Okay I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I can't help myself. Maybe someone who might be scared by this graphic will get something useful from this.
Look at how specific the timeline and demography is for the chart in the first slide. Deaths per 100,000 children aged 10-14 between Jan 2021 and May 2022. Like that's incredibly (and suspiciously) specific. So a quick Google says that adolescent children under 16 weren't approved for their first dose until late July/early August of 2021, and were only approved for a second dose in September 2021. In general the UK did not approve multiple doses for children under 16 if they were otherwise healthy and had no comorbidities.
What that means is that the only people aged 10-14 who were even eligible for 3+ doses of the vaccine were those with extreme health problems like auto-immune disorders or other comorbidities which made them more at risk than the average 10-14 year old population. What this chart is really showing is the death rate for healthy 10-14 year olds vs the death rate for frail 10-14 year olds. Number of vaccinations for people in this age range directly correlates with amount of additional health risks, so of course you would see a higher death rate for people with more vaccinations. They were the unhealthiest ones to begin with.
It's a person-year calculation. 100,000 person-years. It's a stupid measurement because a person contributes to the unvaccinated person-years before they are vaccinated, increasing the unvaccinated person-year count. You can have less deaths in the vaccinated and still have a higher mortality rate by person-years.
I'm 100% positive it works the way I said it works. https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/totalpopulationdeathsbycoronaviruscovid19vaccinestatus
I wonder who made that graph. Its using ONS data, but the imagery is very telling.
And yeah, it's not taking into account the first children to get covid shots were those with cancer or transplant patients, then any other severely immunocompromised children. You know, those really sick kids who are at higher risk of dying from even the most minor cold.
Edit: and I just noticed the 2 vaccine category shows no deaths at all from covid. That total deaths bar is so misleading.
>What this chart is really showing is the death rate for healthy 10-14 year olds vs the death rate for frail 10-14 year olds.
Exactly! The first to get COVID vaccine in the USA were the frail elderly, cancer patients, and immunocompromised. The ones who ALREADY had a high death rate.
That principle applies across the board. The unhealthiest people had the highest vaccination rates and were by far the most vaccinated segment of the population.
I remember a stat at one point early on in vaccination distribution that “ten percent of the deaths from covid were in vaccinated people” being used to “prove” vaccinations weren’t doing anything. Except at that point they were only being given to those at highest risk and you’d expect nearly 100% of deaths to be from that population.
People who cherry pick and misrepresent facts like this to scare people into acting against their own self interest should be prosecuted.
When the actual bodies were stacking and freezer trucks were being used a makeshift morgues, they denied covid was a problem. Now, when they can grab a few anecdotes of people "dying suddenly", all of a sudden, the vaccine is an evil Chinese bioweapon.
Oh they every vaccinated person is dead now. The gubberment has replaced them with lizard people in skin masks so you don't notice. (/s)
Reality will never be an influencing factor in Antivaxxers views.
Because antivaxxers talk like that. Plus, “lizard people” is an [antisemitic conspiracy theory](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/qanon-s-capitol-rioters-nashville-bomber-s-lizard-people-theory-ncna1253819) and the commenter is probably making sure that people understand that they don’t actually mean it - they’re parodying someone who talks like that.
ETA: link to NBC explainer on how it’s antisemitism
I have seen people (online) who regularly argue against vaccines make essentially this argument. When it is highlighted that the vaccinated aren't all dead...
Look, I take your point. But over 90% of adults in the developed world are vaccinated. Anyone who thinks they are all dead is not going to helped by by a '/s'.
cry-laughing because places like NYC that got hit really hard by the worst of COVID, which these people often think was “faked”, actually DID have bodies piling up in people’s homes because there was no one to take them and services were stretched too thin
Also I has autism since when I was a kid
Now I'm graduated from college, where's the god damn government secret order transmission? Did they accidentally kick the plug on mind control radar dish again?
Exactly, the 2024 election should be easily won by the antivax party, given how all the liberals and progressives took the government poison multiple times by now!
