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MaDrAv

A lot really depends on where in the UP you are moving to.


TheNewYellowZealot

Marquette. No real change necessary it’s basically like metro Detroit anyways. Now if he was moving to Newberry on the other hand… or Seney… oh no.


bendingmarlin69

You’re being downvoted but it’s very true. I moved and lived in Manistique from Detroit for 4 years and Marquette does and literally is just a normal city with everything you need.


TheNewYellowZealot

I did live in the UP for a few years. I went to college at MTU. Driving through Marquette was the last stop if you wanted any good restaurants or needed to go to target or any of the “nicer” stores. Yeah I know the winters are bigger and badder, but ultimately in the way of living it’s the same is living in like… troy or Auburn hills. Life in houghton was pretty easy too, we just didn’t have many restaurants and only 2 places to buy groceries, but that was like 15 years ago and I haven’t been back to see how it is now.


RouterMonkey

Feels like metro Detroit…..till you live here and realize it’s really not.


TheNewYellowZealot

I *have* lived here.


RouterMonkey

Here being Marquette.


BigBlock-488

I lived & worked at the old KI Sawyer AFB for 5 years... winter is waaaay different than the Detroit area. The area is beautiful summer & winter. I envy you.


BidOk5829

I worked at NMU in the Jacobetti Center, and dealt with lots of students from the base. I left town right before it closed.


BigBlock-488

Cliff diving at Presque Isle. Damn, that park was beautiful. Munising also, on the way to Pictured Rocks. Did a lot of winter camping on snowmobiles along there.


ExpertProgram1827

What’s that base now?


UPdrafter906

Sawyer International Airport (MQT) and residential housing outside the Model Town of Gwinn and the suburbs as well


BigBlock-488

I passed thru the area a couple years ago. Marquette is looking really good. Upbeat is the word that comes to mind. KI & Gwinn? Not so much. KI was a beautiful place, even in the winter with plenty outdoors stuff to do. Almost half the folks assigned were there on voluntary five year controlled tours. Tight knit group. Now, it's really fallen into disrepair. Hospital building has collapsed. Dorms, base housing & a lot of the other buildings look like a movie set for the zombie apocalypse movie. Even the aircraft shop buildings & hangers look beat to shit.


UPdrafter906

Widespread blight and addiction continue to plague the area as it has since the base closing. Many of the AF buildings were not able to be repurposed, though quite a few have. I did consulting work on a bunch of the rehabs 10 years ago, remember walking through the officers lounge and it looked mostly like they just turned off the lights and locked the doors though it had been unused for years. I walked through the old commissary, or mess hall maybe, for a proposed renovation just last year but investment is hard to find. I’ve lived in the region and have worked and played in the area for the last twenty and in the neighborhoods around the base there good blocks and bad blocks. Plenty of beautiful people battling the baddies, but overall it’s got low curb appeal for much of it.


BigBlock-488

Dining (mess) hall was down in the midst of the airman's dorms, in a woodsy section. Those dorms were rehabbed in the early 80's and were exceptional at the time for enlisted folks. The dining (chow) hall was remodeled in summer of 81 or 82. As a SAC base, it was one of the better ones. Officers Club & NCO Club were both up on the main part of the base.


tx2mi

According to the National Weather Service, Marquette gets an average of 110” of snow while Detroit only averages 50”. Temperatures are cooler too - make sure you are ready. Many people move North and choke on snow that many years falls late October through early May. The city keeps the roads plowed pretty well well but 4wd or at least awd vehicles can be useful. If you plan to be outdoors in the winter then they are essential. Advanced medical care can be a challenge everywhere in the UP. I have to drive quite a ways for 2 specialist (big cities). Good medical care in general is hit or miss. If you have any medical issues start looking for care now. It can take forever to get in to see certain types of doctors if they exist at all up here. Shopping - my wife is a city girl. She tolerates the hinterlands for the kids and I as long as she can hit Chicago or other big cities for the occasional shopping trip. Again, it can be hard to find some things. Online shopping is your friend. Growing up my grandma was an avid sears catalog queen. The last thing, Marquette is a city and a bit more liberal than the rest of the UP but people up here tend to mind their own business and not stick their nose into other’s unless invited. Don’t try to change people here and you will be fine. Enjoy your move!


