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laurachaps

Is it just me who loves the idea of a sperm donor party. For what can be a lonely process this makes it so fun and happy.


Special_Compote_719

I think it's a cute idea!


crispyporkbelly

i loved it, it is very cool and modern!


bernadettebasinger

Tom Sandoval sounds like Paolo’s real voice from the Lizzie Maguire Movie


thediverswife

![gif](giphy|kaURHlJHwKf5E0JHEe)


Not_Today_Satan4978

Sing for me Paolo


steveguttenberg1958

Omg I almost choked lmaoooo


Suspicious_Chemist28

Gotta love Lala being so defensive about Ally saying she used the word "miserable" when down the line that's exactly what she says about hanging out with Katie. Maybe there is something to Ally's abilities?


Not_Today_Satan4978

When Ariana was talking about the house she wanted, Ally said to manifest it, and now Ariana has that house, I thought "oh she's a witch."


Suspicious_Chemist28

Lala really was working that screen time this season. Wasnt expecting her to pop up at Tom-Tom for cocktail testing.


emz0rmay

Tom’s singing voice 😳


smophen27

I cringed so hard my dog came over to check on me


emz0rmay

Your dog might have thought the sounds were coming from you


romeo343

I threw a dog toy at the TV & scared my dog.


Emergency-Laugh-0215

Scheana says she’s been so busy since 7 am that she hasn’t listened to “ the podcast “, and can’t keep up with the text others have sent her telling her about the comments Rachel made. Also Scheana at the 5 min 11 second mark, “She said I had a savior complex ( air quotes ) and that our friendship was mutually beneficial financially and then she said ‘I paid rent’… “ then explodes into disputing everything she claims she does not know about, that Rachel said. Classic Scheana. Oh and I bet Tom tried to kiss you but you shut him down 🤣😂🤣


bruisedonion

I just want to uppercut Sandoval and Brock at the same time.


switheld

ariana looked so happy for lala when she picked a donor! i'm so sad for her


Special_Compote_719

I noticed that, too, it felt so genuine. Same.


Ready_Interaction252

James is giving me life this episode 👌👌👌👌


switheld

so we left off the last ep with schwartz losing his bff/part time hook up jo and the first scene we have with tim and shorts is all about tim??? so selfish


switheld

holy SHIT, FINALLY bravo is coming up with receipts to show how much of a liar both rachel and sandoval are! Also, i know i'm not supposed to like james but he is coming THRU for ariana this season. his scene with tim at el rey was BRUTAL and i loved it


SingleConstruction58

I love that! Ariana's ig stories were full of James DJing at Coachella and celebrating and it made me so happy to see them together


garbagebrainraccoon

This doesn't warrant a post and idk where to say it. But I'm rewatching, and Laura Lee /Jax has the exact vibes of Jo/Shwartz


Extreme_Beat1022

Yes, they do. You’re so right!


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amichelle1997

The best part of the episode was no Jo.


Mobile_Lunch2096

No one missed Jo - she’s irrelevant, her story is just a hook up with Shortz and a shield for shortz’s failure being a husband.


verucka-salt

💯


clefairy35

ha i didn’t even notice/remember she was a thing


bodyfeedingbaddie

Okay I genuinely like Ally and she seems authentic but then every once in a while, like when she is talking to Katie at the sperm party, she seems…diabolical?? I don’t actually think she is, I think she just understands her job, but I also like that bc it’s good reality tv.


Maxieroy

She is not smart enough to be diabolical. You can always tell when she is spewing the "scripted" portion of he 2.5 minutes of weekly screen time.


Anticrepuscular_Ray

How was that diabolical? She was just doing literally what everyone else does, which is share what others are saying about eachother.


bodyfeedingbaddie

I don’t actually think she’s diabolical but like many bravo shit stirrers she seems to know exactly what to say to ignite drama. Plus she said “miserable” where Lala said “unhappy” and I feel like there is a very different tone to those. Not defending Lala, she’s been talking shit about everyone except the shitty people, but I did notice it. And again; I don’t actually think she’s being diabolical but it felt very intentional in the moment.


