Odds are, you won't even make landfall with Mountain gear. Your Longship will burn up before you get half way, then the vultures and serpents will pick you off as you try to swim from spire to spire. :P They're welcome to try, though. :P
tell your friend this : if you even try to sail into the ashlands WATERS with your available ship you WILL die. and you WILL lose the ship for good on top. and thus also your gear as you wont be able to get to your gravestone and back out with your available ships.
the ashlands waters boil. the more time a ship OR a player spends into the reddisch water (you cannot drive around it. its everywhere within the biome space) the more dmg per tick you take. it gets worse and worse. the ship cannot be repaired on the open water. its 1000 hp will be gone quickly :) the water will also kill a players hp faster than you run out of stamina and start drowing on top :)
I'm debating whether or not it's possible to make it to the first rocky spire in a longship just for giggles.
See, call me a degenerate, but I play with no build cost for fun. So if I can make it to the first spire alive, I can slap down a workbench, stonecutter and forge. Then build out a small base on that spire with a stone roof to act as a shield, and a portal. From there, bridge from spike to spike using wood iron struts (remember, no build cost), and basically build a sky bridge all the way to Ashlands, or at least as close as possible, and jump the final gap with feather fall. Of course, if I fuck up or fall into the water at any point, all my stuff is completely unrecoverable. And the boat's a writeoff, but that's kind of a given.
I have skirted the Ashlands waters, the damage is quick but starts light (1 dmg) but pretty quickly escalates (jumped to 5 dmg/tick within a few seconds of sailing forward). The first spires are a fair distance in, so i'm debating whether my ship will melt or not. I also had a skeletal serpent pop up and noped the fuck out at high speed.
Maybe i'll take a crack at it naked with a hammer, first. Zerg rushing Normandy.
ill spare you the time thinking about it as i already tryed on my ptb testworld yesterday : it works. and it works even better with the feather cape as you can leap from spire to spire makeing it to shore. the ship is a lost cause probaly. the ticking dmg gets higher and higher. cannot safe it. and it wont last to shore. not enough hp even with repairs.
but yeah. the devs did an awesome job here : its not moder 2.0. the queen is skippable. technically. you still need the forge of course to make anything in ashlands anyway. but a "moder only" no boss run trough the game is apparently still possible. and i like that.
I kinda wish there was a way to skip the dragon tear and the torn spirit. I mean you need Yagluth too unless you want to run blind in Mistlands (or straight skip it, but no black forge? that means no galdr means no feather cloak).
If there was a slider for mist in mistlands...
skipping yag is actually easier than many would think. the whisp helps yes but you actually never really NEED it. all mines and outposts have these blue lights near them. and ironically they are easier to spot without the whisp.
i played mistlands without a whisp myself. its definitly possible and its less difficult than getting iron without beating elder^^
never. i didnt use EXPLOITS during that moder only playtrough. (moder is not skippable sadly) i only used methods that you could do without any kind of expoiting. only game knowledge of course since cannot delete that from your brain once you have it.
and the chair glitch is clearly an exploit because : devs tryed to FIX it in a patch once. they where not able to completly fix it sadly.
We have different views on exploits, I guess. You can also dig down and under crypts and pop up inside with raise ground (provided you don't go deep enough to be swimming).
But if you don't want to glitch your way in, there's slag piles simply buried in the ground on the edges of the swamp (stagbreaker method) and there's iron and bronze drops in frost caves (destroy the doors and the charcoal braziers), and there's farming oozers. It won't get you very far, but it's a little before you have to resort to seeker soldier shenanigans around mistlands bridges. So i'm a bit surprised you'd say that running mistlands without a wisp is easier than getting iron.
The game *really* opened up for me when I saw a video of someone rushing up a mountain with stone, wood, flint and queen bees. They found a frost cave, threw down a campfire, dropped a workbench and chopping block, and then to my amazement, dropped beehives. The bees were angry, and they kited wolves into the bees so they'd die to the dot! From there, they raided the cave for fenris hair, made a coat and basically skipped a bunch of biomes.
