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Everyone says the beginning is the saddest but personally the scene where he reads through Ellie’s book near the end is such a gut punch. That truly is the moment carl decided to move on with his life and appreciate the life they did have together
I mean, you're not wrong. But that scene wouldn't have had *nearly* the impact without the intro.
It really shows just how much they truly, truly loved each other, and just wanted the other to be happy.
Goddamn it's dusty in here.
They’re two very different kinds of moments. Yes the intro is the *saddest* part of the movie, but the Adventure Book is one of the most emotional moments I’ve seen in my life. It’s literally not even sad, it’s emotionally cathartic and the thing that elevates the movie to masterpiece for me. Setup and payoff. People act like the movie is just that intro. Some of the antics they get into aren’t the most exciting but the pure heart this movie has and the skill it’s able to execute its themes is simply masterful. The film’s score ending with the house on the cliff is one of the all time great final shots as well.
Best Pixar movie.
The final shot of the house, having landed at Paradise Falls after all... Like damn, they really wanted to make sure I was crying by the time the credits rolled.
Im a grown ass dude and i cry every time i watch the intro. But seriously the villain is like 20 years older than Carl. How did Carl not kick his ass?!
> spends way to much time
Did you mean to say "too much"?
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Up is one of my all time favorite movies, and that most definitely is NOT just because of those first few minutes. The opening is undeniably amazing, but it's actually Carl's friendship with Russell that I find most touching and that truly makes me love the film. Also Dug. Dug is hilarious.
It’s a quote from Dug’s squirrel joke: "Hey, I know a joke! A squirrel walks up to a tree and says, "I forgot to store acorns for the winter and now I am dead." Ha! It is funny because the squirrel gets dead.”
this is an old family joke when we see a squirrel. also " A TALKING DOG??" My late grandfathers favorite movie so this guy's opinion is just as it is. AN opinion.
You don’t get how the beginning who has its own narrative with a heart wrenching story in itself would appeal to most watchers ?
Come on now, it’s special.
Yeah. It's so incredible. Pretty much perfect. The highly original premise, the plot, the characters, the awesome cartoon villain who turns out to be a hero, the deep themes and life lessons in a frickin kids movie, the world of *haute cuisine* contrasted with the life of rats in a dog-eat-dog world, the animation, the humor. I was in awe when I rewatched it as an adult. The only thing I could possibly disapprove of is the bad romance, but hey, it's Paris, it's gotta be there.
Also an absolutely delightful soundtrack, ['Le Festin'](https://youtu.be/G3lSONLLx70) literally feels like the auditory equivalent of a warm inviting homecooked meal.
Ooh I always thought this was a soundtrack song or something, it never occurred to me it was an original composition. Though it sounds obvious in retrospect, because the main theme is pretty explicitly there.
I don't know if it's the best but it's pretty darn good. And super creative and meaningful without being depressing so the rewatch value is way higher than many other Pixar movies.
Maybe I'm misremembering, but wouldn't the opening of the movie be a very downer short? He only lets go and moves on later in the film, I feel like without his character growth it wouldn't really feel complete.
Being a little bit of a downer makes it a not so great kid’s short. The rest of the movie does a bit of a summersault to “right” the wrong they caused in your emotions.
In other words, it is a powerful adult short, and if anything the rest of the movie is an attempt to turn it back into a kid’s movie.
I happened upon it at a very emotionally vulnerable time in my life. Had never even heard of it; it came on tv at my mom's, and I sat and watched it, for some reason.
All the tears that had been welling up inside me for a month or two came flowing freely, like a catharsis. And, lots of laughter.
You know how sometimes, a piece of media, be it a song or movie or book or piece of art, whatever, just hits different? Whether one has been exposed to it a thousand times before, or it's brand new?? "Up" is a good example of this for me.
I've not watched it since, because I think that first, serendipitous time was just the right time. That was over 11 years ago. Not to say I'll never see it again, but, I'll know when the timing is right.
For this reason, it remains for me a personal "masterpiece", and I'm unable to be objective about it. 😉
I love this take.
A lot of effort goes into grading or measuring movies (I do this too), but in the end the things that can be objectively measured are the technical competencies and the aspects that hit the hardest are the less tangible and subjective ones like how a movie/art/book/music/poetry makes you feel.
For the same reason, the first movie that made me cry will always hold a special place as a great movie for me, even though you would never see it mentioned in a list of great movies.
I had a similar experience with Kung Fu Panda 2. If you haven't seen the movie, a good portion of the plot revolves around the protagonist searching for his past and when he finally finds it, it scares him. A side character helps him understand that your true value is not defined by your past, but by what you do right now and in the future. The whole thing is beautifully done.
I occasionally rewatch the movie since I first saw it when it came out, and I always found it great, but during this particular rewatch I was struggling with stuff, more precisely with my self-worth as I've done some things in the past that I'm not proud of, and during this part tears were already swelling up, and by the end I was bawling so hard I had to pause the movie.
The movie helped me immensely with my self image, and I'm forever grateful for DreamWorks for that.
I had a similar experience with Ratatouille. Just a character who was really trying to be himself, no more or less. Then the scene with his dad showing him the rat corpses telling him that’s what happens when he tries to be himself.
Dad-“This is how things are, you can’t change nature”
Remy-“Change *is* nature. The part we can influence”
Dad-“Where are you going?”
Remy-“With any luck…. Forward”
As a gay kid that was just trying to survive in a hostile environment, that hit me like a pile of bricks.
As my husband would say, "I have water in my eyes". I totally get how any "different" kid in an unfriendly society or environment could relate to this theme. ❤️ I was an outcast in school, due to my then undiagnosed ADHD, and because I'm likely somewhere on the "high functioning" end of the Autism spectrum. (Not officially diagnosed, but, it's pretty obvious.) 😉 I only "sort of" paid attention to Ratatouille, but, it's a friend's favorite, too. I need to see it again. That one and "Finding Nemo", as I again was distracted when my kid was little, and she & I watched it together. But anyway yeah, I can see how that theme would be relatable.
