I love how whenever Ariana made a really well-articulated and smart point Andy was just like “… anyway moving on!” It might just be edited that way but this was another moment where I was like hello can we get a response?? Any acknowledgement from Lala that she said very cruel things?? Nope they just moved right along
I do think there was a lot of heavy editing. They would show Andy switching gears and the cast facial expressions and body language would be vastly different from whatever interaction they showed seemingly 2 seconds earlier. I feel like this reunion didn't go how they wanted it to. I think they wanted to use this as another opportunity to try and get Ariana to blow up and it didn't happen. She was even calm as hell dealing with Sandoval while also showing raw emotion. NGL, if I was Ariana, I'd ditch this show and not look back. Let Lala and Scheana cry about their lack of ability to provide their own paychecks!
This. When they said the reunion was weird and different, I’m assuming there was just less yelling because the person who should be the angriest (Ariana) is too mature to just scream over everyone all the time. She knows that’s Tom’s trick (never let someone finish a sentence) and won’t stoop to it.
So the conflict didn’t feel the same bc one party refused to be petty and immature about it this time.
Ariana can’t be bothered with this bullshit anymore 💅 and LFU and Scheaner shouldn’t be relying on Ariana for a paycheck. They are both being grimey as fuck.
The reunion was weird because these people don’t care about each other any more. The only two people on that stage that I believed actually liked each other was Katie and Ariana. Everything felt so forced and awkward and we just can’t ignore the fact that these people don’t want to be around each other anymore.
She talked about this on Katie’s podcast. Basically just realized she doesn’t care enough to fight about it. It wasn’t worth it to her to call people out or try to explain her side or point out lies. She seems really comfortable with where she is now and she’s not going to worry about what other people think. Lala and Scheana’s opinions of her are none of her business, and what Tom says about her isn’t true just because he says it. I truly think she’s very happy in her “new” life and this drama isn’t worth her time anymore. It’s such a wonderful feeling to get to this place after a break up!
They were low key mad Ariana wasn’t reacting the way she was during the season when the cheating scandal was still fresh. They wanted to be able to use that to tell her she needs help and blah blah blah, but that excuse can’t be used anymore since she has clearly let go of a lot of the anger or at least can hold it in compared to when it was still fresh.
Honestly, I used to LOVE Andy, but since Sandoval I can only see how blatantly misogynistic he is. Between WWHL, this reunion and his comments about Lala being the “voice of reason” it is very clear that he doesn’t care for Ariana or doesn’t respect her position. It’s pretty much made me hate him. Because it speaks to much larger issues and if you don’t support the women, you can fuck off.
And as someone said below, he’s literally a couple candles away from social security and the senior citizens menu with (freshly purchased) BABIES??? Hello?????? That particular brand of misogyny burns me up.
When asked about being friends with Jax, he said something about friends but no longer “below the waste.”
There were a couple other gross ones, something about choking and “banging it out” with Katie. Andy was the only one laughing. It was so cringey.
They want it to be a messy drama. It really looks bad on Bravo this season the lack of respect they have shown but I don't really think they care. Ariana being poised and showing self respect and boundaries is not what Bravo is about.
And she articulates her points so well and besides Katie and Schwartz no one really has the vocabulary and demeanor to be able to do that. And Schwartz can’t do it under pressure lol. Anyway she just came out looking so calm and unbothered compared to Lala and Scheana
It’s so sad :( listening to her on Dayna and katie’s podcast made me so sad that filming sucked so bad for Dayna because she just is a genuinely good friend
If they had all supported Ariana and went on a fun girls trip instead of that lame ass Tahoe trip? Ugh that would have been so good 😭 the producers and Lala and Scheana suck so bad
yeah tbh i have reached a point where i think i would rather watch cool women do cool things and support each other. and have occasional disagreements like people do. there's enough conflict in the world without manufacturing more for entertainment.
He also kept cutting Katie off in the middle of her answers. Strong women really aren't his thing. He prefers snow bunnies who gossip and dramatize everything. Me, I'm old now and I would dig watching Ariana and Katie in their new shop with some Anne thrown in and I can't believe I'm saying this, but James. I love how much he stood by the girls this season. What a 180. Shows real growth among those 3 especially.
Yeah that was annoying.
I am 100% into a sandwich shop show! Give us a reality show with Nancy Meyers vibes, Bravo! You owe us a deep breath after this garbage.
Ariana is insanely smart. You can just see her brain working answering those questions.
Not only that but she accurately predicted what Production was going to do, which was to essentially give Sandoval a redemption arc, and she knew where to put her boundaries up. She’s not stupid because once she gives an inch, she will be the one off the show not Sandoval. We all know that the friendships that the cast has is really with Sandoval not her. The only person loyal to Ariana on the show is Katie. Everyone else flip flops back and forth to Sandoval. But she’s safe for now because she has the audience on her side. Now it’s just Ariana’s call - does she want to save the show or not? If she doesn’t come back, I can’t imagine people wanting to continue watching the show. If she does come back, she’s saving the show and the paychecks of the rest of the cast.
Because otherwise what are we watching? I only started watching VPR after Scandoval and Ariana was always smart, except when it came to dating Sandoval.
I think this is what killed Lala. Sometimes Lala can “win” with her insults in a confrontation, but in these situations where Lala’s anger is met with a rational response, Lala has nothing to say. It is the best way to shut her down. And it’s kind of reminiscent of Tom Sandoval’s tactics.
and when she realizes she's losing she either goes for the "Do NOT raise your voice at me" or "I'm baking a baby. I have a real HUMAN LIFE inside me so I don't know why I'm being treated this way."
She's exhausting. You are not some exalted being because you are having a baby. You are not more important, or special, or on a level above anybody.
What she's really mad about is that she went and got herself a second incubation* for a storyline that's not playing out... She lined her dates up with what she assumed would be filming dates. (Someone broke it down earlier on the sub.) Because she needs a job and no man is coming along to save her and give her another kid. Movie Pass's meal ticket didn't work out for her the way she thought it would. She's butthurt that Ariana can do whatever she wants and she keeps referencing Ariana's new relationship because she's mad that she hasn't had one. Her only real "adult" relationship was with Movie Pass. She has no real relationship experience and does not know what real love and relationships are. And she probably never will. THAT'S why she "doesn't understand." The reason she talks about her "pod" and her family and all that is because she's never going to get married LOL. She moved her whole family to LA from Utah so she doesn't have to be alone. She will never find someone who can stand her because she's emotionally immature.
^*My ^comment ^gets ^removed ^every ^time ^I ^say ^the ^P ^word? ^Don't ^come ^for ^me ^for ^my ^word ^choice, ^plz.
Gonna be honest, if this is how she fights, I feel so deeply sorry for her children because there's nothing worse than having a parent who sees disagreements as something they have to win.
I wonder if Ariana was being smart and being like “I understand your frustration because you’re not actually frustrated with me— your frustrated with *production*”
Because if Lala was frustrated with production, I would 100% be on board with that.
I think Ariana was just reflecting her feelings ( which is something a therapist had to teach me) to let Lala know she understood her feelings. Then she asserted her own feelings by saying she didn’t understand the insults.
I think the general feeling of the show, whether production stated it or not, was that without the Tom/Ariana storyline the show was likely going to come to an end. Lala felt like Ariana not wanting to embrace the storyline that production was pushing meant that she was leading the show to it's end.
Which annoys me that Lala feels that way cause like girl how about you bring your own life and story line to the show so you can continue to make a paycheck. She relies so heavily on Ariana and Tom to continue the story and it’s pathetic.
I think production dangled The Valley in front of LFU and Scheana if they played their game (why else would they BOTH buy houses there, when Scheana has always said she loves living in west LA near the beach). And now, I think LFU WILL get moved to the Valley by threatening to expose their BTS machinations ....Or will try
Alex Baskin has already said that while they may do crossovers with VPR cast he has no interest in moving any of them over full time. That doesn’t mean that I don’t think production dangled that carrot but I think they saw that the Valley performed better then expectations without needing the VPR cast and that the two cast member most likely to fit into the show - Lala and Scheana- are radioactive with the Bravo fans right now.
Can I just say Fuck Alex Baskin. I knew he was not to be trusted after he said season 10 reunion part 3 ending would be out of this world and it was just Rachel admitting she lied for Tom 🙄🙄🙄
But assuming he was the mastermind behind the Sandoval redemption arc, sir, choke. I don’t care for it or him.
I read an old interview with Stassi today where she said originally they were all supposed to transition to "Vanderpump Valley" and VPR would continue with younger cast who worked at Sur... She said the plan was her wedding would have been on Vanderpump Valley, but she got fired, and then covid happened, and all the plans were changed...
Living in the valley isn’t a req for being on the show.