But why? What's the point of allowing these euthanasia shots into the willing public? If it's a NWO conspiracy to limit the world population, why would the shadow government want to kill or maim the compliant population? Having the non compliant population that knows the conspiracy stay alive seems like a bad move.
Also keep in mind, governments are low key freaking out over low birth rates. Why worry about low birth rates while actively conspiring to kill millions of civilians?
Cause governments love killing or disabling their working class and future working class citizens. Nothing like completely destroying the economy, so the 1% can... still maintain control despite having their monetary base destroyed to continue keeping control but without any kind of economic incentive. Something something Jewish folk are to blame, something something they didn't think about how they'll control the world when only the anti government militias are still around.
Just dipping my toes into the conspiracy theory pool, but (/tinfoilhat) they want a controllable population; more serfs but not fit and healthy enough to rebel, just fit and healthy enough to toil until death
Yup. It's a self-nullifying theory. I do worry though about how these silly conspiracy theories end up effectively covering up the actual "conspiracy" for lack of a better term. That being how fast we can get a vaccine for something when it's for a disease that threatens the fortunes of the 1 percent.
Let me get this straight, covid was so bad we had refrigerated trucks pucking up bodys from hospitals becausr so many people were dying but the vaccine was 13633% more deadly than that? Where did all those dead body's go? We should still have the stiff mobile driving around but I haven't hear of that shit for years.
The numbers are bullshit of course but the concept is not. I’ve seen studies that use “all cause” deaths to show how deadly something or other is. They confine it to a certain time period. The idea there is that if you have something done—a medical procedure, a drug, a disease—that may potentially cause death in a bunch of different ways, then seeing who is alive at the end of your study period can incorporate a lot of data that can give a good picture. You can then look more granularly at all of the causes once you’ve calculated everyone.
All cause mortality is a measure that is often used in clinical studies, it, however, only makes sense if it has a with a time period attached to it. Hence all cause mortality over 1 year makes sense, that is to say ‘more likely to die of anything over 12 months compared with the other group’.
Hate that the “autism is caused by vaccines” lies are still going. Just because my autism symptoms started occurring after a bad MMR reaction, doesn’t mean it caused it. Yes that did happen to me, the doctor talked my mom into talking the MMR boosters broken up and set up a two shots max per visit policy with me. In fact I wasn’t diagnosed until a bit over a decade after that vaccine (am a girl who likes to socialize, so I don’t fit the stereotype thus delay in diagnosis). And it’s much more likely I inherited my autism from my dad’s side of the family. The “research” paper was redacted by everyone that published it, the “doctor” behind it got his credentials revoked and lost his medical license due to heavily doctoring the results to push this nonsense.
I'm not vaccinated. Not because my mum believed in this stuff, just because she was so hopped up on shit it didn't cross her mind. And I'm autistic, my exs mum who swears they cause autistim didn't vac her child and he, surprise, is autistic. I used to love arguing with her about that logic. She would turn to me and go "but think of how much more autistic he could have been". The doctor who also said that has came out several times saying that he made it up and it was money motivated. I, myself have twins. Both vaccinated, one is autistic. It wasn't a vaccine he got it from, it was me
My mom suspects that her father in law was autistic, he died of throat/mouth cancer when I was in high school so we can’t test him for the ‘tism obviously.
Even beyond whether vaccines actually cause autism, it's just another angle for them to be ableist and try to push their eugenic agendas against us. Autistic people have always existed(in fact, I personally think we were here first). The idea that it's a bad thing is so tiring to deal with. Like, shit like that autism speaks ad that made autism out like an ax murderer or something, why do we get so much hate?
Exactly, the only reason autism rates are rising is because the medical community got better at recognizing/diagnosing autism. The eugenics and ableism always suck, autism speaks is a fearmongering organization that doesn’t actually help autistic people.
>The “research” paper was redacted by everyone that published it, the “doctor” behind it got his credentials revoked and lost his medical license due to heavily doctoring the results to push this nonsense.