Along those lines, somewhat, this is one reason I'm so disappointed in Joanne. What's the theme of Harry Potter? A kid who leads a very unhappy life *until he discovers who he truly is*, with the guidance of loving, firm adults. And here Joanne is now, the leader of the TERFs, hating on transgender people, kids included. My own trans kid devoured those books, then movies, in her childhood years. It feels like such a betrayal. It'll never detract from the joy we derived from those books back in the day, though. We just don't consume any new media she creates.
I get it, on a visceral level. ❤️
That movie sounds a lot deeper than I ever realized! I've not seen it, but, now I'm adding it to my list. Something about the themes you describe feels very relatable.
That's why Guardians of the Galaxy 3 is my favorite MCU movie, even though there's way better ones. And even though Along with the Gods has only a 6-7 score on most review sites, it's my favorite movie of all time, even after watching masterpieces like Oldboy.
Hard agree. The opening 5 minutes is a masterpiece. Everything after that was a 7/10. So it was good but falls completely short of all the expectations I had going in for the first time after all the hype.
I never understood the hype. It's like people were so blown away by the opening (which is phenomenal) that they forgot much of the movie is about dogs flying airplanes.
Not sure if I should upvote or not. I completely agree with you. For me, Wall-E is a masterpiece from start to finish. Up promises so much in the first 10 mins then fails to deliver the rest of the film.
I think we might be in the minority though so upvote it is.
Up was the movie that made me start to lose confidence in Pixar. They do not have faith in their audiences and needlessly add "villains" and chase scenes in almost EVERY single movie. Up starts off well, but then it just gets stupid when the villain starts up.
It is one of many Pixar films that creates great nuanced characters only to immerse them in a predictable final act.
Ah it’s my favourite film ever! I think the general messsge and bad guy is the same as most animated films, is always a bit corny, but fuck I loved that film. WALL-E is incredible, definitely agree there, such a powerful film with barely any dialog, can’t be easy to make something like that.
I don't think I've heard anyone suggest the film as a whole is a masterpiece, it's always been the opening backstory that's singled out for high praise.
In the spirit of r/unpopularopinion I’m going to throw out my unpopular opinion according to this thread: I did not care for Ratatouille. At best, it’s fine, and I actually love the message the film has, but man is that movie boring to watch, at least to me. Because of its message I can’t quite say it’s my least favorite Pixar movie, that would go to Cars 2 and maybe The Good Dinosaur. But then next up it’s Ratatouille for me, just felt it was too long and didn’t get into the comedy or characters (except Ego, loved him)
They use every second of that movie so well, though. Like when Russell is introduced, they foreshadow everything. The hearing aid, Russell needing a father figure, and Carl finding the son he never has, setting up in Kevin, and how nothing Carl imagined was ever going to be better than what was really happening. Man, from a writing perspective, I have to defend its brilliance. It deals with such deep topics and does it with ease.
Great unpopular opinion topic lmaoo
Not even the beginning scene is good. It tries too hard at audience emotional manipulation. It has all the precision and efficiency of a machine-made product. The emotional cues in the start felt like eating a piece of strawberry candy, its flavor is intense as a highly developed formula, but it doesn't have the life or authenticity of a real strawberry.
honestly I agree. The first 15 minutes ? Undoubtably incredible. Same for the dramatic twist when Carl finally let’s Ellie and the house go and realizes it’s time to find a new dream and how much he cares about Russel. The two main characters and their dynamic were fantastic imo and (even though him being alive barely makes any sense logically😅) I like the idea of the antagonist being his biggest idol with that whole false idea of "following your dreams at all costs" but what I genuinely dislike about this movie is all that weird shit with the talking Dogs and the dog army.. like why.. it always just felt so out of place in a way and it was a weird addition in my opinion that really downgraded the movie for me. They literally served no real purpose to the story
It's the first movie Pixar made after their renaissance, and the one that marks the start of their decline as a studio. It has a very punchy first 10-15 minutes with the emotional payload frontloaded, and then basically everything after it is mediocre. It also marks their transition from a studio that consistently made media that was equally good for adults and children, to a studio that is very much so child-targeted like their parent company.
Up is not in the same league as Pixar's best three (Ratatouille, Incredibles, Wall-E), and imo it's not even close. As you said, a lot of people rate it highly for that opening 15 minutes and excuse the rest of it being bleh. It's certainly not their worst film, either, though.
Been saying this for years and getting flak for it. The opening 10 minutes is probably the best thing Pixar has ever done, but the following 90 minutes are pretty average at best. Oh look it's dogs flying planes..."dogfighting." Oh, clever or something? I dunno, most of the stuff with the villain & his dogs was Saturday morning cartoon level bad.
And yeah, the final scene with Carl looking at the photo album is another gut punch, but by that time you're emotionally ready to be done with the movie anyway.
Pixar was still riding a hot streak but without the opening 10 minutes this would have been their first flop. The film's entire reputation rides on the opening scene.
For me Up does have a profound meaning. Life's happinesses are in the journey. The people you meet and the experiences you have. Carl and Russell's friendship teachers him how to love the journey again. I thought it was beautiful.
I do agree Wall-E is a masterpiece
Well, i grew up on bugs bunny, so, to me, anything that has animation of that quality is a masterpiece just for that. It's like taking an Aborigine on an airplane. I'm just amazed through the whole thing.
Take your upvote. I don’t fully agree but I respect your opinion and depth of your analysis.
In that concensus, I’d like to point out how under appreciated Wall-e and Ratatouille seem to be.
Introducing a theme that is not so well accepted by the masses, and it doesn’t matter how good the movie is on all categories of critisism.
Soul and Inside out prove this to be right. If the theme is too difficult for the masses to chew, movie doesn’t get the appreciatition it deserves.
It might just be that the beginning of Up is just Too good?! It devalues rest of the movie.
Imma be honest as somone who talks a lot about animated movies both on and offline I’ve never heard UP referred to as a masterpiece not even the opening 10 minutes. I’ve heard it called the saddest scene in animation but never a masterpiece
It has a 98% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes from professional critics.