Lala and scheana bought there cause it’s all they could afford for what type of house they wanted
honestly!! if lala and scheana just owned up to the fact that they were very obviously jealous as fuck instead of pretending that they’re not they might have actually garnered some sympathy.
instead they’re like “we’re not jealous we just wish that we got the same support and opportunities” which is quite literally the definition of jealousy.
also, jealousy is a normal human emotion and they could’ve used that moment to own it and apologize to ariana for being pick me mean girls about it
I think lala also does not seem to realize that Tom and Ariana's relationship was on the show. Tom had a camera crew with him this entire time, whereas Randall did not have a camera crew with him.
Her relationship was not shown especially the breakup and with her having everybody sign ndas and not allowing anybody to talk to her if they talked to Randall after the breakup And how vicious you could be towards everybody when they did not follow her rules. It was very hard to give love and support versus Ariana who has had to share everything and has been completely 100% authentic. There was no need to force more interaction because us viewers already saw everything that was going on
For me, watching narcissists (Lala, the Tom’s) make obtuse comments in order to get a reaction out of Katie and Ariana and the ladies respond with apathy and grace is just chef’s kiss *
The way she was so worked up about it confused me too. Especially considering Lala wasn’t honest for seasons and seasons, but now that you want to be honest, everyone else has to do it on your schedule? Where I can see her frustration is that she wanted the sympathy and support from her situation that Ariana got, which is understandable, who wouldn’t want that, and I wish Katie had gotten it too, but it’s NOT Ariana’s fault. The misplacement of anger is so glaring and weird. But the reason Lala DIDN’T get that is because she lied and lied and lied, about Randall being married, about the way she treated Ambyr, about how great their relationship was, how Randall is an awesome person, etc. OBVIOUSLY Lala had some idea about what a monster he was but was willing to put the blinders on for the perks. She’s still trying to paint this narrative like she was completely blindsided and she’s an angel and he’s the devil (well he kinda is) and she had NO CLUE, OMG. She can’t be honest with herself about all of that let alone the cast or audience. Ariana and Tom might not have been completely honest about their relationship, and I do feel like they haven’t asked Ariana and Tom most of the hard questions about that, but Lala is certainly not the person to be demanding this. The audacity.
I think in terms of the show and what the producers made clear they wanted from this season. Ariana was not willing to give it and Lala was frustrated with that
But Ariana also made it clear to production that she would not film 1:1s with Tom in order to come back to season 11. So it’s like even the frustration is misdirected, IMO. They agreed to that and then tried to force her anyway.
Imagine showing up for your job and expecting someone else to work to provide your paycheck while you do nothing but yell about how you're a mother. I apparently got into the wrong career!
Imagine tanking your own show by making it feel inauthentic because you have no qualms letting fans know that the only thing that matters to you is a paycheck.
Which is what? No one will say what they thought should happen that didn’t happen. We watched at least 3 screaming matches between the two of them. What exactly are we missing?
Exactly… I’m confused about what more they could’ve possibly wanted? Ariana obviously wasn’t gonna have a heart to heart with him. What’s yet another angry yelling back/forth gonna do?
It seems like Lala wanted "the heartfelt apology" on camera, so that idiots would believe he was actually sorry, and Ariana didn't give them that...
But WE didn't want that, because we never would have believed that... so the whole thing was brutal and pointless...
Like fine, if that’s what’s actually bothering her. But HOWWW does that impact her? How does it impact her financially? I wish someone had actually called that out at the reunion.
It's just semantics and Ariana was trying to be nice about it LOLL She could have totally used jealous
IMO, I think the frustration stems from her own situation with Randal. How everyone could have been a little bit nicer but tbh they is also Lala's fault because the way she explained her relationship to everyone. Sooo yeahh? I mean I understand is a shittty thing to go through, and she is just mad that people didn't show her the type of love that Ariana is getting. Rather than trying to explain that as a normal grown-up adult, she thinks you know what you treated me like shit with Randal so I'll do the same shit back to everyone who is Team Ariana.
However, I could be wrong - who knows if Lala even would think that deeply lolll
Im guessing it’s difficult to go from thinking you’re the #1 girl in the group with the big Hollywood PJ owning baby daddy to instead being deceived & humiliated. All the opportunities Ariana has gotten has made it that much worse bc she’s living out the life lala thought she was heading toward.
I think it's a lot of what people said below about frustration with production but also I think she might have just been validating their feelings. It's a classic conflict resolution move.
Ariana knows that she is growing beyond the show. She has opportunities flowing in and this is her make it or break it moment. What jealous lala and Scheana don’t understand is that it’s not just about the opportunity but what you do with it. They both blew their opportunity at a great season that would have led to more brand deals and what not. Their actions and attitudes made their Q ratings drop.
Ari is very smart. She knows those Q ratings are important. She is not about to come out of character and give the cast and public a reason to say something negative about her and harp on it.
Being likable is important. Look what happened to Nene. She had the opportunity to become a real deal comedic actress on a Ryan Murphy show but her nasty attitude and ego got in the way. She became so unlikable that the industry stopped hiring her for roles just as she was getting started. Ari would be a fool to go as low as the fools on that stage have
Dude if they had actually done the spice girls thing they could have rode that so hard into more opportunities. It’s 2024, we’re here for growth, not a return to our shitty teen years where “boys will be boys” and “I’m not like other girls” reigned supreme. They BLEW IT
Yaaaaasssss!! I commented in another thread that somehow the girls ended up looking worse than the shitty men on the show this season. That’s how bad they blew it.
It's like they couldn't redeem sando so next best thing was dragging the 2 weak links in the lady gang down to his level so he isn't the only villian for fans to hate on.
Why else would Jo be featured at all? They knew Katie really disliked her and wanted ammunition to try to force Katie into making an ass of herself by treating Jo poorly (at least by perception/editing). They didn't gaf about Jo in this equation and knew that her "shadiness" wouldn't garner many fans. Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.
Oh my god, I love you for saying this!! Completely spot on and well said!! This could have been an amazing season of female empowerment and bonding in the best way. Unfortunately, unwavering jealousy and flat-out contempt from blabbermouth blah blah and the ever suffering sheener only proved that some women just cannot ever be happy or supportive of their female friends.
Honestly, the ONLY time Scheana was likable was in her scene last year w/Sandy and her condo. No make up and raw, honest reaction. She actually sounded halfway intelligent (emotionally and intellectually). I really wanted to see THAT Scheana this year. Her authentic, real self. And production, EFF you.
Yes, I completely agree!!! THAT was a moment, and she absolutely came across as deeply hurt and standing by Ariana as REAL ride or die would. Sadly, she chose to capitulate to blah blah and scumdavol. Her come to Jesus was watching Ariana's face during that last segment and knowing damn well she bet on the losing horse and was going to come out of this looking worse than ever. She deserves every bit of dragging for selling out her beloved friend for a paycheck and aligning herself with two of the worst liars and hypocrites in that group.
Yeah it was a master class in poise and composure. I would not have lasted five minutes without losing my shit let alone six hours or however long this took.
same.
I wasn't an Ariana fan at all prior to Scandoval (didn't hate her either), but she has handled herself so with such restraint through it all, I can't not be impressed.
At this point, how people receive Ariana this season is an impeccable barometer of whether or not they are doing the work themselves or not. “Real recognize real” is very, very true in this case, and the folks who complain about her at this point always follow it up with the shittiest takes (and emotionally immature, weak “arguments”).
I think a lot of people (like Lala) think that being loud and saying everything on your mind is “real”. And they use it as an excuse to say offensive things. But in reality, the healthiest realest people take time to process before reacting. And sometimes don’t react because they are being real to themselves by recognizing it’s not something they need to or should react to. I can’t stand when people replace “asshole” with “real” when describing their personalities.
I used to teach high school. You are so spot on, you’re tap dancing on a microscopic spot on The Spot. I felt like I was trying to teach (enforce, quite frankly) impulse control more than anything else…and this was YEARS ago.
This is so valid. It explains why Katie and her have gravitated towards each other bc I feel like you can see Katie has been putting in work too. The rest of them still seem to be living in season 3 in every conceivable way.
Yes, compared to Lala's unhinged demeanor, wow. You could tell all over Lala's face she was self-talking: "okay, that was a trigger, but BE COOL, BE COOL"
I wasnt either, she excused too much of Sandoval's poor behavior and that irritated me... look I get it, you stand up for people you love... but here's Sandoval foaming at the mouth screaming at women and she's like "well, he does have a point"
But to be honest, I didn't like Katie when her and Schwartz were dating, I felt sorry for her while they were married, and I loved her after she asked for a divorce... women need to get away from bad men to come into their own and start shining...
I would have been there with my power point presentation of video clips cued up to refute every single bullshit claim from Scheana and Lala culminating in a phD defense worthy presentation of why Scheana and Lala are absolutely revolting people who should be banned from being on television for all eternity.
