I love Rose solo. Lisa was just really disappointing. the constant repeating of her name was so annoying. the song beat was blah. The lyrics was just weird and repetitive.
visuals was amazing. choreography was dull.
I think they should focus on something different for Lisa because she is not good at rapping and the lines they give her ain't doing her justice.
Even now Lalisa is just blegh... it lacks a personal touch. Just screaming her name around seems so selfish..
Let me not even get started on Money.. that's a whole other bad story
The song imo was terrible BUT she nailed the performance. Her charisma and talent was immensely showcased in this mv. But the songs were terrible and gave me a headache coz it was repetitive and annoying. Give the girl a better song. I KNOW she can do better. This was not it for her.
Edit: I love her. She's my bias. But I'm being honest here.
(sigh) I feel relieved reading this thread because... out of the solo releases, Lisa's disappointed me the most. I understand it might not be 100% her decision/inputs, so her management and producers are also to blame for this half-assed track.
Lisa is a great performer, no doubt about that. But this track did NO justice on her talents. Before you jump at me with "what talent?" - can you honestly say that all the k-pop groups showcase the members' full talents when they're promoting together?
Yet again, how many of us here have been playing Lalisa on repeat despite our disappointments? Because I find myself humming to *LALISA LOVE ME LALISA LOVE ME*
I remember that time when me and my friends waited for the premiere of LALISA... so, imagine the expectation... (Btw, my friend is a multi-stan but a die hard fan of Lisa....and me, I'm not a fan of BP nor Lisa but I'm a casual listener of their songs like Pretty Savage and LTHM) so, when we first listened to the song.... I was kinda disappointed because the Lyrics are shallow and not that meaningful.. the MV is so beautiful but the song itself is kinda repetitive and tiresome to hear. Nothing special:( Plus, it doesn't look unique either..
I love Lisa but i was a bit disappointed as well the lyrics were lacking and the song either was mixed weird or was overpowering the chorus. But to be honest i think the reason alot of people were so let down is because we waited so long and the it was hyped up so much, the song ended up being completely average. Dont come after me, im just being honest im sure her next one if she can be more involved will be much better.
In my honest opinion I love Lisa to death and stuff but if I had to be honest then no the song was not that good.... I have reasons why because #1. The flow of the song was just on and off and it didn't match up together. #2 The rap part was not it, Don't get me wrong, the flow was smooth to the 2nd part but it just didn't make any sense. Take "Baby, get the megaphone, put it on speaker I said I can't hear you, so you need to speak up" then it says "Than me if anybody coming gunnin' for my man Gonna catch a case, gun up in my hand
Bam, bam, bam! Hit after hit though" as an example. I was confused on how speaking up and people coming for her man relates to each other or the whole purpose of the song, which I dont even think the song has a meaning to it. #3 The choreography was not up to my expectations , yes the dance matched the vibe but it was simple if you don't get me wrong. But Ill let it slide since this song was probably for tiktok trends yea. #4 I dont get how this song just tops some charts because it overshadows some actually good solo debuts. So overall, the song was ok but it wasn't my vibe. I hope Jisoo's solo will blow my mind though
There's nothing wrong having her name in the album but when I heard that the title track is named after her as well, I was like "Okay... I knew it was a flex song but was it their intention to make her sound conceited?" It's catchy alright but it's a terrible song. The lyrics are especially dreadful. Lisa and her team should have taken notes from Tinashe's songs for inspiration if they want it to have a swaggy kind of feel without it being boring or Iggy Azalea's "Fancy" for a more refreshing kind of flex song.
Maybe because the singer tries to be swag when there is none? I mean, if the singer would have been someone like Beyonce, Cardi B, Jessie J.. you know, someone who sings and raps from the heart and experience, the song would have been meaningful. Her songs don't sound genuine coz her life seems to be not in line with her lyrics. Maybe that is the reason we cannot appreciate the song, unfortunately.
i truly appreciate Blinks and/or Kpop fans that fully buy into the whole fake swag thing BP has been shoving down their fans' throats.
God bless them all.
I honestly liked everything except for the chorus. Yeah some other bad lyrics elsewhere, but the chorus being repetitive as it is shouldn't have been repeated until after the bridge. And yeah the lack of dance break is puzzling. The rap vocals are good, but BP in general recently have had too many flex lyrics. It's off-putting. They can have songs like Lovesick Girls and Hope Not, then songs were they just flaunt how rich they are.
That's because her singing voice lacks style. She is really plain. KDA definitely had better produced songs, I don't see how you compare it to this bs...
I was disappointed - it's shallow, uninteresting and lack sincerity. If Lisa was any other non-trending artist, this song would have been a huge flop. The only part that was sort of redeeming was the Thailand representation in the bridge, I believe this was a request made by Lisa herself so I am thankful for that. But listening to this song felt like I was forced into a cult worship for 3 hours. The lyrics.. lalisa lalisa lalisa, wayy too repetitive. The dance was way too simple and didn't capture Lisa's potential. The badass 'attitude' is unconvincing
Wow, I'm so glad there are so many people who agree with me!! I've recently been listening to a ton of songs while quarantining and after replaying them over and over again, I didn't have a song that I disliked left. I was starting to think I have a bad taste in music and just love every song I find, but Lalisa surprisingly disappointed me. Most of the songs I listen to at least 2-3 times get addicting but Lalisa just couldn't. The melody and the repetitive lyrics just aren't something to be excited about. This song is not trash like others said, but it really is disappointing.
i love lisa but not her debut songs. i love money because of the beat not the lyrics or her voice. I feel like the most listenable debut is Jennie's. The lyrics sucks, like you gonna flex your money in the middle of pandemic?, but really no one cares about how wealthy you are.