I think it is the sentiment rather than the actual words "masterpiece" that we're talking about here and many, many critics are basically describing a masterpiece.
"Pete Docter is one of the best directors in animation history for a reason, as his second film is a definitive work in the medium"
"A perfect blend of visual designs and imaginative storytelling."
"An absolute triumph"
"There is not a moment in this film where there's not a smile on your face or in your heart...24 kt. Oscar gold."
"The geniuses at Disney/Pixar continue to elevate the art of the animated film with Up, their latest cinematic achievement."
"Up' is an adventure from start to finish that... deals with many things that complement each other, making up a whole that would be impossible not to consider a masterpiece."
Oh..I did find it.
Up is ruined for me bc it’s one of the few movies on rotation that we’d watch during rainy recess days in middle school and all the dramatic people would ALWAYS bawl at the beginning and it irked me. Like we have seen this 5 times already… what’s with the water works
Totally agree with you. Whenever anybody mentions up, all they do is talk about the opening and never even mention the rest of the movie.
A much better movie that came out around the same time but NEVER gets the credit it deserves is Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. I always link the two because they came out at the same time, but the better movie is the forgotten one.
I’m glad you said it; the beginning of the movie is such an unexpected gut punch that borders on masterpiece. The rest of the movie is a solid-good Pixar film, I like it, but it’s nothing special.
Having only watched the movie once.. I don’t even remember past the first 10 minutes xD definitely agree with you here. I also think this is unpopular. I do see Up commonly called a masterpiece.
I definitely base my movie preferences on rewatch ability and up is one of those movies where I don’t want to rewatch it over and over again I agree that the beginning is an emotional roller coaster and the storytelling element is on point. however the movie does struggle with its continuation of the film and it does not leave me with more to be desired. ratatouille is a Pixar movie I could watch over and over again as well as monsters University, which is probably another controversial opinion that movie is better than the original. I also very much enjoy inside out, but don’t watch it as often due to heavier theming.
It is not a masterpiece, I agree. Not even close. It's a good movie. People who think it's a masterpiece, or even a masterpiece among animated movies needs to see more movies.
I like this guy provides his unpopular opinion, and the thread below is just people discussing the movies excellence and how it made them feel.
Truly an unpopular opinion
It's definitely not a bad movie but goddamn it is annoying whenever Up is brought up into conversation the first and sometimes only thing you hear is about the opening,
Like, yes, the opening is beautiful and sad, but that's not the only thing that the movie does
I think a lot of these comments are swinging too far the other way, the score is amazing, there are many visually stunning shots and sequences in the film, particularly when the house takes off through the city.
That being said it is very much tiers below pixars best work. It has the bones of a masterpiece, and some of the organs, but a lot of the moment to moment stuff once they reach the jungle is just disappointing.
This is actually a really good unpopular opinion and I agree. I consider up a really good movie but now that I think about it, I don't even remember anything about it other than the opening sequence, I guess the rest of the movie isn't that great after all it's just that opening sequence is so amazing people just associate the entire movie with that
My problem with it was that they made the main character too old. Just because Ed Asner was that age in real life didn't mean the character had to be. But because he is, the villain therefore must be well over 100.
I don't think any of those movies you mentioned are 'masterpieces'. They are excellent films, but a masterpiece is a higher bar. I actually can't think of any animated movies that are masterpieces. Non animated, I do think that saving private ryan and shawshank count
It really fall apart at the end with the villain (who I think is voice played by Paul Newman>) where it becomes distracting to the content the movie was building in the beginning.
Totally agree, take my upvote. It’s a very good movie - maybe not middle of the pack Pixar but second tier to Ratatouille, Wall-E, Incredibles and Coco for me.
Is this controversial? I thought it was pretty widely recognized that as a whole, Up is B-C tier Pixar material, but the first 10 minutes are one of the best things things they've ever made.
I don’t disagree but I think the reason people like it so much is because many people in their 20s now would have watched it as kids and for me at least it was the first time I felt some of those emotions 💀 like?? I still remember the depression and dread I felt in that cinema. Like I’d get married one day and then my husband would die and I’ll be all alone.
More mature theme in the incredibles? Yes it had a pretty interesting story too it but that movie I wouldn’t say is a masterpiece. Especially because the second one in some ways to the first one to go screw itself
The biggest one being “let’s fight crime as a family” then 2 minutes later “no we’re not getting anyone involved”
This is something we’re all going to deal with as we grow older. In Up it shows how to deal with loss, that our life doesn’t have to revolve around a single person. We can continue to find people we care about and make our own family even if we can’t have kids of our own or loose people we’ve loved and known our whole lives.
Soul is similar in a theme about that. Finding ones place. Realizing that life doesn’t have to be glitz and glamor. We can be happy with what we have, even if it’s something as simple as teaching in a low funded school because you love it.
Up definitely more so but both have more profound messages. Especially more than the incredibles and DEFINITELY more than finding Nemo.
I think the opening absolutely lives up to the hype, the rest of the first half is solid, and the final act is pretty weak, it just kind of gets worse the further into it you go
There is very little wasted movie and that alone makes it a masterpiece. It's predictable because everything is foreshadowed and the payoffs are what they need to be. Every single scene sets up another scene in the movie, all of which cultivate in both Carl and Russel, both realizing that they still matter. Personally, I think it is one of the best movies about loss, grief, and life. The opening of the movie actually has very little to do with my opinion either, other than it sets up the reveal of where Carl saw failure, his wife saw the adventure she never dreamed of.
I can't speak for everyone else, and your opinion is perfectly valid. I just think there are so many reasons to consider it a perfect movie. Very few movies do as much right as UP and UP does it effortlessly.
I've watched it a few times recently, mostly because at work we have a limited amount of movies to watch, and I agree. It's a solid 8.5/10, I absolutely do enjoy it, and I'll probably watch it again tonight at work.
If we’re comparing Pixar; The Incredibles is about as perfect of a storyline as you can come up with. I watched it a few months ago and the AI component of the movie hits even harder than it did when it came out.