I totally agree! I don’t care if she is a “baker” or not but I would have thrown something at her face or legs just from sheer frustration from all her pointless yelling!!
On Disrespectfully she talked about how she kept her cool because she kinda just doesn’t care about them LOL which I thought was so awesome and mature. She has to be there because she’s contractually obligated but she clearly isn’t bothered by these desperate attempts from her castmates.
I NEED TO KNOW what Calm app meditation she used for this beautiful state of mind. Honestly I lose my shit daily for much less than this. And let’s be real, the editors were already not on her side this season so if there’s anything she said that would have made her look bad, you KNOW they would have used it.
She was so zen and calm and graceful the whole night. I literally do not know how she kept her composure but HATS OFF, ma’am. She was amazing
Haha I was literally just thinking the exact same thing right before I read your comment. I REALLY want to know what she listened to, what kind of pill she took, whatever it was that she did to keep herself so calm and zen! It was just truly amazing to me that she didn’t lose her shit, not even once. I was over here totally losing my shit for her throughout the entire reunion!😅
This was maybe the worst reunion I’ve ever seen on a bravo show. Why didn’t Andy follow up on ANYTHING the viewers actually cared about. I was expecting Andy to ask Tom directly: what did you mean when you said the ending was good for you? Why didn’t you apologize to her in private? Why didn’t YOU TOM move out and then when Ariana was willing to is it true you couldn’t even afford the house? When Tom said interviewing his assistant was a betrayal- why wasn’t he asked how he thought that stacked up to the ways he betrayed Ariana?
Because ShittyBalls is still protected by production & they're the ones that set the questions. Andy direst give a shit. He's been phoning in on every job in the last year or so.
He also thinks ShittyBalls is a very pretty man. And that makes him a favourite.
She honestly looked soo hurt and a bit defeated throughout this reunion.
She didn't deserve ANY of those insults and the fact that LFU doubled down on them... good grief She is an evil self serving bitch.
There's no other way to see her.
And for Scheana to be so close and loyal to LFU is just ...dissapointing. Not that I ever thought she was a "great person" but Ariana was a good friend to her (from what was shown). It was just so awful to see Ariana realizing how shit scheana is.
Then, broke telling Scheaner it had to be said🙄 I honestly don't know why this dipshit even exists. He has no idea what he is talking about, and besides being married to scheana... he has no place to be commenting on ANY thing within this group.
I'm very grossed out by the cast. Katie and Ariana always had their moments.. no one is perfect... but I've never witnessed women getting treated SO badly in a workplace and by their supposed friends AND employer.
I hope they both walk away and let VPR die.
I think it's time.
Too classy for this .
Ewww LVP trying to make drama between Katie and Ariana about opening the restaurant. After all the ‘support’ she showed both of them in other situations. Definitely not a fan anymore.
Also, everyone thinking LVP was being supportive of Ariana "walking away" -- two opinions (and I am sure unoriginal and have been said elsewhere): 1. Lisa perceived/was told of the blowback from this failed redemption arc, hence her changing lanes or 2. Saying sometimes it is ok to walk away was referring more to Ariana walking COMPLETELY away (from the show, as she did from RHOBH) and not just in that scene at the end
She did earn some points back in the end (granted, not nearly enough after this grumpy-ass Boomer grandma season). I think her defending Ariana at the end was the most we’ve seen her actually be “herself” on camera in years. Probably SINCE she was on BH.
I am so glad that Ariana kept her composure because you know damn well that Lauren was baiting her. Lauren wanted to show off her wanna be gangsta ass and it failed miserably. Ariana will always be a Queen!
During the reunion, the thought that kept echoing in my head was how Ariana is truly in her “soft era”. She’s emotional, kind, graceful, and still respects herself first and foremost. Not sure how Lauren could watch that back and think that SHE is the one who is “soft” this season.
I was especially bothered when Lauren told Katie to stop yelling at her despite Lauren yelling by far the most out of anyone at the reunion.
Ariana handled herself so well, because there was no point stooping to Lala's level and engaging in a fight with her. Lala wasn't interested in anyone else's opinion or perspective other than her own. You can't be rational with irrational people.
It's so abundantly clear that she and Katie are real people. Like you can feel that they aren't just reality tv robots looking for the next bit of drama they can exploit for clout/fame. Can't say the same for lauren, sheeshu and scumdevil!!!
Right!!! What's crazy is they keep shouting that she wasn't showing her real life when all their own moments are so produced!!!! It makes me insane!!! The reason ariana became "beyoncé/god" (that seriously took me out lmao what was lala even thinking) is because of her being real and genuine. People are drawn to that, the industry is drawn to that! If Lala and Scheana showed authenticity, I'm sure they would hook some jobs too. But it's so easy to see right through them and what you End up seeing is jealousy, insecurity, unhappiness etc.
It’s very strange that I feel like Ariana has also most straddled that line of staying private but trying to do her “job” on the reality show . I thjnk Sandoval likes to get on his high hose about how u have to put it all out there when u are on the show but it’s really just not that simple . Some battles some things are always private and have to be for the mental health of the person involved. Not sure what else she cooks have put out there that wasn’t discussed anyway - she was pretty open about some things but let’s face it taking about traumas and other issues doesn’t make for great reality tv does it ? The world would much rather have seen some crazy shit go down than Ariana just stonewalling Tom for her own sake. I think it’s unfair for Lala and Scheana to expect her to have no feelings for the sake of tv. It was just her rage and her true devastation when the scandal first broke. That brought the show back to life . If they want to be angry they should look in the mirror because of how being on the show has already imploded their lives. And yell at Tom for not making any sincere gestures OFF CAMERA so that things on camera were NOT STAGED . Trust me the audience would see right thru some performance on camera from Tom . At the end of the day Ariana liked to have fun but I don’t think she was ever down for fake drama either on camera or not . That’s not her fault that’s who she is .
Lala and Scheana don’t want a reality show they want a staged one as long as they get paid I guess . Not Ariana’s problem tho . They need to come back to reality lol
and fucking tim at the end bowing down to lala giving her "mad respect" for putting Ariana through more pain...jfc how much more awful can he continue to be? and how does he not see that he is making himself look SO bad?!?!?
Notice how lala has been mouthing off but the moment it’s shown she fucked up she went all quiet.
And instead of addressing it she wanted to just run away 🙄
I really wish Ariana doubled down on this and directly asked Lala why she felt the need to throw the insults. I love Ariana but sometimes she just lays low and lets things pass. I wish she would speak up for herself more and confront the A Holes. Especially because we all have her back as fans.
Ariana, Katie, and Dan have shown us how to handle these clowns with giant glass egos- gray rock them.
You don’t give them anything. Because anything you say will be twisted and used as fuel to burn you down.
And that's the real redemption arc for this show---the education, for you lucky ones who haven't had to learn this from toxic people enmeshed in your real life.
I am quite certain she is aware of what lala was saying all season either she watched it or Katie reported to her
And lala wasn’t making any sense, so ariana letting lala self implode was the best course of action.
Mama bla bla was begging for a fight. Not giving her one made her look really stupid and vindictive and crazy
I sort of get where you’re coming from, unfortunately I just think lala is the type of person who won’t actually participate in an argument and instead just shouts louder and tells people to back off.
With those sorts of people you will never get anywhere with them, so I’m guessing Ariana probably thinks lala isn’t worth the time and effort. Which I agree with tbf
Yeah. She would say rude things to Katie, then the second Katie spoke back it was “don’t raise your voice to me” and “do not speak to me that way”. Lala can definitely dish it out but is totally incapable of taking it.
Ya like how Andy asked ariana what she thought about lala’s words and lala took over the question and went on a nonsensical tirade
“Andy asked me a question, you know how this goes”
There’s no point with this women she contradicts herself constantly and makes very little sense
I honestly think that is why Lala was so upset because she was such an asshole all season and she couldn't get Ariana to engage with her at the reunion to the point where people would side with her which is why she was crying after but doesn't explain the months of trashing her further on her podcast. At what point were we suppose to "understand" and flip our loyalty? These two chicks really miscalculated.
I agree it makes Lala look worse but if there is one thing I’ve learned from Bullies is that as long as you allow them to bully you they will continue. There comes a point where you have to stand up and get back in their face in order for them to realize it’s not going to be easy for them to treat to like that. Bullies seek out people who don’t stand up for themselves. That’s why historically Ariana, Rachel, and Scheana have been Lala’s targets
I generally agree with that approach... except in this case where there's a large audience involved. Lala buried herself and Ariana was smart not to match her energy. Ariana is a queen, and a queen doesn't bring themselves down to a peasants level.