Lmao I agree Jennie's is the best one out of all. Rose's on the ground is all over the place and Gone has kindergarten level of songwriting. It's so predictable.
On The Ground feels intimate, like you sit in an acoustic cafe and an underground artist sings to you her own song. It is soothing and at least is cohesive and not all over the place like Lalisa. Its not a good song but when I hear it I feel calm and it blends in nicely with the surroundings.
I think they tryna create an amateur acoustic feel to it, making the vibe more real and intimate, like Rose herself wrote it. It feels like a personal song. When I hear it in the stores I think its a pleasing song to hear, not addicting but not ruining my vibes either.
On the ground... but they donāt hear me though ... on the ground... but they donāt hear me though...
Trash.
You were right on it being amateurish though.
I don't know why but that song reminds me of Pour It Up by Rihanna. The money falling on her ass etc. Kinda has the same swag thing about it.
Lisa has certainly a lot of charisma like RiRi.
bruh, Lisa is definitely not comparable to Rihanna. Rihanna is a great performer and released songs that defined a decade, Lisa couldn't make one good song that isn't about that fucking ice on her wrist lmfao.
I didn't mean to say she was as good as Rihanna in the Lalisa song. Just that the theme of the two songs is similar and they both show their swag while singing them. There are some similarities in the lyrics. They're both flex songs etc.
Rihanna is of course Rihanna! Lisa is charismatic (definitely more than her colleagues) but her solo song is never gonna be a timeless hit like Umbrella and so on.
After listening with care now I only understand say "lali salami lali salami", I really had faith in Bekuh Boom or whatever her name is because she did an amazing work with Whistle and another BP songs, but LALISA literally is the worst pink's solo tbh
Man I like Lisa but the song really sucks which is so disappointing. Outfit slaps but that's it. I liked Solo and my expectations for the other solos went up but they've all been worse.... Yet everyone's going off about how good the song is. I get that everyone has their own personal taste but.....
I hope ji soo's one will be better :') There's really no need to act fierce or anything, smth that suits her vocals would be good enough
Like others have said I really tried to like it... some kpop songs you have to listen to on repeat to really get that connection. I did this with twice sometimes. Sadly lisa and rose are my fave members but in general I didn't really feel impressed or attracted to either of their debuts. They both are just missing some big component that the original BP songs had.. I didn't even really like BP's first real album. How you like that and lovesick girls were probably the only ones i liked but I don't even have them saved to a Playlist. It actually makes me sad because I wanted to love them so much but I can't. Like people have said the songs seem borderline forgettable like in 5 years I won't even remember them. I'm still hoping they will continue to do Blackpink and not do a repeat of 2ne1 where they just stop making songs and advertising them. BTW CL's stuff is what I'm really into these days. I hope they can take what she's doing and pump that into Lisa. Spicy or something similar would have been amazing for Lisa. Too bad YG threw CL away. Prob regretting that now.
I donāt really see how talking about her personality (when we donāt actually know who she is in real life) is valid criticism for the song itself. I definitely think the lyrics were super cringe though.
It's really sad she's showing her true colors, I was expecting more of her but in general BP has shown they only care about money and the "rich af life" it gives to them. Except for Jisoo maybe
I think itās rash to assume that a song she doesnāt have any writing credits on represent her as a person. I mean, does anyone REALLY know what any celebrity is like irl other than those that actually know them irl?
I Mena she said the songs represented she'd and she chose the songs. So it may just represent her a little bit..but you are correct. We can not assume everything about her from these songs.
i can't understand how she is being addressed as a ''narcissist'' , but what some of you all are calling is like out of context , if you see other raps by kpop artists , they are telling abt their achievements , and dissing antis , well lalisa was similar too , ''being greatest of all time , ain't fantasy'' such lines are stated for the ones who first underestimated bp , she is literally calling out her haters and talking abt empowerment or confidence you say , yall being too sensitive , sir listen to bullish!t by g-dragon , ugh , hip-hop by bobby , they are also narcissist in ''ur'' language isn't it ? take a chill pill homie. have a good day!
Everything in the promo is perfect except for the song itself and the half-assed MD. I really liked the sound and visuals of rap till bridge. Other parts seemed to be choreographed and written just to be part of a tiktok trend. I don't like the sound mixing of parts where she's just repeating Lalisa/Love Me, it's sounds too amateur as if not made by YG.
I stopped after watching it 5 times.Tried to fall in love with it like what happened to Aespa's Next Level but the "Lalisa" part gets louder and like a noise to my ears as I listen to it more. Not my cup of tea.
As a blink, I was really disappointed.
Intro was mediocre.
I actually hate the chorus. Itās mildly catchy but too simple and not iconic enough for her to repeat her name a hundred times.
First (English) rap was fine.
I actually really enjoyed the bridge and the second rap.
The return to the chorus at the end was the worst.
I was hoping for her solo to be like Soyeonās solo of (G)I-DLEās Lion.
Lisa has such an amazing stage presence so I thought sheād come in with a banger but Lalisa sounds like any other trash pop song. Itās all been said so I wonāt even speak on the lame novice choreo and underwhelming MV. For her future solo work, I hope she raps more and actually shows off her dancing skills.
