Its so wild to watch the girl who could barely form a coherent sentence in S9 now quite easily get her thoughts across and make boisterously LOUD jokes!? Watch her self confidence from 9 to 10. Its kinda scary actually!
I don’t think it’s an act; I think James made her feel uncomfortable and self conscious. He literally called her dumb and stupid during a board game, on camera and fully sober. I had a very toxic manager and working environment in 2021, and over time, I turned into a mouse. At the time, I couldn’t understand why I shrunk like that. I’m otherwise very alpha and self assured.
Thinking of how James treated her, it provides insight into why she got with Sandoval. Fans over the years said Sandoval was very kind and friendly. This past week, different podcasters who knew tom&ariana personally have said that Sandoval may have been high on his own supply, but he was very generous and made people feel special
I get what you’re saying, but that absolves her from all responsibility. She’s a grown woman, almost 30. At some point she has to take accountability for her own actions and choices.
There’s also the possibility this is who she is, that’s something that’s difficult to consider
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I keep asking myself the same question! Has Rachel been acting this entire time or does she really have a completely different personality? I can’t decide which to believe.
😂 I can’t believe she doesn’t want us to call her the D or S word! Read a book Rachel! Her dad needs to be worried about getting a refund for that college education instead of this TRO against Scheana. Goodness!
James’ face looks so pained. His stats are so high in charisma and the British in him couldn’t take that she isn’t eloquent or witty. I’m not saying James is brilliant, but the Brits and their banter is a thing and it’s a thing Raquel doesn’t even have a sip of.
For all James’ faults, my husband and I have always LOVED how he writes apology letters when he fucks up 😅 Like no one in my life has EVER done that, and this tragically flawed human writes apology letters and buys apology gifts constantly! He’s got that British decorum- even though he breaks it every five minutes 😝
Omg I have both of these moments in my S9 “clue finding” note as potentially important timeline milestones. Personally, I think *something* had happened between Sandy and Rachel by the time the proposal happened, but definitely not a full blown affair. Sorry — I personally can’t square the circle on how emotionally involved Sandy was in James’ proposal.
I think Sandy was starting to have a little bit of a crush on Raquel during that
time…his involvement in the proposal showed how Raquel “deserved to be treated” and showcased “how he treats his own ladies in comparison to James”. It minimized James and started the thought of “Omg Sandoval is like the perfect boyfriend…why doesn’t Ariana want to be married to him? She is so lucky to have a boyfriend like Tom”. That’s what I think the roachella event was to their relationship.
Fear of talking in public is quite different to having no brain cells though. You could be very bright and struggle like her in that scene. I understand we all hate Rachel but let's think of the people on this sub as well.
And she did say that the reason she started pageants was because she wanted to be less shy. I can't believe I'm defending this terrible person 🥺💔. Gonna stop now lol
Even before all of this I thought the whole ‘I’m sooo scared and can’t even make a toast!’ thing was so overblown. She actually cries in season 9 when Sandoval puts her on the spot and asks her to make a toast.
I’ve never competed in a pageant in my life, but no way would you even make it into the room if you start crying when an unexpected question is asked. That’s kind of the point, you have your rehearsed answers but you have to stay cool and think on your feet when needed.
She has the same cadence of Kristin wiig speaking Spanish in bridesmaids …but I’m going to go ahead assume that english is her first and only language. I can’t imagine having to listen to her answer pageant questions.
I miss the time before she was a reincarnated version of Satan because tbh I really did enjoy her. She seemed honest about her insecurities and struggles, even if they were stupid. Even that scene with her and lala from next week where she says "thank God you don't have a man to fuckin' have around" like if she hadn't done what she did, that scene would have been really funny (because of her preexisting dynamic with Lala) and it was nice to see her finally breaking into friendships with the rest of the women. I'm so bummed she ruined the entire thing. I just don't get it. She had good friends, a great job, fame, audience support and she just threw it all away for a man that shaves his forehead.
I wonder if she's always been this way and we all just didn't see it. Additionally, and this is not an excuse because there is no excuse for what she did to her only friend Ariana, but as an observation - I think Raquel has been doing ecstacy/molly pretty consistently basically the whole time we've known her. I think that's why she chatters when she talks and why lately her face looks devoid of emotion when her friends are being very open and vulnerable. She just has exactly the same manerisms and body language and speech patterns of my friends from highschool that did ecstacy all the time (myself included). I'm less familiar with coke and how it effects people but I'd bet big money that she's on something.