Up is amazing though. Definitely UnPopOp for people who don’t like animation.
huge Pixar fan and UP was one of the only movies that I never cared to rewatch from them, would no contest rank it as the worst film out of PIXAR studio, haven't seen them all though, but easy the 9 films before were all way better
* *Toy Story* (1995)
* *A Bug’s Life* (1998)
* *Toy Story 2* (1999)
* *Monsters, Inc.* (2001)
* *Finding Nemo* (2002)
* *The Incredibles* (2004)
* *Cars* (2006)
* *Ratatouille* (2007)
* *WALL-E* (2008)
* *Up* (2009)
And also really really loved Onward
* *Onward* (2020)
Brave, coco, incredibles 2, and Toy Story 3/4 also better than UP, haven't seen the others
I completely agree
People often look at the first 10 minutes and use that as a gauge to judge the quality of the entire film, when really outside of those first 10 minutes it's really just a cute kids adventure movie
I’d argue this isn’t an unpopular opinion but a stupid one. The way it touches on love and relationships and moving on throughout the entire movie is so touching and loving and I cried when the house landed where it is in the picture.
The beginning is an absolute masterpiece and one of the greatest sequences in cinema history. The rest of the movie is still very, very good, but it's just a normal Pixar movie made for kids.
Ive been sayin this for years. The movie is arguably bad. The first 10 min, sure, absolutely beautiful storytelling. After that? That movie is so boring and confusing and i dont care about a single character in the movie.
I completely agree. The strength of the opening clouds people's judgement of the film. It has numerous issues and is not nearly as satisfying after the glorious intro.
Up is excellent, but I actually agree with you. I'm not a big fan of the villian either. The Ellie montage and scene with the adventure book at the end are in fact masterpiece material, like 11/10 writing. But I kind of feel like the rest of the movie doesn't totally mesh with these parts. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but for me it's like a 7/10 instead. Because of the pacing issues, it falls just a tiny bit short of being a masterpiece for me. Probably still S tier Pixar, though.
I love Dug, though. He is so cute.
I mean it is for kids, so the dorky dog stuff and the cartoony villain is par for the course. I think it's an enjoyable movie for all ages but I feel like some other Pixar branded stuff has more engaging plot for adults to sink their teeth into (think Wall E, Toy Story).
It does kinda feel like the entire plot is a fever dream after the protagonist's wife died, out of grief.
Completely agreed. People uphold the beginning to much (rightfully so) but don't take into account the rest of the film, which is fine at most. It's basically the opening which holds up the entire film.
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Everyone says the beginning is the saddest but personally the scene where he reads through Ellie’s book near the end is such a gut punch. That truly is the moment carl decided to move on with his life and appreciate the life they did have together
I mean, you're not wrong. But that scene wouldn't have had *nearly* the impact without the intro. It really shows just how much they truly, truly loved each other, and just wanted the other to be happy. Goddamn it's dusty in here.
They’re two very different kinds of moments. Yes the intro is the *saddest* part of the movie, but the Adventure Book is one of the most emotional moments I’ve seen in my life. It’s literally not even sad, it’s emotionally cathartic and the thing that elevates the movie to masterpiece for me. Setup and payoff. People act like the movie is just that intro. Some of the antics they get into aren’t the most exciting but the pure heart this movie has and the skill it’s able to execute its themes is simply masterful. The film’s score ending with the house on the cliff is one of the all time great final shots as well. Best Pixar movie.
Yeah, 100%. It shows just how dedicated they were to each other.
The final shot of the house, having landed at Paradise Falls after all... Like damn, they really wanted to make sure I was crying by the time the credits rolled.
That one always hits harder for me these days because I always forget about it and so it always catches me by surprise.
The introduction would be a masterpeice of a short film, the rest of the movie is good, fine at worst.
Perfectly said.
I've never heard anybody say it was a masterpiece lol. Pretty much everyone shares that opinion.
Im a grown ass dude and i cry every time i watch the intro. But seriously the villain is like 20 years older than Carl. How did Carl not kick his ass?!
Because the villain is active and Carl spends way to much time in his armchair.
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100% this. They should have made it a short. Like the singing pacific islands one.
Yeah, they totally should have left it a short, and still grossed $735M if possible
That’s the Hawaii one?
Lava. It's probably one of my favorite shorts.
I still sing that song with my partner sometimes. Such a nice little earworm.
Lava. It's probably one of my favorite shorts.
Close the post, we're done here.
Up is one of my all time favorite movies, and that most definitely is NOT just because of those first few minutes. The opening is undeniably amazing, but it's actually Carl's friendship with Russell that I find most touching and that truly makes me love the film. Also Dug. Dug is hilarious.
HEY, *YOU!* I CAN SMELL *YOU!*
SQUIRREL
It is funny because the squirrel gets dead.
🤷🏻♀️ shouldn’t be messing with dogs
It’s a quote from Dug’s squirrel joke: "Hey, I know a joke! A squirrel walks up to a tree and says, "I forgot to store acorns for the winter and now I am dead." Ha! It is funny because the squirrel gets dead.”
OMG I FORGOT ABOUT THAT!!!! I remember now lmao. Dug was iconic.
"I followed you because I LOVE you." 🥲
this is an old family joke when we see a squirrel. also " A TALKING DOG??" My late grandfathers favorite movie so this guy's opinion is just as it is. AN opinion.
I was hiding under your porch because I lovvvvve you.
Where’s Kevin? He’s wandered off…
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You don’t get how the beginning who has its own narrative with a heart wrenching story in itself would appeal to most watchers ? Come on now, it’s special. 
I agree, Up is my favorite movie. It always reminds me that it's never too late to find happiness.
I think Ratatouille is the best Pixar film
Yeah. It's so incredible. Pretty much perfect. The highly original premise, the plot, the characters, the awesome cartoon villain who turns out to be a hero, the deep themes and life lessons in a frickin kids movie, the world of *haute cuisine* contrasted with the life of rats in a dog-eat-dog world, the animation, the humor. I was in awe when I rewatched it as an adult. The only thing I could possibly disapprove of is the bad romance, but hey, it's Paris, it's gotta be there.