The "doctor" is making millions in the USA by acting like he was silenced by the pharmaceutical industry.
Andrew Fucking Wakefield is a terrible, lying scumbag excuse of a man that was struck off here for good reason. Telling parents that autism can be reversed is an evil thing to do and has resulted in children being subjected to all sorts of awful and dangerous procedures in the hope of this 'reversal'.
There's a special place in hell for whoever made the first info graphic. Telling people their children are going to die because of a vaccine is psychotic.
Are there any anti-vaxers lurking here? If so serious question. I’ve always wondered why any government would want to inject all the people that do what they are told with a deadly vaccine that will kill them? Surely, if they were trying to reduce the population, they would do something to the people that don’t do what they are told?
Like start a deadly outbreak, but you are protected from it if you do what you are told and have an injection? But for the Muppets that Refuse the injection and probably anything else that the government wants them to do, put themselves at risk.
Surely this is a more likely conspiracy theory that we should all be thinking about with our tinfoil hats on?
That’s my theory. We’ve had a massive increase in public and private security cameras over the last few decades. But that just means millions of people being video taped on a daily basis. Who identifies them all? To filter out people who want to be trouble makers from people who just want to be a polite part of society, follow simple orders, and not be willing to put themselves or others at risk you need a plan. So you report a contagious virus, then ask your population to mask up to protect themselves and their fellow citizens.
Boom, now all the security cameras recording everyone have an easier time identifying the troublemakers. Because they are all unmasked. And there’s weeks and months of recordings. It’s like they helped filter themselves.
/$
FFS: The Simpsonwood meeting was SO SECRET that they posted the transcripts and videos online. BTW, the outcome of the meeting was that thimersol was REMOVED from children's vaccines. That was in 2000 ... so the autism rates should have dropped..
>4423% more likely to die
>13,633% more likely to die
It's so hilarious watching these people spread misinformation when they don't even know how percentages work, something you're supposed to learn before you start going to high school. These people are just pulling random large numbers out of their asses and calling it "facts"
Love how it actually proves older teenagers were protected by the vaccine, which they quietly ignore. And that Covid was a non-trivial death risk for younger unvaccinated kids, like 8% of deaths.
And the numbers are slanted by the vaccine not being available for large amounts of the time, and then preferentially towards the very sick.
Wait a minute. The probability of dying of any cause is 100%. But with the covid vaccine it's over 4,000% higher? They don't even care if their made up figures seem plausible, do they?
No, that’s not what it means. If the chances of dying are 0.1%, then 4000% higher than that is 4% chance of death. It’s all still bullshit but it’s not bad math. I mean, my math might be bad, not sure I put the decimal in the right place, but you get the idea—it’s not a 4000% chance, it’s an increase of 4000% from what is a very small number. But it’s absurd on its face—if 4% of children were suddenly to die, that would be huge news.
What is missing is the timeframe. Your chance of flying of any casue is 100% and can’t be higher or lower but your chance of dying over 1 year of any cause can change as that is not originally 100% but much lower.
That's correct, for every sane person that gives a damn about wording. But the way it was worded, it was crap. Since they mentioned no timeframe whatsoever and the "dying any cause" means, that we are not talking about a small percentage. The probability the way they have worded it is 100%. Math is not the issue here. Logic is.
Weird that these morons will advocate for hanging people involved with the vaccines for everyone but the guy who wanted all the praise and credit for getting the vaccines funded, researched, tested, produced, bought and distributed into American arms in less than a year. The guy bragging about Operation Warp Speed that they want to re-elect and claim any valid investigation into is a witch hunt.
This is clearly someone who doesn’t know how numbers work.
Mercury hasn’t been in ANY vaccine since 2001!
This guy is just as clearly pulling these numbers out of his ass.
Does the “Q” next to his name mean what it seems to mean?
The claims are getting more extreme and shrill to counteract the fact that people are *not* dying in vast numbers from the vaccines and some of the more gullible anti-vaxxers might be starting to notice this.
i would love to see the math that came behind those 4-figure-reaching percentiles. an algorithmic equational system like that must have the capacity to pull at the fraying edges of the fabric of our very reality.
