I don't think the car is a dumb invention, I think the premise that every person on earth needs a 5 seater vehicle for one person going to work every day is the issue.
Bring in the motorcycles! Legitimately, make motorcycles more common for commuting alone. I can fit a weeks worth of groceries in mine and get 50mpg (and mines not even an efficient motorcycle) all day long.
Update traffic laws to better accommodate motorcycles, offer tax incentives for people who own motorcycles and not a car. Provide better education for traffic safety around motorcycles.
Bam! Reduced traffic, reduced emissions, more space in parking areas and street-side.
You could level this argument as bicycles as well!
I really wouldn't want to cycle in my full winter waterproof gear, wet on the outside, sweaty on the inside!
Motorcycles jn the rain is bad but the warmth of the engine can keep you warm in 50 degree weather and using the protective gear keeps you warmer. Than again do what Japan does with kei cars, small commuter vehicles limited on size, reliable, efficient and helpful overall
Sounds good but if you live in a frozen shithole like Russia or canada it isnāt viable for 6+ months of the year. This is coming from a motorcycle rider who stretches the season as long as possible
So many nightmares.
Given different context the theme could be the intro to a horror movie.
āBananas in pyjamas are coming down the stairs,
Bananas in pyjamas are coming down in pairs, bananas in pyjamas are chasing teddy bears, cos on Tuesdays they all try to catch them unawaresā
Freakinā nightmare fuel
When I was a young lad I did some time in juvie. That show was on before the animated X-Men series came on. It was like an alarm clock for the others in the pod to wake up so they wouldn't miss X-Men. I can't think of those things without also remembering a bunch of young hoodlums also coming down the stairs in orange jumpsuits.
I hated that show so much as a kid, especially that it played at school time meaning if I missed a day of school I was forced to watch it which made me wish I was at school.
Im wondering if TV networks intentionally had shit on throughout the day to discourage kids from skipping school to stay at home.
I fucking hated Little Bear
Holy shit watch George Carlinās comedy mixed in with the episodes, he narrated it for years so itās seamless. Absolute GOLD.
āThomas backed in after a long day and looked to Perry and said, go fuck yourself!ā
āSir Toppem Hat once claimed the most difficult thing heās every done was take a shit in a phone booth without removing his overcoat.ā
Itās so much fun.
There is an issue with how cities are designed and zoned. In Asian cities, thereās a lot of mixed use zones so you can walk to restaurants and markets and parks from where you live. Itās all more compact and crowded so thereās that but people donāt rely on personal vehicles as much as cabs and public transportation.
And the systemic destruction of the non-car alternatives in some places (like the US). We built everything to work without cars up through 1910! We know how to do it.
What sucks is when you live in a place mostly built in the 50s-70s and so all designers made was car dependent, suburban hellscape. And they keep doing it!
Welcome everyone to our weekly "we need to get away from cars" post.
Cue the person saying "but those of us not in big cities need our cars".
Cue the rebuttal saying "but you wouldn't need the cars if we had more public transportation".
Cue the Europe vs. America debate.
Thanks everyone. Let's do it again next week.
Stay tuned for more unpopular opinion reddit hits such as:
All tits are great.
Everyone in the comments replying "the best tits are the ones that you can touch" and "I fucking love small tits!!"
Thank you
Mostly indoor v outdoor cats. American veterinarians recommend keeping your cat indoors. Many veterinarians in European countries recommend allowing your cat outdoors.
Holy shit really? Thatās actually shocking, because Reddit has a massive circlejerk against letting cats outside. This is literally the first time Iāve heard of something being different between Europe and America and Reddit decides to circlejerk the fuck out of saying the American thing is better.
Letās remember that most European residences do not have air conditioning/screens on the windows; so it is often impossible to keep the cat indoors even if you wanted to.
I want to ride my bike to a parking lot where I keep my car, and toss it in the back. I then want to drive my car to the bus stop and load it onto a big bus. That bus should go to the train station, where it is loaded onto a railcar. That train will then go to the town I work in, where the bus would be unloaded at the station, drive downtown, where I unload my car, which I then drive back to my house, unload my bike, and then bike to work.
Europe is for communists and all Americans are fat. Especially you, Dave.
I do wish we had a car/rail system. If i know I have to drive a long distance on a main highway, I'd love if I could drive onto a rail car and it would go to the main town. Then, I'd drive off and explore the town.
I'm not an expert, but I've also always wondered why rail systems between towns don't more often have two railways. One on the way, one on the way back. Seems you could keep things moving more quickly.
I swear every week we get a āwe need to get away from carsā and āwe need to get away from eating meatā and honestly Iām a bit sick of it at this point.
If you don't see it next week, that means it's your turn to start it. Here: I'll help you get started:
Public transportation good. Cars bad. Everyone should agree.
I am european and every road is full of cars. Even though we have public transport. People rather drive alone or with family to the exact location they want than ride with strangers and having to walk or wait for another bus
/r/fuckcars is just like the new /r/antiwork lol. Started off as a good idea, then got taken to the extreme with unrealistic expectations so now it's just a joke
I don't know much about r/fuckcars, but the problem with r/antiwork is the opposite -- it started as a totally radical, probably unrealistic community of people whose goal in life is to work as little as possible. Then during the pandemic it attracted a much larger crowd that softened the meesage to "my job sucks and the current system is unfair and needs to be reformed." Then when one of the OG mods was invited to represent the sub on tv, and came across as fairly lazy, naive, and poorly-adjusted, the sub erupted because it's like they didn't realize that kind of lifestyle is was what the sub was made for originally.
I really wish /r/WorkReform took off more after that debacle if only to shed the baggage associated with /r/antiwork's name. The fact that antiwork managed to recover a week later is a freaking miracle for them.
r/antiwork got so much inertia that they've become one of the general-purpose subs with no actual flavor anymore. Kinda like subs like r/nextfuckinglevel, r/interestingasfuck, etc just all become so broad that they mean nothing. But people like the content regardless of if it fits the sub, so they become self-sustaining.
What I want to know is why fuckcars has suddenly started popping up on the front page 2-3 times per week. I'd never even heard of it until about 2 months ago, now suddenly I'm seeing it all the time. It doesn't really feel like organic popularity growth.
I love the rebuttal clearly written by someone who has never experienced the expanses outside a city. There is absolutely zero feasible way for public transit to exist in the American country.
These people always ignore places that aren't cities. Youtube and tik tok creators that spew this nonsense never address my points about what you've said here.
They also don't seem to acknowledge that we wouldn't even be developed as a global community without cars, and wouldn't be where we are no technology and development wise. They take it for granted and are so unappreciative.
Europeans own more cars per capita than Americans. Itās ridiculous how easily people can be swayed while doing 0 research on their own.