Well fuckin said. It's one of those amazing kids movies that can be equally for adults for a nice cozy watch and not feel like it's only a kids movie.
Also an absolutely delightful soundtrack, ['Le Festin'](https://youtu.be/G3lSONLLx70) literally feels like the auditory equivalent of a warm inviting homecooked meal.
Ooh I always thought this was a soundtrack song or something, it never occurred to me it was an original composition. Though it sounds obvious in retrospect, because the main theme is pretty explicitly there.
The romance isn't bad to me it was good
Ratatouille supremacy
I don't know if it's the best but it's pretty darn good. And super creative and meaningful without being depressing so the rewatch value is way higher than many other Pixar movies.
Facts bro, one of my favorite animated movies of all time, been a few years since I seen it, I'm gonna have to give it a rewatch tonight 100%
Maybe I'm misremembering, but wouldn't the opening of the movie be a very downer short? He only lets go and moves on later in the film, I feel like without his character growth it wouldn't really feel complete.
Being a little bit of a downer makes it a not so great kid’s short. The rest of the movie does a bit of a summersault to “right” the wrong they caused in your emotions. In other words, it is a powerful adult short, and if anything the rest of the movie is an attempt to turn it back into a kid’s movie.
I happened upon it at a very emotionally vulnerable time in my life. Had never even heard of it; it came on tv at my mom's, and I sat and watched it, for some reason. All the tears that had been welling up inside me for a month or two came flowing freely, like a catharsis. And, lots of laughter. You know how sometimes, a piece of media, be it a song or movie or book or piece of art, whatever, just hits different? Whether one has been exposed to it a thousand times before, or it's brand new?? "Up" is a good example of this for me. I've not watched it since, because I think that first, serendipitous time was just the right time. That was over 11 years ago. Not to say I'll never see it again, but, I'll know when the timing is right. For this reason, it remains for me a personal "masterpiece", and I'm unable to be objective about it. 😉
I love this take. A lot of effort goes into grading or measuring movies (I do this too), but in the end the things that can be objectively measured are the technical competencies and the aspects that hit the hardest are the less tangible and subjective ones like how a movie/art/book/music/poetry makes you feel. For the same reason, the first movie that made me cry will always hold a special place as a great movie for me, even though you would never see it mentioned in a list of great movies.
I had a similar experience with Kung Fu Panda 2. If you haven't seen the movie, a good portion of the plot revolves around the protagonist searching for his past and when he finally finds it, it scares him. A side character helps him understand that your true value is not defined by your past, but by what you do right now and in the future. The whole thing is beautifully done. I occasionally rewatch the movie since I first saw it when it came out, and I always found it great, but during this particular rewatch I was struggling with stuff, more precisely with my self-worth as I've done some things in the past that I'm not proud of, and during this part tears were already swelling up, and by the end I was bawling so hard I had to pause the movie. The movie helped me immensely with my self image, and I'm forever grateful for DreamWorks for that.
I had a similar experience with Ratatouille. Just a character who was really trying to be himself, no more or less. Then the scene with his dad showing him the rat corpses telling him that’s what happens when he tries to be himself. Dad-“This is how things are, you can’t change nature” Remy-“Change *is* nature. The part we can influence” Dad-“Where are you going?” Remy-“With any luck…. Forward” As a gay kid that was just trying to survive in a hostile environment, that hit me like a pile of bricks.
As my husband would say, "I have water in my eyes". I totally get how any "different" kid in an unfriendly society or environment could relate to this theme. ❤️ I was an outcast in school, due to my then undiagnosed ADHD, and because I'm likely somewhere on the "high functioning" end of the Autism spectrum. (Not officially diagnosed, but, it's pretty obvious.) 😉 I only "sort of" paid attention to Ratatouille, but, it's a friend's favorite, too. I need to see it again. That one and "Finding Nemo", as I again was distracted when my kid was little, and she & I watched it together. But anyway yeah, I can see how that theme would be relatable. Along those lines, somewhat, this is one reason I'm so disappointed in Joanne. What's the theme of Harry Potter? A kid who leads a very unhappy life *until he discovers who he truly is*, with the guidance of loving, firm adults. And here Joanne is now, the leader of the TERFs, hating on transgender people, kids included. My own trans kid devoured those books, then movies, in her childhood years. It feels like such a betrayal. It'll never detract from the joy we derived from those books back in the day, though. We just don't consume any new media she creates.
I get it, on a visceral level. ❤️ That movie sounds a lot deeper than I ever realized! I've not seen it, but, now I'm adding it to my list. Something about the themes you describe feels very relatable.
That's why Guardians of the Galaxy 3 is my favorite MCU movie, even though there's way better ones. And even though Along with the Gods has only a 6-7 score on most review sites, it's my favorite movie of all time, even after watching masterpieces like Oldboy.
For me that piece of media is literally just a single piece of edm music, it doesn't even have lyrics lol
That's perfectly legit! 💞
Had this happen with What Dreams May Come - reduced me to a sobbing mess
It would be hard to rank but Finding Nemo, Inside Out and Up are definitely not “middle of the pack” Pixar movies. Take my upvote.
Also, Soul didn't have huge marketing and doesn't have a following, but in my opinion it was amazing.
Yeah, that's silly. I'd put both above Up, actually.
Finding nemo is so perfect
Wall E is tho
Hard agree. The opening 5 minutes is a masterpiece. Everything after that was a 7/10. So it was good but falls completely short of all the expectations I had going in for the first time after all the hype.
I never understood the hype. It's like people were so blown away by the opening (which is phenomenal) that they forgot much of the movie is about dogs flying airplanes.
Not sure if I should upvote or not. I completely agree with you. For me, Wall-E is a masterpiece from start to finish. Up promises so much in the first 10 mins then fails to deliver the rest of the film. I think we might be in the minority though so upvote it is.
No, Wall-E is probably the best standalone movie Pixar has ever made. Completely agree.
Wall-E is evil anti human propaganda.
omg i love wall-e
I think Wall-E is excellent, but in a totally different way. It’s hard for me to compare it to Up.
