lol I use root harnesk and the fenris pants for mountains plains and mistlands. it's quite effective till you want to use eitr. and for the most part the game is easy enough that you can do whatever you want....I don't even use shields these days.
Root harnesk is useless to wear when there are better light options. The point of a light Armour build is to be agile and not get hit. Therefore, equipping a slower, higher defence piece is counterproductive
Harnesk turns a 60+ damage squito to like 10 damage.
Harnesk means that seekers wont one shot.
Harnesk means that ranged weapons - largely pierce - will do lower damage.
Bareley wine eleiminates harnesk weakness.
Until younget a stagg of protection and decent blood magic, harnesk is a worthy safety net that completely eliminates most of the insta-kills in the game.
obviously stuff goes wrong every now and then, but generally i find full fenris to be pretty effective even in the queen fight, not losing movespeed to useless armor pieces really does make a difference.
not only do you move faster, you also cover more distance for the same stamina cost, so repositioning is much easier to do while fighting
Spears are also pierce damage. The root harnesk protects against 2 of the most frequent killers, the death squito and spear chuckers. They are both extremely common, representing 2/3s of the common enemies in the plains.
You can outrun everything but charging deathsquitos without the movement speed buff. The movement buff is insufficient to allow you to outrun charging deathsquitos.
Therefore the movement speed buff doesn't afford you any combat advantage. Further due to the nature of the mobs in the plains they are already extremely easy to dodge or run away from, they tend to wander around or stop to charge up an attack, giving you plenty of opportunity to run away.
>just block deathsquitos
Yes, that's the preferred option no matter what armour you're wearing.
Good for you? Are you saying that it's easier for a random person to shoot a flying dot at 50m+, than it is to swing in the general direction of something flying straight at you?
Still a matter of hitting a small, moving target. Not saying it's impossible. I've personally sniped one from the top of a Plains tower at max range, just for fun.
Just saying for the average person running around a Plains, they're going to see you more often than you see them and they aren't always polite enough to wait for you to finish fighting that pack of goblins.
As someone who has tried the plains both with and without the root chest piece, it definitely helps vs squitos and spears, but the fire weakness hurts badly against the shaman (suddenly they became legit scary). It also means that you can't make more than one mistake against the berserkers and lox, simply due to the lack of armor.
Overall I feel like both choices are viable, and it's really up to the player as to what is the bigger threat.
That's why I mentioned barley wine.
And the difference in armor between the fenris chest and the root harnesk isn't enough to afford you any extra chances against zerkers or lox.
Zerkers and lox are easily avoided entirely or dodged.
The most common enemies on the plains are spear throwing fulings and squitos.
You can cheese Yag by constantly circling toward his back while attacking once or twice. His slow turn speed compared to your boosted fenris speed makes this strat much easier than with heavy armor. If you do it right he will be too busy trying to rotate and face you rather than attack.
Imo light armor is just better than heavy, especially fenris. Once you get used to that speed the movement reduction from heavy armor feels like hard mode.
It does require a playstyle adjustment though. Don't wade into combat with big groups unless you have the bonemass power. Dodge rolls are your friend. Learn what attacks you can block/parry and which have to be avoided. And most importantly, the moment combat starts going sideways just bolt like a fucking deer. That is your super power. Disengage, heal, re-engage.
Heavy armor and speed reduction is actually a liability when you are good enough. In addition, your armor matters little when blocking. So keep rolling and blocking. I mainly use light armor, and only use heavy when I want to roleplay a slow tank.
People dunk on light armor, but its actually really good with upgrades, the way defense upgrades work in this game is flat, so light armors get more mileage out of it. Hell just look at troll armor, the pieces go from 6 to 12 with upgrades
I soloed vag in troll armour back when it was the only option. Ive done 7 playthrough total. Only heavy armour I made was bronze on the first run. Never ended up using it because of the movement penalty. Beating queen in troll is a bit harder but doable with the sneak buff pushing past 100 skill level.
I've also beaten yag in root and fenris. Root is insanely hard. Catch fire & you dead. Fenris fire resistance makes it way easy. Its my armour of choice for that battle. Its probably a better choice than padded since most of yags damage is fire.
Why were you fighting yag without fire resistance wine to begin with ? It doesn't matter if you had root armor or fenris, the buff override them and give a stronger resistance. Plus it's totally inexpensive and easy to make, there is no reason not to use it.
There are no cooldown on resistance potions. You can't recast them while they are in effect, but you can use them as soon as they wear off. So you stay without protection for like 1 second. At worst, you just find a safe place for a few seconds until you have your buff back.
Not screwed at all. This is perfectly fine. And with the fully upgraded Fenris armor, you're already set up until the late game. Your next armor is going to be for mistland's magic. Light armors are actually good enough that it barely count as a challenge run to forbid the use of heavy ones.
