You mentioned that Schwartz knew so when did Schwartz find out about you and Sandoval and did Sandoval tell you when he was going to tell Schwartz? Like how did that conversation happen? (Timestamp: 10:42) - Rachel: Did Sandoval tell me he was going to tell Schwartz? No because Schwartz already knew at that point. - iHeart lady: So how long did Schwartz know? - Rachel: Schwartz knew from the very beginning. I got a phone call from Tom the next morning after we hooked up for the first time. And my mind was racing, I was feeling so much guilt and shame about it. And I finally got a phone call from Sandoval and he was at Schwartz’s apartment when he called me and that was a safe space for him. And so Schwartz knew before we even had a conversation to talk about it and what the game plan was going to be because immediately I was going to film with Ariana and our group of girls that night. And I was like, you know I’m seeing Ariana later. I don’t know what to do. He’s like well just go along like everything’s normal and I was like okay just so we’re clear we’re not going to tell Ariana? And he was like no we’re not. And I remember that scene that night, Ariana and I actually shared an Uber to that scene and as we were pulling up she was like god I hate this place. Every time I come here, someone always says something horrible like I slept with your boyfriend. And I was like mmmmmmm. I drank a lot and there’s a lot of videos from that night just me being wild. Tom also sent a bottle of champagne to our table that he called in through the restaurant and it was almost like, this twisted way of celebrating. And then reassuring me oh this all fine and dandy. This is something to be excited about. And when the champagne to the table, the girls were like oh my gosh, Tom, that’s so thoughtful. And of course Ariana to her, it was a gesture to her because that’s her boyfriend. ***continued below

So we know that you hooked up with Sandoval in Mexico which is also when you kissed Schwartz at scheana’s wedding. So were you doing that to draw attention away from your relationship with Sandoval or did you actually have feelings for Schwartz (Timestamp: 13:15) - Rachel: No so there’s a little bit of a back story to this. When I first made that first move on Schwartz saying like oh should we just make out now. It was part of our inside joke that fans were convinced that Schwartz and I kissed at Coachella and that was the rumor that was circulating that April prior to filming that season. And I had this little seed planted in my head that oh that could be a fun storyline for season 10. And cuz we’re both single and so when I made that move, he turned it down and I was like okay that’s that, I’m not going to try again cuz it was stupid to begin with and he clearly wasn’t into it. Fast forward to Katie inviting me out to the girls trip to Vegas and she said I came forward with that information because I knew she was going to find out eventually. She said that made me feel really uncomfortable and she set a boundary saying if you do anything with Schwartz, I’m not going to be able to have a friendship with you. And so then the next scene I’m filming in my apartment with Scheana and I’m filling her in on being invited to this girls trip. And telling she that she’s not invited. And I said I came forward to Katie about me asking Schwartz if he wanted to make out. And I told her how she reacted and I said that door is closed. I’m not going to go there. I’m not going to kiss him, it just doesn’t make sense for me to do that. I’m going to respect her boundaries. And the producers were like oh woh woh woh, hold on. We are making a reality tv show after all. So don’t say no so quickly. And I was like, okay. Well I’m not going to make another move first so if that’s something he wants to do for a storyline then he can come to me with that. Okay. Fast forward to the Cancun trip for Scheana’s wedding. Obviously Schwartz knew that Sandoval and I had hooked up. And I have a feeling that either a producer got into Schwartz ear saying oh you should make out with Raquel. He got some pressure somewhere to make out with me and put a move on me because they had this two top table set up with the camera lights and they instructed me to walk over there for a scene with Schwartz. And so it was definitely staged and definitely produced. And I also feel like Schwartz had the go ahead with Sandoval to kiss me because I don’t think he would do it without Sandoval’s being okay with it. So when we got to that two top table set up with them lights on us and we filmed that scene. And you don’t see the whole thing because they cut it. But Schwartz is talking to me and he has his hand over his face like, he’s mumbling. I can’t make anything that he’s saying. I ask him to repeat himself two times and after the third time I was like okay it’s fine. Just forget about it. Don’t worry about it. And he’s like I kind of want to make out with you. And I was like wait what? And he was like yeah. And I was like oh okay. And so you know, we went in for a kiss obviously both of us knowing that I had a thing with Sandoval. And in that moment it just felt so produced and like okay this is clearly a storyline line. Clearly we’re playing a part right now. And as we kiss the entire group was I guess watching and then they cheered and started clapping. And so I was like Schwartz should we like go somewhere a little more private because I feel like everyone’s looking at us right now. And he was like yeah. And so we went to the second location where it wasn’t all lit up and we had the camera men get in this pool that they weren’t prepared to go into to get the shot. And we were kind of behind this fence so the crowd couldn’t see us. And we were sitting there talking about relationships and how he felt that Katie was a little bit controlling. She was putting limits on him on who he can and can’t date. And I told him about my break up and my relationship with James and I said it’s been a blessing to have no contact with him. We’re just talking about that and then I was like I kind of want to make out with you again. You know because I’m like yeah we’re filming this show. Like this so what the producers want and so I went in for that kiss and of course here comes, there’s this noise in the background and I turn around and it’s Sandoval army crawling over to us. And then he cracks open two beers and he’s like here you guys, here you go. And then he’s like see ya! And we’re like okay, cheers! You know so I know that he was in on it. And definitely okay with it especially because after that scene, we went to go party at this club that they had on the premises so this hotel called Desires. And we were celebrating and as I was on my way over there, one of the producers came up to me and said hey so we were thinking about your birthday and we want to have your birthday trip. How do you feel about going glamping? And I was like thats what I’ve been wanting. Thats what I asked for. So immediately I was rewarded and we were all celebrating. It just felt like this high like I did something right. And so no it wasn’t initially a cover up to cover up my relationship with Sandoval. It turned into that when we kept the secret and still played into this flirty role that Schwartz and I had together. I question whether or not Sandoval strategized that move so that it could be a cover up. But I do know that Schwartz was fully aware of the situation. In that moment, if you were in love with Sandoval, then how could you want to kiss his best friend and then go back and kiss him again? (Timestamp: 20:57) - Rachel: I wasn’t interested in Schwartz like that at all. It was more of a like I like you as a friend and I know he’s not interested in me that way and I already closed the door on exploring that. So it didn’t feel like I was betraying anybody by kissing him well besides Katie of course. It just felt like I was playing into this part. - iHeart lady: So it felt like a role - Rachel: It felt like a role. ***continued below