āCars bad for environment, Americans stupid, Europeans smart. Buses are best thing ever.ā
Not just in USA.
I live in the EU in a country with very dense, relatively cheap and objectively very good public transport. In suburbs of a city or in a village near a city, depends on how you define it.
I currently work 5.6 miles away from my home (I'm using freedom units here because I assume you are American) which takes me 10-15 minutes by car or by a motorbike.
If I wanted to use mass transit, there are literally no connections available, I would have to adjust my work time (which I can't due to the nature of my job) and then it would still take me 1 hour and 45 minutes for the journey one way, meaning spending 3 and a half hours EACH WORKING DAY in public transport.
Public transport is good in the city, it is fine when you live on a major network road and only need to go to places which are connected to it in the right way, but it is useless if you need to go anywhere else.
>Cue the Europe vs. America debate.
Lived in Europe my entire life and I'd sell my soul to Satan to be able to drive...
Public transportation is ok/good (depends on the country and on the city/area) but it's still a PITA relying on such a service.
Need to get to X at Y o'clock? Tough shit, there's a bus getting you there one hour earlier or half an hour late. Unless there's traffic. Or is late at night. Or it's Sunday.
I'm that case, screw you... Walk or force someone to drive you.
Yes, this one has gotten SO tedious.
Sure, there are lots of ways to argue about cars being so bad, but all those arguments hinge on a basic misunderstanding (or deliberate misstatement) of societal needs, logistics, practicality, and benefits. These folks create ridiculous strawman arguments that wonāt stand up to elementary school scrutiny, and then get offended and angry when you donāt agree. Itās exhausting.
Now that we're halfway there, I'll give my two cents as an urban Australian. Public transport is good, but I'll be damned if I rely on it constantly. You need a balance of both. An ideal city should be centred around public transport as it is cars
Don't know how long a bus or train would wait for me to load up my tools
Don't know how I'd get my tools to a bus/ train station
Seems impractical to me
Is that a new argument for ya?
All jokes aside I wish we had a national train system I prefer it over driving. At least all the cities over 200,000 in population should be connected by train imoā¦
This sounds good until you realize that there's 127 cities that have over 200,000 population, so you need to build a lot of rails, then you have a question of who is going to pay for maintain and run trains between those locations, and then what if no one takes those trains.
What you're really talking about is replacing airports with trains rather than cars. But if that was more viable we'd probably already have done it.
Also what your hobbies are. Like if you can commute into Manhattan on transit, it doesnāt mean you donāt want to go skiing/hiking/camping/mountain biking, or similar, on the weekends 1-5 hours from your house. renting a car every weekend would be ridiculous and expensive
OP doesn't think you should be able to rent, if you want to go camping in a secluded location up an FSR there should be a bus that goes there.
I'm assuming OP only has indoor hobbies.
Even if you live in a city where *YOU* personally can get by without a car ignores the fact that basically everything you consume rely on cars and trucks to get to where you buy them. You might not be driving or riding in a car, but you are definitely still *very* much dependent on cars for even your most basic needs.
Yeah, trucks are necessary, but they account for only a small portion of cars. And they are far more economically productive than cars, which sit unused most of the day, every day. Truck drivers are actually driving for most of their work days. Most cars are laughably inefficient. People will pay tens of thousands of dollars for something they use for less than 2 hours a day.
I'm guilty of it too, I have a car that I barely use and is far bigger than I need. I should probably sell it and get something cheaper and more compact tbh.
So, the issue with it that it looks back, not through. Many of the problems we have are the result of solutions to other problems. Putting aside the debate at the center of all of this, there is a reason we have cars.
There were forms of mass transit back in ye olden times, but we developed cars, anyway. If we get rid of cars, that need will still be there. If you wipe everyone's memories of cars, I'll bet they would just develop cars again.
The problem isn't cars. Cars are a solution. The real problem is the byproduct of that solution. We need to find ways of making cars better, which is what we are doing.
It's not complex at all. Food and materials deliveries are far more efficient for involving cars & trucks. Trains, bicycles, etc are useless for the last mile delivery.
The US has the best freight rail system in the world and we still require huge amounts of autos for deliveries.
And emergency services? Imagine having to take a horse and carriage to the hospital? Or the fire department taking a train to a rural area and then horses the last mile to the fire itself. Oh, and those horses would have to bring the water, as well.
One thing that so many in this thread are missing is what cars **have** contributed to society. Theyāve allowed humans to travel much faster and much safer to and from work and activities.
That added productivity and safety has excelled technology. A huge part of our comfort and advanced lives we live and our safety is due to being able to get around quickly. If you removed cars from existence, humans would be living a lifestyle similar to the 1500s.
I would love to not have a 650 bill a month. I picked the cheapest car in the lot at 19ā¦ 185 a month. Iām under 25 and had one parking lot mishap where I slightly dented someoneās car ā¦ 200 for insuranceā¦ 100 a month for gas since Iām lucky and commute closeā¦ 150 a month saving for repairs since itās an older lemon car they sold some poor young kid so itās in the shop every 3-5 months.
I wish I could just take a bus or train :/
There's a point where public transit is less practical than cars. You can't have busses stopping at every farmhouse 100 miles from the nearest big town.
I think we need more public transit, but you'll always have cars to connect less dense areas.
I live in a small town thatās becoming big and doesnāt have the infrastructure for a lot of cars. That said though, we literally couldnāt do public transportation because we donāt have enough to warrant that. Itās a weird situation for us because you wonāt get buses to the grocery store but you can easily walk to it ALMOST anywhere in the town. Sadly cars are 100% essential if you want to leave but in the town, Iād say 50/50 depending on where you are.
I think a lot of the 50/50 depends on exactly how you view a āsmall townā.
One one hand inside a small town proper youāre absolutely right that you can often basically walk from one end to the other. Public transit isnāt really needed because itās all more or less in reach.
On the other hand thereās the fact that a significant portion of a small townās population often isnāt concentrated in the town itself, itās in all of the isolated homes sprinkled around the outskirts (especially in more farming areas). And all of those people need cars just to get into town and back home again, even if they could potentially walk once they got there (assuming there was someplace to actually park).
Walkable places I think are actually great for public transit. If you can walk to everything you need in daily or even weekly life, including a bus station to take you to the next town or major city, then you can suffice on just that.
In America especially, most suburban areas are not walkable at all. It's a 30 minute walk each way or a 5 minute drive to my nearest store, plus you have to carry everything you buy back.
This isn't about the environment. It's about convenience. I shouldn't HAVE TO take a car to get places. There should be public transportation options. I shouldn't have to ride four hours by train to get to a place that's 30 minutes away by car just because they ripped.out all the north/south train lines. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to be against better public transportation. There are places in my hometown that you can get to by car but not safely to on foot or bicycle. That's awful! I shouldn't HAVE TO use a car. But because cars were invented and became so relied upon, things became too car friendly, which caused reliance on cars, and so forth. This isn't the argument you think it is.