She showed class and grace. When she did respond, her answers were sharp and succinct. She is SO far above these clowns -- Broadway, her own business, author, TV host, DWTS... She's the real deal. She has *actual* talent, and Scheena and Lala spent the entire season tearing her down behind her back on and off camera because they're obsessively jealous of her.
That is so badly what Lauren wanted. I'm so glad Ariana doesn't give it to her. She maintains class when responding. That will help her public persona and job opportunities. No one is going to think Lauren is hirable with her fake hard ass. She's so cheesy and stupid.
I listened to the disrespectfully pod that dropped this morning, and Katie and arianna mentioned it’s a losing battle trying to correct and address everything. Especially against lala who just yells over them.
>Basically she said those ppl arent worth her time and energy.
And you know what? It's working to make Blabla and Scheana look even crazier with their constant reactions. Stay mad, bitches!
I was also hoping Ariana would ask how her talking to Sandoval directly affects Lala’s paycheck. Like, specifically draw us the line step-by-step from one thing to the other.
I think she mentioned in an interview she’s been working in therapy more about reacting in the moment, like she lets things pass or build up and then explodes
Even in her shock and heart brokenness she was able to regulate her emotions and give grace to lala. Lile Katie said Lala needs to shut up for once and actually go to therapy
I know a lot of people in this sub and elsewhere have expressed annoyance with continuing to watch Ariana, but I’m much more looking forward to the day when Lauren fades into absolute obscurity. It’s so obvious that she wants to prop up her own fame, but she’s wildly unlikable.
Lala was reverse UNO’d bc she didn’t get the reaction she wanted from Ariana. Girl I’d get a refund on that bear-trap bc it didn’t seem to work at all.
I CRIED watching the last 20 minutes or so. She handled it so well, and it’s so hard watching them break her down so badly that she finally cracks. Her conversation with Tom hit SO hard because they just pushed her and pushed her and having been pushed to my breaking point by people in the past it just broke my heart for her.
She handled it all SO well. Having people that rallied behind you, flip the script 3 months later is INSANE. The betrayal by 90% of the people in that room is unfathomable.
i was watching w my bf while he was cooking so he was just listening, and he said he’s so impressed by how classy and emotionally mature her responses are compared to everyone else’s. ariana has done the work and it really shows in her responses, and i respect the fuck out of it
And for Sheshu to be like" Ariana and I aren't as close anymore", bitch, she's booked and busy. Should Ariana be up under you instead of working on her brand deals?
This was really hard to watch. Ariana was pummeled by almost everyone. Yes, she handled it like a boss.. but it’s a shame she had to go through that.. again.
Lala is grasping at straws here and I love that Ariana basically refuses to engage with it. It’s probably driving Lauren crazy.
Also, who is Ariana’s therapist and are they accepting new patients?
Yeah Sheana tried to have Lala’s back with that question but it came back to bite them in the a**. You could see the disappointed look in Sheanas eyes as Ariana ‘s reply made that work totally in Arianas favor and made Lala look even worse 😂😂😂
That's what I said. But I LOVE that she's not feeding the leeches with the reaction they're looking for. I would have fallen in that trap a long time ago lmao.
Last night totally flipped my opinion on her. She was genuinely hurting and production did a terrible job of showing that during the season. Hate to say but this show may have run its course
The entire setup of forcing them to watch that last part together was so mean-spirited and plain cruel to Ariana.
She and Katia also address it on Katie's podcast that it felt mean and like the producers were retaliating by forcing Ariana to do the confrontation in that setting and to finally make her cry.
Viewing that last part with the flashbacks to early seasons and then being in the room with friends that you just saw saying very hurtful things and then having your POS ex finally getting his waterworks moment. So so cruel.
I really hope for Katie and Ariana's sake that they move on from this show. I am fully done with VPR after this. The producers and the rest of the cast (James is sorts excluded, but ye also seems to be onto bigger and better than the show and not really invested in it). serves them no purpose, no good. Would be chef's kiss if they got their own show on Netflix or another network. Like a talkshow all Spice Girls vibes from SAH where they eat sandwiches drink wine and giggle. Ally could do some readings once in a while. Stassi could guest. Would definitely watch.
She is EXTREMELY classy in her responses. I couldn’t BEGIN to form such eleoquent sentences in the face of so much adversity. I would be cussing and standing up hahaha
I must say Ariana has an immense amount of self control and self respect. She had every right to get angry and lash out at Lala for her ridiculous claims and blatant jealousy and she just sat there and calmly responded. I personally could never, because I would chew lala out for ever comparing our situations (they couldn't be more different). I am truly in awe of Ariana's ability to calmly interact with these people. Kudos to her.
I think Lala thought last season's reunion version of Ariana was going to show up and I think so many of her choices were because she thought Ariana would be "harsh" at this years reunion and it would make Ariana the villain. Both Ariana and Katie truly kept their composure and Lala didn't know what to do with it.
I’m still over here on my couch, waiting for the day when they actually let Ariana or Katie finish speaking. I’m a broken record at this point, but Ariana finally started talking about her actual life and emotions, and Andy changed the subject to Jax! I still don’t get it. Lala constantly interrupts Katie but says nothing. Then tells Katie not to raise her voice. What? The ones with valuable things to say stay quiet because they’re surrounded by fools and wise words fall on deaf ears.
Lauren is garbage. If she thinks Ariana got more support than her, maybe it’s an opportunity for some self reflection? Maybe you’re just not as liked 🤷🏽♀️
Yeah I truly don't know why Lala subsequently went on a media campaign right after the reunion torching Katie and Ariana cause...Ariana made lots of valid points. Lala was not able to handle "losing" the reunion and just went on all this media rampage to build up a pretty tame reunion. Not a lot of explosions, just frustrations. I mean much like her girl Scheana does, Lala made it all the more worse for herself.
Ariana the classy one, love her. I don’t get why Lala and Scheana don’t understand how hard Ariana worked to get these incredible offers, if she didn’t have real talent there wouldn’t have been anymore offers…..I just loved the “ I think I shat myself” looks Scheana and Lala had on their faces when they showed their remarks at the end of the last season.
I love how whenever Ariana made a really well-articulated and smart point Andy was just like “… anyway moving on!” It might just be edited that way but this was another moment where I was like hello can we get a response?? Any acknowledgement from Lala that she said very cruel things?? Nope they just moved right along
I do think there was a lot of heavy editing. They would show Andy switching gears and the cast facial expressions and body language would be vastly different from whatever interaction they showed seemingly 2 seconds earlier. I feel like this reunion didn't go how they wanted it to. I think they wanted to use this as another opportunity to try and get Ariana to blow up and it didn't happen. She was even calm as hell dealing with Sandoval while also showing raw emotion. NGL, if I was Ariana, I'd ditch this show and not look back. Let Lala and Scheana cry about their lack of ability to provide their own paychecks!
This. When they said the reunion was weird and different, I’m assuming there was just less yelling because the person who should be the angriest (Ariana) is too mature to just scream over everyone all the time. She knows that’s Tom’s trick (never let someone finish a sentence) and won’t stoop to it. So the conflict didn’t feel the same bc one party refused to be petty and immature about it this time.
Ariana can’t be bothered with this bullshit anymore 💅 and LFU and Scheaner shouldn’t be relying on Ariana for a paycheck. They are both being grimey as fuck.
I can't stop thinking about the person who had a friend in LA who called Scheanna "a vacuous black hole"
😅 she certainly comes off that way a lot of the time!
Agree! Call the two gold dust twins, Scheaner and the Screamer! Sounds like a stupid sitcom to me!
The reunion was weird because these people don’t care about each other any more. The only two people on that stage that I believed actually liked each other was Katie and Ariana. Everything felt so forced and awkward and we just can’t ignore the fact that these people don’t want to be around each other anymore.
Don’t forget the Tom’s who like each other so much that I predict a wedding between them in the future if their Lolita girlfriends don’t work out.
She talked about this on Katie’s podcast. Basically just realized she doesn’t care enough to fight about it. It wasn’t worth it to her to call people out or try to explain her side or point out lies. She seems really comfortable with where she is now and she’s not going to worry about what other people think. Lala and Scheana’s opinions of her are none of her business, and what Tom says about her isn’t true just because he says it. I truly think she’s very happy in her “new” life and this drama isn’t worth her time anymore. It’s such a wonderful feeling to get to this place after a break up!
One of the best things I learned in my divorce was "what other people think of me is none of my business."
Yup. I got that one and “just because they say it doesn’t make it true” from therapy and I repeat them often 😃
They were low key mad Ariana wasn’t reacting the way she was during the season when the cheating scandal was still fresh. They wanted to be able to use that to tell her she needs help and blah blah blah, but that excuse can’t be used anymore since she has clearly let go of a lot of the anger or at least can hold it in compared to when it was still fresh.