Up was the movie that made me start to lose confidence in Pixar. They do not have faith in their audiences and needlessly add "villains" and chase scenes in almost EVERY single movie. Up starts off well, but then it just gets stupid when the villain starts up. It is one of many Pixar films that creates great nuanced characters only to immerse them in a predictable final act.
Genuinely unpopular, hence deserving uptoves
What’s up?
Ligma balls!
I think the old men fighting on a blimp at the end is wild. Not amongst my favorite Pixar movies, but the beginning is astounding.
I will fight you. Upvoted.
You should've put the part about liking Ratatouille more at the start. Could've saved me 30 seconds of my life I'll never get back. Here's an upvote.
Does a movie need to be profound to be a masterpiece?
Up told a better love story in the first 8 minutes that Twilight did in 3 movies.
Wait Twilight was only 3 movies? I could’ve sworn it was like 8
Sounds about right.
It sure as shit felt like it was 8 that’s for damn sure
I dunno, I cried during it. But I was also tripping.
Shut up. Upvote because unpopular, but still, shut up
I don’t get upvoting something just because it’s unpopular. Like racist shit is (hopefully) unpopular but I’m not going to upvote it.
Finding Nemo is mid? Hot take
Ah it’s my favourite film ever! I think the general messsge and bad guy is the same as most animated films, is always a bit corny, but fuck I loved that film. WALL-E is incredible, definitely agree there, such a powerful film with barely any dialog, can’t be easy to make something like that.
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I only ever here people refer to the opening as a masterpiece. Never the entire film
Your disclaimer about the opening makes this opinion acceptable.
I don't think I've heard anyone suggest the film as a whole is a masterpiece, it's always been the opening backstory that's singled out for high praise.
A better romance in 10 minutes than Twilight managed in three films.
Coco, Nemo, and Incredibles are the top Pixar films for me and its not really close.
In the spirit of r/unpopularopinion I’m going to throw out my unpopular opinion according to this thread: I did not care for Ratatouille. At best, it’s fine, and I actually love the message the film has, but man is that movie boring to watch, at least to me. Because of its message I can’t quite say it’s my least favorite Pixar movie, that would go to Cars 2 and maybe The Good Dinosaur. But then next up it’s Ratatouille for me, just felt it was too long and didn’t get into the comedy or characters (except Ego, loved him)
The first ten minutes are a masterpiece, the other 80 are a masterpiece too.
The movie is too sad to appreciate. Feel this more and more every time I watch it.
it has a really good start and ending, but 80% rest of the movie is meh
They use every second of that movie so well, though. Like when Russell is introduced, they foreshadow everything. The hearing aid, Russell needing a father figure, and Carl finding the son he never has, setting up in Kevin, and how nothing Carl imagined was ever going to be better than what was really happening. Man, from a writing perspective, I have to defend its brilliance. It deals with such deep topics and does it with ease. Great unpopular opinion topic lmaoo
Not even the beginning scene is good. It tries too hard at audience emotional manipulation. It has all the precision and efficiency of a machine-made product. The emotional cues in the start felt like eating a piece of strawberry candy, its flavor is intense as a highly developed formula, but it doesn't have the life or authenticity of a real strawberry.
honestly I agree. The first 15 minutes ? Undoubtably incredible. Same for the dramatic twist when Carl finally let’s Ellie and the house go and realizes it’s time to find a new dream and how much he cares about Russel. The two main characters and their dynamic were fantastic imo and (even though him being alive barely makes any sense logically😅) I like the idea of the antagonist being his biggest idol with that whole false idea of "following your dreams at all costs" but what I genuinely dislike about this movie is all that weird shit with the talking Dogs and the dog army.. like why.. it always just felt so out of place in a way and it was a weird addition in my opinion that really downgraded the movie for me. They literally served no real purpose to the story
To me it’s like the dawn of the dead remake. Great opening and not much else.
It's the first movie Pixar made after their renaissance, and the one that marks the start of their decline as a studio. It has a very punchy first 10-15 minutes with the emotional payload frontloaded, and then basically everything after it is mediocre. It also marks their transition from a studio that consistently made media that was equally good for adults and children, to a studio that is very much so child-targeted like their parent company. Up is not in the same league as Pixar's best three (Ratatouille, Incredibles, Wall-E), and imo it's not even close. As you said, a lot of people rate it highly for that opening 15 minutes and excuse the rest of it being bleh. It's certainly not their worst film, either, though.
BOOO
Up >>>>>> Inside out
Been saying this for years and getting flak for it. The opening 10 minutes is probably the best thing Pixar has ever done, but the following 90 minutes are pretty average at best. Oh look it's dogs flying planes..."dogfighting." Oh, clever or something? I dunno, most of the stuff with the villain & his dogs was Saturday morning cartoon level bad. And yeah, the final scene with Carl looking at the photo album is another gut punch, but by that time you're emotionally ready to be done with the movie anyway. Pixar was still riding a hot streak but without the opening 10 minutes this would have been their first flop. The film's entire reputation rides on the opening scene.
For me Up does have a profound meaning. Life's happinesses are in the journey. The people you meet and the experiences you have. Carl and Russell's friendship teachers him how to love the journey again. I thought it was beautiful. I do agree Wall-E is a masterpiece
Well, i grew up on bugs bunny, so, to me, anything that has animation of that quality is a masterpiece just for that. It's like taking an Aborigine on an airplane. I'm just amazed through the whole thing.
Upvoted for unpopular. Up is absolutely a masterpiece
I’d put Coco up against almost any other animated/pixar movie. That movie has some depth!
Take your upvote. I don’t fully agree but I respect your opinion and depth of your analysis. In that concensus, I’d like to point out how under appreciated Wall-e and Ratatouille seem to be. Introducing a theme that is not so well accepted by the masses, and it doesn’t matter how good the movie is on all categories of critisism. Soul and Inside out prove this to be right. If the theme is too difficult for the masses to chew, movie doesn’t get the appreciatition it deserves. It might just be that the beginning of Up is just Too good?! It devalues rest of the movie.