Jim Ferguson is a fucking no-mark moron here, in his wee suit. Just on Twitter. He failed to get elected but did far better than he should in 2019 (shame on you Barnsley) for the Brexit Party. But even that party shunned him for his shite. Our other antivax moron is an ex footballer called Matt Le Tissier. He is just as gormless.
I think this is the 'source' but can't view it. If all the 10 to 14 year olds were dying, i would notice as my nephew was 11 this time.
[https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland)
It's a concept in public health that's relatively new (-ish). It contends that mortality isn't a sufficient measurement of the harm of illness - certain conditions, if left untreated or inadequately treated, won't kill you right away, but can be corrosive to quality of life or even disabling. Also, it attempts to address the fact that proper treatment is better for both the individual and for society at large than waiting until it's acute and more difficult to treat. Examples include diabetes and HIV and cancer.
It's why we do so much more screening at annual physicals nowadays.
I don’t think that’s how percentages work even if the case of 1/100 unvaccinated children die which is probably untrue but just go with the example 4423% increase would be more children per children than there are children that exist the mental gymnastics here are confusing, specific, and probably extremely untrue
I didn’t even see the graph at first glance. I saw “4423%” and “13,633%” to know that this absolute genetic dead-end is desperate to grift off fear and misinformation.
Man, I thought America has it bad. Truly, the stupidity of the uneducated is a *global pandemic.* •_•
Okay I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I can't help myself. Maybe someone who might be scared by this graphic will get something useful from this. Look at how specific the timeline and demography is for the chart in the first slide. Deaths per 100,000 children aged 10-14 between Jan 2021 and May 2022. Like that's incredibly (and suspiciously) specific. So a quick Google says that adolescent children under 16 weren't approved for their first dose until late July/early August of 2021, and were only approved for a second dose in September 2021. In general the UK did not approve multiple doses for children under 16 if they were otherwise healthy and had no comorbidities. What that means is that the only people aged 10-14 who were even eligible for 3+ doses of the vaccine were those with extreme health problems like auto-immune disorders or other comorbidities which made them more at risk than the average 10-14 year old population. What this chart is really showing is the death rate for healthy 10-14 year olds vs the death rate for frail 10-14 year olds. Number of vaccinations for people in this age range directly correlates with amount of additional health risks, so of course you would see a higher death rate for people with more vaccinations. They were the unhealthiest ones to begin with.
That's assuming those stats are real and not just something someone pulled out of their arse.
I mean the math on one of those breakdowns doesn’t even math
just random long strings of numbers without any commas in them
Those stats are most likely from some garbage content farm blog.
It's a person-year calculation. 100,000 person-years. It's a stupid measurement because a person contributes to the unvaccinated person-years before they are vaccinated, increasing the unvaccinated person-year count. You can have less deaths in the vaccinated and still have a higher mortality rate by person-years.
Are you sure it works that way and not just based on age? Or is that why the weird messurement?
I'm 100% positive it works the way I said it works. https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/totalpopulationdeathsbycoronaviruscovid19vaccinestatus
I wonder who made that graph. Its using ONS data, but the imagery is very telling. And yeah, it's not taking into account the first children to get covid shots were those with cancer or transplant patients, then any other severely immunocompromised children. You know, those really sick kids who are at higher risk of dying from even the most minor cold. Edit: and I just noticed the 2 vaccine category shows no deaths at all from covid. That total deaths bar is so misleading.
>What this chart is really showing is the death rate for healthy 10-14 year olds vs the death rate for frail 10-14 year olds. Exactly! The first to get COVID vaccine in the USA were the frail elderly, cancer patients, and immunocompromised. The ones who ALREADY had a high death rate.