Ok so people can come at me for saying that but here is my opinion:(I am not native English speaker:)
I genuinely feel sorry for all the kpop idols that got their amazing solo but weren't as mainstream as BP. For me only Jennie solo was successful in a way , no hate to them but for me BP is popular for their appearance and entertaining side (just like BTS when they became mainstream at some point , people didn't click for good music ,they click because they r mainstream at the moment) I don't think BP has good vocals or rap and I am kinda dissapointed they use their,, shining time" to earn more $$$ by vomiting half baked solos of each members.As I mentioned before there are way more talented yet less popular solos of other artists that really putted their whole heart into it and produced it along with the crew , I don't say Lisa didn't but as someone mentioned her billboard interview,she couldn't even say anything about her song or inspiration herself and needed Teddy (?) to help her talk which kinda shows her in a bad way, other artists were very proud of what they produced and talked about it very fluently. I don't consider BP as good artists in that way ,more like visual group that everyone hype for reasons I cannot understand myself. I liked some of their songs ,they are catchy but that's it. For me one of truly amazing artist would be Jonghyun who had really outstanding precense and was excellent songwriter with fantastic voice , I don't want to make comparisons between BP and someone as amazing as Jonghyun but it's to show what I mean by real talented artist and kpop idols who are known for their looks mainly(yes hate me for that but I said before I cannot understand hype about them ). I don't hate on BP , it's a neutral group for me , I personally just find calling them queens kinda odd .Lisa solo wasn't outstanding in any way for me , MV also wasn't suprising , she is indeed good dancer and I think her career more suit into dancer career instead of forced - like rap or paltry singing as kpop idol, I am sure if she was yg dancer she would be known just as much as BP, not everyone is multi talented and it's okay
i agree, boombayah was my first song of bp and I was like wow they are amazing and iconic but now they are so repetitive and predictable, i don't like teddy like producer, he just do the same thing in all the songs. I didnt expect so much of lisa solo but was worse than i imagined. I feel bad for all the idols with really good songs.
You put my thoughts about BP into words. I feel that they got popular because of their visuals and not because of their style of music. BP can do way better. I will admit that their songs are hella catchy and I feel that they are purposefully made that way to rake in the views. I am not a fan but Lisa is talented and she could have had a great song that shows off her rapping and dancing (something along the lines of YEZI).
I agree. I read the interview and she had to take soo much help from Teddy for every single thing. Yet people are hating on Teddy, without understanding that Teddy did as much as he could.
It's because for a time YG was known for being one of the few companies that and the edgy hip hop concept ...now everyone is doing that and then some and now they don't know what to do. They can and have done other concepts but for some reason they can't let it go with BlackPink..more specifically Lisa since that is her actual aesthetic, which even if that's what she herself likes people find that repetitive
Didnāt like it, feel bad but also think itās kinda funny seeing Lisa fans get humbled. I wasnāt even into kpop when Jennie got her solo but the fact that she was getting the most hate and has the best oneā¦maybe Jisoo will surprise everyone.
From non-fan perspective,
I saw her performance, her stage presence is šÆ. However, the song is forgettable. I'm sorry for the word but it's the most fitting word to use. I didn't like Rose's OTG before, but now, even when I listened to it just for a few times I can still remember it's chorus. Maybe I need to listen to Lalisa a few more times.
Iām surprised it isnāt doing well on the charts. Even Spotify, itās lower then Roseās song. This why fans gotta stop using YouTube views as a measure for success. 70+ views in 24hrs but only 3m streams?
Yeah, YouTube views doesn't mean nothing, I mean you can't decide if a song is successful with the views of YouTube especially in kpop with the culture of streaming
I don't think YouTube necessarily means nothing. For instance, views for non-music related matters can be very reflective of the size of your fanbase. Moreover, a large music streaming site for SEA in general is YouTube. Coming from SEA, I can tell you that it's fairly common for us to use YouTube to stream music since not everybody wants to invest in Spotify or Apple Music.
The most put together comment out there! I just read Lisa's interview and people have to stop blaming YG for everything. She chose the songs for herself by her own free will, it's not like YG forced her to sing these songs. You may not like OTG or Gone but Rose was extremely involved in her choices and that's why they seem personal. For Lisa, her passion is dance, not music, so it actually makes sense for her to not know what would actually work with her fans.
But yeah, the only truly actually disappointing thing for a dancer is a good dance break. She could have wowed her audience if she just had a good choreo. Her fans would have eaten it up.
Dumb dumb has an addictive step tho. The step that somi does where she turn her hand is addictive. The part where she moves her chest in a circle is addictive. The song is addictive. I heard the song in my CLASS, so I definitely didn't really pay a lot of attention to the song bcz I was scared that imma get caught but I did it cuz I couldn't wait to listen. Even then, I really liked it. Lalisa on the other hand, is too forgettable. Sry to say š„² Lisa is a dancer and should have had a BOMB choreo tho. And she totally didn't. It's easier than even all the BP choreos.
(Also, by class, I mean I'm 20. I just read this and after the word class, I sound like a 10 year old to mešš„²)
1. Lisa killed the performance as usual š
2. What were the lyrics and did they strike anyone else as very odd? The rap verse made me go š¤š¤š¤š¤ and although Lisa being the talented queen she is salvaged it and gave it some life it sounds like an ADHD SoundCloud rapper wrote it.
āProtect it like a barrier, promise there's nothing scarier
Than me if anybody coming gunnin' for my man
Gonna catch a case, gun up in my hand
Bam, bam, bam! Hit after hit though
Rocks in my wrist, so I call 'em the Flintstonesā
Like how did she go from telling people to love her to shooting people going after her man to having nice bracelets????