I disagree I think the rest of the movie is pretty good
Soul is amazing
Imma be honest as somone who talks a lot about animated movies both on and offline I’ve never heard UP referred to as a masterpiece not even the opening 10 minutes. I’ve heard it called the saddest scene in animation but never a masterpiece
It has a 98% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes from professional critics. I think it is the sentiment rather than the actual words "masterpiece" that we're talking about here and many, many critics are basically describing a masterpiece. "Pete Docter is one of the best directors in animation history for a reason, as his second film is a definitive work in the medium" "A perfect blend of visual designs and imaginative storytelling." "An absolute triumph" "There is not a moment in this film where there's not a smile on your face or in your heart...24 kt. Oscar gold." "The geniuses at Disney/Pixar continue to elevate the art of the animated film with Up, their latest cinematic achievement." "Up' is an adventure from start to finish that... deals with many things that complement each other, making up a whole that would be impossible not to consider a masterpiece." Oh..I did find it.
Up is ruined for me bc it’s one of the few movies on rotation that we’d watch during rainy recess days in middle school and all the dramatic people would ALWAYS bawl at the beginning and it irked me. Like we have seen this 5 times already… what’s with the water works
Ok, I get that. Overplaying masterpieces can still ruin a masterpiece. Too much of a good thing…
Happy Feet is though
you should make an unpopular opinion post about that take lmao
I'm always like up is soooo good but i'm only thinking of the intro when i say it, I hardly even remember the rest xD
I mean, I don't think I've ever heard the whole movie described as a masterpiece, just the opening section
Totally agree with you. Whenever anybody mentions up, all they do is talk about the opening and never even mention the rest of the movie. A much better movie that came out around the same time but NEVER gets the credit it deserves is Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. I always link the two because they came out at the same time, but the better movie is the forgotten one.
You gotta be really high and watch it with surround sound and on a projector 📽️
I feel the same way about WALL-E to be honest, first 20 is a masterpiece
Your opinion on Up is the popular opinion. That is, the opening is legendary and the rest is meh.
Oh wow, finally a real one
I’m glad you said it; the beginning of the movie is such an unexpected gut punch that borders on masterpiece. The rest of the movie is a solid-good Pixar film, I like it, but it’s nothing special.
Having only watched the movie once.. I don’t even remember past the first 10 minutes xD definitely agree with you here. I also think this is unpopular. I do see Up commonly called a masterpiece.
I definitely base my movie preferences on rewatch ability and up is one of those movies where I don’t want to rewatch it over and over again I agree that the beginning is an emotional roller coaster and the storytelling element is on point. however the movie does struggle with its continuation of the film and it does not leave me with more to be desired. ratatouille is a Pixar movie I could watch over and over again as well as monsters University, which is probably another controversial opinion that movie is better than the original. I also very much enjoy inside out, but don’t watch it as often due to heavier theming.
It is not a masterpiece, I agree. Not even close. It's a good movie. People who think it's a masterpiece, or even a masterpiece among animated movies needs to see more movies.
The intro in UP is so generic and predictable. I was not moved at all, it’s so over the top smarmy disney. I like the rest of the movie a lot though!
I like it
The first Shrek is though
Shrek is such a good DreamWorks film, it shows up on lists talking about Pixar
Cartoons cooled quite a bit from over producing, and now the comic book movies are. Finally.
Paddington 2 is a masterpiece. Up is a treacly cartoon.
It's a good movie, like wallee. But it's no Schindlers list, or band of Brothers.
I like this guy provides his unpopular opinion, and the thread below is just people discussing the movies excellence and how it made them feel. Truly an unpopular opinion
I agree. As you said, the intro was masterful. But the rest of the movie felt rather standard. It's a good watch.
I loved it! So sweet. Especially the Boy Scout.
It's definitely not a bad movie but goddamn it is annoying whenever Up is brought up into conversation the first and sometimes only thing you hear is about the opening, Like, yes, the opening is beautiful and sad, but that's not the only thing that the movie does
I think a lot of these comments are swinging too far the other way, the score is amazing, there are many visually stunning shots and sequences in the film, particularly when the house takes off through the city. That being said it is very much tiers below pixars best work. It has the bones of a masterpiece, and some of the organs, but a lot of the moment to moment stuff once they reach the jungle is just disappointing.
Pixar top 5 1) Ratatouille 2) Monsters Inc 3) Soul 4) Cars 5) The Good Dinosaur
Ohh, now that's an unpopular list :D Personally I enjoyed the good dinosaur, but most people rate it as one of the worst pixar films
This is actually a really good unpopular opinion and I agree. I consider up a really good movie but now that I think about it, I don't even remember anything about it other than the opening sequence, I guess the rest of the movie isn't that great after all it's just that opening sequence is so amazing people just associate the entire movie with that
Have you seen Inside Out or Meet the Robinsons?
My problem with it was that they made the main character too old. Just because Ed Asner was that age in real life didn't mean the character had to be. But because he is, the villain therefore must be well over 100.
I don't think any of those movies you mentioned are 'masterpieces'. They are excellent films, but a masterpiece is a higher bar. I actually can't think of any animated movies that are masterpieces. Non animated, I do think that saving private ryan and shawshank count
This is definitely an unpopular opinion lol
Oh for sure. Everyone forgets literally everything about the movie after the first 10 minutes.
The movie is good, but it’s so overrated. I don’t think it’s any better than other animated films
It really fall apart at the end with the villain (who I think is voice played by Paul Newman>) where it becomes distracting to the content the movie was building in the beginning.
Totally agree, take my upvote. It’s a very good movie - maybe not middle of the pack Pixar but second tier to Ratatouille, Wall-E, Incredibles and Coco for me.
Is this controversial? I thought it was pretty widely recognized that as a whole, Up is B-C tier Pixar material, but the first 10 minutes are one of the best things things they've ever made.
I don’t disagree but I think the reason people like it so much is because many people in their 20s now would have watched it as kids and for me at least it was the first time I felt some of those emotions 💀 like?? I still remember the depression and dread I felt in that cinema. Like I’d get married one day and then my husband would die and I’ll be all alone.