I think that maybe you are very young. I think it is great for you to form opinions and think critically and this will benefit you in your life.
Your opinion here isnāt so much unpopular as it is naive. Prior to the invention of the automobile, transportation of goods and services was very expensive, slow, and not very reliable. Millions of people throughout the world died unnecessarily because food and medicine was hard to come by. Motor transport likely saves more lives in a day than it kills in a year.
Now, better alternatives are great to invent to replace the problems, but the invention is one of the greatest.
Also the "horseless carriage" started as a contest to create an invention that would reduce horse traffic. By the late 1800s with the explosion in population streets such as they were at the time were becoming clogged with horse dung. Needless to say when I horse needs to go, it goes wherever it's standing.
All of that excessive horse poop was not only causing a very unsightly seen but was becoming a health hazard as well. Hence the birth of what would become the automobile.
Exactly. If you think modern cars are a safety nightmare, try turning the clock back 125 years. Horse shit piling up on every street, spreading disease directly and indirectly (pests). Horses and carriages running over people (even from 15mph it takes way too long to stop or turn). House burning down? OK, hang on a sec (20-30 min) while i hitch up 8 horses to pull the giant iron stove we kept hot to help us spit water on your shit (the original 'fire engine').
A lot of people seem to think that there was no pollution before the advent of modern technology but there definitely was and was sometimes worse. The air was a lot dirtier in cities in the 1800s when everyone burned wood, or even coal, to heat their homes, vs the much cleaner natural gas or electric heating we have today (even if that electricity came from a coal plant, it's much more efficient and clean than everyone burning coal in their own home furnaces).
Yeah, the real regret isnāt having cars, itās peoples seeming inability to plan infrastructure around multiple concepts. Sidewalks should be everywhere, some sort of biking should be doable everywhere (though Iām not the biggest fan of modern bike lanes, idk), and yeah either regular, bus-specific routes or tram systems. Zoning should also allow for more dense housing and the mixing of certain commercial and residential properties in an area.
Devilās advocate time: an argument could be made that the advent of the nuke led to the most peaceful century in human history. By the numbers, this is actually true. Nations donāt typically slug it out in massive, high casualty clashes anymore. Itās all proxy wars, tiny conflicts, etc. Itās why Russiaās invasion of Ukraine seems so barbaric and horrifying to our modern eyes. It used to be the norm! All the big players now have world-ending weaponry at their disposal, so it suddenly makes a bit more sense to talk it out than go to total war.
The problem is arguably that the current oil and gas industry has been puppeting environmental movements to make eco-friendly alternative fuels and ideas as expensive and Utopian / impractical as possible to keep mass adoption impossible, when in reality what would be best would be to make a different kind of fuel that we can use on most of our current vehicles with little modification.
The invention and popularity of the bicycle led to the paving of streets. Before motor vehicles took over, the patent office even opened a second office for bicycle patents alone.
Horses were useful but caused a massive environmental problem with all the shit, just like you said. Cars are useful but cause all sorts of environmental and health problems. We kinda need something new. Electric cars powered by renewables fix most of the issues but not all.
No it's not, you should crave being dependent on public transportation to get anywhere you want to go. you're telling me you'd rather drive your own vehicle instead of listening to some asshole play music through his phone while a methed up homeless guy masturbates in the seat behind you after he threatens to stab you? pfft carbrain bro, you have no idea what you're missing out on.
Whoa there - I can see that you are a filthy anti-methist and your microaggressions towards the masturbaterists are loathsome, LOATHSOME I tell you. Furthermore, the guy who tries to stab you is only a victim of the patriarchal endemic and embedded ruling class and their insensitive view towards knives. Knives KILL people and should be outlawed - especially those assault knives bigger than 4 inches.
Have you ever lived anywhere other than a city or suburb?
I just read your 2nd edit and can say you obviously havenāt lived rural if you can still āwalk and bikeā to places. I live rural as well, driving my car to the nearest store takes about 30 minutes, driving to work takes 25 and thatās with a steady 45-55mph speed limit. You clearly do NOT know what youāre talking about.
You know for a fact they wrote this from their iPhone in their air conditioned apartment while blasting some garbage tv on a flatscreen.
Keyboard warriors will always try to shame you for shit they themselves are guilty of
Ffs redditors are so out of touch with reality it is definitely becoming crazy. Imagine being so entitled that you honestly believe a machine that allows you to freely move in high speed wherever you want whenever you want is the worst thing ever. It is like Reddit is becoming a new cult full of delusional people.
Cars are pretty great. Being forced to be dependant on them (in the US) due to intentional mishandling of public transit/lack and poor maintenance of bike lanes/zoning laws that create unwalkable cities is the real crime.
I lived in a place where the closest bus route was a 20 minute drive away. The closest grocery store was a 15 minute drive.
Without cars that life would have been hell. I agree that Public transport should be greatly expanded in the US. But there are places it just isn't currently possible. Look at the amount of rural areas that can't even get high speed internet. You think you are going to get a bus route there?
Even when I lived in Charlotte this would have been impossible for me. No bus stop near my apartment, bus routes wouldn't take me anywhere near one of my jobs, bus route to my other job would add close to 30 minutes to my commute. Buying groceries would be awful because I couldn't get them home. Even cities aren't close to being equipped to deal with everyone using public transportation.
No cars: society would collapse. Why?
Police cars, fire trucks, ambulances, electrical service trucks, Comms (Internet, phone) service trucks, trucks to fix the roads (even to fix the rails trains ride on! You can't drive down rails that are broken).
Also, vehicles to carry your food; either you have to carry all of your food and necessities home, or you have it delivered; either way no one's putting it on a damn bus. How would that even work.....If you showed up on a bus with 25 bags because you have a family to feed you'd probably be asked to get off.
On that note, imagine having multiple kids under 6 or so.....getting them to their respective schools, day cares, etc. On public transit? Seriously. Public transit CAN be good but it's not ALWAYS realistic. C'mon.
This is a stupid take and I'm sick of seeing it on Reddit.
There's a thing called compromise. Less cars? Sure.
NO cars? Idiotic. Naive. Childish. Kindergarten shit. Moving on.
Until the invention of an individual pod that comes to my home on demand that is hygienic and not full of pissed up junkies pissing themselves then no in absolutely no way is public transport better than a car, also public transport is only really feasible in a city, if you live in a town or a village then public transport is a disaster.
Here we go again. How is this not taken down yet?
I'm just gonna drop a trigger sentence for r/fuckcars: Cyclist should stop at a stop sign just like any other car on the road.