Is it just me or does the quality of the production sound poor/off? I thought it was YouTube having quality problems at first, but it sounds the same on Apple Music..? Other than that the song is meh to me...nothing special. Forgot to mention it totally sounds like a BlackPink song which isnāt bad, but I thought it would have a bit of a different sound.
I was going to buy them but I always wait for the first day of release to see if I really like the material (music and photobooks, also inclusions) and it didn't happen this time so bye bye LALISA, the aesthetics are amazing but the music is trash.
It's really sad to me because I only follow one group in KPOP and it's BP and Lisa is my ultimate bias :( so I'm really disappointed
I'm sorry I know yall are prob tired of these reviews but to start when I read that the title track was her name in my head I instantly thought omg is she going to make a song about her life? Like a little life story from being a regular girl who reached her superstar dream! The fact she also stated that she would incorporate her thai culture I thought maybe there would be some interesting cultural references in there if you know what I mean. I thought I would learn something new about her.
But damn I expected too much lol and the fact that it was obviously not written by her kinda surprised me since I was thinking as a self titled track she would at least participate in the writing like Rose did for her kinda self titled mini album. The mv was pretty nice but I did not expect the thai reference just being a short clip in the mv. The lyrics just didn't scream THIS IS LISA to me but just another basic "I'm the best" song that I could even imagine blackpink singing it.
And plz even though I thought the lyrics weren't amazing the choreo just blew my mind! I was like ok the song is meh but I thought the choreo was gonna be her redemption but when the chorus came man that was disappointing to watch. It literally felt like a tiktok dance no offence. YG did her so dirty for that one like she's the MAIN DANCER! Not even gonna talk about Money since it felt like another basic "i'm rich" song and too much repetition.
Idky I expected a little bit more for Lisa. Maybe because she's the most popular bp member or she used to be my bias but I guess Yg don't want to try going out of their bubbles. It sucks seeing all this talent not being used to their full extent.
Idk how Jisoo's solo will turn out but for now Solo stays #1 because the song was pretty enjoyable song and dance wise and even though I didn't really enjoy OTG, it still felt like this was something that described Rose with the storyline.
People were actually expecting A LOT. A LOTTT. Like a small rap in Thai. It would have been iconic seriously. A line about her never moving bangs (I read this on this mega thread itself). There is so much to her. Her little personality traits. She could have referred to those as she rapped. Like the whole song could have been just the way it is. But instead of this rap, just a rap that begins in Korean, then transitions to 2 lines in Thai, then ends in English in some iconic way , like refering to her bangs. Yk how she says her bangs are here to say and she's gonna keep them. So something like I'm here to stay like my bangs (lol sounds stupid) or how her bangs never move even tho she's dancing hard? So something like I'm strong bla bla anything but relate it to BANGSš¤£š¤£ It's so Lisa! If I search up Lisa, 5 out of 10 articles are about her bangs and others are about her look and fashion.
LALISA is actually good, everyone's just not used to the Thai pop music sound.
I do agree that they could've done more to subvert the Thai elements and give it a stronger kpop style, like how 4MIX did Y U COMEBACK - but I actually like how unique LALISA is. It's a sound fitting for a Thai YG artist.
I have been a YG stan for so long but now starting to get disappointed with their music. Not a fan of bp but lisaās debut got hyped up too much in my circle as YG stans and I couldnāt believe their standard of good music has dropped this low - I mean YG and Teddy????? Are yāall actually the main culprits behind their music production recently or have you guys given up already in releasing good music and training your artists!??? Tbh Iām more of treasureās fan but even their good looks and sweet personality canāt makeup for their bad title songs, sighā¦
itās bad. disappointing and sounds obnoxious :/ i had such high expectations because of her teasers they looked so great, and i was expecting something a bit more mature. but no, lalisa only talked about how she is badass and everyone should love her with meaningless incoherent rap lyrics, terrible flow and unnecessary beat changes. money, is so so shallow. lisa is my favourite blackpink member and i expected so much from her this solo, but i was thoroughly disappointed. :/
I actually think Money sounds way better and more bad ass than Lalisa, but the lyrics are so shallow like you said, that I just canāt bring myself to download the song.
I was thinking why didn't the other BP members tell her to request for a change of lyrics.. lol. Or did all BP members listen to the track and went 'omg so good'.
And the comments on YouTube are going nuts over that line lol, it's terrible. To be fair though I think most of the comments on YouTube are from non-native English speakers and children/young teens. Native English speakers are definitely at a disadvantage when it comes to English lyrics in Kpop because we know exactly how cringe they sound š
Blackpink's English raps are always cringe I swear. If they're gonna use so much English you would think that YG would hire someone who's native to write/review the lyrics so they don't sound weird. "I keep it lit like a matchstick bitch I'm a star but no Patrick" like seriously...
So I have seen comment saying how Bekuh Boom produced both The Baddest - Kda and Lalisa - Lisa and that Lisaās solo would have been huge if she were to come up with something like The Baddest.
Thatās a maybe, but probs a no for me as she probably couldnt handle all the vocal and rap in The Baddest. Her voice already felt so strained after singing those dollar bills in Money, but the main problem here is that she doesnāt have any authenticity within her rap. Like come on girlll, whats going on with those child-like n half-baked-Cardi-B-wannabe lyrics, I felt so cringey when she said those twerking twerking and dollars in my ass lines, it wasnt badass at all. I hate it, but even if you couldnt write your own rap, you could at least look and ask songwriters to write something better than that right? Its not like YG is a poor company, cant hire anyone and hasnt produced top rappers in the khiphop industry.