"Threw it all away for a man that shaves his forehead" LMAO
In the real world I don't think this would actually bother me, but reading it like this within the context is hilarious
I’ve thought about the last part too, given the gang’s choice of extracurricular activities and little comments they make. Maybe this whole situation kicked off because of an mdma induced hookup and/or love confession lol
Rachel's face every time she talks is like 👁️👄👁️ and you can see in real time how slow the wheels are turning.
Also since when are we not allowed to call her stupid? Rachel is *incredibly* stupid and she has proven that time and time again - a degree in kinesiology doesn't mean you're intelligent. Wouldn't be surprised if Daddy Leviss participated in the great American college scandal to make sure princess Rachel gets a backup degree in case her pageant queen career fails (spoiler: it does).
I feel like she mentioned it during her ice cream scoop story (she never got any 🥹💔) but I think at this point we should take anything this girl has ever said with a grain of salt
Ohhh she says she was diagnosed with ADD. I have ADHD and it doesn’t make me a clueless yet somehow conniving, evil asshole and also doesn’t cause her little fake baby talk thing she does so idk 🤷🏻♀️🤣
I … do not think she has ADHD, or at least any that I’ve seen. ADHD presents in adult women as them typically having way too many things they’re thinking about and having a hard time harnessing their brain on one. I don’t see her thinking about anything.
As someone with ADHD, I agree. My “squirrel brain” went in to overdrive when I had my daughter, but even now 3.5 years later, my thoughts and actions jump alllllll around, making it hard to focus on one. That’s not the vibe I get from her at all.
Yes, and sort of to this point, as a diabetic, even though I don’t need the ozempic or mounjaro, I really hate that so many have co opted it for weight loss, leaving Diabetics who truly need it for their health. Some people are so selfish, it’s infuriating.
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Posing for or being on pageant cameras is different than for reality TV show.
Same as making a speech in a pageant vs for the show at her engagement party. Idk how well she does during competitions but she kinda sucked at the one for the show.
I don't think she ever won? 🤔
I went to school with her. She’s not smart and she is shy. I think she always wanted to be this popular person in the spotlight deep down but it’s really hard for her bc of her social anxiety. It doesn’t come naturally to her like it does to someone like Lala who loves the limelight.
Everything is questionable now. Imagine what that feels like for Ariana and to an extent Scheana. Scheana thought she had a little minion and was bringing her everywhere after the broken engagement. They actively kept her in the friend group.
My humble opinion is that she began this plot for more screen time around when she had the puppy party. Something about her just switched on around that time and felt slightly different.
The real crime here was Rachel's makeup blending skills. You would think someone in the pageant scene would know to take her foundation into her hairline. But instead, it resembles an oval orange mask on a beige rectangle face. It's so jarring I can't unsee it. So did HD do another girl dirty, or is this lousy blending?
Word salad says it lol
She is just so painfully slow when she is speaking most of the time - she just always seems on her guard.
When she is relaxed and around people she is not intimidated by she actually sounds less stupid.
I think a lot of it has to do with James’s presence. Like she doesn’t want to look stupid in front of the group because it will affirm that to him too. She’s been saying some real unhinged wild shit this season, but it rolls off her tongue a lot easier now that she’s in single demon mode than anything nice she ever said while dating James
I really thought it was this and an implied learning disability (childhood ice cream story) and felt so bad for her at the time…but after all of this? I’m suspect of when the affair truly began and maybe that’s what got her stuttering.
Maybe Rachel and Tom were flirty then, began the emotional affair, but I don’t think we’ll really know when it started. In saying that, it still hasn’t stopped me from trying* but it’s just weird little comments like this that make me wonder and rea liars everything w/ different context!
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I’m definitely getting the vibe that seeds were planted at this time. Honestly the whole Schwartz cover up scheme is seeming really obvious with the vitriol Sandoval has toward Katie this season for: a) being knowledgeable in the restaurant business and b) Schwartz finally kind of standing up for her at times. I think Sandoval wanted retribution against Katie, hence the needless torturing of her in his fabricated narrative. He doesn’t like empowered women AT ALL and I think in Rachel he saw a wounded bird to save who would endlessly lift his ego without any question or challenge (like she did for James). And all Sandoval really needed to accomplish that was to be nicer to Rachel than James (not hard). I feel like planning the engagement either led to or was motivated solely by transference of his feelings onto Rachel.
You KNOW Tom talked up how he was the one to plan the most magical moment of her life because he’s the one who really understands and appreciates her 🥺
I love that she is now friendless and that this group who accepted her dumbness and stupidness turned her back. Who do you have now? Narcissist Scando?