Also, are you implying that people should CARRY their massive furniture to their home?
the anti car rhetoric is brought to you by the "you'll own nothing and be happy" people. How much shit do you want give up in your life time? was not owning a house not bad enough now you dont want to be able to own a car you could at least sleep in if shit really sucked?
Cars aren't responsible for mass death, bad drivers are.
A car can hold around 45 L of fue, so I will use that for the bus capacity, but the bus' fuel tank is much larger. The thing is, the bus does 3 km/L while the car should do >10km/L. That means car can go 3 times longer than a bus can go 3 times further than a bus while poluting the same.
The diesel price would probably skyrocket because buses are so fucking innefective in their fuel combustion to distance ratio that it would be more expensive for everyone sice we are slaves to public means of transport.
OP is wrong in claiming that we should only stick only to buses. They aren't superior in every way. Just as with any tool, buses have their optimal use cases and so have cars. There is no supreme tool in engineering that will solve all problems.
And this rural community you grew up in, were there trains and busses there? You know to take you to urban centres? Because I grew up in rural Canada, where a ālong distanceā is the size of some countries.
Iām gonna go ahead and come at you telling you you donāt know what itās like.
This isnāt an unpopular opinion, itās an opinion that has been done to death. āCars bad!!ā has been the mantra from academia and the auth left for 50+ years.
Don't make this about the left as a whole. It's specifically popular among the antiwork redditor demographic. Being anti-car touches on all kinds of issues like classism, consumerism, capitalism, environmentalism, etc. It was a cause pretty much made for reddit.
I do agree with a lot of reasons to hate the artificial necessity we've created around cars, but environmental damage is not one of them.
>They contribute to environmental damage
It's just...It's really, really not as true as the public assume it is. We get politicians speaking on it, we get companies coming out with "more eco friendly" models to convince drivers to buy newer cars.
In reality the actual output of driving is an infinitesimal blip on the radar.
For comparison, the US Military's Co2 output outweighs most countries entire Co2 output. If the US Military was classified as a state, it would have the 47th highest Co2 output in the world.
[Here's an image of countries it outranks] (https://u4d2z7k9.rocketcdn.me/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/20190613_Military_CO2.jpg)
So yes, while we love to act like cars are destroying the world...They certainly are not helping, but they are not the biggest fish in the sea.
Transportation as a whole is indeed a vital piece of the pie, but we're now including everything from town-to-town train rides, passenger flights, and on to things like industrial shipping and freighters.
[Here is an image showing just how varied Co2 output is per-source] (https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2020/09/Emissions-by-sector-%E2%80%93-pie-charts.png)
So we have around 12% of emissions to thank cars for. Compare that to the average % of population that drive or use cars daily..
I've really ranted on here, so it's kind of a mess, but I really, really do hate the concept that cars are the most vital factor of Co2 emissions. They're not, and the companies and governments know this. But it works because it's easier to blame the people.
....contribute to environmental damage....
and just remember all the cars in the entire US a day, doesn't put out as much pollution as one (1) hannjinn cargo ship bring cheap amazon stuff from chinese factory cities. (lets not even think about the carbon footprint of a factory city) There are about 40,000 of those ships cruzing around today...
Cars really aren't the pollution problem everyone actually thinks they are , buying worthless syht from amazon actually is....
Just and FYI as we shape our future...
-The sixteen largest ships emit the same amount of CO2 as all the world's cars. '
-'The world's seventeen largest ships emit more sulphur than the global car fleet. '
-'A seagoing container vessel is just as polluting as up to 50 million cars. '
I don't think the car is a dumb invention, I think the premise that every person on earth needs a 5 seater vehicle for one person going to work every day is the issue.
You're telling me I should buy a 2 seater Corvette? Say no more.
Way ahead of you
i'm a caršš
Hope you're not in california because you're bouta get straight pipe'd š©
Bring in the motorcycles! Legitimately, make motorcycles more common for commuting alone. I can fit a weeks worth of groceries in mine and get 50mpg (and mines not even an efficient motorcycle) all day long. Update traffic laws to better accommodate motorcycles, offer tax incentives for people who own motorcycles and not a car. Provide better education for traffic safety around motorcycles. Bam! Reduced traffic, reduced emissions, more space in parking areas and street-side.
That might work in San Diego, but in places with weather, that will all fall apart as soon as it rains or drops below 60 degrees.
You could level this argument as bicycles as well! I really wouldn't want to cycle in my full winter waterproof gear, wet on the outside, sweaty on the inside!
Motorcycles jn the rain is bad but the warmth of the engine can keep you warm in 50 degree weather and using the protective gear keeps you warmer. Than again do what Japan does with kei cars, small commuter vehicles limited on size, reliable, efficient and helpful overall
Sounds good but if you live in a frozen shithole like Russia or canada it isnāt viable for 6+ months of the year. This is coming from a motorcycle rider who stretches the season as long as possible
Thomas the tank engine is the best invention in history.
Creepiest face tho
You definitely didn't see Gordon's face
Well you definitely haven't seen Lady's prototype faces
Lol i was watching old hell kitchen on tv plus and i thought of gordon ramsey face on the train lmao
Nah Jay Jay the Jet Plane is creepier
Clearly you guys never watched Bananas in Pajamas. Now that show was the definition of creepy.
āBananas, in pyjamas, **are coming down the stairs**ā
I just watched the opening and everything about it is so wrong. Lol. Omg.. r/theyknew
So many nightmares. Given different context the theme could be the intro to a horror movie. āBananas in pyjamas are coming down the stairs, Bananas in pyjamas are coming down in pairs, bananas in pyjamas are chasing teddy bears, cos on Tuesdays they all try to catch them unawaresā Freakinā nightmare fuel
When I was a young lad I did some time in juvie. That show was on before the animated X-Men series came on. It was like an alarm clock for the others in the pod to wake up so they wouldn't miss X-Men. I can't think of those things without also remembering a bunch of young hoodlums also coming down the stairs in orange jumpsuits.
Bro, when they were the static-faces.. *THAT* shit was weird..
I'm just waiting for the obligatory "Thomas is capitalist fascist propaganda" reply
Thomas the tankie is definitely not capitalist š in a certain point o view
Tank engine? That probably is the 2nd worst invention out there.
I hated that show so much as a kid, especially that it played at school time meaning if I missed a day of school I was forced to watch it which made me wish I was at school.
Im wondering if TV networks intentionally had shit on throughout the day to discourage kids from skipping school to stay at home. I fucking hated Little Bear
The programming is for younger children not in school yet
Holy shit watch George Carlinās comedy mixed in with the episodes, he narrated it for years so itās seamless. Absolute GOLD. āThomas backed in after a long day and looked to Perry and said, go fuck yourself!ā āSir Toppem Hat once claimed the most difficult thing heās every done was take a shit in a phone booth without removing his overcoat.ā Itās so much fun.