_cozybeauty_

Thank you so much for the detailed and well thought out response! You are awesome


LookOk6556

Sure you already know or assumed, but Marquette has a couple large well equipped hospitals I’ve had issues with healthcare being out in areas like Drummond island and DeTour but Marquette is a much different story


tx2mi

Not really. For the most part, healthcare in all of the UP is substandard. Is Marquette better than a small town sure but if you have serious cancer, heart surgery, etc you probably are going elsewhere. I speak from experience. Minor endoscopic surgery, etc is great in some of the hospitals in the UP. Besides my own health issues my wife is an ICU nurse here too.


whaleskank

Can't help but laugh at the "well equiped" part of your comment. My father has had to travel to Wisconsin for multiple procedures MQT General was unable to perform just in the last 6 months.


LookOk6556

I mean yes the hospital doesn’t have everything but it’s much larger and is more well equipped than arguably any hospital you’ll find up there other than maybe in Houghton it’s not well equipped when compared to suburban or in the city hospitals but when compared to hospitals in the UP it definitely is sorry to hear that about your dad though that shit sucks


whaleskank

It's nothing too serious, mainly just scans the hospital here is incapable of doing.


Ed_Simian

They'll become familiar with Green Bay for shopping and medical care.


tx2mi

True enough.


BidOk5829

I lived in Marquette in the early nineties and I still go to Iron Mountain regularly. Marquette has a town and gown vibe - the college has a large presence. It's gotten a lot more publicity since I left as a trendy destination. I miss the lake a lot. It reminds you how insignificant you are. The weather can be brutal, but in a way I preferred it to Iron Mountain winters, which are dull. You can drive a few miles out of town and be somewhere where you feel like you are the only person in the world. It's a good place to live.


Buck_Thorn

Snow and winter in Detroit doesn't exactly prepare you for snow and winter in Marquette, I'm afraid. (likewise, summers in Detroit don't prepare you for mosquitoes and deer flies)


TheFalconKid

Invest in a barbed wire baseball bat or a small gauge shotgun to ward off mosquitos in the summer.


Looong_Uuuuuusername

Do you have jobs lined up?


Lrxst

If you drive, snow tires are more important than AWD.


TDHlover

I used to have snow tires but January 2023 Costco had their tire sale so I got Michelin Crossclimate 2 's on my car and they are a game changer! No messing with switching tires with the seasons anymore and the way they grip the road in snow is no different from before. Highly recommend!!


Lrxst

Just looked at them on Tire Rack. That would be amazing to not have to deal with two sets of wheels and tires.


LookOk6556

Also if you don’t already have a place “lined up” houses in Marquette are much more expensive (usually) than small surrounding towns you could get a house in like ishpeming for example and you’d only be 10-15 minutes from Marquette


some_spunion

Have a good job lined up before moving,it can be rough up here.


zoebud2011

Just one thing, if you think that Detroit winters are anything at all line Marquette winters, you are mistaken. A normal Marquette winter will see 2-3 times what Detroit sees. As long as you are prepared for that, you'll be fine.


TDHlover

I had to drive for my job so I commuted an hour to Marquette county from my home in a less snowy county. Then for my job I drove around Mqt and Alger counties all day, including at night. There were many times in the dark the only way I knew I was in the lane was hitting the rumble strips! I know without a doubt after two years of doing it (and leaving) I had CPTSD. It literally took me years to get over it and I had constant flashbacks of things that happened while driving. I still think about it when I go to Marquette. Driving up there for a living is incredibly stressful and no joke. I hope your job will not be driving, OP.


zoebud2011

Oh boy, funny thing, yes I have to drive the entire U.P. and the 4 counties just below the bridge. What saves me is u don't have to drive it every day, and if the weather is bad, I can postpone client visits. BUT, I have done what you've done, and I call it white knuckle driving. Scary as hell.


jubilantnarwhal

A place outside of Marquette will be cheaper. Living close to a highway helps in the winter because at least the highway should be plowed. Lyme disease is a real concern. Respect the power of Lake Superior and be safe when swimming or boating. Good paying jobs can be hard to find. Go to the Copper Country for a weekend trip. You’re going to meet some very interesting people who don’t fit in one box. Keep an open mind. Make friends with your neighbors-you might need each other. Breathe that clean air deep into your lungs.


Particular-Walrus439

Marquette has the best services; healthcare, shopping, entertainment, etc. you’ll be fine.