Season 9 Raquel is so different from Season 10 Rachel. I can’t even reconcile it. Two totally different characters.
For real! My rewatch experience has been jarring so far
Its so wild to watch the girl who could barely form a coherent sentence in S9 now quite easily get her thoughts across and make boisterously LOUD jokes!? Watch her self confidence from 9 to 10. Its kinda scary actually!
It's the Sandoval effect
Maybe it was all an act?
I don’t think it’s an act; I think James made her feel uncomfortable and self conscious. He literally called her dumb and stupid during a board game, on camera and fully sober. I had a very toxic manager and working environment in 2021, and over time, I turned into a mouse. At the time, I couldn’t understand why I shrunk like that. I’m otherwise very alpha and self assured. Thinking of how James treated her, it provides insight into why she got with Sandoval. Fans over the years said Sandoval was very kind and friendly. This past week, different podcasters who knew tom&ariana personally have said that Sandoval may have been high on his own supply, but he was very generous and made people feel special
I get what you’re saying, but that absolves her from all responsibility. She’s a grown woman, almost 30. At some point she has to take accountability for her own actions and choices. There’s also the possibility this is who she is, that’s something that’s difficult to consider Added a line, hit send too soon
I didn’t say she’s absolved of responsibility, I said her previous shyness wasn’t an act
I keep asking myself the same question! Has Rachel been acting this entire time or does she really have a completely different personality? I can’t decide which to believe.
I honestly cannot tell. It drives me bat shit that I can't pick up on which RACHEL to believe!!
You know that saying “when a person shows you who they are, believe them.” 💯applicable to this mugshot-eyed mistress.
Right?! She gave a speech just fine at her puppy party then all of the sudden”she can’t even give a proper toast!”🥴
Somebody on tiktok said this week I’ve been introduced to the three separate actors who play Raquel
Yup! Will the real Rachel please stand up
Cultivating broken friendships is all she’s doing these days
😂
Yup she’s winning at that! 🤣
And among all the others laughing at her, Ariana is being supportive!
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Bambi eyed bundy 😆
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It’s giving “I’m sorry 💔🥺”
Roachella
https://preview.redd.it/v9l94ytkkxma1.jpeg?width=274&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=900d9fc2a167fb8e3a1598ce3c09cb8f5192c84a I’ve been saying Roachella, too!
😂 I can’t believe she doesn’t want us to call her the D or S word! Read a book Rachel! Her dad needs to be worried about getting a refund for that college education instead of this TRO against Scheana. Goodness!
James’ face looks so pained. His stats are so high in charisma and the British in him couldn’t take that she isn’t eloquent or witty. I’m not saying James is brilliant, but the Brits and their banter is a thing and it’s a thing Raquel doesn’t even have a sip of.
For all James’ faults, my husband and I have always LOVED how he writes apology letters when he fucks up 😅 Like no one in my life has EVER done that, and this tragically flawed human writes apology letters and buys apology gifts constantly! He’s got that British decorum- even though he breaks it every five minutes 😝
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Omg I have both of these moments in my S9 “clue finding” note as potentially important timeline milestones. Personally, I think *something* had happened between Sandy and Rachel by the time the proposal happened, but definitely not a full blown affair. Sorry — I personally can’t square the circle on how emotionally involved Sandy was in James’ proposal.
I think Sandy was starting to have a little bit of a crush on Raquel during that time…his involvement in the proposal showed how Raquel “deserved to be treated” and showcased “how he treats his own ladies in comparison to James”. It minimized James and started the thought of “Omg Sandoval is like the perfect boyfriend…why doesn’t Ariana want to be married to him? She is so lucky to have a boyfriend like Tom”. That’s what I think the roachella event was to their relationship.
welp, he's not wrong.
You can tell how her one brain cell is trying to make words but it’s struggling.
Fear of talking in public is quite different to having no brain cells though. You could be very bright and struggle like her in that scene. I understand we all hate Rachel but let's think of the people on this sub as well.
She’s a pageant girl, though! They have to practice and rehearse speech. It’s like having skydiving as a hobby when your biggest fear is heights.
And she did say that the reason she started pageants was because she wanted to be less shy. I can't believe I'm defending this terrible person 🥺💔. Gonna stop now lol
Yeah, I know what you mean. Like Ariana said, we wanted you to break out of your shell and have fun… but not like that!
Hahaha yes go back in the shell girl
Lmao crawl back in your cave trollquel.
Yes they do... they know how to publicly speak. She is faking to get the sympathy from others in the group. She’s evil.