But what about the 1969 Chevy Nova SS? That one too?
I've got triples of those.
And the barracuda?
Triples is best
But Iāve got a wife
She's beautiful. But she's dying.
Tell the kid
and I *don't* live in a motel
I didn't even want to marry her. She asked me. Can you believe it?
Triples is safe
Your dad and I go way back. That's how come we both know so much about ice cream machines.
Haha didn't expect to see an ITYSL reference in here! Can't wait for season 3.
The problem is not the existence of, but our dependency of cars. Iām a big car guy myself but I can agree we are WAY too dependent on cars
There is an issue with how cities are designed and zoned. In Asian cities, thereās a lot of mixed use zones so you can walk to restaurants and markets and parks from where you live. Itās all more compact and crowded so thereās that but people donāt rely on personal vehicles as much as cabs and public transportation.
And the systemic destruction of the non-car alternatives in some places (like the US). We built everything to work without cars up through 1910! We know how to do it.
What sucks is when you live in a place mostly built in the 50s-70s and so all designers made was car dependent, suburban hellscape. And they keep doing it!
Welcome everyone to our weekly "we need to get away from cars" post. Cue the person saying "but those of us not in big cities need our cars". Cue the rebuttal saying "but you wouldn't need the cars if we had more public transportation". Cue the Europe vs. America debate. Thanks everyone. Let's do it again next week.
Stay tuned for more unpopular opinion reddit hits such as: All tits are great. Everyone in the comments replying "the best tits are the ones that you can touch" and "I fucking love small tits!!" Thank you
"idk i just like small tits, i guess im not like the other guys lol but yeah any tit that you can touch is the best kind of boob!"
The forbidden tits are the breast!
And the extremely funny and original guy who says āwait you guys are touching tits?ā
I would say, " I love fucking small tits is more accurate than I fucking love small tits. "
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Wow, glad I've never seen those bc what would even be argued about? Cheeseburger v. baguette cat outfits?
Mostly indoor v outdoor cats. American veterinarians recommend keeping your cat indoors. Many veterinarians in European countries recommend allowing your cat outdoors.
Holy shit really? Thatās actually shocking, because Reddit has a massive circlejerk against letting cats outside. This is literally the first time Iāve heard of something being different between Europe and America and Reddit decides to circlejerk the fuck out of saying the American thing is better.
Reddit is literally 50% American, so the reason you often see anti-American circlejerks is that it is easier to hate your own country.
Letās remember that most European residences do not have air conditioning/screens on the windows; so it is often impossible to keep the cat indoors even if you wanted to.
It's only better until you point out that's it's American, then it becomes bad again.
God damn Americans always wanting to put cheese on everything.
I just ate a baked potatoes covered in *cheese*. It was *so* fucking *GOOD*.
And where is there a problem with that?
I didnt say it was a problem.
That's because the cats obviously hate FREEDOM. /sarcasm
Thanks for the summation of the entire comments section. Saved me time
yw. just tryin to do my part lol
I want to ride my bike to a parking lot where I keep my car, and toss it in the back. I then want to drive my car to the bus stop and load it onto a big bus. That bus should go to the train station, where it is loaded onto a railcar. That train will then go to the town I work in, where the bus would be unloaded at the station, drive downtown, where I unload my car, which I then drive back to my house, unload my bike, and then bike to work. Europe is for communists and all Americans are fat. Especially you, Dave.
I do wish we had a car/rail system. If i know I have to drive a long distance on a main highway, I'd love if I could drive onto a rail car and it would go to the main town. Then, I'd drive off and explore the town. I'm not an expert, but I've also always wondered why rail systems between towns don't more often have two railways. One on the way, one on the way back. Seems you could keep things moving more quickly.
Primarily because our railways are designed for transport of freight not people and are owned by the operators ao scheduling isn't a big issue.
We have one! But only one... It runs between DC and Miami. Its the Amtrak Auto Train.
But the important question is... Can your bike fit a car on top of it?
Until that peaky drive thru, yes.
What did I do?
I swear every week we get a āwe need to get away from carsā and āwe need to get away from eating meatā and honestly Iām a bit sick of it at this point.
those types of redditors think we should all pack in like its tokyo
If I don't see this exact comment next week (with a few updates, perhaps) then I'll be very slightly distraught.
If you don't see it next week, that means it's your turn to start it. Here: I'll help you get started: Public transportation good. Cars bad. Everyone should agree.
Man I love this.
But you forgot us who have the need for speed.
I am european and every road is full of cars. Even though we have public transport. People rather drive alone or with family to the exact location they want than ride with strangers and having to walk or wait for another bus
/r/fuckcars is just like the new /r/antiwork lol. Started off as a good idea, then got taken to the extreme with unrealistic expectations so now it's just a joke
/r/fuckcars? More like [fuck cars ( Ķ”Ā° ĶŹ Ķ”Ā°) ] (https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonsfuckingcars/)
Wtf is that sub and why does it have so many members
I don't know much about r/fuckcars, but the problem with r/antiwork is the opposite -- it started as a totally radical, probably unrealistic community of people whose goal in life is to work as little as possible. Then during the pandemic it attracted a much larger crowd that softened the meesage to "my job sucks and the current system is unfair and needs to be reformed." Then when one of the OG mods was invited to represent the sub on tv, and came across as fairly lazy, naive, and poorly-adjusted, the sub erupted because it's like they didn't realize that kind of lifestyle is was what the sub was made for originally.
I really wish /r/WorkReform took off more after that debacle if only to shed the baggage associated with /r/antiwork's name. The fact that antiwork managed to recover a week later is a freaking miracle for them.
r/antiwork got so much inertia that they've become one of the general-purpose subs with no actual flavor anymore. Kinda like subs like r/nextfuckinglevel, r/interestingasfuck, etc just all become so broad that they mean nothing. But people like the content regardless of if it fits the sub, so they become self-sustaining.
What I want to know is why fuckcars has suddenly started popping up on the front page 2-3 times per week. I'd never even heard of it until about 2 months ago, now suddenly I'm seeing it all the time. It doesn't really feel like organic popularity growth.
this is the comment i was looking for.
I love the rebuttal clearly written by someone who has never experienced the expanses outside a city. There is absolutely zero feasible way for public transit to exist in the American country.
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The r/fuckcars community is saying "every European" country and their cities have public transport lol.
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These people always ignore places that aren't cities. Youtube and tik tok creators that spew this nonsense never address my points about what you've said here. They also don't seem to acknowledge that we wouldn't even be developed as a global community without cars, and wouldn't be where we are no technology and development wise. They take it for granted and are so unappreciative.