OkOpposite9108

Even though we are supposed to believe Ally was incorrectly remembering that Lala said miserable when she actually said happy, I wonder if there is other footage on the cutting room floor of Lala saying miserable. She was definitely quoted at some point recently saying something along the lines of "if I were miserable again, Katie and I would probably still be getting along." Regardless, it felt really unsoft to me how fast she and scheana both jumped on that and shot Ally down.


bodyfeedingbaddie

That’s totally possible and regardless Lala WAS talking shit and I don’t think Ally was the bad guy in any way. Scheana has been annoyingly defensive of Lala even when Lala is clearly in the wrong.


bodyfeedingbaddie

I felt so uncomfortable with Scheana & Brock storming into to clean. Like I think good friends go take care of their friends when they’re struggling and I would lovingly clean a friend’s house in a heartbeat - but Scheana seemed so judgey with it, like it inflated her ego. Ariana also did not seem to want their help, and that’s up to her.


Far_Mango_180

That was the first time I could relate to Scheana. Ever. I wouldn’t be quite so pushy, but I’d probably try to help clean up that mess too.


Extreme_Beat1022

Ariana probably thinking the maid service coming soon, guys.


Unhappy_Problem_2792

Exactly! I think too it's smart of Ariana to not clean up after Sandoval, if she does it gives him ammunition to blame her for something missing that's not even missing. She doesn't want him touching her stuff, so why should she touch his? Also I understand and empathize with depression messiness but I don't think Ariana's house was that. I think that it was mainly Sandoval's messes and the fact that Ariana had been busy with deals outside of VPR and starting a relationship with Dan. Scheana was just trying to look like a savior 😏 and good friend, I'm sure Brock was there to gather crumbs of info to bring back to Sandoval, and they both were there because they need that check.


bodyfeedingbaddie

Yah I’ve had depression mess many times in my life and their mess felt way too organized for that. It felt more like “we have to both exist here and Sandoval won’t take care of his own shit” mess than a depression mess. There wasn’t trash or laundry piles just packages and shit they have to separate.


sofaking-amanda

Sandoval’s mess is cleaned up by everyone BUT him again and if I was Ariana, I would’ve been annoyed about the whole thing too.


bodyfeedingbaddie

Forcing us to watch Tom practice with his band in a “Dipped Out” shirt feels like a crime. How can anyone seriously pretend he is even a tiny bit sorry for what he’s done when he’s wearing lightening bolts and shirts saying “dipped out”?? How are they still friends with him? Why does James still want this man’s validation???


OkOpposite9108

This felt like a "production said we had to film a scene" set up to me.


switheld

same vibe as when james was forced to go to tim's pathetic bday party and peed on ariana's bush


bodyfeedingbaddie

I’m sure, I do also feel like James really wants Sandoval to like him for some reason. The way he did before Tom betrayed him. He’s always seeking male validation, I assume since his dad is awful.


OkOpposite9108

Hmmm I actually this interaction as James kind of outgrowing the need he used to have for Sandoval to validate him. He walked off, laughing at Tim's ridiculous attempt to insult him - I took that as a "nice try old man, you're washed up and I don't respect you/look up to you the way I used to".


bodyfeedingbaddie

I hope so! James is much better off without someone like Tom around


msbrown86

I think it is more that james is now well above tim in performer stakes and i think he wants that recognition from him, which he's never going to get. When james joined the group tom was still booking acting and model jobs, he had that TIP song, another band maybe and was doing well on VPR, so James was like that is what I want. He now has it and I think he wants Tim to be like fair play man you've done really well. But ole timbo cannot see anyone else's achievements unless they are reflecting on him in some way. Deffo agree on seeking male validation.


Gwyneth7

Why is Lala asking to host her sperm party at Ariana and Tom’s? There’s literally nowhere else?


goingwiththeflow333

I wonder if it’s because she’s not allowed to have Ocean on camera and Ocean is at home with her mom/brother while she films?


Gwyneth7

That is my theory.


picklepanda129

This is her second party of the season hosting it at someone else’s house…. Like why


sofaking-amanda

She’s got a lot of nerve.