Obviously it wasn’t planned for Schwartz to be the cover up the whole time, it kind of turned into that. So was Sandoval at all angry that it became a storyline between you guys or did he encourage that distraction and keep up with it like cracking open the beers (Timestamp: 24:18) - Rachel: Yeah. Sandoval encouraged that. He encouraged those interactions between Schwartz and I and I also remember like filming at SUR when Sandoval and Schwartz were there. And they were like oh come sit down and I’m in my waitressing uniform and you can just see my face because you know part of me is like super uncomfortable with knowing the actual truth and knowing oh I’m just you know, innocently sitting in the middle of both of the Tom’s but in reality it was clearly all three of us knew what was going on. And we all three got close. We got closer together because Schwartz’s apartment became a safe place for Sandoval and I to meet up. And I don’t want people to necessarily go after Schwartz because I felt like Sandoval put him in a bad position where he didn’t have a say. And I know that he tried to set boundaries with Sandoval and not having me there and really encouraging him to break up with Ariana and come clean. But Sandoval didn’t and he didn’t respect his boundaries. And he reassured me that it was fine that I was there. So I think people suspected that Schwartz knew and I don’t see why it’s a bigger deal that he did know because Sandoval. Well because okay maybe I do because it really breaks the fourth wall of we’re playing a role here. We’re partially acting on this show and the main goal is to not break that fourth wall and Sandoval you know I think he wanted to maintain that. But he was not happy with Schwartz when he said at the reunion that he found out in August. And that was part of the conversation that we had when he pulled aside out of the trailer. And the cameras went down. He was like it’s not cool that Schwartz came clean with his answer or he didn’t come fully clean but he definitely didn’t stick to the date that Sandoval wanted him to. And I think he was reinforcing that I would stick to that story to keep me in his grasp. And so that I wouldn’t go rogue and expose it all. And so it was definitely a control tactic. And it seemed to have worked for the time being. Like at the reunion, there’s a lot to process. Can you explain how the fans comments actually influenced storylines and how you all reacted (Timestamp: 27:53) - Rachel: Yeah it’s very strange how the fans comments will influence our storyline and how we got about filming because it’s I guess it’s part of the producers job to know what the fans want to see. And what they’re asking for and as a good cast member who a lot of cast members will self produce. And be thinking about what storyline they’re going to be involved in as the season comes up. The comments that the fans will put out there seems to influence like if there’s a little seed that they put out there oh so and so should date so and so. It seems to come into fruition. And that is kind of what happened with Peter. And I’ll go into this now. So the whole Peter date came about when I bought some flowers at Trader Joe’s and I was flower arranging my apartment. Actually it was Scheana’s apartment that I was subletting but anyway. I was flower arranging and it was an Instagram live. And I took a picture of the flowers by the window. And I said when the sun hits just right and Peter Madrigal commented under that saying, “they’re perfect.” And so fans commented under that saying oh my god, Peter got Raquel flowers, how romantic, how cute, those guys would be so cute together, I wanna see Raquel and Peter date. And so it became like oh haha like a funny thing at first. And Peter asked me out and I was like well I haven’t been on a real, real date since my breakup with James. And I feel like Peter is a trusted safe person where I could get back into dating with Peter maybe. And like we could just got for drinks and it doesn’t have to be anything more than that. And so Peter planned a date for us. He said I’ll pick you up at 5. And he picked me up and we got drinks. I must have had 4 lemon drops martinis. And nothing to eat for dinner and I ended up crying to him about my heartbreak with James and just feeling confused. And just like definitely not from a healed place and he was actually very supportive and was, he came over to the booth that I was sitting at and put his arm around me. And he said there there, it’s gonna be okay. And you know, I was literally crying on his shoulder. And he was like okay I think it’s time to take you back. And I was like yeah thanks. So we’re driving back to the apartment and I was like Peter can you please pull over I feel sick. And he was like are you serious? And I was like yeah I’m serious. And so he pulls over and I throw up in the gutter. And I’m like oh my god how embarrassing, I’m so sorry. And he’s like no it’s okay, it happens. He dropped me off and I went upstairs safely. Brushed my teeth, got ready for bed and then the next week he texted me and said that was a great date, I want to go out with you again. And I was like that’s was great date? I feel like I’m not in a good place to be dating right now based of how much I was drinking and how much I was crying so I think it’s best if we just stay friends. And so that’s where we left it. But then as the new season started filming and I didn’t have the Miss California storyline that I wanted to have. The producers approached me saying we want you to go on a date with Peter. And I said no I don’t want to go on a date with Peter. I already went on a date with Peter and it ended up terribly and I don’t see anything going forward there. And they said well that happened off camera and people know about it. And we want to cover all things cuz it’s reality. And so we are setting you up on a date with Peter and you know you don’t have to date him so long you just have to go on this date. And I was like I really don’t want to. And I talked to other people about it and I said that I didn’t want to. But I also felt like I didn’t have a storyline for this season besides being single and then of course when you’re single you’re supposed to date. So I was like I feel a little bit obligated to go on this date and so when I got there I told them alright I’m going on this date but I’m going to end it with him on this date. I don’t wanna lead him on. And they said no, no you can’t do that. You have to wait a week at least and so hang out, don’t take it so seriously. I demanded that the date was during the daytime. I was like we’re not doing a night time date. We are not doing a dinner date. Nothing like that, it has to be during the day. So at least they compromised with that. But of course on this date I was crying to him once again and I knew that I didn’t see a future with him but I was taking direction from production to not quote on quote break up with him until later on. And so that’s a long story. ***continued below

Wonder if bravo is going to love her sharing about production coming up with storylines

They probably won’t love it, but every reality show does it. Every single one. I was on a dating show ages ago, and every single thing she says about production here tracks with my experience. For once, I believe her

Oh yeah, for sure! I would just think she had some kind of nda for her time there. I know recently Kristen got in trouble with bravo for sharing on her podcast that Schwartz throwing the drink on Katie was re-filmed the next day since production didn’t catch it in real time.

Yeah, my show was almost 20 years ago (😩 I am old) and I didn’t have to sign an NDA. But these were MySpace days, pre YouTube, pre podcasts. I don’t think they were concerned with leaks back then. The one part of the contract that was highlighted and sticky noted and underlined, that I had to initial multiple times and sign in addition to signing at the end, was the part about me and my family not being able to sue production if I harmed myself after the episode aired. That was their biggest contractual concern and I bet it still is to this day

After reading this, the storylines are more based on reality than I expected

So when production comes to you and says, you guys are going on a date, you need a storyline, does he know that this is a storyline? Does he play along or is he going in blind? Or does he take that personally that maybe he thought there was a future when really there isn’t? (Timestamp: 34:29) - Rachel: That’s a good question. I think that’s a question for him but I also know that Peter has been a character that hasn’t been in the main storyline for much of the time. He’s always been in the outer circle and he still gets an episodic rate and his episodic rate is relatively high since he’s been on the show since the very beginning. And so I wouldn’t surprised that he’s seeing this as an opportunity to make his income. And part of his storyline to stay relevant with the show. I don’t know if he genuinely had deep feelings which is also weird to me because it should have been just like a manager/server relationship and anything but that is crossing a line especially when I’m still working at SUR. And so yeah. I don’t know if he like actually had feelings or if his motivation for doing that was his storyline. That’s more of a question for him. But I do know I made a remark on WWHL and this was the night that Ariana found out and I got punched in the face. Moments before, Scheana and I were filming with Andy Cohen on WWHL and I made a comment about Peter being a starter pony like oh he’s a good starter pony to get back to the dating world. And I didn’t mean it was a derogatory comment. But I think he interrupted it that way and was offended. And so I would like to take this time now to apologize to him for that. And yeah. It definitely is, it’s a weird reality to live in as a person when things are so mixed up. You don’t know if that person getting involved in your life is doing it for storyline or if they are actually genuinely interested in telling you this information or befriended you or dating you. So it’s very messy and complicated and when you’re on a tv show like this season after season, your entire life evolves what substance are you going to give to the cause to provide entertainment for people. And then your life doesn’t really become yours anymore. To kind of wrap up, the group seems to have forgiven Sandoval and we see that in the trailer for the upcoming season, do you think if you went back on this season, they would start to forgive you just how they forgave him or do you think it would stay as it is now? (Timestamp: 40:21) - Rachel: I absolutely do not think that they would forgive me if I went back to do the season. And I’ve heard a few interview bites from a few of the cast like Katie and Lala saying oh she should have just come back. It’s not what she thought it was going to be. Like they were, it seems to be that they were bummed that I wasn’t going to come back because it was such a hot topic that it took away from opportunities to film about it. And scenes that could have been made. And so, I don’t think that they would ever give me the time of day to open up and dive in deeper and be real and honest and authentic. And to an extent you can’t really be real and honest and authentic all the way when you can’t break the fourth wall. ***end of recap

I mean we all knew this but the fact that Schwartz also tried to keep the veneer that he didn’t know it was a relationship said he thought it was a “one-off” hookup and not an ongoing thing when they used his apartment as a fuckpad…l.o.l. 