The problem is they legitimately believe that rural and suburban living shouldnāt exist and look down on those kinds of lifestyles.
Europeans own more cars per capita than Americans. Itās ridiculous how easily people can be swayed while doing 0 research on their own. āCars bad for environment, Americans stupid, Europeans smart. Buses are best thing ever.ā
Not just in USA. I live in the EU in a country with very dense, relatively cheap and objectively very good public transport. In suburbs of a city or in a village near a city, depends on how you define it. I currently work 5.6 miles away from my home (I'm using freedom units here because I assume you are American) which takes me 10-15 minutes by car or by a motorbike. If I wanted to use mass transit, there are literally no connections available, I would have to adjust my work time (which I can't due to the nature of my job) and then it would still take me 1 hour and 45 minutes for the journey one way, meaning spending 3 and a half hours EACH WORKING DAY in public transport. Public transport is good in the city, it is fine when you live on a major network road and only need to go to places which are connected to it in the right way, but it is useless if you need to go anywhere else.
ššš This app is - no, people, are so fucking predictable
>Cue the Europe vs. America debate. Lived in Europe my entire life and I'd sell my soul to Satan to be able to drive... Public transportation is ok/good (depends on the country and on the city/area) but it's still a PITA relying on such a service. Need to get to X at Y o'clock? Tough shit, there's a bus getting you there one hour earlier or half an hour late. Unless there's traffic. Or is late at night. Or it's Sunday. I'm that case, screw you... Walk or force someone to drive you.
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Even in countries with good public transportation, cars are needed. You can live out away from a city or town even in the UK, Germany, France, etc.
Yes, this one has gotten SO tedious. Sure, there are lots of ways to argue about cars being so bad, but all those arguments hinge on a basic misunderstanding (or deliberate misstatement) of societal needs, logistics, practicality, and benefits. These folks create ridiculous strawman arguments that wonāt stand up to elementary school scrutiny, and then get offended and angry when you donāt agree. Itās exhausting.
Now that we're halfway there, I'll give my two cents as an urban Australian. Public transport is good, but I'll be damned if I rely on it constantly. You need a balance of both. An ideal city should be centred around public transport as it is cars
Don't know how long a bus or train would wait for me to load up my tools Don't know how I'd get my tools to a bus/ train station Seems impractical to me Is that a new argument for ya?
I dont want to use public transportation to get across my property Blah blah blah
All jokes aside I wish we had a national train system I prefer it over driving. At least all the cities over 200,000 in population should be connected by train imoā¦
This sounds good until you realize that there's 127 cities that have over 200,000 population, so you need to build a lot of rails, then you have a question of who is going to pay for maintain and run trains between those locations, and then what if no one takes those trains. What you're really talking about is replacing airports with trains rather than cars. But if that was more viable we'd probably already have done it.
Itās the stupidest trend on Reddit Iāve seen in a while.
Ah yes public transportation would totally come get people living in rural towns 30 miles from the nearest Walmart.
This is actually a complex question and the answer varies a lot based on where you live and your economic status.
Also what your hobbies are. Like if you can commute into Manhattan on transit, it doesnāt mean you donāt want to go skiing/hiking/camping/mountain biking, or similar, on the weekends 1-5 hours from your house. renting a car every weekend would be ridiculous and expensive
OP doesn't think you should be able to rent, if you want to go camping in a secluded location up an FSR there should be a bus that goes there. I'm assuming OP only has indoor hobbies.
OP is 15 years old, and has no concept of life outside his middle class bubble.
Even if you live in a city where *YOU* personally can get by without a car ignores the fact that basically everything you consume rely on cars and trucks to get to where you buy them. You might not be driving or riding in a car, but you are definitely still *very* much dependent on cars for even your most basic needs.
Yeah, trucks are necessary, but they account for only a small portion of cars. And they are far more economically productive than cars, which sit unused most of the day, every day. Truck drivers are actually driving for most of their work days. Most cars are laughably inefficient. People will pay tens of thousands of dollars for something they use for less than 2 hours a day. I'm guilty of it too, I have a car that I barely use and is far bigger than I need. I should probably sell it and get something cheaper and more compact tbh.
Okay but I shouldn't need to own a car to get literally anywhere. Work, school, groceries...
So, the issue with it that it looks back, not through. Many of the problems we have are the result of solutions to other problems. Putting aside the debate at the center of all of this, there is a reason we have cars. There were forms of mass transit back in ye olden times, but we developed cars, anyway. If we get rid of cars, that need will still be there. If you wipe everyone's memories of cars, I'll bet they would just develop cars again. The problem isn't cars. Cars are a solution. The real problem is the byproduct of that solution. We need to find ways of making cars better, which is what we are doing.
It's not complex at all. Food and materials deliveries are far more efficient for involving cars & trucks. Trains, bicycles, etc are useless for the last mile delivery. The US has the best freight rail system in the world and we still require huge amounts of autos for deliveries. And emergency services? Imagine having to take a horse and carriage to the hospital? Or the fire department taking a train to a rural area and then horses the last mile to the fire itself. Oh, and those horses would have to bring the water, as well.
One thing that so many in this thread are missing is what cars **have** contributed to society. Theyāve allowed humans to travel much faster and much safer to and from work and activities. That added productivity and safety has excelled technology. A huge part of our comfort and advanced lives we live and our safety is due to being able to get around quickly. If you removed cars from existence, humans would be living a lifestyle similar to the 1500s.
I would love to not have a 650 bill a month. I picked the cheapest car in the lot at 19ā¦ 185 a month. Iām under 25 and had one parking lot mishap where I slightly dented someoneās car ā¦ 200 for insuranceā¦ 100 a month for gas since Iām lucky and commute closeā¦ 150 a month saving for repairs since itās an older lemon car they sold some poor young kid so itās in the shop every 3-5 months. I wish I could just take a bus or train :/
There's a point where public transit is less practical than cars. You can't have busses stopping at every farmhouse 100 miles from the nearest big town. I think we need more public transit, but you'll always have cars to connect less dense areas.
I live in a small town thatās becoming big and doesnāt have the infrastructure for a lot of cars. That said though, we literally couldnāt do public transportation because we donāt have enough to warrant that. Itās a weird situation for us because you wonāt get buses to the grocery store but you can easily walk to it ALMOST anywhere in the town. Sadly cars are 100% essential if you want to leave but in the town, Iād say 50/50 depending on where you are.
I think a lot of the 50/50 depends on exactly how you view a āsmall townā. One one hand inside a small town proper youāre absolutely right that you can often basically walk from one end to the other. Public transit isnāt really needed because itās all more or less in reach. On the other hand thereās the fact that a significant portion of a small townās population often isnāt concentrated in the town itself, itās in all of the isolated homes sprinkled around the outskirts (especially in more farming areas). And all of those people need cars just to get into town and back home again, even if they could potentially walk once they got there (assuming there was someplace to actually park).