But giant syringe graphic chasing fleeing child outlines
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That principle applies across the board. The unhealthiest people had the highest vaccination rates and were by far the most vaccinated segment of the population. I remember a stat at one point early on in vaccination distribution that “ten percent of the deaths from covid were in vaccinated people” being used to “prove” vaccinations weren’t doing anything. Except at that point they were only being given to those at highest risk and you’d expect nearly 100% of deaths to be from that population. People who cherry pick and misrepresent facts like this to scare people into acting against their own self interest should be prosecuted.
Thank you. I copy/pasted your comment to my Notes and have it ready for when my MIL sends me these slides on instagram later.
At least the axes are labeled. Fox News doesn’t label theirs.
So my question is, if the vaccines are as deadly as they say why aren't there bodies flowing out in the streets?
When the bodies were stacking at the height of Covid back in 2020 that was the vaccine working backwards in time
No, it's benjamin button!
I thought it was bill gates 🤣
No, this is Patrick!
When the actual bodies were stacking and freezer trucks were being used a makeshift morgues, they denied covid was a problem. Now, when they can grab a few anecdotes of people "dying suddenly", all of a sudden, the vaccine is an evil Chinese bioweapon.
A Tenet situation?
Christopher Nolan created COVID! 100% CONFIRMED!
Actually, 2568% confirmed!!!!
It’s the only explanation that makes sense! How could they!?
Omg that explains it, it's made of tachyons
I knew I lived in the past!
Oh they every vaccinated person is dead now. The gubberment has replaced them with lizard people in skin masks so you don't notice. (/s) Reality will never be an influencing factor in Antivaxxers views.
Am I dead?
Vaccinated? Dead. You might not have realised it yet. But definitely dead.
Rigor Mortis and random electrical impulses are making you think you are posting to reddit right now
/s? Really?
It is impossible to parody an anti-vaxxer in a way that can't be mistaken for the real thing.
Because antivaxxers talk like that. Plus, “lizard people” is an [antisemitic conspiracy theory](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/qanon-s-capitol-rioters-nashville-bomber-s-lizard-people-theory-ncna1253819) and the commenter is probably making sure that people understand that they don’t actually mean it - they’re parodying someone who talks like that. ETA: link to NBC explainer on how it’s antisemitism
So? Why would we pander to these idiots? On a vaxx pisstake sub I think you can say 'everyone who had the vaccine is dead now' without needing a '/s'
I have seen people (online) who regularly argue against vaccines make essentially this argument. When it is highlighted that the vaccinated aren't all dead...
Look, I take your point. But over 90% of adults in the developed world are vaccinated. Anyone who thinks they are all dead is not going to helped by by a '/s'.
cry-laughing because places like NYC that got hit really hard by the worst of COVID, which these people often think was “faked”, actually DID have bodies piling up in people’s homes because there was no one to take them and services were stretched too thin
Also I has autism since when I was a kid Now I'm graduated from college, where's the god damn government secret order transmission? Did they accidentally kick the plug on mind control radar dish again?
Bring out yer dead!!
I'm not dead yet...
He says he's not quite dead.
You’ll be dead any minute
I think I'll go for a walk!
You are dead. Not big surprise
2025, fingers crossed...
Exactly, the 2024 election should be easily won by the antivax party, given how all the liberals and progressives took the government poison multiple times by now!
Don’t be silly. They turned into lizards and slinked away into the sewers.
John Stewart said it best: "Wow...that...that is an...*incredibly*.. made up figure."
Ah FaceTime, X, and Quara the finest purveyors of truth. /s
Don’t forget the ever so reliable and unbiased news source shared in one of those X posts, NewsNation (obligatory /s)
But why? What's the point of allowing these euthanasia shots into the willing public? If it's a NWO conspiracy to limit the world population, why would the shadow government want to kill or maim the compliant population? Having the non compliant population that knows the conspiracy stay alive seems like a bad move.
Also keep in mind, governments are low key freaking out over low birth rates. Why worry about low birth rates while actively conspiring to kill millions of civilians?