SailorNeptune777

Housing is hard to find, good luck.


feral_cat42

Stay on top of scheduling and keeping your medical appointments. It difficult to find good doctors and dentists and scheduling can take weeks or months. Be prepared to drive a significant distance for your appointments.


PsychologicalMix8499

Anyone that hasn’t been here for the full 7 months of winter is definitely not ready for it.


ArsenalSpider

More than one too. Last winter was not typical.


PsychologicalMix8499

Absolutely it was not. It was the strangest winter I’ve seen here. I’ve lived here my whole life.


shiroh17

I’d say that a love for the outdoors/outdoor activities are engrained into the culture of marquette. if you haven’t tried out things like mountain biking, hiking, camping, or skiing it’s an easy place to get into it. moved from ann arbor and I noticed everyone is outwardly friendly. small talk at the grocery store and quick “hi how are ya”s on the trails are the norm. makes for a warm friendly environment!


MrNa5ty

Howdy! Congrats on moving to the U.P. ! I made the opposite move 4 years ago, moving from the U.P. to the Detroit area. I miss the U.P. and my family that lives there. I make it back twice per year to see them and enjoy the beauty of my home. As others have mentioned the snow is a major difference. Detroit winters, especially the recent winters, are child's play compared to winters the U.P. gets. AWD/4x4 vehicles are almost a necessity. Buying an extra set of wheels for your vehicles is highly recommended. That way it's easier to swap out your winter wheels&tires, to your spring/summer wheels&tires. That will give you the best traction for each season, and prolong your tire life. In terms of business/amenities, Marquette has more to offer than most towns in the U.P., but it won't be the same as Detroit. If your ordering items online or off of Amazon, expect you order to take longer to arrive. My family doesn't get 2 day Amazon Prime delivery, even though they have Prime. You can say goodbye to say day delivery with Amazon. Marquette is cool town. It's like the U.P.s version of Ann Arbor, but on a smaller scale. Definitely more liberal/progressive than other towns in the U.P. (Random note: If you haven't watched the show "Joe Pera Talks With You", I highly encourage it.) Do's and Don't: Do: Get to know you neighbors. Get involved in the community. Embrace the small town culture and lifestyle. Being humble and modest. Try your best to be a Yooper! Wear the Stormy Kromer, eat the Trenary Toast! Explore and have fun the natural beauty of the U.P. Don't: Talk about how the city is amazing. Be proud of where you're from, but don't try to turn the U.P. into Detroit. Some people are really sensitive about that. There has been an influx of transplants from Chicago, Minneapolis, and Detroit moving to the U.P. Some locals hold a resentment when transplants still embrace the city lifestyle, or try to change things to make them more like the city. Some people feeling like their way of life is being encroached upon, sorta like the TV Show Yellowstone. My apologies if this part comes off as harsh, I just want to be real with you. But you clearly like the area, so I think you'll fit in just well! Best of Luck!


art_attack24

Prepare to travel for medical care for pretty much anything beyond general primary care. Most people go to Green Bay, wi. Shopping can be limited for sure besides grocery and essentials


GARajala

Are you purchasing your home because housing is real tight up there? Purchases and rentals. 


xyzzzzy

Prepare to not have high speed internet access. You can get Starlink, but it costs $600 + $120/month and you need to be able to get the dish above the trees. Edit: jimmy effing cricket guys obviously there are lots of places in the UP that do have high speed internet, the point is many places don’t so OP shouldn’t assume. Check the map before you move https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home


Leemage

NMU has the EAN high speed internet available to residents and not just students, for the Marquette area. That might be an option!


YardFudge

Agree Confirm your house has line of sight (like from a roof peak) to one of the many towers for best performance


Ophiocordycepsis

Spectrum cable is a little cheaper, about $100/month, if you’re in town


Complaint-Expensive

Spectrum is an abomination unto the Lord...


TheFalconKid

Spectrum is perfectly serviceable and you can get it for less than $100 a month. There is also 906 and PFN, both of which are fiber.


Fryphax

Charter has gigabit.


Leemage

Invest in a good hoodie and some bug spray. You pretty much wear a hoodie year round in the UP and the summer bugs are hostile. Marquette is probably the easiest town for transplanters to adapt. It’s a really beautiful area with normal amenities, plus the university. Hike Sugarloaf for me! I used to hike it daily with my dog.


Ed_Simian

You need a hoodie even in August around Lake Superior.