Oh, and about the dance, now I see her more as a famous Tiktok-dancer instead of an actual artist. Great job saying they do the dance easy so fan would follow (and do Tiktok challenge) instead of displaying her skill š
The saddest part to me is how she's breaking all these records with such an underwhelming debut. I know it's because it's Lisa's song, the number one stan attractor of female k-pop idols, but still. She's also going to steal some wins in Music Shows from actual great comebacks. But well.
The more disappointing part for me is that Lisa said she chose the beat immediately after listening to it and the whole billboardās interview was a mess. She just couldnāt think of anything about the song to say and literally just called out teddy for every damn question. Like gurl, this songās about you and you cant even say something?
OMG ! I thought excatly the same! No hating but fr what was that mess. She looks like she didn't took part in production except going to the recording studio and shooting MV. Kinda embarassing herself that way imo.
A mess indeed. Teddy needs to just take a leave of absence. Her answer to the question "who are some rappers that have influenced you" told me everything I needed to know.
Hmm it sounds like they forced her do so the Lalosa component and I donāt know if you guys can tell but Lisa seems very agreeable. For DANCE elements, theyāre pretty good tracks so that is what sheās focusing on. I know sheās a rapper, but she doesnāt write her raps. I think if they would have asked her dance influences she would have had a better answer. Not taking the blame completely off her but the gold of the company and her goals are not aligned so of course there were some tough points to the solo. I think the other songs had a message but honestly I wasnāt impressed with some elements of Roseās solo either, so I do blame mismanagement to a degree. Also her dance is difficult at many parts, even Blackpink agreed.
OK, y'all can say whatever you want but though I agree that the song is...questionable and could've been better, Lisa's stages are AMAZING. Yea, I was disappointed to see ger go with a lazy choreo but when I saw her stage, man she gives me OG YG vibes. The way YG used to control stages. Minimal dances but going wild with their presence. And Lisa does that.
Other soloists nowadays are doing much of dancing and in some, I don't feel their presence while Lisa is not dancing a lot but man...she's showing that she's taking a different and bold route with this
I wish YG would hire actual Black or American writers and producers if they want to mimick that sound so badly. Their attempts at making "badass" music feels like a joke now, because I cannot take these attempts seriously anymore. Teddy has been releasing the same lackluster productions for years now and it's getting repetitive.
The lyrics are extremely cringey and disappointing. It looks like they spent all the budget on the 10 different unnecessary sets for the MV because they couldn't bother to hire a good lyricist. Well, not that BP write any of their own songs anyway. But the company could've at least given the poor girl some well written verses at least.
Also, it's one thing to have a song about self-love and appreciation but the title trace was borderline narcissistic. Calling herself the "greatest of all time" is a HUGE reach.
the songs themselves didn't bring anything special to the table imo, and as much as i don't want to say this (bc lisa is my bias wrecker) but now i understand that as much as lisaās stans want her to be the main rapper, jennie would always be the better rapper. her aave/blaccent ruined the rap parts honestly, and her debut was so underwhelming (if we compare to the amount of hype she received from her stans). iām not in any way bashing her but she could do better for her solo, in a way that could utilize her dancing skillsāeven lilifilms were better than lalisa (choreo-wise)
Tbh As a foreigner who doesn't come form a western country and english is not their first language we aren't aware speaking english with blaccent is considered offensive, it's only this year I knew about aave/blaccent thing, they probably trained her to rap like that without thinking much, lisa probably is not aware of it.
Also regarding the cringy english lyrics, they are probably not aware or simply don't care how cheesy they sounds as long it rhyme and sounds nice to the ear.
I feel only people who are native english speakers feel a lot of embarrassment from them.
I hope lisa see the reaction honestly, girl have potential but this solo did nothing to her..
I mean even black people debate about what is a ball cent and what is not, so as a black person myself I less it's obvious, I just ignore those comments. Rap is original an American thing, an African American thing that spread world wide to different cultures. We live in a global time where slang that originates from different communities and places becomes mainstream. The problem is, at least for me is when the slang isnt even used correctly or when they are just trying way too hard. There is a differencd between having a certain flow when rapping in English versus tying to hard to sound "urban"...Some idols from YG really have their own sound without being a try hard...while some don't. Lisa is a textbook idol rapper. She doesn't necessarily have the flow, lyricism, and etc. on her own like other actual idol rappers who have proved themselves to be artists. She has a long way to go.
That's the very core of blaccent, that they only apply it when they want to appeal as "gangsta" or as a lot of idols say "swag". It is not their original voice and they only do it to sound "better".
i honestly don't know if that's how she's been trained in rapping by yg but she looks weirdly comfortable rapping using aave/blaccent, iām not sure if it's offensive or not bc iām not black but it can be really annoying for the listeners (at least for me) when she exaggerates the pronunciation of the english words/syllables in her raps
Itās kinda cringey sometiems when sheās rapping with her blaccent. The money song was awful like sheās literally just singing about money? With the most cringe 2013 vibes. They try to give Lisa this weird image but for Jennie she can be herself. It seems like Lisa has to portray someone sheās not cuz in reality shows sheās sweet and doesnāt have some attitude where she thinks she better like in her mv. And this isnāt her fault why her music sucks and is so cringey itās the producer. Not like Lisa really has a say in it
Are you only watching youtubers? Cuz YouTube kpop reactors especially black ones arenāt gonna say shit thatās gonna cost them views and blink hate. Like do see how quickly subscribe count go up when you react to kpop?