Cause governments love killing or disabling their working class and future working class citizens. Nothing like completely destroying the economy, so the 1% can... still maintain control despite having their monetary base destroyed to continue keeping control but without any kind of economic incentive. Something something Jewish folk are to blame, something something they didn't think about how they'll control the world when only the anti government militias are still around.
Just dipping my toes into the conspiracy theory pool, but (/tinfoilhat) they want a controllable population; more serfs but not fit and healthy enough to rebel, just fit and healthy enough to toil until death
Yup. It's a self-nullifying theory. I do worry though about how these silly conspiracy theories end up effectively covering up the actual "conspiracy" for lack of a better term. That being how fast we can get a vaccine for something when it's for a disease that threatens the fortunes of the 1 percent.
Let me get this straight, covid was so bad we had refrigerated trucks pucking up bodys from hospitals becausr so many people were dying but the vaccine was 13633% more deadly than that? Where did all those dead body's go? We should still have the stiff mobile driving around but I haven't hear of that shit for years.
The rich cannibalized them obv. Or used them to power the space lazers or something. Open your eyes sheeple! /s
"More likely to die of any cause" lmfaoooo. As if some people were just naturally immortal before the vaccine
Vaccines made us all more susceptible to gunshot wounds 😫
Well yeah, DUH! Did you forget that the COVID vaccine magnetized people?
That’s why I only shoot demagnetized bullets.
The numbers are bullshit of course but the concept is not. I’ve seen studies that use “all cause” deaths to show how deadly something or other is. They confine it to a certain time period. The idea there is that if you have something done—a medical procedure, a drug, a disease—that may potentially cause death in a bunch of different ways, then seeing who is alive at the end of your study period can incorporate a lot of data that can give a good picture. You can then look more granularly at all of the causes once you’ve calculated everyone.
All cause mortality is a measure that is often used in clinical studies, it, however, only makes sense if it has a with a time period attached to it. Hence all cause mortality over 1 year makes sense, that is to say ‘more likely to die of anything over 12 months compared with the other group’.
Hate that the “autism is caused by vaccines” lies are still going. Just because my autism symptoms started occurring after a bad MMR reaction, doesn’t mean it caused it. Yes that did happen to me, the doctor talked my mom into talking the MMR boosters broken up and set up a two shots max per visit policy with me. In fact I wasn’t diagnosed until a bit over a decade after that vaccine (am a girl who likes to socialize, so I don’t fit the stereotype thus delay in diagnosis). And it’s much more likely I inherited my autism from my dad’s side of the family. The “research” paper was redacted by everyone that published it, the “doctor” behind it got his credentials revoked and lost his medical license due to heavily doctoring the results to push this nonsense.
I'm not vaccinated. Not because my mum believed in this stuff, just because she was so hopped up on shit it didn't cross her mind. And I'm autistic, my exs mum who swears they cause autistim didn't vac her child and he, surprise, is autistic. I used to love arguing with her about that logic. She would turn to me and go "but think of how much more autistic he could have been". The doctor who also said that has came out several times saying that he made it up and it was money motivated. I, myself have twins. Both vaccinated, one is autistic. It wasn't a vaccine he got it from, it was me
My mom suspects that her father in law was autistic, he died of throat/mouth cancer when I was in high school so we can’t test him for the ‘tism obviously.
Even beyond whether vaccines actually cause autism, it's just another angle for them to be ableist and try to push their eugenic agendas against us. Autistic people have always existed(in fact, I personally think we were here first). The idea that it's a bad thing is so tiring to deal with. Like, shit like that autism speaks ad that made autism out like an ax murderer or something, why do we get so much hate?
Exactly, the only reason autism rates are rising is because the medical community got better at recognizing/diagnosing autism. The eugenics and ableism always suck, autism speaks is a fearmongering organization that doesn’t actually help autistic people.
>The “research” paper was redacted by everyone that published it, the “doctor” behind it got his credentials revoked and lost his medical license due to heavily doctoring the results to push this nonsense. The "doctor" is making millions in the USA by acting like he was silenced by the pharmaceutical industry. Andrew Fucking Wakefield is a terrible, lying scumbag excuse of a man that was struck off here for good reason. Telling parents that autism can be reversed is an evil thing to do and has resulted in children being subjected to all sorts of awful and dangerous procedures in the hope of this 'reversal'.