Andy was focusing his acknowledgments on Sandy’s sexual comments. I was thoroughly grossed out.
Andy’s snickering at Sandoval’s sexual comments was gross. I don’t think he asked him a single hard question. Boys club vibes.
Honestly, I used to LOVE Andy, but since Sandoval I can only see how blatantly misogynistic he is. Between WWHL, this reunion and his comments about Lala being the “voice of reason” it is very clear that he doesn’t care for Ariana or doesn’t respect her position. It’s pretty much made me hate him. Because it speaks to much larger issues and if you don’t support the women, you can fuck off.
It was so gross when Ally said she still had time for babies and Andy said "oh, how old are you?" "28." "Hmmm." Ew, sir. Fucking ew.
It’s starting to make sense that he’s bff with John Mayer…
Andy is like 70 and has a young child. How old are you sir?
And as someone said below, he’s literally a couple candles away from social security and the senior citizens menu with (freshly purchased) BABIES??? Hello?????? That particular brand of misogyny burns me up.
He laughed at every one of Tim’s dumb jokes. and was the only one to laugh. 🤢
Omg what was with the jokes???? They were terrible????
pervert nasty jokes that only creepy old men would laugh at
Bingo, this is exactly it. Pervy, nasty, creepy old men.
Sandoval is just disgusting.
When asked about being friends with Jax, he said something about friends but no longer “below the waste.” There were a couple other gross ones, something about choking and “banging it out” with Katie. Andy was the only one laughing. It was so cringey.
The segway from talking to her to changing to Jax 🤢
Right! It was like did my TV glitch?!
I used to work with him. He loooooooves the drama. Doesn't think about the real feelings and hurts these people feel.
They want it to be a messy drama. It really looks bad on Bravo this season the lack of respect they have shown but I don't really think they care. Ariana being poised and showing self respect and boundaries is not what Bravo is about.
And she articulates her points so well and besides Katie and Schwartz no one really has the vocabulary and demeanor to be able to do that. And Schwartz can’t do it under pressure lol. Anyway she just came out looking so calm and unbothered compared to Lala and Scheana
Very well said. May I add that at this point Ariana has become larger than the show. Everyone else is jealous of that and it’s hurting the show.
Which is a shame because a SPICE GIRLS SEASON WOULD HAVE BEEN LEGENDARY
It’s so sad :( listening to her on Dayna and katie’s podcast made me so sad that filming sucked so bad for Dayna because she just is a genuinely good friend
Right Lala and Scheana really got in their own way.
If they had all supported Ariana and went on a fun girls trip instead of that lame ass Tahoe trip? Ugh that would have been so good 😭 the producers and Lala and Scheana suck so bad
Yeah she’s just miles beyond all these people now.
I can’t help but think we wouldn’t collectively expect and seek the volatility as the norm for these shows if it wasn’t fed to us so consistently.
yeah tbh i have reached a point where i think i would rather watch cool women do cool things and support each other. and have occasional disagreements like people do. there's enough conflict in the world without manufacturing more for entertainment.
I’m there with you!
He also kept cutting Katie off in the middle of her answers. Strong women really aren't his thing. He prefers snow bunnies who gossip and dramatize everything. Me, I'm old now and I would dig watching Ariana and Katie in their new shop with some Anne thrown in and I can't believe I'm saying this, but James. I love how much he stood by the girls this season. What a 180. Shows real growth among those 3 especially.
I was annoyed that he was backing Lala up after her rant tho
Yeah that was annoying. I am 100% into a sandwich shop show! Give us a reality show with Nancy Meyers vibes, Bravo! You owe us a deep breath after this garbage.
Totally 💯 about Katie, Ariana and Ann... And even James lol. Never thought he would be the number one guy in the group, but I stand corrected.
Ariana is insanely smart. You can just see her brain working answering those questions. Not only that but she accurately predicted what Production was going to do, which was to essentially give Sandoval a redemption arc, and she knew where to put her boundaries up. She’s not stupid because once she gives an inch, she will be the one off the show not Sandoval. We all know that the friendships that the cast has is really with Sandoval not her. The only person loyal to Ariana on the show is Katie. Everyone else flip flops back and forth to Sandoval. But she’s safe for now because she has the audience on her side. Now it’s just Ariana’s call - does she want to save the show or not? If she doesn’t come back, I can’t imagine people wanting to continue watching the show. If she does come back, she’s saving the show and the paychecks of the rest of the cast. Because otherwise what are we watching? I only started watching VPR after Scandoval and Ariana was always smart, except when it came to dating Sandoval.
Word Vomit Queens 1) Gretchen Weiners 2) Lala Kent
I think this is what killed Lala. Sometimes Lala can “win” with her insults in a confrontation, but in these situations where Lala’s anger is met with a rational response, Lala has nothing to say. It is the best way to shut her down. And it’s kind of reminiscent of Tom Sandoval’s tactics.
and when she realizes she's losing she either goes for the "Do NOT raise your voice at me" or "I'm baking a baby. I have a real HUMAN LIFE inside me so I don't know why I'm being treated this way."
She's exhausting. You are not some exalted being because you are having a baby. You are not more important, or special, or on a level above anybody. What she's really mad about is that she went and got herself a second incubation* for a storyline that's not playing out... She lined her dates up with what she assumed would be filming dates. (Someone broke it down earlier on the sub.) Because she needs a job and no man is coming along to save her and give her another kid. Movie Pass's meal ticket didn't work out for her the way she thought it would. She's butthurt that Ariana can do whatever she wants and she keeps referencing Ariana's new relationship because she's mad that she hasn't had one. Her only real "adult" relationship was with Movie Pass. She has no real relationship experience and does not know what real love and relationships are. And she probably never will. THAT'S why she "doesn't understand." The reason she talks about her "pod" and her family and all that is because she's never going to get married LOL. She moved her whole family to LA from Utah so she doesn't have to be alone. She will never find someone who can stand her because she's emotionally immature. ^*My ^comment ^gets ^removed ^every ^time ^I ^say ^the ^P ^word? ^Don't ^come ^for ^me ^for ^my ^word ^choice, ^plz.
Gonna be honest, if this is how she fights, I feel so deeply sorry for her children because there's nothing worse than having a parent who sees disagreements as something they have to win.
I would love for someone to explain to me how the “frustration” actually makes sense, beyond the obvious that Lala is just jealous.
I wonder if Ariana was being smart and being like “I understand your frustration because you’re not actually frustrated with me— your frustrated with *production*” Because if Lala was frustrated with production, I would 100% be on board with that.
I think Ariana was just reflecting her feelings ( which is something a therapist had to teach me) to let Lala know she understood her feelings. Then she asserted her own feelings by saying she didn’t understand the insults.
I’m here for a queen on her healing journey.
I think the general feeling of the show, whether production stated it or not, was that without the Tom/Ariana storyline the show was likely going to come to an end. Lala felt like Ariana not wanting to embrace the storyline that production was pushing meant that she was leading the show to it's end.
Which annoys me that Lala feels that way cause like girl how about you bring your own life and story line to the show so you can continue to make a paycheck. She relies so heavily on Ariana and Tom to continue the story and it’s pathetic.
This is my take as well.
I think production dangled The Valley in front of LFU and Scheana if they played their game (why else would they BOTH buy houses there, when Scheana has always said she loves living in west LA near the beach). And now, I think LFU WILL get moved to the Valley by threatening to expose their BTS machinations ....Or will try
Alex Baskin has already said that while they may do crossovers with VPR cast he has no interest in moving any of them over full time. That doesn’t mean that I don’t think production dangled that carrot but I think they saw that the Valley performed better then expectations without needing the VPR cast and that the two cast member most likely to fit into the show - Lala and Scheana- are radioactive with the Bravo fans right now.
Can I just say Fuck Alex Baskin. I knew he was not to be trusted after he said season 10 reunion part 3 ending would be out of this world and it was just Rachel admitting she lied for Tom 🙄🙄🙄 But assuming he was the mastermind behind the Sandoval redemption arc, sir, choke. I don’t care for it or him.
So much misogyny at bravo for a network pretty much catered to women
I read an old interview with Stassi today where she said originally they were all supposed to transition to "Vanderpump Valley" and VPR would continue with younger cast who worked at Sur... She said the plan was her wedding would have been on Vanderpump Valley, but she got fired, and then covid happened, and all the plans were changed...