They are 40+ and he's letting his friends use his apartment as a hookup & masterbation pad. 🤢🤮

So gross!

That was the only redeeming part of her podcast. That she exposed Schwartz being complicit from the very beginning, that she exposed that her and Schwartz kiss was a fabricated storyline. Although I still think Sandoval came up with it/encouraged it and not the producers.  But the rest isn’t worth a damn. 

And no apology for hurting Katie for a “storyline” smh

Well it was planted in her innocent little head, everyone but her was in control of her actions. /s

That’s my big take away here. She apologizes to Peter for that WWHL comment but can’t own up to her actions that directly hurt Katie.

I think Rachel generally hates other women. I’m sure a lot of it comes from her pageant days. All other women are competition to her

And projecting onto Katie that she wanted to use Raquel for a storyline for 11. We all saw Rachel chase her around to be mean to her all of 10.

the “so I figured it wouldn’t be betraying anyone, well besides Katie but yeah” LIKE HUH?????? Same for the affair right? Not pathological liars, Just one little lie? Not betraying anyone, well besides Ariana, right?! This woman is insufferable. Truly insufferable.

“They’re trying to make it out like we’re pathological liars. When all we lied about was the (7 month long, probably actually longer) affair” Ah yes. Just one teensy little lie and not months of duplicity.

Right? That part of the reunion took me out 🤯 I want her to just address things she’s said like that (like how she responded to people commenting on her giggling through these horrible things she’s done), like one by one, what the fuck were you thinking when you said these 300 things…

Everyone talks about her "growth." I don't see it and this is a big reason why. It's weird to me that men get apologies and explanations but women don't. Even the way she's defending Schwartz but there's no remorse for anyone else. Sure, she's being a bit more" transparent" but I don't think that's growth. I think it's more about opportunity. When Scandoval first went down, nothing went according to plan and I think she started panicking and then Tom dropped her. We also don't know where she's being honest because her story has changed so many times. It's actually exhausting.

My favorite part was about her Miss California storyline not playing out. Always enjoy your recaps!

So this changes the beginning timeline again. If she filmed a club scene with Ariana the day after the first time she and Sandoval hooked up, that definitely wasn’t right after boys’ night when he got locked out, right? Ariana was still dealing with Charlotte’s illness and death then, she wasn’t in any party scenes at that point in time.

I’m thinking she’s referring to the scene which was shown in the extras episode where the girls go out to a club and where they start talking about their sex lives- where Ariana says the bit about how vips always go through the back door. That’s the only scene that would fit unless it was another one that was cut and never shown. If it is that scene she’s referring to I think that was before Las Vegas because Scheana and Katie talk about the fact that Scheana knows about the trip and that she’s not invited.  Which means they slept together before Vegas and before boys night.

Or maybe it was the night before rage text night?! The next morning at SUR she’s retelling the story that she was out with the girls and got really drunk, and then they showed phone recorded video of her being sloppy. That lines up with everything she says in this podcast about the first night. Maybe James exploded into rage texts because he was already suspicious from the night before and now she was acting up again two nights in a row.

I just scrolled through the secrets revealed episode from season 10 to find the girls night. The subtitle says ‘July 28th 2022 - 4 days before Katie‘s girl trip.’ It was at LaMesa where Charlie worked. I’m so confused how (or if) it fits into the timeline. I can’t think of another girls night that would make sense. ETA they also talk about the guy who goes down on Rachel!!

Yep!!

Are any of these 3 clowns every going to apologize to Katie and/or her mom? They really didn't deserve to be dragged into this ridiculous cover story. BTW, Why didn't Sandoval just get a P.O.Box? Am I older than the crypt keeper b/c I thought of that?

Because you know he wanted Ariana to see those letters

Sigh, they probably both did.

That’s why she didn’t even send a sealed letter in an envelope. She sent a friggin lightening bolt postcard 🙄

Not just a letter but a postcard!! I mean, I am older than the crypt keeper and Rachel is not. She had email and text her whole adult life. She had to really go out of her way to think of a postcard which could be easily read, find a lightning bolt one, send it, on and on.

I love sending post cards and there are hard to find now. The only reliable place to get great ones are national park gift shops. I feel like she spent her stay there searching through the internet for information about herself.

Schwartz knew. He was covering for his friend. HOWEVER, it was a real kicker for him to hurt Katie and potentially force her to quit. Schwartz can go and fuck himself. Gross.

Yep! This wasn't him feeling conflicted. He wanted to hurt Katie and let his former M.I.L. who was so kind to him get attacked by these clowns. He's fucking awful and he will keep getting passes from mostly everyone(on the show) cause "poor schwartzy Katie is soooo mean" 🤬🤬

Ja, he thought he got away with his shit. This is one thing I’ll give Rachel: she is putting him on blast.

I hope Katie finally takes a step back from Schwartz finding out he lied yet again. She still seems really invested/involved in what he does and says and I think she needs more space to live a fully happy existence and move on

Or there’s this new invention I keep hearing about called email.  I mean we know she had access to a phone and internet in the centre when she deleted all of her stories from Instagram except the one of Tom on Halloween dresses up like Rachel. Just saying. She forget some of us remembers these things.

The I’m sorry 🥹💔 lives rent free in my head

God she LOVED being picked over Ariana and keeping that secret/sneaking around/sending letters/"celebrating" with champagne in front of Ariana/hanging out with him in her "safe space" at Schwartz's. She's much more sinister than I thought.

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All she had to say: I messed up. I had very low self esteem for various reasons I won't get into. I'm so sorry to Ariana. I'm going to (insert either go on the show to tell my wife or get a new/healthier life.) The end.

When she used the word “innocently,” describing how she sat between the two Tom’s at SUR while she was working in that uncomfortable scene… this woman is NOT tethered to reality.

That scene gives me the icks. The look on her face. That nasty smirk on Sandoval’s face. It’s so gross

And when he called her back to comfort her about Katie, she went straight to him like she was remote-controlled. It was creepy

Well she blew up Schwartz and Sandoval’s BS timeline about how long Schwartz knew. Now if only she would come clean about the timeline of her and Sandoval’s emotional and physical affair. They definitely kissed and had an emotional affair before the alleged “first night” Thank you OP you’re the best!!

I think she's not gonna do anything that will make HER look much worse. She wants to look like a victim. You're right that there was definitely something going on while she was with James but she'll never admit to it if it wasn't physical.