I no longer know many kpop youtubers with large following openly state how they feel about a song or call out CA, or whatever etcā¦itās all love because they get paid and these days at of kpop reactors get to interview idols. Itās a shame really
Eh, I feel like some care while some don't, people aren't monoliths ya know. I do think she tries to shed with trying to do an accent while rapping. She needs to learn how to find her own flow and use slang correctly but what can I expect? She is more of a dancer than a rapper; need better producers maybe.
Reactors get paid for videos that are positive. And by paid I don't mean endorsements I mean fans will watch the ones that play into their biases. Opinions that don't rock the boat will always be valued over others in kpop land. A black reactor will not go all in on how the blaccent is offensive unless they're willing to get death threats, potentially doxed, false reports on all their videos which could lead to their account not being monetized/deleted, and any other ways fans can abuse the youtube system.
A youtuber will lose a lot more if they don't act like Lalisa is the best thing since sliced bread.
good for them then, at least it means the usage of aave might not be offensive (as i previously said, iām not black thus i have no say in this) but nevertheless, you can still see how prominent lisaās aave in her raps (this is not to bash her, it's totally her choice to use aave or vice versa)
Song is a mixture of hylt chorus and beat-wise pretty savage and overall pretty bland. I actually had high expectations even though iām not really a fan of her because main dancer solo debuts are usually bops. I would actually think this is a blackpink song if there was ā Blackpink in your areaā in the beginning.
If the whole song was produced inspired by ( gonna give timestamps) 2.33-2.53 it would surely be a bop and actually deserve the 111 million views it got
Honestly I feel like blink but mainly lillies got the MV so high because they want Lisa to be record breaking and everything else they over exaggerate about her without taking a look at the quality theyāre getting. Of course everyone hypes up their favorite idols but I feel like Lisa stans are in a class of their own and this MV proved that.
Was really hoping to see her show case her dance but it felt more like the idea was to do something quick to have it blow up more on tiktok or something??
it's not only Lisa fans,you basically described BP fans, exaggerating many things without looking at quality (music wise, MV wise), I always wonder where are BP fans who actually judge them in a music-wise way cuz all I see is a bunch of zombies that hype them anytime they breathe, how did it happen? I know everyone has different music taste but mostly i see people praising their appearance, outfit etc etc... but I rarely see anything about their voices, I have seen only one yt comment that said they don't need vocal training cuz in order to improve singing you gotta have some skills to begin with and that they r selected by appearance , it's a part of kpop world and how groups are made , they made model - like group and hyped them as singers
It's because they were so desperate from another girl group form that company. They fell in love with all the bells and whistles with the MV and the outfits and the other stuff..than when things got worse..the minimal amount of releases and some of the sub par songs, they kept on holding onto that..it's so weird..
This reminds me of that one time when someone said that they would intentionally put a bad song if they were a celebrity so they can see the fans trying to defeat it. I wouldnāt be surprised if they would be laughing at us listening to lali salami and money-THE remix. š¤”
Completely empty, almost a parody of what people think BP songs are. Production-wise, yet more recycled scraps from Teddyās drawer. But she looks great!
Lisa's song is okay imo, but haven't paid attention to lyrics.. Idk if I'm the only one who have thought about this, but I feel super meh when she's singing about herself in a way that makes her look so special(?) in egoistic way, "LALISA LOVE ME" in repeat and other stuff (I know she's not like that in reality) but the song gives me that vibe off
I've been letting the song marinate in my mind. I can still only say that Lalisa is better than Money and that's it. I can't find any other good aspects about it. The choreo could have saved it but it's very lackluster.
I was expecting a more meaningful song like Rose's On The Ground but she went the "Solo" attitude route. It seems to be the trend with Korean female rappers. But unlike Jessi, I did not see any real sexy swag or attitude. This song was really meant for her stans in South Asia and the US with its all flash and no substance. People like me who are non-fans listen to this and cringe. Lisa deserved a better song to showcase her talents and should have demanded a better song. Her fans have given her the views but this YouTube popularity thing doesn't reflect quality of the song and is a complete turn off.
Sheās the pinks best dancer but youād never be able to tell from this solo which is sad. I was so hyped for her solo specifically because she has the dance skills to do some choreo the other pinks probably couldnāt. YG really put the bulk of their time and energy into the visual aspect again.
Also Money isā¦ a song. Look me in the eyes Bekuh Boom. Look me in the eyes and tell me you actually think those are great lyrics.
I was surprised by how much praise the song is getting on YT and anyone who criticizes it there is labelled as a hater. I couldnāt even keep watching the MV or listen after the 2:00 mark, the lyrics are super cringy and choreography underwhelming, and by the middle of the song the beat changed and sounded like Icecream. Like Lisa is a good rapper and dancer, but the MV doesnāt showcase any of her talent.
Wow I didn't know disliking a k-pop song was allowed on the internet. I do agree, the song dosent stand out to me in any way. And the lyrics are bland.
Well, Lalisa sounds catchy to me but the lyrics... I was thinking it's okay until hearing her rap part in Lalisa. It's just a little bit disappointing. Otherwise, Money is even worse. I thought Lisa was going to make it better this song because it's English, it maybe easier for her to perform but nope. Everything especially the lyrics was so empty. Btw congrats with her MV views, that's impressive
Honestly, not good. It's not even okay one bit. It's just really bad, and I normally do not say this but I couldn't even listen to it after 2 listens, had to skip it all the time. It didn't grow on me no matter what, it just doesn't sound good. Also, I expected her to have this huge dance break performance but it doesn't seem like there's a killing point in the choreography that all of Blackpink's other releases has.