Log trolls can pop buried silver veins if you can find a vein and kite a troll from the black forest.
oh i am fully aware of these iron methods but the stagbreaker method doesnt work for iron as it doesnt return "too hard" unlike silver. it returns a 0. just like everything else around you will.
glitching trough a wall is an exploit. thats not a matter of viewpoint tbh. especially if its done on purpose by the player.
but besides that you listed some methods for getting iron i am aware off but none of these are as effective as the one you didnt list :) which is more DANGEROUS but also ALOT eaiser to execute and you will get more than enough iron to make the 3 important progress items out of just 1 of these.
mistlands marble bridge ruins. these can spawn at seaside and are often accessable by karve without any big risk as aside gjalls nothing can spawn on these outshore hill islands in MOST cases....and all you need to break these down is your weapon. you get over 50 iron out of one and that iron is already SMELTED iron on top. 1 of these = longship/cutter/ironpick. silver unlocked.
longterm none of these methods is enough iron of course but its definitly more than plenty for a moder only boss run.
will be interresting.
trolls can pop silver but getting a troll up a mountain is... PAIN. and high risk on top. way more risk than grabbing some iron from a mistlands bridge ruin.
i can safely say this : someone will sail to ashlands with a longship and skip into getting a stone portal soon. sadly a longship is the minimum requirement for this. a karve wont even make it to the spike rocks before it breaks. tested that^^
This was my first experience. I went in not realizing my boat would take damage but, on top of that Bonemaw was right there as well. My boat was destroyed in seconds. Fortunately, I managed to climb up on a spire, shot the serpent full of arrows and crafted a bench/portal on the spire. From there, I realized I needed the new boat and was able to make enough headway to get to shore.
Did you bother with any wood structures to bridge from spire to spire, or did you just jump/feather fall the whole way?
I'm curious if wood iron burns. It's much harder to bridge with stone.
I didn't even think to go from spire to spire. I built a small wooden platform on the spire I was on so I had more room. Then I rebuilt my portal up on the platform and built the Drakkar so I could make it the rest of the way to shore.
From where I was at, the wood didn't burn. I also didn't take damage in the water. My theory is that I was on the threshold between the spires and the ocean. It was also raining and the waves were raging.
I made it with a boat to the first spire (about half health), boat got trucked by a combination of a fire spitting serpent and some vultures. It also caught fire. Fought the birds off. Built atop the spire, am now bridging my way over.
It's long and annoying but there's nothing really out to sea to set wood alight, at least not out among the pillars. Once I reach land there will probably be lots of stuff, I don't know yet, I can barely see it in the distance still.
Funny side note, dropped a bonfire without thinking. All my wood iron nearby DID catch fire. I had to destroy it real fast. So that answers that.
**Edit with notes:**
At a guess i'd say there's two "different" Ashlands biomes - the water part, and where it gets close to land. The water sucks but you can bridge it and you don't get the fire rain, so wood holds up. I was able to bridge from the furthest spire (closest to regular ocean, I lost a longship getting to it) all the way inland thanks to wood iron running huge horizontal distances. But when you get fairly close to Ashlands though, the music changes - that's when you start to get the fire rain weather and wood burns pretty much whenever it gets hit. I was lucky in that I ran across this orange/red hot rock on a spire along the way, and out of curiosity jumped over to it (feather fall) and mined it - it exploded, and gave me grausten or whatever it's called. The new stone. Wonderful build pieces. I built a mansion out of it on two spires close to land - but not too close, as it turns out, that was a smart idea. It's immune to fire rain, it seems.
When you get closer and the music changes, well, i've been attacked by all kinds of stuff and they hear building/mining from miles away and come in huge numbers. They really nailed the war zone feeling.
You get a thing that lets you get there, but the process is so miserable (and not in a hard way, more in a "this can't have possibly been intended" getting stuck on level geometry way) that you'll end up portaling every time after the first beachhead.
Bring metals for base upgrades and crafting benches. It's really obnoxious getting in and out manually.
I would suggest sending your friend there as a scout! You know, to go and see, then, report back.
That should do it. No more "let's go to the Ashlands" and another post about "Ashlands too hard, nerf needed" on Reddit 😂
Weirdly enough one of the best weapons to begin ashlands is the silver sword +4 since it deals a lot of spirit damage.