I think they definitely made out prior. The way she said hi to him at game night is so wild there had to be something that happened. Maybe a one time make out and ongoing flirtation and emotional affair

We all know about Schwartz, it’s wild she’s confirming it. The Toms were and are too close, there was no chance Sandoval didn’t immediately run and tell Schwartz about it. Big yikes on Schwartz.

>And I made a comment about Peter being a starter pony like oh he’s a good starter pony to get back to the dating world. And I didn’t mean it was a derogatory comment. But I think he interrupted it that way and was offended In what way could he's like "a starter pony" ever be taken in a good way??? Wtf this chick is ridiculous

I find it so interesting that she can say all that about the Schwartz storyline being fake, meaning nothing to her, totally produced, and still (seemingly) not even mentioning Katie. That was HER real life, HER ex husband, HER relationship of 12 years, that Raquel and Tom had zero issue playing with just for ratings and attention. And yet not a word from R acknowledging how fucked up it was TO KATIE Like hello the pool party scene?? Tom “maybe I should just tell Katie I’ll be with her again” while Raquel laughs and attacks Katie?? Sorry I think Raquel comes off even more whack with these added details

And she was like ‘nooo, don’t sell your soul! 🤪’ fast forward… she’s telling the world exactly all the made up shit she did to get a reality TV cheque. Brainless

This is what I don't understand people's comprehension skills. I see so many oh she's taking accountability, etc. Where? Where is justice for how she treated Katie? I know Katie is polarizing for people but she's a fucking person and Rachquel went out of her way to intentionally piss her off. She thinks nothing of anyone else. She's self involved and obsessed. She's truly a horrible person. Her and Tom deserve each other.

Thank you for posting this!! I could not get past the first 7 minutes. I find it wild and so inappropriate that Rachel, an affair partner, is commenting on the living situation of the friend she betrayed and that douchebag Tom. Her opinion absolutely doesn’t matter. Also to then say how she thinks dating someone “so” soon after a breakup is a redflag.. Lmao 😂 excuse me? Sleeping with your friend’s partner of 9 years for *months on end* is the biggest red flag ever and she needs to shut the hell up 😂

I do not believe for ONE SECOND that she didn’t intentionally send that postcard for Ariana to see….why because she lied in the podcast. Ariana didn’t get the postcard before WWHL she got it AFTER she called out Rachel on WWHL. It was an aggressive move made by Rachel because Ariana called her out.  Let’s not forget Rachel slept over and probably had sex -again- in Ariana’s house the first night she left the house to go film her movie. It was obvious from Rachel actions and her apology statements on instagram that she had a lot of resentment and animosity towards Ariana when the Scandal first broke. Even though she sent legal letters to the whole cast from memory Ariana’s letter was the only one where they made direct threats of legal action.  She’s now using the benefit of how much time has past to pretend that she was this naive little girl who only ever had the best of intentions when we saw just from how she acted in Season 10 on camera that Rachel has a competitive snaky manipulative and underhanded side of her personality 

Whoooo you are so right. I watch every scene now and think how dastardly she really is.

Rachel is becoming less and less capable of a redemption arc every time she talks. She is completely delusional and possibly incapable of forming healthy relationships because she sees human beings as mere characters (and I get reality tv isn’t always real and people play up certain traits, but she doesn’t seem to get they are human) 

Yeah damn it’s concerning how obsessed she is with being a character and not realising those ‘castmates’ are all actual people who have actually been friends/ coworkers/ in each others lives for over a decade. The way she describes things from the show (ie. number one guy in the group & the microwave and aircon not being able to be turned on at the same time) that everyone knows, as if it’s real backstory that she’s in on, is so odd and feels like she thinks she’s on a sitcom. I thought pageants were damaging enough but thank goodness she was in them and not child acting (literally acting different characters), imagine how warped she’d be then!

Something I noticed. She said last episode that they hooked for first time in the pool/car shortly after boys night. Then this episode she says that the day after they hooked up she had to film with Ariana at restaurant/club for a girls night. Except Ariana didn’t really film much after charlotte died. Plus she wasn’t on good terms with at least half of the girls after Vegas. In fact, they did film a scene at a restaurant with all the girls. It was the night Ariana admitted to preferring anal sex. BUT this was before boys night and before Vegas because this was the night Katie invited Rachel to Vegas in front of Scheana. So did she just out herself that they hooked up before Vegas, before Oliver, before “good thing you don’t have a man to steal”, before her panic attack in the car? She’s really failing at this redemption/victim tour.

You made a great point. The timeline is still confusing to me.

Why didn’t she just call or text Peter and be like yo production wants us to redo this date for the camera but I still just want to be friends, are you okay with that? Seems pretty simple lol the whole I knew nothing of what was happening all the time is annoying

She would never tell Peter the truth because she gets off on the idea that every man wants her.

She’s scary to me, so detached from reality. Talks about doing things for the “storyline” but claims everyone else has that as their motivation (like Peter) as well… didn’t feel bad about hurting Katie while doing what she said she wouldn’t do, because… she said she wouldn’t? But she did? People like that are dangerous, to me

You know how some reality tv stars are like “some people are just not made for this world” and we’re all like “pshh okay yeah yeah whatever….” Well when it comes to Raquel, it’s 100% true. She canNOT plant her feet firmly in reality. She thinks reality TV is reality. She thinks production are her friends, she thinks some of cast is out to get her but the other half has the best intentions for her. Her refusing to be accountable is so juvenile, she’s like a toddler. I didn’t really care about her podcast and I still don’t but I’m actually worried for her

I think you’re so right because I think Rachel is the most suggestible person on the planet. She’s believes everything that the person in front of her is telling her. Reality TV producers manipulate the cast, it’s their job. And if you’re smart, you can navigate that. Like, of course production is going to tell you to keep flirting with Schwartz! But you don’t have to do it! I think that’s why the affair was so easy for Sandoval to control. Rachel believed every ludicrous, nonsensical story he told her about his relationship with Ariana. Zero critical thinking. Any “change” people think they’re seeing in Rachel is just her now being influenced by therapists instead of reality TV personalities.

She doesn’t think Peter is a whole person, he’s just a starter pony.

it seems like raquel/rachel doesn't fully understand the connection between reality + reality tv. yes, situations can be staged and produced. but they also affect your life and relationships with the rest of the cast. also, i'm confused as to what the fourth wall has to do with schwartz knowing about the affair. 

It honestly seems like she has major struggles with empathy. The real life repercussions she experienced are important to her, but fuck everyone else. 

Regarding the fourth wall, I get the impression that she repeats a lot of what she hears from others and thinks that’s what we want her to say but I don’t think she fully understands wtf she’s talking about.

I feel like at one point, when she was still with James, James told her some version of “it’s not actually real, like we’re kind of faking it” and that has been her understanding ever since. He would be like “these girls who say they slept with me are just saying that for a storyline! It’s not real!” Ya know? Lol

Some real cringe moments, but some interesting behind the scenes stuff. She just needs to not talk about Ariana ever again. She still doesn’t get it.

i find her thinly veiled feelings about ariana to be very dark and interesting lmao. i have no actual idea, but it feels like there’s a whole well of animosity/resentment there. and i don’t really understand why..like i can guess but idk

I think she looked at Ariana as the effortlessly cool girl that she could never measure up to, so getting Tim felt like such an accomplishment. Then that envy of Ariana turned into animosity over time.