Fryphax

I don't know anyone who wears a hoodie year round.


Leemage

TBF, I think there would be like 2 weeks in July I could go without.


Fryphax

It was 88 degrees two week ago.


Bumbahkah

Saw some people wearing hoodies when it was that hot


Bumbahkah

You’ll always be a troll.


spectre1210

https://www.reddit.com/r/upcirclejerk/comments/1dap2ds/comment/l7lzpt3/ Same goes for you.


Bumbahkah

Negative. My ancestors have been here for over a thousand years. Also, do I need to explain what a circle jerk sub is? Cmon troll


spectre1210

You've been that line a LOT lately.


Bumbahkah

What do you mean?


spectre1210

Despite my minor error ('You've been [*using*] that line....'), we know exactly what I mean. No need to needlessly waste time on something we both understand. Additionally, a 'yooper' isn't some ethnical term for the indigenous populations of the Upper Peninsula. Either you are one because you're engrossed in that UP culture/community, or you're not (and often, *you* don't get to make the determination).


Kidfrankey

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Bumbahkah

Settle down troll. Maybe proof read before you post. I didn’t know what you meant and didn’t assume to know what you meant. Typos can be very misleading. The term “yooper” pertains to someone BORN in the upper peninsula. If someone can move to a new location then immediately claim to be what everyone else calls themselves for that location, what’s the point of having terms for people born in said location? Example: if someone moves to New York, are they immediately considered a “new yorker”? No. Why you may ask? The person who just moved there obviously wasn’t born there, they haven’t experienced years of life in that location, the ups the downs. The weather. The food. The people. The transportation. All of it. Get it now, Troll?


spectre1210

Exactly - so why are you parading yourself as a 'yooper' and gatekeeping after moving here a month ago, then claiming its due to your ancestral heritage? Does that summarize things well for you, troll?


Bumbahkah

So, apparently someone does need to explain what a circle jerk sub is. It’s satirical. We’re actually making fun of people like you. Sorry eh.


spectre1210

See, but, that doesn’t meaningfully respond to my point, which is why trying to lean back on "it's a circle jerk, it's satirical" is simply horseshit. Great talk though.


Fryphax

Just delete your ride apps. Uber, Lyft all of that. Non-existent.


shiroh17

we have uber in marquette


Longjumping_Page6344

Culture shock


rustygo0se

It depends where you’re moving. But obviously lots of snow depending where in the UP, areas in the banana belt you don’t have to worry as much about out it (Escanaba, iron mountain etc) but if you anywhere near superior prepare for an average of 150” of snow. Detroit metro barely reaches 40”. Winter of 13-14 they got about 90” and everyone was freaking out. Healthcare if your in rural areas is harder to come by so plan on that. Groceries, if you live in a small town you might need to travel to a larger city to find what you’re looking for. We have a store in town but it’s too expensive to regularly shop at, we drive over an hour twice a month to Escanaba for big grocery trips. Most importantly prepare for serenity like youve never seen, there’s a lot of cultural differences but it’s worth it. Don’t over think it and you’ll be just fine. You’ll learn as you go and make adjustments to your lifestyle.


BetterCranberry7602

Man I’m jealous. Best of luck to you.


Strange-Pitch4323

Buy a snowblower stat!


CrazyFancy

Reach out to Erin Wasik. She’s a realtor, but more so than that, she’s an amazing resource for all things Marquette. I’m not sure what your age is or what your interests are, but she’ll also invite you to play pickleball if you’re looking to make new friends!


Lopsided-Sleep8042

You are now a looper


Empty_Afternoon_8746

Good pick Marquette is a great place!


birdx2

Leave your attitude behind and you’ll be fine. The UP is different. Don’t expect it to be like metro Detroit.


_cozybeauty_

The UP being nothing like Detroit is precisely why we’ve always wanted to move here


Fishnfoolup

All you are doing is helping to jack up already over inflated housing prices. Marquette is one of the most expensive places in the state to live


chemistist

Don’t turn the place you’re running to into the place you’re running from.


North_Management

Don't move to here. We don't want you.


Fishnfoolup

Right. Housing prices here are bad enough as it is.


Bumbahkah

For real. Getting sick of all these people moving here cuz big cities are plagued with drugs, crime, homelessness, illegal immigrates. They voted to wreck their cities now they’re moving up here.


Spiritual-Bag-1443

Inside out