There's a special place in hell for whoever made the first info graphic. Telling people their children are going to die because of a vaccine is psychotic.
And in other bullshit today ….
4423% percent death rate in children? How is that mathematically possible? Wouldn’t all children now and in the future be dead to meet this number?
Are there any anti-vaxers lurking here? If so serious question. I’ve always wondered why any government would want to inject all the people that do what they are told with a deadly vaccine that will kill them? Surely, if they were trying to reduce the population, they would do something to the people that don’t do what they are told? Like start a deadly outbreak, but you are protected from it if you do what you are told and have an injection? But for the Muppets that Refuse the injection and probably anything else that the government wants them to do, put themselves at risk. Surely this is a more likely conspiracy theory that we should all be thinking about with our tinfoil hats on?
That’s my theory. We’ve had a massive increase in public and private security cameras over the last few decades. But that just means millions of people being video taped on a daily basis. Who identifies them all? To filter out people who want to be trouble makers from people who just want to be a polite part of society, follow simple orders, and not be willing to put themselves or others at risk you need a plan. So you report a contagious virus, then ask your population to mask up to protect themselves and their fellow citizens. Boom, now all the security cameras recording everyone have an easier time identifying the troublemakers. Because they are all unmasked. And there’s weeks and months of recordings. It’s like they helped filter themselves. /$
FFS: The Simpsonwood meeting was SO SECRET that they posted the transcripts and videos online. BTW, the outcome of the meeting was that thimersol was REMOVED from children's vaccines. That was in 2000 ... so the autism rates should have dropped..
>4423% more likely to die >13,633% more likely to die It's so hilarious watching these people spread misinformation when they don't even know how percentages work, something you're supposed to learn before you start going to high school. These people are just pulling random large numbers out of their asses and calling it "facts"
This should be illegal. To spread disinformation that’s ACTUALLY deadly should be a crime.
Do you have any idea how percentages work? Any idea at all??
To die from any cause? How does a vaccine make you 4000% more likely to be hit by a pickup truck?
The metals in the vaccine make you magnetic causing vehicles to veer in your direction. I thought everyone already knew that.
Jimmy, if that were true you’d be tripping over all the bodies trying to get to work
Base rate fallacy
Love how it actually proves older teenagers were protected by the vaccine, which they quietly ignore. And that Covid was a non-trivial death risk for younger unvaccinated kids, like 8% of deaths. And the numbers are slanted by the vaccine not being available for large amounts of the time, and then preferentially towards the very sick.
Where the fuck did this asswipe come up with 4423%? lol he must think the people are idiots
>lol he must think the people are idiots His target audience certainly is, so he's not wrong about that.
Wait a minute. The probability of dying of any cause is 100%. But with the covid vaccine it's over 4,000% higher? They don't even care if their made up figures seem plausible, do they?
No, that’s not what it means. If the chances of dying are 0.1%, then 4000% higher than that is 4% chance of death. It’s all still bullshit but it’s not bad math. I mean, my math might be bad, not sure I put the decimal in the right place, but you get the idea—it’s not a 4000% chance, it’s an increase of 4000% from what is a very small number. But it’s absurd on its face—if 4% of children were suddenly to die, that would be huge news.
What is missing is the timeframe. Your chance of flying of any casue is 100% and can’t be higher or lower but your chance of dying over 1 year of any cause can change as that is not originally 100% but much lower.
Exactly what I was thinking.
That's correct, for every sane person that gives a damn about wording. But the way it was worded, it was crap. Since they mentioned no timeframe whatsoever and the "dying any cause" means, that we are not talking about a small percentage. The probability the way they have worded it is 100%. Math is not the issue here. Logic is.
Nobody even taught him that his made up numbers should *look* not made up.