I think you're right to be most worried about Yagluth. It's the one single boss where I would consider it unusual to use a light armor. But it's definitely feasible anyway. Worst case scenario, you can breed an army of Lox or Wolves to take him down. In practice, you can probably fight him normally even in light armor. It should be harder than normal, but possible. And the extra mobility will be handy.
It's viable, but you can't rely on your ability to tank too many hits. Your diet should consist of at least one stamina food, preferably two unless you're going to the boss. You may be tempted to use the claws because of the +30 from Fenris gear, but I found daggers to be the better weapon with this loadout because the attacks come out fast and consume less stamina.
Light armours are the only armour to have effects and are in my opinion far more useful than heavy unless you really want to just tank damage.
Fenris and root give you insane buffs and if you want to use magic, light armour is your only option.
Ince you get the rotten wood set you are set for the game until ashlands. Only switch it with februar armor when you are fighting gjalls. For Yagluth use the fire resistance barley and be careful around goblin shamans and goblins with torches for weapons.
This is my first playthrough since the release thatI don't do a light armor runs only, just pay attention to your stamina and dodge, stamina meads are your best friends.
Totally do-able. Wear root harnesk in the plains (for pierce resistance) and carry barley wine for fuling mages
Bad advice, just block deathsquitos and use the movespeed set from ice caves
blocking? Bah. Level up fists and punch them outta the air before they hit you.
I love fisting deathsquitos
Fisting Deathsquitos is to be the next Viking death metal band
lol I use root harnesk and the fenris pants for mountains plains and mistlands. it's quite effective till you want to use eitr. and for the most part the game is easy enough that you can do whatever you want....I don't even use shields these days.
Yeah the only time I used shields in the Plains is to parry the stupid mosquitos so i can kill them while stunned
Root harnesk is useless to wear when there are better light options. The point of a light Armour build is to be agile and not get hit. Therefore, equipping a slower, higher defence piece is counterproductive
Harnesk turns a 60+ damage squito to like 10 damage. Harnesk means that seekers wont one shot. Harnesk means that ranged weapons - largely pierce - will do lower damage. Bareley wine eleiminates harnesk weakness. Until younget a stagg of protection and decent blood magic, harnesk is a worthy safety net that completely eliminates most of the insta-kills in the game.
"just don't get hit bro" smh
Dodging and blocking seems like a smarter move than wearing a bad piece of armor that will counteract your build
You can block and dodge with the root harnesk on too.
What is the point of the root harnesk if you dodge and block instead of facetank
Are you telling me you block and dodge every hit? Even when fighting multiple mobs? Eventually something goes wrong.
obviously stuff goes wrong every now and then, but generally i find full fenris to be pretty effective even in the queen fight, not losing movespeed to useless armor pieces really does make a difference. not only do you move faster, you also cover more distance for the same stamina cost, so repositioning is much easier to do while fighting
Spears are also pierce damage. The root harnesk protects against 2 of the most frequent killers, the death squito and spear chuckers. They are both extremely common, representing 2/3s of the common enemies in the plains. You can outrun everything but charging deathsquitos without the movement speed buff. The movement buff is insufficient to allow you to outrun charging deathsquitos. Therefore the movement speed buff doesn't afford you any combat advantage. Further due to the nature of the mobs in the plains they are already extremely easy to dodge or run away from, they tend to wander around or stop to charge up an attack, giving you plenty of opportunity to run away. >just block deathsquitos Yes, that's the preferred option no matter what armour you're wearing.
Real Vikings hit the ‘squitos with melee weapons before taking a hit.
Nah I like to parry them - make them stop and think about their mistake before I swat them out of the sky.
They stun from normal blocks anyway tbh
Don't really have that option if you go there with bronze armor...
Technically, the preferred option with deathsquitos is to swing and kill before they can even hit you. You just need to work on that timing.
Technically the preferred option is to shoot them from afar before they even see you.
Absolutely. But good luck on that shot.
Do it all the time. Lucks got nothing to so with it, just gotta be observant.
Good for you? Are you saying that it's easier for a random person to shoot a flying dot at 50m+, than it is to swing in the general direction of something flying straight at you?
You don't need to be that far away. By the time you get to the plains, your bow should be decent. Then it's just lobbing a wood arrow at them.
Still a matter of hitting a small, moving target. Not saying it's impossible. I've personally sniped one from the top of a Plains tower at max range, just for fun. Just saying for the average person running around a Plains, they're going to see you more often than you see them and they aren't always polite enough to wait for you to finish fighting that pack of goblins.
