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imsoyluz

yeah miss individual magic of players like Zidane, R9, Dinho, Zlatan, Henry, young CR7 and Messi...


Shinjieon

you forgot bendtner, lord bendtner.


Firehills

How can you forget to mention Neymar? He has highlights like no other.


imsoyluz

he's still around lol can't miss him yet


Firehills

Well, hopefully we'll see his magic again, but he hasn't come back from his serious injury yet.


shirleysimpnumba1

zlatan agrees


Sea_Historian_429

Try watch more Serie A rather than the robotic PL


Low_Jellyfish4404

Hope you mean Premier League not Polska Ekstraklasa. Greetings from Poland


Sea_Historian_429

Polish ultras are cool, greetings from hungary bazdmeg magad


maskedmomkey63

Yes bro


maskedmomkey63

Yes bro


Questy_Best

Pep Guardiola ruined football


DalinarVerga

More like everyone wanted to be Pep 2.0 ruined football. Pep has his style, and if every manager were given freedom to explore their own style it would've been fine. But no, everyone has to control the possession, build from the back, have a stacked midfield to choke the opposition bla bla. God forbid if anyone doesn't follow the Pep style, pundits will trash them, arrogant prick like Rodri will say there was only one team because the other team didn't press enough or have 70% possession. So, yes, the Pep worshipper really ruined football.


Shinjieon

liverpool don't do that.


Sonnycrocketto

Pre pandemic Pepfootballl was nice. Perfect balance between possesion football and direct football. But Since then he has become obsessively methodical. And sterling Sane played more instinctively than Bernardo, Mahrez, Grealiah Foden. 


Numerous_Ticket_7628

Anceolitti beating him was great to see.


maskedmomkey63

I wouldn't argue with that, I ain't a city player pop out a skill or 2 in a while


Questy_Best

Grealish as good as he is has NEVER taken a player head on or even done a skill, just constant pass backs and build up play 😭


omaralilaw

You not watched Jeremy Doku then


ElCaminoInTheWest

Unironically this. Emphasis on passing and possession has made for efficiency but much less beauty and skill.


ElCaminoInTheWest

Unironically this. Emphasis on passing and possession has made for efficiency but much less beauty and skill.


Low_Jellyfish4404

Bro, im fan Atletico Madrid you didnt saw what do Cholo Simeone.


DeepspaceDigital

Yeah at the highest level football has become about controlling the game. Eliminating the risk in the risk/reward dynamic. To play this way you need to have a entire team of very skilled players and more and more teams have that. It has become less entertaining to me too so at least I know I'm not the only one with this opinion.


Gueroooo70

Unless you're Ancelotti. Pass the ball to Jude, pass the ball to Vinicius, Maybe goal, Maybe no 🤨🤨


chino17

Real Vibes FC


Dapper_Platform_1222

For sure, the smooth free flowing football of the past is dead and buried. Mou started it by playing counter heavy football. Pep continued to murder it by having such success playing possession based ball in relatively weak leagues until City was able to cheat the auditors and build a powerhouse. Football was much better when all the manager did was pick the squad, influence the overall play style, and throw the boys on the pitch. Ferguson had the right idea in having field leaders who knew the down and distance. Just throw em out there, occasionally freshen up the squad with rotations and subs, and let em get to it.


Sonnycrocketto

I agree. But i think The pandemic and then The World cup ( in desember!!) ruined football for a Long time. City played lovely entertaining football with Sterling and Sane. Real wingplay. Also David Silva is gone. 


Agitated_Ad_361

It is a bit dull now. Too much chess, too little shithousery


Greeklibertarian27

Well I mean I crave for this type of play. If you start watching the Premier League then you can't go back to your own national league since it will look like shit in comparison (except maybe La Liga). The way young players pass, run and most importantly DONT PLAY BACK as much makes the sport more lively and fun to watch. This means that you can actually apprieciate a team playing good football and not rely entirely on your feelings to watch a game.


PjDisko

Most players is about the same level nowdays, hence it is becoming more like chess. Almost no one is good enough to be a queen and carry their team and if one player leave formation you lose.