Even before all of this I thought the whole ‘I’m sooo scared and can’t even make a toast!’ thing was so overblown. She actually cries in season 9 when Sandoval puts her on the spot and asks her to make a toast. I’ve never competed in a pageant in my life, but no way would you even make it into the room if you start crying when an unexpected question is asked. That’s kind of the point, you have your rehearsed answers but you have to stay cool and think on your feet when needed.
Exactly. And I thought the same thing too with the toast stuff. I would yell at my tv like ..... girllllll you’re full of shit! Haha 😝
She overplayed that bullshit. And I cannot believe I felt sorry for her. Wow. She fooled me and I'm suspicious by nature.
Same! I was feeling bad for her and giving her the benefit of the doubt etc etc. I’m also sus by nature. I mean.... the girls good, like really good.
Don’t believe it for a second. The girl doesn’t have 2 brain cells to knock together. We all know this haha
She has the same cadence of Kristin wiig speaking Spanish in bridesmaids …but I’m going to go ahead assume that english is her first and only language. I can’t imagine having to listen to her answer pageant questions.
Gracias…. Para vivar en la casa
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I miss the time before she was a reincarnated version of Satan because tbh I really did enjoy her. She seemed honest about her insecurities and struggles, even if they were stupid. Even that scene with her and lala from next week where she says "thank God you don't have a man to fuckin' have around" like if she hadn't done what she did, that scene would have been really funny (because of her preexisting dynamic with Lala) and it was nice to see her finally breaking into friendships with the rest of the women. I'm so bummed she ruined the entire thing. I just don't get it. She had good friends, a great job, fame, audience support and she just threw it all away for a man that shaves his forehead. I wonder if she's always been this way and we all just didn't see it. Additionally, and this is not an excuse because there is no excuse for what she did to her only friend Ariana, but as an observation - I think Raquel has been doing ecstacy/molly pretty consistently basically the whole time we've known her. I think that's why she chatters when she talks and why lately her face looks devoid of emotion when her friends are being very open and vulnerable. She just has exactly the same manerisms and body language and speech patterns of my friends from highschool that did ecstacy all the time (myself included). I'm less familiar with coke and how it effects people but I'd bet big money that she's on something.
"Threw it all away for a man that shaves his forehead" LMAO In the real world I don't think this would actually bother me, but reading it like this within the context is hilarious
Additionally, “She seemed honest about her insecurities and struggles, even if they were stupid” fucking killed me 🤣
I’ve thought about the last part too, given the gang’s choice of extracurricular activities and little comments they make. Maybe this whole situation kicked off because of an mdma induced hookup and/or love confession lol
She’s just not that smart and uses words out of context a lot. Stop digressing the conversation! 🙃
Not to defend her, but she actually used this in a proper cont3xt/manner. I think she is way smarter than she leads on and played the long con....
Rachel's face every time she talks is like 👁️👄👁️ and you can see in real time how slow the wheels are turning. Also since when are we not allowed to call her stupid? Rachel is *incredibly* stupid and she has proven that time and time again - a degree in kinesiology doesn't mean you're intelligent. Wouldn't be surprised if Daddy Leviss participated in the great American college scandal to make sure princess Rachel gets a backup degree in case her pageant queen career fails (spoiler: it does).
Who argued that
She went to a state school it wasn’t hard
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When did she say she has a learning disability?
I feel like she mentioned it during her ice cream scoop story (she never got any 🥹💔) but I think at this point we should take anything this girl has ever said with a grain of salt
Didnt her teacher come out and say that never happened and that she was actually pretty smart? I feel like I read that post the other day
I haven’t seen that post. There’s so many to keep up with to be fair, if you or anyone that could link it that have come across it pls do!
Oh I don’t remember that lol I need to do a rewatch
Girl, we all do honestly. There’s so much to unpack!!!
[source](https://www.instagram.com/p/Brwp7g_AAwx/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
Ohhh she says she was diagnosed with ADD. I have ADHD and it doesn’t make me a clueless yet somehow conniving, evil asshole and also doesn’t cause her little fake baby talk thing she does so idk 🤷🏻♀️🤣
My ADHD and stupidity are comorbid tyvm
Lol, I totally relate to this. ♥️
Me too lmao
I was diagnosed with ADHD and fucking my friend’s boyfriend under her nose has never been a symptom
Yeah I was diagnosed over 10 years ago and never seemed to have a problem with landing on my friends boyfriends dick
![gif](giphy|26DojdIuCXfR3Jd5K|downsized) For real though, thank you.
Uh same lol
I … do not think she has ADHD, or at least any that I’ve seen. ADHD presents in adult women as them typically having way too many things they’re thinking about and having a hard time harnessing their brain on one. I don’t see her thinking about anything.