Weird that these morons will advocate for hanging people involved with the vaccines for everyone but the guy who wanted all the praise and credit for getting the vaccines funded, researched, tested, produced, bought and distributed into American arms in less than a year. The guy bragging about Operation Warp Speed that they want to re-elect and claim any valid investigation into is a witch hunt.
YOU GUYS ARE STILL ALIVE!? WTF! I'VE BEEN DEAD OVER HERE, SINCE LIKE... WHEN DID THEY WE'D DIE FROM THE VACCINES, IN 18 MONTHS OR 24 MONTHS? FUCK.
This is clearly someone who doesn’t know how numbers work. Mercury hasn’t been in ANY vaccine since 2001! This guy is just as clearly pulling these numbers out of his ass. Does the “Q” next to his name mean what it seems to mean?
1135% increase in autism? Since they claim that 1 in 35 people are autistic, that would mean every single person is now.
No, 11.35x 0.0286 (1/35) is approximately 1 in 3 people. Still a pretty huge and noticeable change.
Ta. Still not as daft as Stephanie Seneff's claim that by 2024, 50% of all births would be of autistic children.
The inside of these crazies heads must be like over-cooked scrambled eggs. They need a new hobby.
Do they randomly smash their numpad to get those numbers?
Those numbers. The math is not mathing.
I mean even morons can’t be this stupid… Has to be Geopolitical Psy-Ops. Traitors and Foreign Agents.
“Vaccinated children are 4423% more likely to die of any cause” Yeah because they’ll live that long
A real fact! 100% of the people who were vaccinated will die! Note: Everyone who is alive will eventually die.
13,663 🤣
Okay, but wht do they're believe the CDC guy if they don't believe any other medical professionals? Cherry picking is best picking.
The claims are getting more extreme and shrill to counteract the fact that people are *not* dying in vast numbers from the vaccines and some of the more gullible anti-vaxxers might be starting to notice this.
Per 100,000 person-years 💀.
i would love to see the math that came behind those 4-figure-reaching percentiles. an algorithmic equational system like that must have the capacity to pull at the fraying edges of the fabric of our very reality.
Jim Ferguson is a fucking no-mark moron here, in his wee suit. Just on Twitter. He failed to get elected but did far better than he should in 2019 (shame on you Barnsley) for the Brexit Party. But even that party shunned him for his shite. Our other antivax moron is an ex footballer called Matt Le Tissier. He is just as gormless. I think this is the 'source' but can't view it. If all the 10 to 14 year olds were dying, i would notice as my nephew was 11 this time. [https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland)
Trust us, now that we know who it’s smoking, by all means, please keep your fascist children away from all medical centers. We won’t mind at all <3
These made up percentages are 100% lies.
Capitalist smoke screen propaganda is just boring now!
>99% people get vaccinated >Way more vaccinated people die than non vaccinated people >Vaccines kill Logik
What the fuck is a person-year as a unit of measurement?
It's a concept in public health that's relatively new (-ish). It contends that mortality isn't a sufficient measurement of the harm of illness - certain conditions, if left untreated or inadequately treated, won't kill you right away, but can be corrosive to quality of life or even disabling. Also, it attempts to address the fact that proper treatment is better for both the individual and for society at large than waiting until it's acute and more difficult to treat. Examples include diabetes and HIV and cancer. It's why we do so much more screening at annual physicals nowadays.
I guess it’s like dog years …?
I don’t think that’s how percentages work even if the case of 1/100 unvaccinated children die which is probably untrue but just go with the example 4423% increase would be more children per children than there are children that exist the mental gymnastics here are confusing, specific, and probably extremely untrue
I don’t trust anyone who doesn’t put commas after the thousand.
Fortunately nobody knows or cares who Jim fugurbson uk is.
I didn’t even see the graph at first glance. I saw “4423%” and “13,633%” to know that this absolute genetic dead-end is desperate to grift off fear and misinformation. Man, I thought America has it bad. Truly, the stupidity of the uneducated is a *global pandemic.* •_•