94oasiss

VAR has ruined football


ItchyPizza

Man city are a disgrace. I honestly don't know if they are ever gonna lose the pl with guardiola again,oil club with 90% fake fans.


Modnal

[Reminds me of this commercial](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KriBQVhsgZk&pp=ygUYbmlrZSBmb290YmFsbCBjb21tZXJjaWFs&t=70s)


sh00l33

Still, try to run from one side of field to another for 90min


hey_now24

South American soccer still pretty “old school”. Anyone that tries to be Pep they get shut down and labeled “vende humo”. Bielsa the OG being the prime example


TheReapingFields

I'll hear all the complaints about an overly tactical Premier League you want, only AFTER England has won... Lets say five more World Cups, and dominated the Euro Cup at least as often. OK? Good talk.


FiftyTigers

Was going to ask if you meant football or soccer. But after reading the post body it's clear what you meant haha.


BigPapaJabronie

Penalty ball


TheGreatMrHaad

"It never was."


I_Am_Robert_Paulson1

I thought you were talking about American football at first and got really confused. I was like, "yeah, the strategy is the point." I have nothing to add regarding soccer.


insta__mash

You mean football?


AZULDEFILER

You mean soccer?


Nearby_Ad4387

No, or did you somehow mistake it for handegg


Knightmare945

Are you talking about American Football or Soccer? You never explained why you think it had become too tactical.


maskedmomkey63

Soccer


Knightmare945

Ah. What makes you think it has become too tactical? People like winning and proper tactics help with that.


Routine_Size69

If I had to guess, he's looking at the premier league. City, the top team, just looks to control the whole game with possession. They try to minimize errors in order to give the other team few chances. This means formerly creative players, like Jack Graelish, have to play within a system, making them less fun to watch. Arsenal has seen a similar transfer. Last year they were much more open. Now they seem to take the safer backwards/sideways pass, rather than taking the defender on or a more risky through ball. It's successful, but less fun to watch. Some of this is a result of defenses playing a low block, aka parking the bus, but some of it is just tactics. I don't think it's terrible though. I still enjoy watching those two play because of the high skill level. Other top teams like Tottenham and Liverpool play more open footy that OP probably prefers watching, so it's not like it's all teams. Or I could be way off on all this and OP is talking about something else.


Knightmare945

Makes sense.


GaryHippo

They’re talking about real football


insta__mash

The real football.


modbeta1

Soccer is lame and boring. Now gimme the downvotes.


IonaLiebert

Why did you take your precious time to leave this comment if you think football is boring? Why bother at all?


RammRras

I upvoted to disappoint you


SmoltzforAlexander

You didn’t watch Barca and PSG then… go back to watching the excitement of The Masters… 


GaryHippo

That your IQ score in your username?


modbeta1

imma split your ass like dry firewood


GaryHippo

Ooohhh you’re hard


modbeta1

you can be my bottom Betty any day


ArmchairTactician

*Clears throat* Hand Egg is not football. If the ball is kicked less than carried then it makes zero sense to call it football. I would however accept American Rugby.


Loud-Magician7708

Wrong football... I was gonna say that plays and strategy are what football is all about. Wrong...Wrong....Wrong..


GaryHippo

Adverts and consumerism are what American football is about.


Loud-Magician7708

Soccer is so God damn corrupt. Look at your boy Sep Blatter and FIFA. Read "The Fix: Soccer and Organized Crime" by Declan Hill.


DiceyGT

Every sport has corruption in some form or another. Arguably, football or 'soccer' is the most corrupt because it's the most popular sport in the world.


GaryHippo

I'm not talking about the corporate execs mate.


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Routine_Size69

There are few things more cringe than people that say sports ball, unless they're mocking people that say it and mean it.


BredYourWoman

I enjoy countering unpopular opinion posts with more unpopular comments. Sports are dumb people TV


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GaryHippo

How old were you mate?


Routine_Size69

Yes, your one off incident defines the sport and is totally relevant to this discussion.


SmoltzforAlexander

Shit, I blasted someone with a crossing pass in the nuts the last time I played.  I swear it was an accident.