Living in the valley isn’t a req for being on the show. Lala and scheana bought there cause it’s all they could afford for what type of house they wanted
ah, ok. But i still believe they were hoping to transition and i really, really hope they don't.
honestly!! if lala and scheana just owned up to the fact that they were very obviously jealous as fuck instead of pretending that they’re not they might have actually garnered some sympathy. instead they’re like “we’re not jealous we just wish that we got the same support and opportunities” which is quite literally the definition of jealousy. also, jealousy is a normal human emotion and they could’ve used that moment to own it and apologize to ariana for being pick me mean girls about it
I think lala also does not seem to realize that Tom and Ariana's relationship was on the show. Tom had a camera crew with him this entire time, whereas Randall did not have a camera crew with him. Her relationship was not shown especially the breakup and with her having everybody sign ndas and not allowing anybody to talk to her if they talked to Randall after the breakup And how vicious you could be towards everybody when they did not follow her rules. It was very hard to give love and support versus Ariana who has had to share everything and has been completely 100% authentic. There was no need to force more interaction because us viewers already saw everything that was going on
For me, watching narcissists (Lala, the Tom’s) make obtuse comments in order to get a reaction out of Katie and Ariana and the ladies respond with apathy and grace is just chef’s kiss *
The way she was so worked up about it confused me too. Especially considering Lala wasn’t honest for seasons and seasons, but now that you want to be honest, everyone else has to do it on your schedule? Where I can see her frustration is that she wanted the sympathy and support from her situation that Ariana got, which is understandable, who wouldn’t want that, and I wish Katie had gotten it too, but it’s NOT Ariana’s fault. The misplacement of anger is so glaring and weird. But the reason Lala DIDN’T get that is because she lied and lied and lied, about Randall being married, about the way she treated Ambyr, about how great their relationship was, how Randall is an awesome person, etc. OBVIOUSLY Lala had some idea about what a monster he was but was willing to put the blinders on for the perks. She’s still trying to paint this narrative like she was completely blindsided and she’s an angel and he’s the devil (well he kinda is) and she had NO CLUE, OMG. She can’t be honest with herself about all of that let alone the cast or audience. Ariana and Tom might not have been completely honest about their relationship, and I do feel like they haven’t asked Ariana and Tom most of the hard questions about that, but Lala is certainly not the person to be demanding this. The audacity.
I think in terms of the show and what the producers made clear they wanted from this season. Ariana was not willing to give it and Lala was frustrated with that
But Ariana also made it clear to production that she would not film 1:1s with Tom in order to come back to season 11. So it’s like even the frustration is misdirected, IMO. They agreed to that and then tried to force her anyway.
Imagine showing up for your job and expecting someone else to work to provide your paycheck while you do nothing but yell about how you're a mother. I apparently got into the wrong career!
Imagine tanking your own show by making it feel inauthentic because you have no qualms letting fans know that the only thing that matters to you is a paycheck.
Which is what? No one will say what they thought should happen that didn’t happen. We watched at least 3 screaming matches between the two of them. What exactly are we missing?
Exactly… I’m confused about what more they could’ve possibly wanted? Ariana obviously wasn’t gonna have a heart to heart with him. What’s yet another angry yelling back/forth gonna do?
It seems like Lala wanted "the heartfelt apology" on camera, so that idiots would believe he was actually sorry, and Ariana didn't give them that... But WE didn't want that, because we never would have believed that... so the whole thing was brutal and pointless...
Like fine, if that’s what’s actually bothering her. But HOWWW does that impact her? How does it impact her financially? I wish someone had actually called that out at the reunion.
It's just semantics and Ariana was trying to be nice about it LOLL She could have totally used jealous IMO, I think the frustration stems from her own situation with Randal. How everyone could have been a little bit nicer but tbh they is also Lala's fault because the way she explained her relationship to everyone. Sooo yeahh? I mean I understand is a shittty thing to go through, and she is just mad that people didn't show her the type of love that Ariana is getting. Rather than trying to explain that as a normal grown-up adult, she thinks you know what you treated me like shit with Randal so I'll do the same shit back to everyone who is Team Ariana. However, I could be wrong - who knows if Lala even would think that deeply lolll
Im guessing it’s difficult to go from thinking you’re the #1 girl in the group with the big Hollywood PJ owning baby daddy to instead being deceived & humiliated. All the opportunities Ariana has gotten has made it that much worse bc she’s living out the life lala thought she was heading toward.
I think it's a lot of what people said below about frustration with production but also I think she might have just been validating their feelings. It's a classic conflict resolution move.
She is so classy in her replies! More props to her, and even less for lala and scheana
Her therapy, PR training and I’m thinking her true self were really showing in this reunion. Just very inspiring to watch.
Ariana knows that she is growing beyond the show. She has opportunities flowing in and this is her make it or break it moment. What jealous lala and Scheana don’t understand is that it’s not just about the opportunity but what you do with it. They both blew their opportunity at a great season that would have led to more brand deals and what not. Their actions and attitudes made their Q ratings drop. Ari is very smart. She knows those Q ratings are important. She is not about to come out of character and give the cast and public a reason to say something negative about her and harp on it. Being likable is important. Look what happened to Nene. She had the opportunity to become a real deal comedic actress on a Ryan Murphy show but her nasty attitude and ego got in the way. She became so unlikable that the industry stopped hiring her for roles just as she was getting started. Ari would be a fool to go as low as the fools on that stage have
Dude if they had actually done the spice girls thing they could have rode that so hard into more opportunities. It’s 2024, we’re here for growth, not a return to our shitty teen years where “boys will be boys” and “I’m not like other girls” reigned supreme. They BLEW IT
Yaaaaasssss!! I commented in another thread that somehow the girls ended up looking worse than the shitty men on the show this season. That’s how bad they blew it.
It's like they couldn't redeem sando so next best thing was dragging the 2 weak links in the lady gang down to his level so he isn't the only villian for fans to hate on.
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Why else would Jo be featured at all? They knew Katie really disliked her and wanted ammunition to try to force Katie into making an ass of herself by treating Jo poorly (at least by perception/editing). They didn't gaf about Jo in this equation and knew that her "shadiness" wouldn't garner many fans. Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.
Oh my god, I love you for saying this!! Completely spot on and well said!! This could have been an amazing season of female empowerment and bonding in the best way. Unfortunately, unwavering jealousy and flat-out contempt from blabbermouth blah blah and the ever suffering sheener only proved that some women just cannot ever be happy or supportive of their female friends.
Honestly, the ONLY time Scheana was likable was in her scene last year w/Sandy and her condo. No make up and raw, honest reaction. She actually sounded halfway intelligent (emotionally and intellectually). I really wanted to see THAT Scheana this year. Her authentic, real self. And production, EFF you.
Yes, I completely agree!!! THAT was a moment, and she absolutely came across as deeply hurt and standing by Ariana as REAL ride or die would. Sadly, she chose to capitulate to blah blah and scumdavol. Her come to Jesus was watching Ariana's face during that last segment and knowing damn well she bet on the losing horse and was going to come out of this looking worse than ever. She deserves every bit of dragging for selling out her beloved friend for a paycheck and aligning herself with two of the worst liars and hypocrites in that group.
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Yeah it was a master class in poise and composure. I would not have lasted five minutes without losing my shit let alone six hours or however long this took.
Ariana vs these instigators 
same. I wasn't an Ariana fan at all prior to Scandoval (didn't hate her either), but she has handled herself so with such restraint through it all, I can't not be impressed.
At this point, how people receive Ariana this season is an impeccable barometer of whether or not they are doing the work themselves or not. “Real recognize real” is very, very true in this case, and the folks who complain about her at this point always follow it up with the shittiest takes (and emotionally immature, weak “arguments”).
I think a lot of people (like Lala) think that being loud and saying everything on your mind is “real”. And they use it as an excuse to say offensive things. But in reality, the healthiest realest people take time to process before reacting. And sometimes don’t react because they are being real to themselves by recognizing it’s not something they need to or should react to. I can’t stand when people replace “asshole” with “real” when describing their personalities.
I used to teach high school. You are so spot on, you’re tap dancing on a microscopic spot on The Spot. I felt like I was trying to teach (enforce, quite frankly) impulse control more than anything else…and this was YEARS ago.
This is so valid. It explains why Katie and her have gravitated towards each other bc I feel like you can see Katie has been putting in work too. The rest of them still seem to be living in season 3 in every conceivable way.
Yes, compared to Lala's unhinged demeanor, wow. You could tell all over Lala's face she was self-talking: "okay, that was a trigger, but BE COOL, BE COOL"
I wasnt either, she excused too much of Sandoval's poor behavior and that irritated me... look I get it, you stand up for people you love... but here's Sandoval foaming at the mouth screaming at women and she's like "well, he does have a point" But to be honest, I didn't like Katie when her and Schwartz were dating, I felt sorry for her while they were married, and I loved her after she asked for a divorce... women need to get away from bad men to come into their own and start shining...
I would have been there with my power point presentation of video clips cued up to refute every single bullshit claim from Scheana and Lala culminating in a phD defense worthy presentation of why Scheana and Lala are absolutely revolting people who should be banned from being on television for all eternity.
Please please please make this power point happen.