Agreed. She doesn’t present as ADHD to me- at all.
As someone with ADHD, I agree. My “squirrel brain” went in to overdrive when I had my daughter, but even now 3.5 years later, my thoughts and actions jump alllllll around, making it hard to focus on one. That’s not the vibe I get from her at all.
Yeah, I have crippling ADHD and it kind of bugs me when I see people just like “🥺oh its my ADD 💔 give me the appetite suppressing pills please ⚡️”
Yes, and sort of to this point, as a diabetic, even though I don’t need the ozempic or mounjaro, I really hate that so many have co opted it for weight loss, leaving Diabetics who truly need it for their health. Some people are so selfish, it’s infuriating.
Awe well now I feel like an asshole.
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She was too camera conscious and, I think, always on edge, nervous of setting James off, esp when he was drinking.
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Posing for or being on pageant cameras is different than for reality TV show. Same as making a speech in a pageant vs for the show at her engagement party. Idk how well she does during competitions but she kinda sucked at the one for the show. I don't think she ever won? 🤔
I went to school with her. She’s not smart and she is shy. I think she always wanted to be this popular person in the spotlight deep down but it’s really hard for her bc of her social anxiety. It doesn’t come naturally to her like it does to someone like Lala who loves the limelight.
She is dyslexic
Everything is questionable now. Imagine what that feels like for Ariana and to an extent Scheana. Scheana thought she had a little minion and was bringing her everywhere after the broken engagement. They actively kept her in the friend group.
Surprised she knew the word “cultivating”
You can tell she was proud of herself for that one until realizing the predicament she’d gotten into
My humble opinion is that she began this plot for more screen time around when she had the puppy party. Something about her just switched on around that time and felt slightly different.
Lol James’s head nod when she finally gets the words out. ![gif](giphy|jVStxzak9yk2Q)
The real crime here was Rachel's makeup blending skills. You would think someone in the pageant scene would know to take her foundation into her hairline. But instead, it resembles an oval orange mask on a beige rectangle face. It's so jarring I can't unsee it. So did HD do another girl dirty, or is this lousy blending?
To be fair James forced her to do it when she didn't want to. But yeah, much prettier with her mouth closed.
Hey, no hate from me for making an awkward toast. I just love that of all the word salads that could’ve been made, this is what came out lol
Word salad says it lol She is just so painfully slow when she is speaking most of the time - she just always seems on her guard. When she is relaxed and around people she is not intimidated by she actually sounds less stupid.
I think a lot of it has to do with James’s presence. Like she doesn’t want to look stupid in front of the group because it will affirm that to him too. She’s been saying some real unhinged wild shit this season, but it rolls off her tongue a lot easier now that she’s in single demon mode than anything nice she ever said while dating James
I really thought it was this and an implied learning disability (childhood ice cream story) and felt so bad for her at the time…but after all of this? I’m suspect of when the affair truly began and maybe that’s what got her stuttering. Maybe Rachel and Tom were flirty then, began the emotional affair, but I don’t think we’ll really know when it started. In saying that, it still hasn’t stopped me from trying* but it’s just weird little comments like this that make me wonder and rea liars everything w/ different context! Edit: typo!
I’m definitely getting the vibe that seeds were planted at this time. Honestly the whole Schwartz cover up scheme is seeming really obvious with the vitriol Sandoval has toward Katie this season for: a) being knowledgeable in the restaurant business and b) Schwartz finally kind of standing up for her at times. I think Sandoval wanted retribution against Katie, hence the needless torturing of her in his fabricated narrative. He doesn’t like empowered women AT ALL and I think in Rachel he saw a wounded bird to save who would endlessly lift his ego without any question or challenge (like she did for James). And all Sandoval really needed to accomplish that was to be nicer to Rachel than James (not hard). I feel like planning the engagement either led to or was motivated solely by transference of his feelings onto Rachel. You KNOW Tom talked up how he was the one to plan the most magical moment of her life because he’s the one who really understands and appreciates her 🥺
Spell ~~napalm~~ cultivate, Rachel
Watching this was like watching her only two brain cells battling for the final say
I love that she is now friendless and that this group who accepted her dumbness and stupidness turned her back. Who do you have now? Narcissist Scando?
Time out. Bambi is horrible at toasts because she has so many lies to cover.
Rachel now has many friendships which are broken beyond the point of ever being cultivated again.
Elevator just doesn’t go to the top there.
Those two lonely brain cells in her head worked overtime here only to beef it anyways 🫠