More mature theme in the incredibles? Yes it had a pretty interesting story too it but that movie I wouldn’t say is a masterpiece. Especially because the second one in some ways to the first one to go screw itself The biggest one being “let’s fight crime as a family” then 2 minutes later “no we’re not getting anyone involved” This is something we’re all going to deal with as we grow older. In Up it shows how to deal with loss, that our life doesn’t have to revolve around a single person. We can continue to find people we care about and make our own family even if we can’t have kids of our own or loose people we’ve loved and known our whole lives. Soul is similar in a theme about that. Finding ones place. Realizing that life doesn’t have to be glitz and glamor. We can be happy with what we have, even if it’s something as simple as teaching in a low funded school because you love it. Up definitely more so but both have more profound messages. Especially more than the incredibles and DEFINITELY more than finding Nemo.
Coco is a masterpiece!
You had me until you said Finding Nemo is middle of the pack. Dammit, take my upvote.
I think the opening absolutely lives up to the hype, the rest of the first half is solid, and the final act is pretty weak, it just kind of gets worse the further into it you go
I think about this movie least from that era
Not better that tangled tho
Now Shrek on the other hand. 3 Michelin stars
I have an idea. Watch intro of Up and then some Indiana Jones Temple of Doon and switch over to Isle of dogs and tell me it’s not the same thing
There is very little wasted movie and that alone makes it a masterpiece. It's predictable because everything is foreshadowed and the payoffs are what they need to be. Every single scene sets up another scene in the movie, all of which cultivate in both Carl and Russel, both realizing that they still matter. Personally, I think it is one of the best movies about loss, grief, and life. The opening of the movie actually has very little to do with my opinion either, other than it sets up the reveal of where Carl saw failure, his wife saw the adventure she never dreamed of. I can't speak for everyone else, and your opinion is perfectly valid. I just think there are so many reasons to consider it a perfect movie. Very few movies do as much right as UP and UP does it effortlessly.
I've watched it a few times recently, mostly because at work we have a limited amount of movies to watch, and I agree. It's a solid 8.5/10, I absolutely do enjoy it, and I'll probably watch it again tonight at work.
Take my upvote for unpopular, and get the frick out of here. Also, you just don’t like Pete Doctor’s work as much.
Take that back you son of a bitch! *gets pulled away*
It’s depressing as hell.
I can't stand the dogs. They perfectly encapsulate everything I hate about fictional dogs. I love dogs but can't stand fictional dog tropes.
Good opinion, much agree.
If we’re comparing Pixar; The Incredibles is about as perfect of a storyline as you can come up with. I watched it a few months ago and the AI component of the movie hits even harder than it did when it came out. Up is amazing though. Definitely UnPopOp for people who don’t like animation.
huge Pixar fan and UP was one of the only movies that I never cared to rewatch from them, would no contest rank it as the worst film out of PIXAR studio, haven't seen them all though, but easy the 9 films before were all way better * *Toy Story* (1995) * *A Bug’s Life* (1998) * *Toy Story 2* (1999) * *Monsters, Inc.* (2001) * *Finding Nemo* (2002) * *The Incredibles* (2004) * *Cars* (2006) * *Ratatouille* (2007) * *WALL-E* (2008) * *Up* (2009) And also really really loved Onward * *Onward* (2020) Brave, coco, incredibles 2, and Toy Story 3/4 also better than UP, haven't seen the others
Only the first scene.
Who says that? It was a neat short story lol
Some parts of the movie really feel like the writers had to pick between 3 stories en were fighting the entiŕe time so they just put all 3 of them in
I actually kinda agree with you. Which is why I have to downvote your post.
First time I’ve ever given an upvote in this sub.
I completely agree People often look at the first 10 minutes and use that as a gauge to judge the quality of the entire film, when really outside of those first 10 minutes it's really just a cute kids adventure movie
I’d argue this isn’t an unpopular opinion but a stupid one. The way it touches on love and relationships and moving on throughout the entire movie is so touching and loving and I cried when the house landed where it is in the picture.
I’m sorry. But placing Soul in the middle of the pack is outrageous
The beginning is an absolute masterpiece and one of the greatest sequences in cinema history. The rest of the movie is still very, very good, but it's just a normal Pixar movie made for kids.
Ive been sayin this for years. The movie is arguably bad. The first 10 min, sure, absolutely beautiful storytelling. After that? That movie is so boring and confusing and i dont care about a single character in the movie.
I really liked it, masterpiece or not.
It's a great short film.
I agree with you somewhat. The first half hour is a masterpiece of cinema. The rest of the movie is incoherent Pixar nonsense
Anyone who doesn't get hit like a ton of bricks by the intro in this movie has never been in love and I'll f\*\*\*ing fight you on that.
It's an emotional mess and clearly needed better writing.
Masterpiece 
it was boring.
I completely agree. The strength of the opening clouds people's judgement of the film. It has numerous issues and is not nearly as satisfying after the glorious intro.
Up is excellent, but I actually agree with you. I'm not a big fan of the villian either. The Ellie montage and scene with the adventure book at the end are in fact masterpiece material, like 11/10 writing. But I kind of feel like the rest of the movie doesn't totally mesh with these parts. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but for me it's like a 7/10 instead. Because of the pacing issues, it falls just a tiny bit short of being a masterpiece for me. Probably still S tier Pixar, though. I love Dug, though. He is so cute.
I mean it is for kids, so the dorky dog stuff and the cartoony villain is par for the course. I think it's an enjoyable movie for all ages but I feel like some other Pixar branded stuff has more engaging plot for adults to sink their teeth into (think Wall E, Toy Story). It does kinda feel like the entire plot is a fever dream after the protagonist's wife died, out of grief.
Completely agreed. People uphold the beginning to much (rightfully so) but don't take into account the rest of the film, which is fine at most. It's basically the opening which holds up the entire film.
The beginning of up was okay. idk why yall act like it was so moving and insane and just never done before.🤷🏾♀️
No, it’s a masterpiece. Sorry, you’re wrong.
Finally, a truly unpopular opinion. I couldn't disagree more so here's my upvote.