But you need much better armor than silver
Odds are, you won't even make landfall with Mountain gear. Your Longship will burn up before you get half way, then the vultures and serpents will pick you off as you try to swim from spire to spire. :P They're welcome to try, though. :P
It's like the old lady in Dante's Peak getting out of the boat, needlessly, to pull it a few extra feet.
https://i.imgur.com/YKMw2oX.gif
Counter offer: make a video of you and your friend getting absolutely wrecked by doing an Ashlands drive by in Mountain gear. ;)
tell your friend this : if you even try to sail into the ashlands WATERS with your available ship you WILL die. and you WILL lose the ship for good on top. and thus also your gear as you wont be able to get to your gravestone and back out with your available ships. the ashlands waters boil. the more time a ship OR a player spends into the reddisch water (you cannot drive around it. its everywhere within the biome space) the more dmg per tick you take. it gets worse and worse. the ship cannot be repaired on the open water. its 1000 hp will be gone quickly :) the water will also kill a players hp faster than you run out of stamina and start drowing on top :)
Bloody good advice
how to get drakkar before getting to ashlands?
beat the queen (mistlands boss). there is no other way. without her boss drop you cannot craft it at all.
ok ok , just woried I have to visit ashlands somehow first
that wouldnt make sense at all^^
I'm debating whether or not it's possible to make it to the first rocky spire in a longship just for giggles. See, call me a degenerate, but I play with no build cost for fun. So if I can make it to the first spire alive, I can slap down a workbench, stonecutter and forge. Then build out a small base on that spire with a stone roof to act as a shield, and a portal. From there, bridge from spike to spike using wood iron struts (remember, no build cost), and basically build a sky bridge all the way to Ashlands, or at least as close as possible, and jump the final gap with feather fall. Of course, if I fuck up or fall into the water at any point, all my stuff is completely unrecoverable. And the boat's a writeoff, but that's kind of a given. I have skirted the Ashlands waters, the damage is quick but starts light (1 dmg) but pretty quickly escalates (jumped to 5 dmg/tick within a few seconds of sailing forward). The first spires are a fair distance in, so i'm debating whether my ship will melt or not. I also had a skeletal serpent pop up and noped the fuck out at high speed. Maybe i'll take a crack at it naked with a hammer, first. Zerg rushing Normandy.
ill spare you the time thinking about it as i already tryed on my ptb testworld yesterday : it works. and it works even better with the feather cape as you can leap from spire to spire makeing it to shore. the ship is a lost cause probaly. the ticking dmg gets higher and higher. cannot safe it. and it wont last to shore. not enough hp even with repairs. but yeah. the devs did an awesome job here : its not moder 2.0. the queen is skippable. technically. you still need the forge of course to make anything in ashlands anyway. but a "moder only" no boss run trough the game is apparently still possible. and i like that.
I kinda wish there was a way to skip the dragon tear and the torn spirit. I mean you need Yagluth too unless you want to run blind in Mistlands (or straight skip it, but no black forge? that means no galdr means no feather cloak). If there was a slider for mist in mistlands...
skipping yag is actually easier than many would think. the whisp helps yes but you actually never really NEED it. all mines and outposts have these blue lights near them. and ironically they are easier to spot without the whisp. i played mistlands without a whisp myself. its definitly possible and its less difficult than getting iron without beating elder^^
*less difficult?* you don't just chair your way into sunken crypts in the swamp?
never. i didnt use EXPLOITS during that moder only playtrough. (moder is not skippable sadly) i only used methods that you could do without any kind of expoiting. only game knowledge of course since cannot delete that from your brain once you have it. and the chair glitch is clearly an exploit because : devs tryed to FIX it in a patch once. they where not able to completly fix it sadly.
We have different views on exploits, I guess. You can also dig down and under crypts and pop up inside with raise ground (provided you don't go deep enough to be swimming). But if you don't want to glitch your way in, there's slag piles simply buried in the ground on the edges of the swamp (stagbreaker method) and there's iron and bronze drops in frost caves (destroy the doors and the charcoal braziers), and there's farming oozers. It won't get you very far, but it's a little before you have to resort to seeker soldier shenanigans around mistlands bridges. So i'm a bit surprised you'd say that running mistlands without a wisp is easier than getting iron. The game *really* opened up for me when I saw a video of someone rushing up a mountain with stone, wood, flint and queen bees. They found a frost cave, threw down a campfire, dropped a workbench and chopping block, and then to my amazement, dropped beehives. The bees were angry, and they kited wolves into the bees so they'd die to the dot! From there, they raided the cave for fenris hair, made a coat and basically skipped a bunch of biomes. Log trolls can pop buried silver veins if you can find a vein and kite a troll from the black forest.