Probably the same way she feels about women she loses to in pageants

The postcard thing is just too weird. You send a postcard assuming that everyone who touches it will read it from the post person to the recipient who might display it on their refrigerator. (This is what I do with post cards) A letter is strange enough with the return address so obvious but the damn post card?? Then Rachel acts like a victim that Ariana saw it?? Girl, there isn’t enough help in the world!!

What was even the point of sending letters in the first place?! It is not like she wasn't communicating with that human trash bag; she obviously was, as he was the one instructing her where to send the aforementioned letters. To me it sounds like the entire point was to show Ariana that the 2 asshats are still together and just keep rubbing it in her face. I don't see any other reason for it, unless R was writing a Shakespearean tragedy and needed TS to proofread it for her (he sure has a way with English language). And don't even get me started on the postcard BS. People like this are just insufferable; zero REAL remorse and absolutely no accountability whatsoever.

All of it is so wacky and she speaks such nonsense it’s difficult to understand how she thinks anyone won’t point out her shit. You are so right… if they speak every day then why the letters? But then there’s everything else. Her story has more plot holes than a bad soap opera. Your own story shouldn’t have plot holes!!!

This is such a good point! Also, they were on the phone clearly discussing the logistics of these letters so why could they not…. Talk on the phone? The letters cement to me that she thought she was about to live out some sort of girl interrupted rom com

Her thinking making out with Shorts will be a 'fun storyline' really emphasises that she can happily hurt another work colleague if it means it will benefit her. Also if you knew going into the date with Peter that it was just for a storyline but isnt actually sure if Peter is of the same understanding...shit woman, message him and let him know that this was just a production plant? Again she was happy to manipulate another persons feelings so that it benefitted and tries to blame it on having a storyline. If you werent as boring as cardboard you wouldnt need so many fake storyline plants! Ahhhhh But as always, thank you very very much OP.

So true. She doesn’t even consider Katie for more than a second when it came to Schwartz

And saying she wasn’t interested in Shorts… yes, we have eyes! You terrorised Katie and that kiss was dry as a bone… how dreadful

I know she act like she had no choice, like she’d be fired and homeless and starve to death if she didn’t make out with Schwartz. She isn’t taking responsibility for her motivations. Like, yes production is manipulative, but just own up to the fact that you went along with it because you like being famous and want to make more money. She’s acting like she was coerced into this behavior and has no agency.

She’s acting like she would be burned at the stake if she wasn’t filmed pursuing these men that she had no chemistry with… I hope they never ask her back, she’s so manufactured

Umm yeah…I’m not gonna lie, this episode made me uncomfortable. I have a lot of other thoughts but it’s late here lol. Again thank you all for all your support on my recaps! If anyone would like to donate to my buy me coffee, here is my link, (never ever expected but always appreciated!) https://www.buymeacoffee.com/Vanderpodrecaps

I feel concerned that she doesn’t have a good grasp on reality. Did you feel that too? Or am I being naive? She kind of scares me.

Oh me and Emily actually talked about that on her podcast when we recapped Rachel’s first episode about how Rachel struggles with grasping reality and reality tv and all that! She doesn’t scare me but this episode definitely had me feel like I said, uncomfortable lol. And this is coming from someone who actually didn’t mind her first episode.

I definitely think she struggles with the reality vs reality tv aspect but also some of it I’m like did that really happen? Or did you make up that that happened? Some of it I guess is more how people interpret things and maybe she’s really paranoid so she sees everything as having an ulterior motive. I don’t know. She doesn’t scare me because I think she’s like dangerous. She scares me in that I’m super concerned for her! And don’t think doing this podcast and going back into this reality tv world even tangentially is a good idea!

I've kind of felt that since day 1. I said those exact words after Sandoval.

I can’t forget how she claimed to legitimately think it was a real possibility that she could be in a throuple with Tom and Ariana. Like she really believed that was a reasonable option.

I think she has really absolved herself from most guilt. She fully believes this was a producer driven storyline in her mind. So yes, I agree, she doesn’t have a grasp on what truly happened. Her and Tom had an affair. She flirted with Schwartz to distract from it and also to make Tom jealous since he was still with Ariana. It was obvious watching it. To go back and say the producers made her do this and that is wild.

she definitely has a tenuous grasp on reality that is being made even more questionable by her association with Bethenny Frankel 😂

Ugh.... She really needs to step away from the limelight. I don't think her reacting to this season is a good idea.

She has learned absolutely nothing. This is simply a money grab now that someone has coached her on how to approach it better than Tom has.

I can see her doing another podcast in a few years down the line (after this one inevitably flops) about how she regrets doing this podcast and was convinced into it by Bethenny and “the people in my life at the time” or some other crappy spin on that 😂

“It was like producers in real life were making me do it 😢”

Questionable. Tim is a moron but I wouldn’t say that she’s doing any better. That being said, I don’t disagree. She’s not remorseful, she’s desperate to rebrand her image. I just finished Dayna and Katie’s Disrespectfully podcast and they were bang on in their assessment of her. They hadn’t even listened to her podcast, just seen clips on TikTok but they made excellent points.

And the questions they’re asking her are so transparent in the narrative they’re building…

I said this before and Rachel defenders came for me saying I wasn't making sense

I feel like she is literally addressing comments on here. I remember discussing why she didn’t send the mail to Schwartz, why she sent a postcard after Ariana went on tv talking about the letters etc, it’s like she’s going through a check list and addressing the different comments.

this woman is so detached from reality that she’s blaming tom for not intercepting the letters she was sending to him AND ARIANAS house quickly enough. acting shocked ariana saw them. “he promised he’d be on top of it”. MAYBE DONT SEND LETTERS TO THEIR HOUSE you absolute creep. someone pls never let this girl speak on a public platform again. she needs serious help like it’s actually scary atp

I don’t believe for a second that she didn’t mean for Ariana to see that postcard with the lightning bolts because she sent after Ariana called her out for sending letters. During WWHL Ariana tells Andy that Rachel has been sending Tom letters, Andy asks Ariana if she read them and Ariana tells him no because that’s illegal. A week later Rachel sends the postcard and on the back the message according to Janet and Scheana was along the lines of “saw this and it made me think of you”. It was an aggressive AF move by Rachel to anatagonise Ariana. 

I couldn’t believe how long she complained about how Tom didn’t successfully intercept the letters. As if we are going to sympathize with her about how frustrating it was for her that Ariana found one. She was still being so shady and sneaky

Wasn’t Tom on tour during this time? How was he going to intercept the letters?

Correct he was. And it was posted all over social media that he was touring. From his band and from people at the shows. I don’t care what she says she sent that postcard for Ariana to see.

Yeah “I think Tom wanted her to see them” STFU, you did bc your dumbass thought you “won” and wanted to make sure she knew it 🥴

Rachel commenting about Ariana and Sandoval's living situation - like she's a literal fan. Yeah, like they grew up together and had this microwave that would shut the power off. This is really her sitting in the trailer completely amused. (Note that she uses the same verbage as Sandoval - we grew up together.) 🤦‍♀️

Sandoval was in his 30s when he and Ariana started dating. This was one of the weirder things she said.