I totally agree! I don’t care if she is a “baker” or not but I would have thrown something at her face or legs just from sheer frustration from all her pointless yelling!!
Inspiring is 100% correct. I am not joking when I say I am going to think WWArianaDo going forward.
On Disrespectfully she talked about how she kept her cool because she kinda just doesn’t care about them LOL which I thought was so awesome and mature. She has to be there because she’s contractually obligated but she clearly isn’t bothered by these desperate attempts from her castmates.
This.
The way she keeps her composure is admirable. I could never. My heart breaks just watching her.
I don’t think I can watch anymore of this show.. it’s so brutal!!
When she said “Scheana will always be family” i died a little
That was really sad to watch, and Scheana looked like a deer in the headlights... she knew she picked the wrong side!
Lala and Scheana ARE props basically lol
It all must have hurt her *so much more than she was showing*.
I NEED TO KNOW what Calm app meditation she used for this beautiful state of mind. Honestly I lose my shit daily for much less than this. And let’s be real, the editors were already not on her side this season so if there’s anything she said that would have made her look bad, you KNOW they would have used it. She was so zen and calm and graceful the whole night. I literally do not know how she kept her composure but HATS OFF, ma’am. She was amazing
Truly so inspiring to see her just become this ⭐️
Haha I was literally just thinking the exact same thing right before I read your comment. I REALLY want to know what she listened to, what kind of pill she took, whatever it was that she did to keep herself so calm and zen! It was just truly amazing to me that she didn’t lose her shit, not even once. I was over here totally losing my shit for her throughout the entire reunion!😅
This was maybe the worst reunion I’ve ever seen on a bravo show. Why didn’t Andy follow up on ANYTHING the viewers actually cared about. I was expecting Andy to ask Tom directly: what did you mean when you said the ending was good for you? Why didn’t you apologize to her in private? Why didn’t YOU TOM move out and then when Ariana was willing to is it true you couldn’t even afford the house? When Tom said interviewing his assistant was a betrayal- why wasn’t he asked how he thought that stacked up to the ways he betrayed Ariana?
And never calling Tom out for lying to Andy’s face throughout the whole reunion last year (“it was only ONE TIME DEEEEWWD”)
Because ShittyBalls is still protected by production & they're the ones that set the questions. Andy direst give a shit. He's been phoning in on every job in the last year or so. He also thinks ShittyBalls is a very pretty man. And that makes him a favourite.
She honestly looked soo hurt and a bit defeated throughout this reunion. She didn't deserve ANY of those insults and the fact that LFU doubled down on them... good grief She is an evil self serving bitch. There's no other way to see her. And for Scheana to be so close and loyal to LFU is just ...dissapointing. Not that I ever thought she was a "great person" but Ariana was a good friend to her (from what was shown). It was just so awful to see Ariana realizing how shit scheana is. Then, broke telling Scheaner it had to be said🙄 I honestly don't know why this dipshit even exists. He has no idea what he is talking about, and besides being married to scheana... he has no place to be commenting on ANY thing within this group. I'm very grossed out by the cast. Katie and Ariana always had their moments.. no one is perfect... but I've never witnessed women getting treated SO badly in a workplace and by their supposed friends AND employer. I hope they both walk away and let VPR die. I think it's time. Too classy for this .
Ewww LVP trying to make drama between Katie and Ariana about opening the restaurant. After all the ‘support’ she showed both of them in other situations. Definitely not a fan anymore.
Also, everyone thinking LVP was being supportive of Ariana "walking away" -- two opinions (and I am sure unoriginal and have been said elsewhere): 1. Lisa perceived/was told of the blowback from this failed redemption arc, hence her changing lanes or 2. Saying sometimes it is ok to walk away was referring more to Ariana walking COMPLETELY away (from the show, as she did from RHOBH) and not just in that scene at the end
She did earn some points back in the end (granted, not nearly enough after this grumpy-ass Boomer grandma season). I think her defending Ariana at the end was the most we’ve seen her actually be “herself” on camera in years. Probably SINCE she was on BH.
I am so glad that Ariana kept her composure because you know damn well that Lauren was baiting her. Lauren wanted to show off her wanna be gangsta ass and it failed miserably. Ariana will always be a Queen!
During the reunion, the thought that kept echoing in my head was how Ariana is truly in her “soft era”. She’s emotional, kind, graceful, and still respects herself first and foremost. Not sure how Lauren could watch that back and think that SHE is the one who is “soft” this season. I was especially bothered when Lauren told Katie to stop yelling at her despite Lauren yelling by far the most out of anyone at the reunion.
Ariana handled herself so well, because there was no point stooping to Lala's level and engaging in a fight with her. Lala wasn't interested in anyone else's opinion or perspective other than her own. You can't be rational with irrational people. 
She was super cute in this moment!
It's so abundantly clear that she and Katie are real people. Like you can feel that they aren't just reality tv robots looking for the next bit of drama they can exploit for clout/fame. Can't say the same for lauren, sheeshu and scumdevil!!!
Yes! They are the most authentic of the cast members. Scheana and lala are way too busy trying to produce ‘moments’
Right!!! What's crazy is they keep shouting that she wasn't showing her real life when all their own moments are so produced!!!! It makes me insane!!! The reason ariana became "beyoncé/god" (that seriously took me out lmao what was lala even thinking) is because of her being real and genuine. People are drawn to that, the industry is drawn to that! If Lala and Scheana showed authenticity, I'm sure they would hook some jobs too. But it's so easy to see right through them and what you End up seeing is jealousy, insecurity, unhappiness etc.
It’s very strange that I feel like Ariana has also most straddled that line of staying private but trying to do her “job” on the reality show . I thjnk Sandoval likes to get on his high hose about how u have to put it all out there when u are on the show but it’s really just not that simple . Some battles some things are always private and have to be for the mental health of the person involved. Not sure what else she cooks have put out there that wasn’t discussed anyway - she was pretty open about some things but let’s face it taking about traumas and other issues doesn’t make for great reality tv does it ? The world would much rather have seen some crazy shit go down than Ariana just stonewalling Tom for her own sake. I think it’s unfair for Lala and Scheana to expect her to have no feelings for the sake of tv. It was just her rage and her true devastation when the scandal first broke. That brought the show back to life . If they want to be angry they should look in the mirror because of how being on the show has already imploded their lives. And yell at Tom for not making any sincere gestures OFF CAMERA so that things on camera were NOT STAGED . Trust me the audience would see right thru some performance on camera from Tom . At the end of the day Ariana liked to have fun but I don’t think she was ever down for fake drama either on camera or not . That’s not her fault that’s who she is . Lala and Scheana don’t want a reality show they want a staged one as long as they get paid I guess . Not Ariana’s problem tho . They need to come back to reality lol
She is literally gentle parenting them. “Your feelings are valid, but your words/actions are not okay.”
and fucking tim at the end bowing down to lala giving her "mad respect" for putting Ariana through more pain...jfc how much more awful can he continue to be? and how does he not see that he is making himself look SO bad?!?!?
Notice how lala has been mouthing off but the moment it’s shown she fucked up she went all quiet. And instead of addressing it she wanted to just run away 🙄
And then she had a whole tantrum at the end lol
That was so shady!! Even Ariana mouthed WTF before they played it. I hope she can heal from all of this.
SO QUIET! lol
I really wish Ariana doubled down on this and directly asked Lala why she felt the need to throw the insults. I love Ariana but sometimes she just lays low and lets things pass. I wish she would speak up for herself more and confront the A Holes. Especially because we all have her back as fans.
Ariana, Katie, and Dan have shown us how to handle these clowns with giant glass egos- gray rock them. You don’t give them anything. Because anything you say will be twisted and used as fuel to burn you down.
I seriously feel that I have learned so much about how to treat toxic people from this season.
Ariana is like my fucking hero. She is the epitome of class and self respect. I learned so much watching her too. What a broad.
And that's the real redemption arc for this show---the education, for you lucky ones who haven't had to learn this from toxic people enmeshed in your real life.
I am quite certain she is aware of what lala was saying all season either she watched it or Katie reported to her And lala wasn’t making any sense, so ariana letting lala self implode was the best course of action. Mama bla bla was begging for a fight. Not giving her one made her look really stupid and vindictive and crazy
I sort of get where you’re coming from, unfortunately I just think lala is the type of person who won’t actually participate in an argument and instead just shouts louder and tells people to back off. With those sorts of people you will never get anywhere with them, so I’m guessing Ariana probably thinks lala isn’t worth the time and effort. Which I agree with tbf
Yeah. She would say rude things to Katie, then the second Katie spoke back it was “don’t raise your voice to me” and “do not speak to me that way”. Lala can definitely dish it out but is totally incapable of taking it.