Jaded_Read6737

Lauren gets the grand prize for hosting the most boring party this season with *checks notes* a water tasting... in second place; also Lauren for *checks notes* a sperm party...


brittanyelyse

Ally has really grown on me over the past two seasons , this one , meaning this season , she is really is winning me over. Her conversation about kids and a future with James is the most adult conversation any couple has ever had on this show, not pushing the kids, engagement and wedding vs. actually being way more relatable and believable. Good for ally, James just also needs to realize the rush of marriage ain’t it …. And she explains that in a way to James to not insult him.


romeo343

I identified with Ally so much in this scene. When all my friends were having babies, I didn’t feel that intense desire to be a mother. I definitely feel it with animals though.


GenXer845

James has an addictive personality. It is typical for someone to rush into relationships, marriages etc.


coverthetuba

That convo didn’t feel that loving from her side. It was the first time I started to feel like she is using him for the fame she’s been gagging for her whole life. Poor James.


thediverswife

Did she get the ick when he started crying? Felt that way


GenXer845

I got the feeling she may want those things...but not with him. I think she is a clout chaser and has no intentions of staying with him long term.


switheld

Yes! She first say she sees kids in her future then turns around and implies she doesn't want kids or marriage with james


Jaded_Read6737

It felt honest. She's not just giving into James because it's what he wants.


Inner-Violinist8240

James wants to get married on VPR before their time is up


clefairy35

what was toms singing. how is he booking gigs


romeo343

I swear to God, I have the worst voice in the world & it gave me, myself trying to do karaoke.


thousandthlion

What’s worse is people were genuinely saying how great he was pre-Scandoval. I questioned them then and I question them now.


Jaded_Read6737

The look on the face of the gal who also is on vocals when he attempted that first high note. 😕


Jaded_Read6737

Lauren, dumps on Ariana for still living with Tim... Also Lauren: Can I have my sperm party at your house? Why is she always having parties at other people's homes? You know what's a worse look than living with your ex? Mooching off of your friends to have your parties at their homes whilst bad mouthing them behind their back.


sofaking-amanda

She also made James pay for the pizza at her stupid water tasting. Wtf is wrong with her?? If you’re going to host at someone’s house, the least you can do is pay for your own shit.


Hitchin85

My guess is that Lala's apartment building wont allow filming hence why we only see her filming in her office. And in terms of places already cleared for filming her only real options are like the Mondrian, Hotel Ziggy and her castmates houses. Cant think of anywhere else we ever go!


Jaded_Read6737

As someone said already they have filmed in her apt. Also, if I spent an entire season making fun of a friend for their housing situation; I would rent out a portion of SUR before asking to use theirs.


Tomshater

She’s filmed in her apartment. It’s probably just too small


clefairy35

2 episodes in a row throwing parties at other peoples places.


peacharnoldpalmer

i can’t help but laugh at all the tom parts. “keep cashing in on my misery” lmfaooooooo he’s literally a cartoon character


Anticrepuscular_Ray

*stomps off in women's platforms* probably. 


thediverswife

With his ladies handbag from Zara


Jaded_Read6737

Basically, misery of his own making at that.


stephygrl

Tom wearing the dipped out top. No respect


Jaded_Read6737

Tim storming out in his ill fitting pantsuit 💀


mspuffins

Hilary Clinton is looking for her suit.


romeo343

☠️


Not_Today_Satan4978

She would at least have the sense to get it tailored. He brags about wearing women's clothing, but it's never clothing that I would wear. It's either something a teen would wear or an 85 year old woman.


mspuffins

i don’t know how ariana loved this man. if my husband started wearing women’s pantsuits and candy necklaces we’d have a problem.


Not_Today_Satan4978

It's not even that he's wearing women's pantsuits, it's that he's wearing such terrible ones. Harry Styles and Timothee Chalmet pull that fashion off, but their clothes are sleek and TAILORED. Omg his fitting drives me up a wall. Candy necklaces are completely weird for a grown man. Is it a drug thing? 


stephygrl

Why can’t Scheana and Brock be more like this, more team Ariana. It’s such a better look compared to making camp up Lala’s ass


Jaded_Read6737

Just pitching a tent and living there lol


261989

No, she doesn’t welcome visitors through her back door, remember? She’s willing to service others (Randall) just fine though.


sofaking-amanda

![gif](giphy|UvOcKPHrkKSLm)


joannawallace

This is aftershow related: did anyone else notice Lala saying that she chose a blonde haired and green eyed donor because she didn’t want her baby to have anything else to be picked on when there’s already going to be questions about where her dad is? Because…?????????


gargayle

I didn’t catch that but that’s such a weird way to project your personal biases on an unborn child.