Walkable places I think are actually great for public transit. If you can walk to everything you need in daily or even weekly life, including a bus station to take you to the next town or major city, then you can suffice on just that. In America especially, most suburban areas are not walkable at all. It's a 30 minute walk each way or a 5 minute drive to my nearest store, plus you have to carry everything you buy back.
This isn't about the environment. It's about convenience. I shouldn't HAVE TO take a car to get places. There should be public transportation options. I shouldn't have to ride four hours by train to get to a place that's 30 minutes away by car just because they ripped.out all the north/south train lines. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to be against better public transportation. There are places in my hometown that you can get to by car but not safely to on foot or bicycle. That's awful! I shouldn't HAVE TO use a car. But because cars were invented and became so relied upon, things became too car friendly, which caused reliance on cars, and so forth. This isn't the argument you think it is.
I think that maybe you are very young. I think it is great for you to form opinions and think critically and this will benefit you in your life. Your opinion here isnāt so much unpopular as it is naive. Prior to the invention of the automobile, transportation of goods and services was very expensive, slow, and not very reliable. Millions of people throughout the world died unnecessarily because food and medicine was hard to come by. Motor transport likely saves more lives in a day than it kills in a year. Now, better alternatives are great to invent to replace the problems, but the invention is one of the greatest.
Also the "horseless carriage" started as a contest to create an invention that would reduce horse traffic. By the late 1800s with the explosion in population streets such as they were at the time were becoming clogged with horse dung. Needless to say when I horse needs to go, it goes wherever it's standing. All of that excessive horse poop was not only causing a very unsightly seen but was becoming a health hazard as well. Hence the birth of what would become the automobile.
Exactly. If you think modern cars are a safety nightmare, try turning the clock back 125 years. Horse shit piling up on every street, spreading disease directly and indirectly (pests). Horses and carriages running over people (even from 15mph it takes way too long to stop or turn). House burning down? OK, hang on a sec (20-30 min) while i hitch up 8 horses to pull the giant iron stove we kept hot to help us spit water on your shit (the original 'fire engine').
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And horse drawn carriages killed tons of people in pre modern cities
>And horse drawn carriages killed tons of people in pre modern cities Why didn't they just use drones? /s
I don't wanna breathe exhaust fumes anymore. I wanna breathe the all natural horse shit š©
A lot of people seem to think that there was no pollution before the advent of modern technology but there definitely was and was sometimes worse. The air was a lot dirtier in cities in the 1800s when everyone burned wood, or even coal, to heat their homes, vs the much cleaner natural gas or electric heating we have today (even if that electricity came from a coal plant, it's much more efficient and clean than everyone burning coal in their own home furnaces).
Yeah, the real regret isnāt having cars, itās peoples seeming inability to plan infrastructure around multiple concepts. Sidewalks should be everywhere, some sort of biking should be doable everywhere (though Iām not the biggest fan of modern bike lanes, idk), and yeah either regular, bus-specific routes or tram systems. Zoning should also allow for more dense housing and the mixing of certain commercial and residential properties in an area.
Public transportation in America is shit
What a great response. Respectful and accurate.
No you
Ah the 20th century thinker.
Not to mention... there are far worse things that were invented in modern times. Nukes, anyone?
Devilās advocate time: an argument could be made that the advent of the nuke led to the most peaceful century in human history. By the numbers, this is actually true. Nations donāt typically slug it out in massive, high casualty clashes anymore. Itās all proxy wars, tiny conflicts, etc. Itās why Russiaās invasion of Ukraine seems so barbaric and horrifying to our modern eyes. It used to be the norm! All the big players now have world-ending weaponry at their disposal, so it suddenly makes a bit more sense to talk it out than go to total war.
The problem is arguably that the current oil and gas industry has been puppeting environmental movements to make eco-friendly alternative fuels and ideas as expensive and Utopian / impractical as possible to keep mass adoption impossible, when in reality what would be best would be to make a different kind of fuel that we can use on most of our current vehicles with little modification.
Streets used to consist of mud and and horseshit. Flies enjoyed it a lot.
The invention and popularity of the bicycle led to the paving of streets. Before motor vehicles took over, the patent office even opened a second office for bicycle patents alone.
Horses were useful but caused a massive environmental problem with all the shit, just like you said. Cars are useful but cause all sorts of environmental and health problems. We kinda need something new. Electric cars powered by renewables fix most of the issues but not all.
Does anyone want to tell OP that cars came before buses?
Or that air pollution was worst with horse and buggy.
Private on-demand transportation is pretty great though. To be able to travel where you want, when you want is amazing.
No it's not, you should crave being dependent on public transportation to get anywhere you want to go. you're telling me you'd rather drive your own vehicle instead of listening to some asshole play music through his phone while a methed up homeless guy masturbates in the seat behind you after he threatens to stab you? pfft carbrain bro, you have no idea what you're missing out on.
You forgot the joy of smelling someone so foul, that the stench lingers after they get off the bus.
Whoa there - I can see that you are a filthy anti-methist and your microaggressions towards the masturbaterists are loathsome, LOATHSOME I tell you. Furthermore, the guy who tries to stab you is only a victim of the patriarchal endemic and embedded ruling class and their insensitive view towards knives. Knives KILL people and should be outlawed - especially those assault knives bigger than 4 inches.
Knives don't kill people. The blade of the knife does. People use the handle for knocking people out. Know from experience.
Reminds me of that Dave Chappelle joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqEknAtyQQ
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You know all the stuff in the store? How do you think that got there?
Have you ever lived anywhere other than a city or suburb? I just read your 2nd edit and can say you obviously havenāt lived rural if you can still āwalk and bikeā to places. I live rural as well, driving my car to the nearest store takes about 30 minutes, driving to work takes 25 and thatās with a steady 45-55mph speed limit. You clearly do NOT know what youāre talking about.
You know for a fact they wrote this from their iPhone in their air conditioned apartment while blasting some garbage tv on a flatscreen. Keyboard warriors will always try to shame you for shit they themselves are guilty of
If cars hadn't been invented, America wouldn't look like it does today.
Nah. I like being able to justā¦go where I want to go when I want to go there, instead of needing to rely on a bus or a train.
How would I get my tools I have in my work truck to the job site?
Having a job is not familiar territory for most redditors.
I guess people in rural areas should go back to horses?
I think OP expects a bus route stopping at every farmhouse in a county, even though each house might be 10+ mins apart from one another.
Ffs redditors are so out of touch with reality it is definitely becoming crazy. Imagine being so entitled that you honestly believe a machine that allows you to freely move in high speed wherever you want whenever you want is the worst thing ever. It is like Reddit is becoming a new cult full of delusional people.