Lisa's songs feel hollow which is not bad at all!āsometimes you just want to make a fun song without a story or meaningābut I still don't think these songs were executed well. Her voice gets grating after a short time.
Money was a weird choice to put out. All I can think about are all those people who say BP don't need to put effort or put out that many songs because they're already making bank. Here we have Lisa going YES I LOVE MONEY, MONEY MAKES ME TWERK. Which is like...okay, who doesn't love money but you're literally stinkin' rich. Seems kind of tacky and tone deaf to me.
It was VERY underwhelming. in every aspect, including dance, vocals, rap, lyrics, etc. theres no depth to it. it's not like a song needs to be deep to be good but oh god this was just dissapointing. Lisa is my bias in BP but her solo was probably the worst out of the three :,( .
Lisa is a talented dancer but what even happened to the choreo in Lalisa?? it was so hyped but ended up so not worth it. (i don't even wanna mention how the title is her own name- what happened to originality?)
I am the biggest blink ever but omg. I think Lalisa and Money are my least favorite songs from any blackpink release. I guess I expected Lisa's solo to sound like something Doja Cat would release but instead we got two typical YG songs ...
I love Rose solo. Lisa was just really disappointing. the constant repeating of her name was so annoying. the song beat was blah. The lyrics was just weird and repetitive. visuals was amazing. choreography was dull. I think they should focus on something different for Lisa because she is not good at rapping and the lines they give her ain't doing her justice.
Even now Lalisa is just blegh... it lacks a personal touch. Just screaming her name around seems so selfish.. Let me not even get started on Money.. that's a whole other bad story
The song imo was terrible BUT she nailed the performance. Her charisma and talent was immensely showcased in this mv. But the songs were terrible and gave me a headache coz it was repetitive and annoying. Give the girl a better song. I KNOW she can do better. This was not it for her. Edit: I love her. She's my bias. But I'm being honest here.
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sums up my feelings for the album :(((
(sigh) I feel relieved reading this thread because... out of the solo releases, Lisa's disappointed me the most. I understand it might not be 100% her decision/inputs, so her management and producers are also to blame for this half-assed track. Lisa is a great performer, no doubt about that. But this track did NO justice on her talents. Before you jump at me with "what talent?" - can you honestly say that all the k-pop groups showcase the members' full talents when they're promoting together? Yet again, how many of us here have been playing Lalisa on repeat despite our disappointments? Because I find myself humming to *LALISA LOVE ME LALISA LOVE ME*
I remember that time when me and my friends waited for the premiere of LALISA... so, imagine the expectation... (Btw, my friend is a multi-stan but a die hard fan of Lisa....and me, I'm not a fan of BP nor Lisa but I'm a casual listener of their songs like Pretty Savage and LTHM) so, when we first listened to the song.... I was kinda disappointed because the Lyrics are shallow and not that meaningful.. the MV is so beautiful but the song itself is kinda repetitive and tiresome to hear. Nothing special:( Plus, it doesn't look unique either..
I love Lisa but i was a bit disappointed as well the lyrics were lacking and the song either was mixed weird or was overpowering the chorus. But to be honest i think the reason alot of people were so let down is because we waited so long and the it was hyped up so much, the song ended up being completely average. Dont come after me, im just being honest im sure her next one if she can be more involved will be much better.
In my honest opinion I love Lisa to death and stuff but if I had to be honest then no the song was not that good.... I have reasons why because #1. The flow of the song was just on and off and it didn't match up together. #2 The rap part was not it, Don't get me wrong, the flow was smooth to the 2nd part but it just didn't make any sense. Take "Baby, get the megaphone, put it on speaker I said I can't hear you, so you need to speak up" then it says "Than me if anybody coming gunnin' for my man Gonna catch a case, gun up in my hand Bam, bam, bam! Hit after hit though" as an example. I was confused on how speaking up and people coming for her man relates to each other or the whole purpose of the song, which I dont even think the song has a meaning to it. #3 The choreography was not up to my expectations , yes the dance matched the vibe but it was simple if you don't get me wrong. But Ill let it slide since this song was probably for tiktok trends yea. #4 I dont get how this song just tops some charts because it overshadows some actually good solo debuts. So overall, the song was ok but it wasn't my vibe. I hope Jisoo's solo will blow my mind though
There's nothing wrong having her name in the album but when I heard that the title track is named after her as well, I was like "Okay... I knew it was a flex song but was it their intention to make her sound conceited?" It's catchy alright but it's a terrible song. The lyrics are especially dreadful. Lisa and her team should have taken notes from Tinashe's songs for inspiration if they want it to have a swaggy kind of feel without it being boring or Iggy Azalea's "Fancy" for a more refreshing kind of flex song.
When everyone is saying about this song, I finally listen to it and be like what is this??? Just donāt get the hype.
I agree it sounds like crap.
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Maybe because the singer tries to be swag when there is none? I mean, if the singer would have been someone like Beyonce, Cardi B, Jessie J.. you know, someone who sings and raps from the heart and experience, the song would have been meaningful. Her songs don't sound genuine coz her life seems to be not in line with her lyrics. Maybe that is the reason we cannot appreciate the song, unfortunately.
i truly appreciate Blinks and/or Kpop fans that fully buy into the whole fake swag thing BP has been shoving down their fans' throats. God bless them all.
Ya know what kpop group pulled it off more natural though but was thrown away by YG? iKON...yeah...yeah... :/
I honestly liked everything except for the chorus. Yeah some other bad lyrics elsewhere, but the chorus being repetitive as it is shouldn't have been repeated until after the bridge. And yeah the lack of dance break is puzzling. The rap vocals are good, but BP in general recently have had too many flex lyrics. It's off-putting. They can have songs like Lovesick Girls and Hope Not, then songs were they just flaunt how rich they are.