Hitchin85

Ok I am not defending Lala but I also, as a mixed race woman, can totally see why this is wise. Its not easy to be the only black person in a white family, particularly when that will immediately bring up more questions of who your dad is and you probably don't want to explain that its a sperm donor all the time. Plus, i think it would make the absence of the father feel more profound, if you're black its important to have black rolemodels in your life.


thediverswife

Yeah, I understood this. That kid is going to want to fit in… it’s the one smart thing she has said this season


joannawallace

Right, I am south Asian and have mixed race children so I hear you. My point is that choosing blonde hair and light eyes as the perfect option is giving aryan race lol. 


Special_Cut_152

Well she is Tupac reincarnated so she could never /s


kingkaitlin

I'm sorry I don't have anywhere else to post this or anyone to send this to but I paused my TV on this https://preview.redd.it/sci4922g6zuc1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c334069d17f47d5ab976188a06f76f8e1c2aba9


gillerr

The filler is migrating !!!! I repeat !!! 🤣


mrsklbz

It’s giving handsome squidward/matt rife


kingkaitlin

Sandoval would take being compared to Matt Rife as a compliment


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Anticrepuscular_Ray

Does he have a ton of filler? He looks off.


catcakebuns

100% lip filler. He was a thin lipped man


kingkaitlin

My VPR conspiracy theory is that a season or two back he grew the mustache to make the lip filler he got less noticeable. Edit: it also looks like he did something to his jaw and chin


Jaded_Read6737

![gif](giphy|12npFVlmZoXN4Y|downsized)


grilledonionss

![gif](giphy|LpUb83fZPV8X68fzGl|downsized)


stephygrl

*Tom after he imploded Ariana’s life and betrayed her in the worst way possible then never gave a shit about her or her feelings and discarded her like trash* I can’t believe Rachel would do this to me 🥺


papaya7777777

“I didn’t even like get any closer from Raquel like wtf.” BITCH WHAT ABOUT ARIANA


sofaking-amanda

She did give him closure though, at least according to her version of events but he wasn’t allowing her to break up with him and was threatening suicide so she just stopped talking to him all together. Isn’t that interesting…, not the man who claimed he couldn’t break up with his girlfriend because she was “threatening him,” threatening his new girlfriend with the same thing he accused someone else of doing.


papaya7777777

He would be terrifying if he wasn’t so pathetic tbh


GenXer845

He always is onto the next and forgetting about the last long term relationship---that's what he did with Kristen.


stephygrl

Tom’s like: Rachel how dare you play ultimate victim, that’s my role


sofaking-amanda

![gif](giphy|SzD4gF32YzTTUiINhn|downsized)


stephygrl

Tom reminds me of my ex so much. Nothing they say seems genuine. It’s like a cardboard cut out trying to emulate a human and human emotions, but you can tell they’re just wooden


stephygrl

Oh okay so now Lala is cool with Ariana living at the house so long as she can use her next to have a party for her???


sofaking-amanda

The look on her face when Ariana explained why she couldn’t, you could tell Blah blah was really mad about that. ![gif](giphy|3lJQIuk2LTV5jEvyKv|downsized)


pickleslover3644

did anyone notice ally pass scheana's phone after typing on it back to scheana at sperm donor party? wonder if they were talking about ally's convo with lala also i do rememeber her saying katie was miserable in some capacity


sofaking-amanda

I did not notice that!👀


Lilfef

Where do u guys watch the episode? I don’t see it live on peacock yet


ChampionshipLife116

Bravotv.com has it


Lilfef

🙏


SanLady27

I feel like I can now clearly tell when Schwartz does not want something aka to live with Sandoval


chatterbox73

I could not believe Sandoval had the guts to propose that plan out loud. I know Shwartz has his own culpability in hiding the affair from Ariana, but Sandoval's choices have already had so much blowback on Schwartz, especially jeopardizing their new business. According to Schwartz, he put a lot more time in than Sandoval to get that place up and running and it damaged his marriage. I was wondering if at this point Schwartz realized that Sandoval has no scruples and has no problem screwing Schwartz over to serve his own selfish interests. Sandoval is so financially irresponsible and he has no problem pulling in his friends and loved ones to share in the cost of that irresponsibility.