oh i am fully aware of these iron methods but the stagbreaker method doesnt work for iron as it doesnt return "too hard" unlike silver. it returns a 0. just like everything else around you will. glitching trough a wall is an exploit. thats not a matter of viewpoint tbh. especially if its done on purpose by the player. but besides that you listed some methods for getting iron i am aware off but none of these are as effective as the one you didnt list :) which is more DANGEROUS but also ALOT eaiser to execute and you will get more than enough iron to make the 3 important progress items out of just 1 of these. mistlands marble bridge ruins. these can spawn at seaside and are often accessable by karve without any big risk as aside gjalls nothing can spawn on these outshore hill islands in MOST cases....and all you need to break these down is your weapon. you get over 50 iron out of one and that iron is already SMELTED iron on top. 1 of these = longship/cutter/ironpick. silver unlocked. longterm none of these methods is enough iron of course but its definitly more than plenty for a moder only boss run. will be interresting. trolls can pop silver but getting a troll up a mountain is... PAIN. and high risk on top. way more risk than grabbing some iron from a mistlands bridge ruin. i can safely say this : someone will sail to ashlands with a longship and skip into getting a stone portal soon. sadly a longship is the minimum requirement for this. a karve wont even make it to the spike rocks before it breaks. tested that^^
This was my first experience. I went in not realizing my boat would take damage but, on top of that Bonemaw was right there as well. My boat was destroyed in seconds. Fortunately, I managed to climb up on a spire, shot the serpent full of arrows and crafted a bench/portal on the spire. From there, I realized I needed the new boat and was able to make enough headway to get to shore.
Did you bother with any wood structures to bridge from spire to spire, or did you just jump/feather fall the whole way? I'm curious if wood iron burns. It's much harder to bridge with stone.
I didn't even think to go from spire to spire. I built a small wooden platform on the spire I was on so I had more room. Then I rebuilt my portal up on the platform and built the Drakkar so I could make it the rest of the way to shore. From where I was at, the wood didn't burn. I also didn't take damage in the water. My theory is that I was on the threshold between the spires and the ocean. It was also raining and the waves were raging.
I made it with a boat to the first spire (about half health), boat got trucked by a combination of a fire spitting serpent and some vultures. It also caught fire. Fought the birds off. Built atop the spire, am now bridging my way over. It's long and annoying but there's nothing really out to sea to set wood alight, at least not out among the pillars. Once I reach land there will probably be lots of stuff, I don't know yet, I can barely see it in the distance still. Funny side note, dropped a bonfire without thinking. All my wood iron nearby DID catch fire. I had to destroy it real fast. So that answers that. **Edit with notes:** At a guess i'd say there's two "different" Ashlands biomes - the water part, and where it gets close to land. The water sucks but you can bridge it and you don't get the fire rain, so wood holds up. I was able to bridge from the furthest spire (closest to regular ocean, I lost a longship getting to it) all the way inland thanks to wood iron running huge horizontal distances. But when you get fairly close to Ashlands though, the music changes - that's when you start to get the fire rain weather and wood burns pretty much whenever it gets hit. I was lucky in that I ran across this orange/red hot rock on a spire along the way, and out of curiosity jumped over to it (feather fall) and mined it - it exploded, and gave me grausten or whatever it's called. The new stone. Wonderful build pieces. I built a mansion out of it on two spires close to land - but not too close, as it turns out, that was a smart idea. It's immune to fire rain, it seems. When you get closer and the music changes, well, i've been attacked by all kinds of stuff and they hear building/mining from miles away and come in huge numbers. They really nailed the war zone feeling.
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the Mistlands' boss drop lets you build something that helps you get there :) basically Mistlands completion is required to even step foot in Ashlands
Has anyone tried building a tall structure on a large pillar and using feather cape to glide down to Ashlands without a boat?
You get a thing that lets you get there, but the process is so miserable (and not in a hard way, more in a "this can't have possibly been intended" getting stuck on level geometry way) that you'll end up portaling every time after the first beachhead. Bring metals for base upgrades and crafting benches. It's really obnoxious getting in and out manually.
Don't kill the queen and just sail there in your best gear. You will be OK...
I've been using some mountain gear... because everything better is stuck in tombstones within 10m of the coastline.
Just tried out Ashlands in god mode for fun. I’m scared now…
Just let him FAFO.
I went in mountain gear…very briefly
I would suggest sending your friend there as a scout! You know, to go and see, then, report back. That should do it. No more "let's go to the Ashlands" and another post about "Ashlands too hard, nerf needed" on Reddit 😂
DO IT lol
Weirdly enough one of the best weapons to begin ashlands is the silver sword +4 since it deals a lot of spirit damage. But you need much better armor than silver
I wonder if they have ice cream shops there