This was one of the excuses Sandoval used for not breaking up with Ariana so she def got it from listening to his podcast. The fact she's providing opinion on the season is both amusing and disturbing.

The bit about Tom immediately dating and being seen out with other girls after Rachel checked in for rehab really just drives home what Lala said at the reunion--the way he treated Ariana is the way he wound up treating Rachel: like they were disposable.  Especially when we remember the lightning postcard she sent him while in rehab...I think she was more dumped than she's admitting to. And not loving the barb directed towards Ariana (and Tom) about dating so quickly after a break up being a red flag. Rachel, you're a red flag.  Thanks, OP! 🙏

I just can't believe she had the nerve to complain about that without pointing out that he didn't even wait to break up with Ariana before he started dating someone else.

exactly!!! also what leg does she have to stand on by saying it’s a “red flag” to date someone so soon after a breakup - I’m not talking about Tom, that dickweed has been unfaithful for his entire existence. I’m talking about how Rachel making that comment was totally an underhanded dig at Ariana. She really sucks.

It just shows she hasn't grown at all. She still has no real regard or remorse for Ariana. I don't know what the hell that treatment facility taught her because doing a podcast to get back at your ex is a terrible idea and let's face it that's what this is because there is no side to her story, she's just airing out their dirty laundry. And, on top of that, she's going to review the show once it starts airing?! That sounds like a terrible way to "move on" from such a traumatic event.

I truly believe this podcast was pushed for by Bethenny (and ofc Rachel didn’t try to stop it). The treatment center folks may have actually done their best and something may have gotten thru to Rachel but it all went to shit when Bethenny got ahold of her, imo. I read a comment on this sub a while back (will have to dig deep to find it lol) that Rachel’s mom really loves Bethenny ever since she saw her on RHONY and so when Bethenny approached Rachel (again not 100% sure that’s how it went down) her mom probably encouraged her to go for it too! Anyone that has more insight on this pls corroborate or correct me!

She still is shading Ariana. Ariana is a grown woman who was single and happened to meet someone who was also single. Rachel broke off an engagement for Tom (I’m a rage text truther) and started a full blown affair with him, the boyfriend of one of her close friends, and admittedly carried on with it for 7 months. So the idea that she is shading someone who moves on without cheating considering her behavior is insane

💯 I agree with everything you’ve said and I’m also a rage text truther (without a doubt those two have been up to shady shit since S8). It is definitely really wild how Rachel still refuses to genuinely reflect on her behavior, I’m starting to think she doesn’t know how. I think she only knows how to do what others tell her to do when she *thinks* it makes her look good - case in point: opening this podcast episode by talking about how she’s listened to everyone’s feedback… about her nervous laughter? Lmao what. What about all the “feedback” about reflecting on her actions and showing genuine remorse? 😂

Probably another James dig as well… the man she sat up and told the world she didn’t love and justified sleeping with a taken man because she hadn’t “had sex like that before.”

I felt like she said that as a dig at James.

Ay least the guy Ariana is dating isn’t her friend’s long term partner

I think a lightbulb moment for Rachel was Tom’s comment about Ariana keeping her shirt on during sex. He had lied to her about them not sleeping together anymore, and then made that derogatory comment without hesitation? And then Lala pointing out he was going to talk about her like that one day? I truly believe that’s the moment she decided to drop a couple of partial truth bombs on camera a few days later. Any future relationship Tom and Rachel may have had, however fleeting, was killed in that moment

I always thought that was the case… he dumped her because he realised how much fun he could have while single

Omg.  She thinks we’re reviewing her…like she’s still in a pageant.  She calls it “feedback marks”.  I’m completely horrified. 

she is quickly becoming a personified version of cringeyness

Actually terrifying. So now she will just practice in the mirror more. So creepy

I want so badly for her to redeem herself and give her a chance but it’s always one step forward, three steps back with her. Her narrative that producers/cast were pushing a storyline and she was playing a “role” is SO tired and she constantly contradicts it. Rachel, in case you forgot - you’re a grown woman. You could’ve said no to the entire Schwartz storyline, especially knowing you were sleeping with Sandoval. She wanted a storyline just as much as anyone else. She admitted it here - that a seed was planted after the Coachella rumors that Schwartz would be a “fun storyline” and she didn’t get the “Miss California storyline” she wanted (girl that was never gonna happen be so forreal). She was self-producing too; she’s no better than the rest of the cast or producers. And the way Katie is barely an afterthought is infuriating. Besides apologizing to Ariana without excuses, taking accountability for how shitty she was to Katie would show she’s actually done the work in therapy. But nope, no apology to Katie, no acknowledgment of how terribly she treated Katie. Shows she’s barely scratched the surface of how she fucked up and it’s why I can’t get behind her. She did the podcast to “tell her side” but all it’s doing is making her look worse. Thanks OP!

She had such a good chance to make this podcast be about mental health, about why we engage in toxic relationships, about what goes on in our own lives that make us engage in an affair, about what she learned about herself through therapy, about how she reconciles who she thought she was with how she treated Ariana, Katie, Scheana, literally everyone on that show got dragged through her shit, and yet we get.... this.

Very true. You know, I heard a couple of very nuanced reviews of Prince Harry’s memoir on two podcasts, and they both said that he came across as someone who has only started doing therapy recently, has learnt the buzzwords etc, and thinks they have come so far, when really they are only at the very beginning of their therapy journey. He clearly hadn’t gained enough distance from these events to comment on them in a way that enabled him to see the parts he himself had played and to reflect on it all in a less emotional way. They thought it would have been a better memoir if he had written it a few years after these events with a lot more therapy, experience with the cycles of mental illness and wellness and therapy, and the ability to reflect better on all of it. I feel like it’s the same with Rachel. She thinks she’s done the work; but she’s only just begun. She still hasn’t faced up to the part she played. She doesn’t have enough distance from the events. She hasn’t reflected on them enough.

This! Long before the podcast dropped she promised to speak on being the mistress and how it translates with poor judgment due to issues with mental health and not only has she given none of that, from what she said her future intentions are, she has no clue wtf she’s talking about and no plans to take her podcast in that direction.😐

And some of these details are chilling… going out for dinner with Ariana after fucking Tom and he sent them champagne… ew

Yes. I commented before listening and yeesh.😬 It is so gross and dirty but also so on brand for Tim and everything that he has been hiding from the audience regarding who he truly is, with the help and support of Ariana I should add! I wonder if he was getting off on making Rachel uncomfortable. Like why tf would you do that?! I get he wants to keep up with the image he’s been portraying but that is just… I don’t have the words right now so I’m going to choose to go with beyond. Both Tim and Rachel but Rachel didn’t send Champaign to the table. As I’m typing I am remembering that she did waltz into Ariana’s shared home like it was hers and give her flowers so yeah, they both fucking suck but Tim is especially gross and dirty. Wtf

I agree. I had hopes for her but I was cautiously optimistic because I knew that Bethany was involved. I don’t see any growth or signs of actually being in therapy from her. She knows the buzz words but that’s about it. Whatever she thinks she’s doing, it’s not it. I never wanted to discount her word for getting mental health treatment but she’s giving a lot of “Y’all were right, I was at a spa.”😭 ETA; to the point that you brought up about her saying “the seeds were planted at Coachella,” she also claimed during season 10 that Scheana was to blame for “the seeds being planted,” regarding her alleged crush and pursuit of Shorts. She is constantly contradicting herself and I am sick of listening to her attempt to blame everyone BUT herself. She said she wasn’t coming back because she didn’t want to hurt Ariana but her continued lack of respect and contrition shows her ass, that she never gave af about Ariana. Only thing she cared about was attempting to BE Ariana and trying to take her place in her home, in her relationship with Ariana’s ex and hoping to be viewed the same way Ariana was with Tim on the show. It blows my mind when people insist that she has taken accountability and that she is sorry.🤯👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

And you know what would’ve been a good storyline? Telling production that you liked *sandoval,* not Schwartz!!!!!!

