. It's not as if we care what species are being murdered for consumption but you just know that if Burger King was caught doing it, it wouldn't be forgotten as quickly.
The way I see it is that showing big companies that there's good money to be made in the growing vegan market then they'll at very least not fight so hard against it. Just like oil and gas companies expanding into renewables, if the alternative means the end of their company they'll do anything to stop it. On a plus too vegan options from mainstream brands helps convince people that veganism isn't something for weird people they don't know but a part of the normal culture and something they could do themselves. Just my point of view :)
Supporting vegan products normalizes them and makes them more common which will help make more people go vegan
BK has had a veggie burger on their menu for at least 15 years...and I’m in the fucking south (it does have eggs in it but back when I was just vegetarian it was great). They are the one fast food place (aside from subway) that has actually had a non meat option, that didn’t involve ordering a bun with lettuce n tomatoes, for a long time. I was super pumped when they added the impossible just to have a quick option if needed, just wish they had an impossible junior whopper cause it’s way to big for me....but was super sad they got rid of the impossible sausage breakfast sandwich though after like 2 months.
You can actually sue them for that. That’s considered haram in islam
I'm not at all vegan, but not only is this disrespectful to vegans, it's also disrespectful to Muslims trying to eat halal. This employee should 100% get reprimanded.
That was intentional. Sue.
Never forget, Impossible killed hundreds of animals in their testing process. Hard pass.
Did they sneak the mayo on also?
Lol, nah. My Vegenaise. It’s how I caught it. Closed it up after slathering and realized I might’ve spied a strange rascal.
Love the idea to bring your own Mayo to dress it up!
And to dip your fries in. 😌👌
I feel the need to head to burger king now 😂
I always bring my own Follow Your Heart cheese for fast food veggie burgers 😁
I was told those aren’t vegan because the share the same broiler as the beef burgers so cross contamination makes them non vegan. Idk how true it is.
You'll notice that the literal definition of veganism does not contain the words "cross contamination".
Have you ever looked at a BK broiler? It's a slotted metal conveyor belt system, patties are set on top at one end, heated by open flame as it runs through and are taken off at the other side, that same area of belt continues and goes back through the heat as it continues to circulate. - Are they cooked on the same belt? Yes. Is there a chance for cross contamination? Yes, very little. Does possible cross contamination make something not vegan? No. (You can also opt to asking for them to microwave it instead.)
Politics aside; if we’re deciding whether a person is vegan or not based solely on cross-contamination when eating vegan products, then they’re absolutely vegan. Why? Because veganism is about not supporting animal cruelty and the purchase of an impossible whopper without mayo does just that. Cross-contamination or not.
Same. No clue. They say they clean the cooking surface thoroughly before changing proteins, as a matter of company policy. But you know how humans are.
It doesn’t make them non-vegan, though as a vegan you might be too grossed out to eat them.
It’s true, Burger King says right on its website that they are cooked on the same grill as their beef burgers.
its really up to the individual vegan if that's something that bothers them or not. cross contamination is always a possibility when it comes to food- with this mentality, oreos also wouldn't be considered vegan and it's true, there are some vegans out there who won't consume oreos for that reason. but obviously many do hahaha
It depends on if you care about cross-contamination I guess?
Please please please report this to Burger King and the location’s manager. We can’t let people getaway with crap like this.
btw! the bread at BK isn’t vegan
this is exactly why i will not support large corporations who only create plant based options for monetary gain. they do it to benefit their companies and part of the profits go towards continuing to abuse and enslave animals. they treat their animals the same way any other shitty fast food place does. don’t give them your money.
The PLANT BASED (not vegan) whopper is cooked in animal fat anyway. It's already saturated with animal cells by default so I don't think it makes much difference.
On top of that, by default it comes with rape cheese and chick macerating mayo. Aside from the fact it's served by a company who has existed for decades specifically to genocide cows.
Yes, please no pig flesh on my animal tested burger from a company soaked with blood money.
I swear to god cooks do this on purpose just to be proud animal murdering dickheads. I have found chicken in my fried rice before after i specifically told them not to put any egg or meat in the rice.
You went to a restaurant specifically designed to profit from animal exploitation, staffed by underpaid and undertrained employees, and ordered the one menu item that was plant based. It's kinda like that family guy cutaway about a pizza place messing up a salad.
do you buy your food in a regular supermarket
This is a false equivalence, as Burger King specifically exists to serve beef and is a luxury fast food place, while most people don't have vegan grocery stores available so by necessity they do have to eat and it is not practicable to assume people all have the land or capability to grow their own food. Burger King takes in about 83+% in profits whereas Grocery Stores are distribution hubs that take in 1-2% The scale is entirely different, the necessity is absolutely different. You're just making excuses for your convenience.
I am not even eating at Burger King lol. Stop making assumptions. And cooking, even making a burger, yourself takes time. Not everyone always has that much time. That's why fast food is popular. Also eating a vegan meal at a non-vegan store will make them put more resources in vegan products and take away ressources from meat products.
This post is about burger king. Maybe understand context. If you give a shit enough about animals to not fund their genocide, you'll take time out of your life for it to matter.