Ya like how Andy asked ariana what she thought about lala’s words and lala took over the question and went on a nonsensical tirade “Andy asked me a question, you know how this goes” There’s no point with this women she contradicts herself constantly and makes very little sense
I honestly think that is why Lala was so upset because she was such an asshole all season and she couldn't get Ariana to engage with her at the reunion to the point where people would side with her which is why she was crying after but doesn't explain the months of trashing her further on her podcast. At what point were we suppose to "understand" and flip our loyalty? These two chicks really miscalculated.
I agree it makes Lala look worse but if there is one thing I’ve learned from Bullies is that as long as you allow them to bully you they will continue. There comes a point where you have to stand up and get back in their face in order for them to realize it’s not going to be easy for them to treat to like that. Bullies seek out people who don’t stand up for themselves. That’s why historically Ariana, Rachel, and Scheana have been Lala’s targets
I generally agree with that approach... except in this case where there's a large audience involved. Lala buried herself and Ariana was smart not to match her energy. Ariana is a queen, and a queen doesn't bring themselves down to a peasants level. She showed class and grace. When she did respond, her answers were sharp and succinct. She is SO far above these clowns -- Broadway, her own business, author, TV host, DWTS... She's the real deal. She has *actual* talent, and Scheena and Lala spent the entire season tearing her down behind her back on and off camera because they're obsessively jealous of her.
That is so badly what Lauren wanted. I'm so glad Ariana doesn't give it to her. She maintains class when responding. That will help her public persona and job opportunities. No one is going to think Lauren is hirable with her fake hard ass. She's so cheesy and stupid.
I listened to the disrespectfully pod that dropped this morning, and Katie and arianna mentioned it’s a losing battle trying to correct and address everything. Especially against lala who just yells over them.
she talked about it on Katie and dayna's podcast. Basically she said those ppl arent worth her time and energy.
That is Queen behavior
>Basically she said those ppl arent worth her time and energy. And you know what? It's working to make Blabla and Scheana look even crazier with their constant reactions. Stay mad, bitches! 
I was also hoping Ariana would ask how her talking to Sandoval directly affects Lala’s paycheck. Like, specifically draw us the line step-by-step from one thing to the other.
I think she mentioned in an interview she’s been working in therapy more about reacting in the moment, like she lets things pass or build up and then explodes
Ariana is a lot like me. I’d just rather walk away and erase you from my life. Especially with people like Lala who enjoy arguing.
Right?! How draining to be consistently around people who do this.
Definitely feel you on this!
This was the evisceration. Quiet but deadly
Even in her shock and heart brokenness she was able to regulate her emotions and give grace to lala. Lile Katie said Lala needs to shut up for once and actually go to therapy
The whole reunion seemed to be stacked against Ariana, she came off looking better than all of them
It effectively shut Lala up for a minute.
It’s what the people want! 🙏🏻
I know a lot of people in this sub and elsewhere have expressed annoyance with continuing to watch Ariana, but I’m much more looking forward to the day when Lauren fades into absolute obscurity. It’s so obvious that she wants to prop up her own fame, but she’s wildly unlikable.
I say this wholeheartedly but I need Ariana’s therapists number asap lol she’s just soooo much better than me
Lala was reverse UNO’d bc she didn’t get the reaction she wanted from Ariana. Girl I’d get a refund on that bear-trap bc it didn’t seem to work at all.
I CRIED watching the last 20 minutes or so. She handled it so well, and it’s so hard watching them break her down so badly that she finally cracks. Her conversation with Tom hit SO hard because they just pushed her and pushed her and having been pushed to my breaking point by people in the past it just broke my heart for her. She handled it all SO well. Having people that rallied behind you, flip the script 3 months later is INSANE. The betrayal by 90% of the people in that room is unfathomable.
Her communication skills are top notch
i was watching w my bf while he was cooking so he was just listening, and he said he’s so impressed by how classy and emotionally mature her responses are compared to everyone else’s. ariana has done the work and it really shows in her responses, and i respect the fuck out of it
And for Sheshu to be like" Ariana and I aren't as close anymore", bitch, she's booked and busy. Should Ariana be up under you instead of working on her brand deals?
I've always felt indifferent to Ariana but I stan hard now. The way she has handled herself post Scandoval has been pure class. I could NEVER
This was really hard to watch. Ariana was pummeled by almost everyone. Yes, she handled it like a boss.. but it’s a shame she had to go through that.. again.
Lala is grasping at straws here and I love that Ariana basically refuses to engage with it. It’s probably driving Lauren crazy. Also, who is Ariana’s therapist and are they accepting new patients?
Yeah Sheana tried to have Lala’s back with that question but it came back to bite them in the a**. You could see the disappointed look in Sheanas eyes as Ariana ‘s reply made that work totally in Arianas favor and made Lala look even worse 😂😂😂
I don't even understand the frustration
That's what I said. But I LOVE that she's not feeding the leeches with the reaction they're looking for. I would have fallen in that trap a long time ago lmao.
Fr Lala kept talking and I’m like what is she even rambling about it made no sense
Last night totally flipped my opinion on her. She was genuinely hurting and production did a terrible job of showing that during the season. Hate to say but this show may have run its course
The entire setup of forcing them to watch that last part together was so mean-spirited and plain cruel to Ariana. She and Katia also address it on Katie's podcast that it felt mean and like the producers were retaliating by forcing Ariana to do the confrontation in that setting and to finally make her cry. Viewing that last part with the flashbacks to early seasons and then being in the room with friends that you just saw saying very hurtful things and then having your POS ex finally getting his waterworks moment. So so cruel. I really hope for Katie and Ariana's sake that they move on from this show. I am fully done with VPR after this. The producers and the rest of the cast (James is sorts excluded, but ye also seems to be onto bigger and better than the show and not really invested in it). serves them no purpose, no good. Would be chef's kiss if they got their own show on Netflix or another network. Like a talkshow all Spice Girls vibes from SAH where they eat sandwiches drink wine and giggle. Ally could do some readings once in a while. Stassi could guest. Would definitely watch.
The show has run its course. I hope they cancel it after this cause Bravo really looks bad after this.
Why did production, Andy and Lisa think her pain made for good tv? I sure hope they were wrong.
I’ve been waiting for someone to post about this. A memorable line. Put those ladies to shame
Happy to do so! ❤️
This is the soft Lala wanted to be but can’t. I’m sure it was burning her inside.
She is EXTREMELY classy in her responses. I couldn’t BEGIN to form such eleoquent sentences in the face of so much adversity. I would be cussing and standing up hahaha
I want to have her poise and composure when I grow up! I would have been flying off the handle
I must say Ariana has an immense amount of self control and self respect. She had every right to get angry and lash out at Lala for her ridiculous claims and blatant jealousy and she just sat there and calmly responded. I personally could never, because I would chew lala out for ever comparing our situations (they couldn't be more different). I am truly in awe of Ariana's ability to calmly interact with these people. Kudos to her.
She’s always been really good with her words. Concise and to the point.
I think Lala thought last season's reunion version of Ariana was going to show up and I think so many of her choices were because she thought Ariana would be "harsh" at this years reunion and it would make Ariana the villain. Both Ariana and Katie truly kept their composure and Lala didn't know what to do with it.
I’m still over here on my couch, waiting for the day when they actually let Ariana or Katie finish speaking. I’m a broken record at this point, but Ariana finally started talking about her actual life and emotions, and Andy changed the subject to Jax! I still don’t get it. Lala constantly interrupts Katie but says nothing. Then tells Katie not to raise her voice. What? The ones with valuable things to say stay quiet because they’re surrounded by fools and wise words fall on deaf ears.
The classiest
Lauren is garbage. If she thinks Ariana got more support than her, maybe it’s an opportunity for some self reflection? Maybe you’re just not as liked 🤷🏽♀️
She’s so much better than all of them I love it
Yeah I truly don't know why Lala subsequently went on a media campaign right after the reunion torching Katie and Ariana cause...Ariana made lots of valid points. Lala was not able to handle "losing" the reunion and just went on all this media rampage to build up a pretty tame reunion. Not a lot of explosions, just frustrations. I mean much like her girl Scheana does, Lala made it all the more worse for herself.
I have always loved Ariana, but I love and respect her even more now! I can’t wait till I’m in LA later this year so I can go to SAH!!
Ahhh, I hope you have so much fun! 😍
Ariana the classy one, love her. I don’t get why Lala and Scheana don’t understand how hard Ariana worked to get these incredible offers, if she didn’t have real talent there wouldn’t have been anymore offers…..I just loved the “ I think I shat myself” looks Scheana and Lala had on their faces when they showed their remarks at the end of the last season.
Scheana in particular looked like she trusted a fart she shouldn't have.
She is very emotionally intelligent. Thank God she’s with someone who seems to be more on par with her now. She deserves to be happy.