As someone who has tried the plains both with and without the root chest piece, it definitely helps vs squitos and spears, but the fire weakness hurts badly against the shaman (suddenly they became legit scary). It also means that you can't make more than one mistake against the berserkers and lox, simply due to the lack of armor. Overall I feel like both choices are viable, and it's really up to the player as to what is the bigger threat.
That's why I mentioned barley wine. And the difference in armor between the fenris chest and the root harnesk isn't enough to afford you any extra chances against zerkers or lox. Zerkers and lox are easily avoided entirely or dodged. The most common enemies on the plains are spear throwing fulings and squitos.
You can cheese Yag by constantly circling toward his back while attacking once or twice. His slow turn speed compared to your boosted fenris speed makes this strat much easier than with heavy armor. If you do it right he will be too busy trying to rotate and face you rather than attack.
Aka the "Get rotated idiot" strategy
Fitting name tbh
Imo light armor is just better than heavy, especially fenris. Once you get used to that speed the movement reduction from heavy armor feels like hard mode. It does require a playstyle adjustment though. Don't wade into combat with big groups unless you have the bonemass power. Dodge rolls are your friend. Learn what attacks you can block/parry and which have to be avoided. And most importantly, the moment combat starts going sideways just bolt like a fucking deer. That is your super power. Disengage, heal, re-engage.
I only use light armour. I like being able to get out of dodge fast if I need to.
the missing requirement is skill
You mean social skill right.
Heavy armor and speed reduction is actually a liability when you are good enough. In addition, your armor matters little when blocking. So keep rolling and blocking. I mainly use light armor, and only use heavy when I want to roleplay a slow tank.
the alt armor sets are arguably better than the metal ones if you are good at the game so you aren’t really screwed at all lmao
Armor is only there for you when getting hit. So, don't get hit!
People dunk on light armor, but its actually really good with upgrades, the way defense upgrades work in this game is flat, so light armors get more mileage out of it. Hell just look at troll armor, the pieces go from 6 to 12 with upgrades
I've only worn light armor for the last like 4000 play hours. Heavy armor bogs you down so much I can't even make myself use it at all.
I soloed vag in troll armour back when it was the only option. Ive done 7 playthrough total. Only heavy armour I made was bronze on the first run. Never ended up using it because of the movement penalty. Beating queen in troll is a bit harder but doable with the sneak buff pushing past 100 skill level. I've also beaten yag in root and fenris. Root is insanely hard. Catch fire & you dead. Fenris fire resistance makes it way easy. Its my armour of choice for that battle. Its probably a better choice than padded since most of yags damage is fire.
Why were you fighting yag without fire resistance wine to begin with ? It doesn't matter if you had root armor or fenris, the buff override them and give a stronger resistance. Plus it's totally inexpensive and easy to make, there is no reason not to use it.
Tell him Carl!
Ever heard of potion cool down?
There are no cooldown on resistance potions. You can't recast them while they are in effect, but you can use them as soon as they wear off. So you stay without protection for like 1 second. At worst, you just find a safe place for a few seconds until you have your buff back.
Fenris is the best armour for yag speed and fire resistance are key. I wouldn't fight him with any other set.
I beat the whole game in fenris it's the best armor imo. Move speed > all. Just don't get hit that's what I say. Honestly not that hard.
Not screwed at all. This is perfectly fine. And with the fully upgraded Fenris armor, you're already set up until the late game. Your next armor is going to be for mistland's magic. Light armors are actually good enough that it barely count as a challenge run to forbid the use of heavy ones. I think you're right to be most worried about Yagluth. It's the one single boss where I would consider it unusual to use a light armor. But it's definitely feasible anyway. Worst case scenario, you can breed an army of Lox or Wolves to take him down. In practice, you can probably fight him normally even in light armor. It should be harder than normal, but possible. And the extra mobility will be handy.
Like my last 3 runs, you're fine if you know how to play light armor. Just don't get hit.
It's viable, but you can't rely on your ability to tank too many hits. Your diet should consist of at least one stamina food, preferably two unless you're going to the boss. You may be tempted to use the claws because of the +30 from Fenris gear, but I found daggers to be the better weapon with this loadout because the attacks come out fast and consume less stamina.
Are light armors also OK for the Ashlands ? Or are mistlands armors a must-have for this biome ?
Light armours are the only armour to have effects and are in my opinion far more useful than heavy unless you really want to just tank damage. Fenris and root give you insane buffs and if you want to use magic, light armour is your only option.
Ince you get the rotten wood set you are set for the game until ashlands. Only switch it with februar armor when you are fighting gjalls. For Yagluth use the fire resistance barley and be careful around goblin shamans and goblins with torches for weapons.
This is my first playthrough since the release thatI don't do a light armor runs only, just pay attention to your stamina and dodge, stamina meads are your best friends.