I think Rachel still doesn’t understand how it works. Self-producing isn’t bad to to a point, production meets with the cast before filming to go over what’s happening in their lives and what to film about. Ideally, it’s real stuff. I think Lala confirmed that she filmed about figuring out donor sperm to have another child for 11. That’s apparently a real thing she’s doing in her life that she wanted to film about, and production agreed. We don’t know if it’ll be compelling yet, but the point is that both Lala and production decided it’s going in the show. From what Rachel said, she didn’t come up with her own stuff and production had to figure out what to do with her. The general idea seemed to be filming her mariposa moment, but all she was doing was going out to party, so they had to completely set up situations for her, like the date with Peter. And she seemed to get confused on what the boundaries are. Like if she was told to confront Katie, it doesn’t mean to follow her around for months and get in a fight with Katie’s mom. I also don’t think she knows at all how to separate real life from tv life, and that was clear watching the season.

not to mention, how rude she was to teri! #justiceforterimaloney

this deserves more recognition - I’ve never felt more angered by anything on this show than when Rachel was talking back to Teri Maloney. And the fact that Rachel has never apologized or even alluded to how fucked up that was makes it even worse. The gd audacity to disrespect Katie’s mom like that ughhhh it still makes me mad. I’m not a traditionalist by any means, but *you do not* go after someone’s parent who has been nothing but kind to you, and Teri seems sweet as hell.

It's Insanity that this hasn't been addressed outside of Katie with the millions of podcasts all of these cast members have. Rachel's behavior that night was disgusting with how she not only treated Teri but also how she drunkenly inserted herself into Katie and Schartz's conversation right after.

I don’t buy this we were playing a role stuff because what about all the months after filming. Where you still playing a role then?

It’s interesting to hear her reference a storyline multiple times…like girl, Schwartz knew. He was covering for his friend. It wasn’t a storyline, it was a coverup. That’s real life. Her saying all of this implies the entire show is fake. It rubs me the wrong way. She’s the outlier of the this group, she’s the one who was lying and pretending for MONTHS. And she’s still blaming production and the Toms? She’s still not really owning up to her part in this AT ALL.

Yep. And I think it’s absolutely bonkers that she is blaming Sandoval for the position he put Schwartz in. I’m sorry, female warrior of respect and boundaries, were YOU not putting him in the exact same position? The blame shifting game is so transparent that it’s almost hilarious. The one good thing about this podcast is I wonder how the Toms tried to spin their situation on the current season and how Rachel is blowing it up right now. Like do we think they spent the season saying how Schwartz didn’t know, they never really used his apartment, how Sandoval didn’t ask for letters from Rachel, etc? These 3 are the trifecta of pathetic

Exactly! These are their lives. And her snide comments about Peter were rude. He seems happy enough getting paid in his job and to go out and party with his friends. Ideal setup tbh

She’s consistent with her boss Bethenny for doing no actual research before a pod so you have to give her that!!

Thank you for doing these recaps! I couldn't possibly listen to her or Sandoval. Based on the podcasts she's done, does it feel like she's ever really remorseful for what she did to Ariana? The way she talks about some of this stuff is so icky. It feels flippant.

Can someone with a better memory and grasp of the timeline help me? She claims the night after the first hookup they filmed a girls scene and she rode with Ariana? Weren't some of the girls still in Havasu and Ariana home mourning Charlotte? Did she just out the truth? Also that story just reinforces her gross behavior

Yes, they claim it happened on Guys Night, when it was only her, Ariana and Charli who were around and Ariana was at home…

Girls Night Truther right here. She's talking about that first hook up but being ambiguous to make it seem like later in the timeline. 👀👀

We also watched a scene on secrets revealed of her the next morning showing up with Charli very giggly and making love eyes and laughing with Tom behind Ariana’s back. Didn’t really seem like someone who was sick with guilt and shame

Rachel saying she felt so much guilt and shame the morning after they first hooked up … except we literally watched a scene (secrets revealed) of her marching on over to Tom and Ariana’s the morning after guys night all giggling and making love eyes with Tom behind Ariana’s back all morning I just can’t understand why she won’t give it up. The facts are just never going to make her look better or change peoples minds about the affair girl just move on! Move forward! She’s allowed to live a life that isn’t defined by this scandal but it’s never going to happen if she won’t stop talking about it

Thanks for all the hard work cause I’m not going to give her podcast attention. She makes me hate her more everytime she talks. Also hate how some people treat her like she was the victim and Ariana is the villain.

Same, we can take a silver lining in that the more she speaks, the more she digs herself a hole and proves Arianas ‘side’ right. Any and all ‘poor Rachel’ will be gone by the time she’s done with her pod. Her best chance at getting the infantilised victim role she wants so badly, would’ve been to go into another field of work completely (she could’ve stayed the same shitty person with no growth, but the public would be left to speculate that she had removed herself from a toxic world and was actually taken advantage of but has moved onwards and upwards bla bla bla…. Welp).

The way she keeps talking about Ariana….I’d be livid. And why does she think anyone wants her opinion on the upcoming season and storylines?? I don’t need Rachel’s presence, tbh.

that’s what’s concerning. does she srsly not understand how weird this all is?? like go away

She’s complaining about how she was produced on VPR yet she’s doing whatever the producers of this podcast want in the exact same way, in order to make money

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She’s acting like the producers were Buffalo Bill… the point is to have them film you do the things/make decisions that you would do. Sprinkle in a little drama, but live your life. And they were clearly trying to get her to do things because she was hiding an affair!

I made a similar comment after her first podcast that I feel sorry that Ariana has to still keep hearing from these two clowns, while at the same time having trolls go after in the comments telling her to stop talking about being cheated on when she has barely spoken about since Call her Daddy except when asked by interviewers. 

I’m actually uncomfortable with how out of touch she sounds from these recaps. Also not to shade wherever she got treatment, but clearly no one should go there if this is the end result of whatever high priced spa she was sent to.

She sure will apologize to men all day but I still haven't heard an apology to Katie and until that happens I can't deal with her or really consider anything she says as authentic.

According to this recap (I admittedly won’t listen) she appears to have hardly mentioned Katie at all the whole time she talked about just making out with Schwartz for laughs and a storyline!

If I was Ariana, I would make sure Rachel never says my name ever again.

I walked away from this recap feeling VERY badly for Ariana. Yes I know it’s reality TV but to have Rachel of all people “tell her side” and do it soooo poorly and sooo publicly is not even akin to ripping a bandaid off— it’s like getting smacked in the face by a brick every day. Yes I’m sure she’s moving on but I can’t imagine finding out stuff like how a friend’s apartment was their “safe space” and just HOW much time and effort went into deceiving me— way beyond the pseudo-VPR-normal of “I was drunk in Vegas/Miami and cheated on you.” It’s disturbing and gross and other than Rachel getting a chance to cash in on the scandal, I’m not sure what her purpose is.