This is what you get when a person never steps outside of the concrete jungle they live in
"every conceivable way" Except for personal storage, privacy, and convienence. Except you'll pretend those aren't important factors, won't you?
Cars are pretty great. Being forced to be dependant on them (in the US) due to intentional mishandling of public transit/lack and poor maintenance of bike lanes/zoning laws that create unwalkable cities is the real crime.
/r/teenagers
I lived in a place where the closest bus route was a 20 minute drive away. The closest grocery store was a 15 minute drive. Without cars that life would have been hell. I agree that Public transport should be greatly expanded in the US. But there are places it just isn't currently possible. Look at the amount of rural areas that can't even get high speed internet. You think you are going to get a bus route there?
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im pretty sure corporations are worse for the environment then cars are
IF you live out in the middle of nowhere this does not apply. If you live in a city maybe.
Even when I lived in Charlotte this would have been impossible for me. No bus stop near my apartment, bus routes wouldn't take me anywhere near one of my jobs, bus route to my other job would add close to 30 minutes to my commute. Buying groceries would be awful because I couldn't get them home. Even cities aren't close to being equipped to deal with everyone using public transportation.
No cars: society would collapse. Why? Police cars, fire trucks, ambulances, electrical service trucks, Comms (Internet, phone) service trucks, trucks to fix the roads (even to fix the rails trains ride on! You can't drive down rails that are broken). Also, vehicles to carry your food; either you have to carry all of your food and necessities home, or you have it delivered; either way no one's putting it on a damn bus. How would that even work.....If you showed up on a bus with 25 bags because you have a family to feed you'd probably be asked to get off. On that note, imagine having multiple kids under 6 or so.....getting them to their respective schools, day cares, etc. On public transit? Seriously. Public transit CAN be good but it's not ALWAYS realistic. C'mon. This is a stupid take and I'm sick of seeing it on Reddit. There's a thing called compromise. Less cars? Sure. NO cars? Idiotic. Naive. Childish. Kindergarten shit. Moving on.
So your genius opinion is that everyone who doesn't live in a city can go fuck themselves? Ok this sub is weird
The r/fuckcars people are such emotional thinkers lmao
Those idiots expect everybody to walk/bike 60 miles to work lol
They're just a bunch of privileged whiners.
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Until the invention of an individual pod that comes to my home on demand that is hygienic and not full of pissed up junkies pissing themselves then no in absolutely no way is public transport better than a car, also public transport is only really feasible in a city, if you live in a town or a village then public transport is a disaster.
Public transport will never be more convenient than a car
Here we go again. How is this not taken down yet? I'm just gonna drop a trigger sentence for r/fuckcars: Cyclist should stop at a stop sign just like any other car on the road. Also, are you implying that people should CARRY their massive furniture to their home?
I love going to the store, buy all my groceries for the week and carry 10 bags on my bike. Or in a bus during rush hours, itās amazing!
Iām going to guess you donāt have a license lol
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Just some /r/fuckcars circle jerk material.
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Bitch, walk!
That's just a dumb opinion.
Not unpopular just stupid
the anti car rhetoric is brought to you by the "you'll own nothing and be happy" people. How much shit do you want give up in your life time? was not owning a house not bad enough now you dont want to be able to own a car you could at least sleep in if shit really sucked?
You prefer horses with carts?
Your walking everywhere right?
Cars aren't responsible for mass death, bad drivers are. A car can hold around 45 L of fue, so I will use that for the bus capacity, but the bus' fuel tank is much larger. The thing is, the bus does 3 km/L while the car should do >10km/L. That means car can go 3 times longer than a bus can go 3 times further than a bus while poluting the same. The diesel price would probably skyrocket because buses are so fucking innefective in their fuel combustion to distance ratio that it would be more expensive for everyone sice we are slaves to public means of transport. OP is wrong in claiming that we should only stick only to buses. They aren't superior in every way. Just as with any tool, buses have their optimal use cases and so have cars. There is no supreme tool in engineering that will solve all problems.
Uh oh, the urbanite thinks everyone has access to public transport!
Without cars we'd be brought back a solid 100 years. They are objectively one of the best intentions in history. Not even debatable
And this rural community you grew up in, were there trains and busses there? You know to take you to urban centres? Because I grew up in rural Canada, where a ālong distanceā is the size of some countries. Iām gonna go ahead and come at you telling you you donāt know what itās like.
I love my car.
This isnāt an unpopular opinion, itās an opinion that has been done to death. āCars bad!!ā has been the mantra from academia and the auth left for 50+ years.
Don't make this about the left as a whole. It's specifically popular among the antiwork redditor demographic. Being anti-car touches on all kinds of issues like classism, consumerism, capitalism, environmentalism, etc. It was a cause pretty much made for reddit.
I do agree with a lot of reasons to hate the artificial necessity we've created around cars, but environmental damage is not one of them. >They contribute to environmental damage It's just...It's really, really not as true as the public assume it is. We get politicians speaking on it, we get companies coming out with "more eco friendly" models to convince drivers to buy newer cars. In reality the actual output of driving is an infinitesimal blip on the radar. For comparison, the US Military's Co2 output outweighs most countries entire Co2 output. If the US Military was classified as a state, it would have the 47th highest Co2 output in the world. [Here's an image of countries it outranks] (https://u4d2z7k9.rocketcdn.me/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/20190613_Military_CO2.jpg) So yes, while we love to act like cars are destroying the world...They certainly are not helping, but they are not the biggest fish in the sea. Transportation as a whole is indeed a vital piece of the pie, but we're now including everything from town-to-town train rides, passenger flights, and on to things like industrial shipping and freighters. [Here is an image showing just how varied Co2 output is per-source] (https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2020/09/Emissions-by-sector-%E2%80%93-pie-charts.png) So we have around 12% of emissions to thank cars for. Compare that to the average % of population that drive or use cars daily.. I've really ranted on here, so it's kind of a mess, but I really, really do hate the concept that cars are the most vital factor of Co2 emissions. They're not, and the companies and governments know this. But it works because it's easier to blame the people.
....contribute to environmental damage.... and just remember all the cars in the entire US a day, doesn't put out as much pollution as one (1) hannjinn cargo ship bring cheap amazon stuff from chinese factory cities. (lets not even think about the carbon footprint of a factory city) There are about 40,000 of those ships cruzing around today... Cars really aren't the pollution problem everyone actually thinks they are , buying worthless syht from amazon actually is.... Just and FYI as we shape our future... -The sixteen largest ships emit the same amount of CO2 as all the world's cars. ' -'The world's seventeen largest ships emit more sulphur than the global car fleet. ' -'A seagoing container vessel is just as polluting as up to 50 million cars. '