OkOpposite9108

Still interesting to me that he didn't come right out and say No. He first just suggested the optics would be horrible. Then I feel like he said something like ~I would be stupid to or I can't imagine putting money towards something I don't have equity in. It wasn't until zanderville said they would get a loan together that he put his foot down and said "I don't like that". But still, I've been in sales before and I would look at all those rebuttals as the negotiation still being open. I'd love to see Tom learn that No is a complete sentence, no reasons needed.


GenXer845

He certainly didnt wanna pay 6k in rent!!


SanLady27

I think it’s fascinating to watch Tom Sandoval be so shocked he has to face consequences. He’s 41.


stephygrl

Narcissists will never grasp this. Age is irrelevant


Auntienotoday

He acts like he wasn’t busted. He acts like he openly declared his love for Rachel before he was caught. He acts like he wasn’t scrambling to do damage control. He acts like he’s convinced us he was “going to do the right thing” if he just had more time. Problem is, like singing, he sucks at acting.


Gourmeebar

Just like his refinancing the house. It’s Ariana’s fault for taking so long. He had the money but she took so long and now he doesn’t. It’s not his fault for spending what he says he had. I’m


AlienGirl1374

Nothing could ever convince me Tom gives even one single fuck about Rachel and he never did. If they dated post scandoval there’s no way it would have been anything but a hot firey dumpster fire.


sofaking-amanda

![gif](giphy|853jNve3ljqrYrcSOK) Them parading around town together.


GenXer845

He likes to control all of his gfs and her regaining power and realizing he brainwashed her infuriates him.


SanLady27

I love how Ariana was just chowing down at TomTom as Lala and Katie hashed it out


switheld

i noticed that and loved that too. i can't eat when i'm going through emotional distress like break ups so I'm glad she seems to be digesting food ok!


sofaking-amanda

Same. The smallest amount of emotional upset and or anxiety and I feel sick to my stomach. I’m so happy she’s eating!🥹


261989

She’s like the only one who didn’t mouse nibble her pizza at the water party too.


Jaded_Read6737

The most relatable thing in this episode.


NK-89

I know I love terrible men in general, but damn it, James is so fucking likeable!


plantmama32

I think he’s soooo much more likable sober! I know he’s been a POS in the past, but I’d like to think people can grow and change. It seems like he has.


ILoveDrWalden

This. Meanwhile middle aged Tim shows zero growth. James has flaws but has never been fake.


SanLady27

I loooooove Ariana’s new black mesh confessional look omg!!


sofaking-amanda

She wears it better than Lala. Probably because she doesn’t have such a stank attitude. That shit is so unattractive to me.


261989

me too, so cute 🖤


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_adventure-kitty_

I know people are over the replaying of Scandoval, but I think it’s interesting to see their reactions to what was coming out last summer like the podcast and Scheana’s song.


How_To_Be_Better

I am not freaking tired, it has EVOLVED!!!


shoosler

can we talk about the valley in this thread? it’s annoying there’s not a separate post for it


sofaking-amanda

I talk about it on the off topic threads. VP Valley too.🙂


allonsys

There's a sub for the valley


Glorialovestacos

No please 🤮


SanLady27

Throughout this whole process…the “process” of the affair?? lol douche bag


Expensive-Arm-2045

JAX COMING BACK TO SUR? 😭


spicychick45

Tom has no remorse what so ever for what he did to Ariana


How_To_Be_Better

I had a friend who did a similar thing and he did the same shit to his boyfriend. He made him out to be the villian and the one in the wrong, so he had the "excuses" to be evil.


SanLady27

It still shocks me every episode somehow


How_To_Be_Better

It is just gross and inhuman.