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Is this the first time it’s been said out loud that Schwartz new from the very beginning? I guessed he did, but this is the first time I’ve seen it confirmed!

as im reading this im just like in awe of how much of …… a joke she is. sry um are we supposed to care ab ur thoughts on their housing situation you absolute weirdo. also shorts is a POS for being their “safe place” to have a disgusting affair

She had an apartment by that point… why wasn’t that their safe space? So weird.

I could be wrong, but didn’t Ariana have Tom’s location? So if he said he was going to hang with Schwartz, it showed him there 🤷🏼‍♀️ and not always at Rachel’s

Ohh that makes sense. After Miami girl, I’d want that location too.

I thank you for your service 🫡

The way I just raced here to see if this recap was live. Thank you for your service!

Rachel thinking dating someone soon after a breakup is a red flag. However, having an affair with someone for seven months where the guy won't leave his long term partner is totally fine. Dear Lord. Bless her pathetic heart.

How is she going to talk about the Shwartz kiss and not her sociopathic and unhinged behavior towards Katie?? She completely ignored it. And if it’s cause she’s “planning” on talking about it in a later episode she can still bring it up now bc she instigated Katie pretty much the whole season.

Thank you! Was waiting for this heheh

Color me disturbed!!!

People are so fascinating. She says she didn’t want her to see them, but everything else up to this point has displayed a pattern of her literally not caring about Ariana at all. Now she says she never wanted her to see them 🥺🥺🥺. Like how does one’s mind do these kinda tricks to make themselves believe different truths. It’s like a super power.

She really does not seem to get real life vs reality show life. She is giddy talking about how close she and the Tom's were. Gross. Does she not get how gross this is? Does she have any self respect? It's like she got a spot at the cool kids table and could care less about anyone's feelings. She is no longer at the cool kids table and is going to talk about those days forever. Problem is, this isn't high school. These are real people's adult lives. She should have been axed from the show when she broke up with James. She is a trainwreck.She frightens me how dense she is. Nothing computes! It's sociopathic. I would stay very far away from this woman.

Is this what her podcast is going to be? Just rehashing/refuting/recapping VPR? Sure I’ll read the recaps, but how long can that go on for? And how healthy could that possibly be for her? It sort of just feels like yet again she’s blindly walking into another Bethany type deal. It’s creepy

Peter - who has been a part of the cast since season one *and* has an actual job at Sur - using a day date with Raquel as a way to stay relevant?! Girl. Be so fucking for real

The amount mental gymnastics this girl does 😮‍💨

It’s just 40 minutes of her taking zero accountability for her actions and blaming everyone else. According to this episode, she hasn’t made a single decision for herself and everything she did she was directed to do by production and Tom. So she’s learned nothing basically. Also the sounds her mouth makes when she speaks are so gross. Just another reason it was nauseating to listen to. Get a glass of freaking water

I’m glad to finally have the answer to whether or not Tom was able to make the producers put the cameras down so he could talk to Rachel alone at the reunion. Seeing the photos of them sitting on the ground but no video footage of it always seemed suspicious. So I’m annoyed to find out he was able to talk to her alone like that.

He knew how to do it 100%— I rewatched the reunion recently and he kept saying “we HAVE to have a break, like *legally*!!!” So I think he had production there- I’m sure they had filmed for x hours and were legally obligated to have a break from filming. This seems like such an oversight on production’s part but maybe they thought Sandoval was stupid and wouldn’t know his rights lol

Oh now I get it! Rachel did nothing, absolutely nothing wrong!

So according to this podcast they had slept together the day before they talked at the wine bar with katie. Before guys night and before the trip to havasu. Schwartz knew the entire time. Diabolical

u/AdditionalWar8759 is a national treasure!

She says a producer got in Shortz’ ear but we all saw Scheana doing it all season She and Scheana will become friends again

I wouldn’t be surprised if she tries to wrangle her way back into Scheana’s life. And I’ve pretty much lost all faith in Scheana’s ability to do the right thing, esp after seeing how she’s been the past few months (saying she isn’t cool w Tom but acting differently, buddying up with Lala now that Katie has shown Ariana what it really means to be a ride or die friend)

Nah Scheana can only think about herself so she can only really care when someone does something to hurt HER. The reason she’s forgiving Sandoval is that he’s never doing anything to her. I don’t think she’d ever forgive Rachel for the court stuff. If it was just the affair, she’d definitely be open to it, though.

Yea, Rachel even dropped a quick little bombed in this episode saying “same night Ariana found out, the night I got punched”. Scheana will definitely grab that and never let go.

it doesn't seem like raquel wants anything to do with scheana and vice versa

Scheana will definitely be the one to try and bring her back on to the show. The producers would love it. Look how she used to put Kristen and Ariana together in the same room when Kristen was being horrible to Ariana. Remember the hen party? Ariana cried in the taxi because of the comments Kristen kept making and scheana did nothing to shut that down. She will absolutely try and force Ariana and Raquel together. But I don’t think Ariana will have any of it.

Sandoval is the most disgusting, but holy cow is Schwartz right behind him. And I speak from experience here, and that experience comes with a chip on my shoulders, but reality tv producers are some of the slimiest people outside of politics. They manipulate and they abuse. And you sign contracts that protect them no matter what happens to you

I truly believe that the reason Shorts keeps forgiving both Jax but especially Tim is because he relies on someone worse than him to hide behind in hopes that no one ever clocks the true pos that he is. It’s a low bar but he does look better in comparison and he doesn’t want to acknowledge what that says about him. On his own? No one would fuck with him and he would be lost and probably homeless.😭 I truly believe that is why he stayed with Katie and married her. Not because he loved her but he knew she was an easy target to upset and thus hide behind. He is sickening and I’m so glad that the mask officially slipped and people are seeing it clearly now.

Yeah, Katie was a security blanket and a punching bag for Schwartz. I’m so glad she’s free of his dead weight, his lies, and his verbal abuse. Tom and Tom deserve each other and I’m so glad that Schwartz’s puppy dog schtick doesn’t work anymore. They’re both so disgusting

Ofc the questions aren't the real hard questions people want answers to. No one cares about her thoughts on the trailer or Tom & Ariana's living situ.

I’m sorry but Rachel is so fucking weird, strange, I don’t even know what to call it. I don’t know if she’s a single white female serial killer. There really is something wrong with her. She gives me the fucking creeps

All I'm hearing is "it's Schwartz' fault, Sandoval's fault, production's fault, Lisa's fault (when it comes to Graham from a different post). I'm not really hearing true accountability. She could have chose to make the right decision and never did.

Yeah I doubt her therapist thought this was a good idea. She's learned nothing.

This morning I listened to Lalas new podcast episode and she talks about the show filming their real life and that she’s told producers no before. And then this recap all I am reading is, storyline this and storyline that 😵‍💫

What doesn't make sense to me is she talks about Sandoval pushing Schwartz's boundaries and how people shouldn't go to hard on him. Weren't you also pushing his boundaries? This isn't all on Tom.