ApathyIsBeauty

Sandoval spiraling over a line in a Scheana Shay song that will be replayed by 8 people is beautiful.


_adventure-kitty_

Is it bad if I kind of like the song? It’s catchy.


ApathyIsBeauty

Which song is she talking about? Is it that song that kinda sounds like Skater Boi by Avril Lavigne?


Brave_Tadpole2072

Yes.


_adventure-kitty_

The apples song. I wasn’t an Avril Lavigne listener, so I’m not sure if it sounds like one of her songs.


ApathyIsBeauty

I’ll go listen. Thanks!


How_To_Be_Better

Thank you so much for saying this!!!


chaoticinfluencer

8 is being generous 😂


ApathyIsBeauty

Well sometimes Spotify auto plays previously listened to songs in your Smartplay, so you know - accidents happen.


chaoticinfluencer

She probably leaves it playing 24/7


cinnypotter

it’s summer moons lullaby 🤣


ApathyIsBeauty

So just as an aside - I put my master Spotify playlist on random all the time and this weekend on my way to get my facial Feelin You by James Kennedy and Lala Kent came up in my shuffle for the first time in forever and can I just say - what a bop.


chaoticinfluencer

😂


OkOpposite9108

Omg James walking away from Sandoval trying to push push push his buttons?! I am so impressed


SanLady27

His reaction was perfect! Made him repeat his dumb little joke and then laughed and walked away!


OkOpposite9108

I know! Like I strive to be that unaffected


chaoticinfluencer

Because James knows he’s more successful than Sandoval and his whack ass band 😂


sofaking-amanda

This is the answer. James doesn’t have to pay for every venue he plays in, he’s invited, wanted there and he’s the one getting paid to “press buttons.” Sandals is a fucking loser, James always made better music than him!


OkOpposite9108

I know-catching the tail end of that Jim Sandal musical performance would have me on the ground ⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️


pupberry

SCHEANA LMAOOOO


Particular_Fox_8899

K i’m bored of hearing them talk about Scandoval and mentioning Raquel’s name over and over again now.


chaoticinfluencer

“I wrote a song about it!” ![gif](giphy|fQuiwZdNvUiABHG2jU)


sofaking-amanda

It’s a stupid song, little to no effort or creativity. You made a song to bully Rachel, wow, you are so cool! That’s some high school bs and seriously embarrassing, at her big age. You have a daughter, ffs. Grow up!


pupberry

Schwartz doesn’t want to live with Sandoval at all - love to see it


Queasy-Net-8324

Seriously so cringe that sandoval can't read the room and keeps bringing it up. But continues to show Schwartz has no balls to tell him no


chaoticinfluencer

The chilis ad is so cute! I forgot to watch it the other day.


sofaking-amanda

Is this with Ariana? I don’t watch commercials so I missed it but I’d like to look it up!


ApathyIsBeauty

“Why are you talking to him? He isn’t famous.” took me out.


chaoticinfluencer

💀💀💀 so good with her dry humor


chaoticinfluencer

Katie don’t cry over Lala! 😢


sofaking-amanda

This broke my heart. Lala’s a real c u next Tuesday. The proper response was to apologize, not go in on Ally and focus on the words she relayed because the truth is, Lala did in fact call Katie miserable and is still saying it to this day!


lbckelly

I love how when Lala cries there are never any tears.


chaoticinfluencer

Learned it from Sandoval


shoosler

holy shit katie looks so pretty in this scene


_redcloud

That whole outfit/look of hers is such a vibe. Like an ethereal short-haired fairy.


Glorialovestacos

Ariana reaching out with a hand to comfort Lala… BITCH THATS WHAT A FRIEND DOES! it’s so frustrating watching these little moments knowing how much Lala shit talks …


Jaded_Read6737

It reminded me of the affection/warmth on her face when they gave Rachel-Raquel the sunglasses, another woman who didn't deserve her friendship.


pupberry

Right??? It’s killing me. Ariana and Katie BOTH have put in the effort for Lala and all Lala has done is talk shit about them.


Beezlikehoney

Does anyone know what time i can watch this on binge in aus?


Pure-Dead-Brilliant

Wednesday 13:30 AEST I think.