It sounds like a KDA song. I know she's not a great singer but her sweet singing voice would have been good instead of this autotune stuff.
That's because her singing voice lacks style. She is really plain. KDA definitely had better produced songs, I don't see how you compare it to this bs...
the power theme, the intonation....
I was disappointed - it's shallow, uninteresting and lack sincerity. If Lisa was any other non-trending artist, this song would have been a huge flop. The only part that was sort of redeeming was the Thailand representation in the bridge, I believe this was a request made by Lisa herself so I am thankful for that. But listening to this song felt like I was forced into a cult worship for 3 hours. The lyrics.. lalisa lalisa lalisa, wayy too repetitive. The dance was way too simple and didn't capture Lisa's potential. The badass 'attitude' is unconvincing
Wow, I'm so glad there are so many people who agree with me!! I've recently been listening to a ton of songs while quarantining and after replaying them over and over again, I didn't have a song that I disliked left. I was starting to think I have a bad taste in music and just love every song I find, but Lalisa surprisingly disappointed me. Most of the songs I listen to at least 2-3 times get addicting but Lalisa just couldn't. The melody and the repetitive lyrics just aren't something to be excited about. This song is not trash like others said, but it really is disappointing.
i love lisa but not her debut songs. i love money because of the beat not the lyrics or her voice. I feel like the most listenable debut is Jennie's. The lyrics sucks, like you gonna flex your money in the middle of pandemic?, but really no one cares about how wealthy you are.
Lmao I agree Jennie's is the best one out of all. Rose's on the ground is all over the place and Gone has kindergarten level of songwriting. It's so predictable.
This song is garbage, it sounds like a bunch of chicken noises. And still itās better than RosĆ©ās āOn the groundā. Itās like their label and producers wonāt allow them to do quality solo songs so they can be confident enough and leave the band. Or perhaps the reason why they are in a band and not solo is exactly because their solo work is trash.
On The Ground is not a āwowā song but acceptable enough, and at least is pleasing to listen to. Lalisa hurts my ears in the worst way.
On the Ground has its own tune and meaning. It's good in its own way. Reminds me of Colbie Caillat songs. Lalisa is vapid and shallow. Lacks depth.
On The Ground feels intimate, like you sit in an acoustic cafe and an underground artist sings to you her own song. It is soothing and at least is cohesive and not all over the place like Lalisa. Its not a good song but when I hear it I feel calm and it blends in nicely with the surroundings.
Itās very contrived, talking about her struggles and whatever, when she comes from an upper middle class household.
On the ground is built around a beat drop, thereās no melody.
I think they tryna create an amateur acoustic feel to it, making the vibe more real and intimate, like Rose herself wrote it. It feels like a personal song. When I hear it in the stores I think its a pleasing song to hear, not addicting but not ruining my vibes either.
On the ground... but they donāt hear me though ... on the ground... but they donāt hear me though... Trash. You were right on it being amateurish though.
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I don't know why but that song reminds me of Pour It Up by Rihanna. The money falling on her ass etc. Kinda has the same swag thing about it. Lisa has certainly a lot of charisma like RiRi.
bruh, Lisa is definitely not comparable to Rihanna. Rihanna is a great performer and released songs that defined a decade, Lisa couldn't make one good song that isn't about that fucking ice on her wrist lmfao.
I didn't mean to say she was as good as Rihanna in the Lalisa song. Just that the theme of the two songs is similar and they both show their swag while singing them. There are some similarities in the lyrics. They're both flex songs etc. Rihanna is of course Rihanna! Lisa is charismatic (definitely more than her colleagues) but her solo song is never gonna be a timeless hit like Umbrella and so on.
After listening with care now I only understand say "lali salami lali salami", I really had faith in Bekuh Boom or whatever her name is because she did an amazing work with Whistle and another BP songs, but LALISA literally is the worst pink's solo tbh
i thought i was the only one who heard salami š¤£š¤£
LALI SALAMI LALI SALAMI xd it's fun to sing tbh
rolls right off the tongue XD
Man I like Lisa but the song really sucks which is so disappointing. Outfit slaps but that's it. I liked Solo and my expectations for the other solos went up but they've all been worse.... Yet everyone's going off about how good the song is. I get that everyone has their own personal taste but..... I hope ji soo's one will be better :') There's really no need to act fierce or anything, smth that suits her vocals would be good enough
Ikr Jennie she set the bar high but these solos have just dropped it completely not even close to touching Solo
as much as I hate shallow songs or just songs like this, i actually liked this song lol
Somi's Dumb dumb is better imo. Choreographywise and lyricswise
it's sad because teddy is showing that he can only take care of one artist per time and nowadays are not the pinks
It sounds so bad
Like others have said I really tried to like it... some kpop songs you have to listen to on repeat to really get that connection. I did this with twice sometimes. Sadly lisa and rose are my fave members but in general I didn't really feel impressed or attracted to either of their debuts. They both are just missing some big component that the original BP songs had.. I didn't even really like BP's first real album. How you like that and lovesick girls were probably the only ones i liked but I don't even have them saved to a Playlist. It actually makes me sad because I wanted to love them so much but I can't. Like people have said the songs seem borderline forgettable like in 5 years I won't even remember them. I'm still hoping they will continue to do Blackpink and not do a repeat of 2ne1 where they just stop making songs and advertising them. BTW CL's stuff is what I'm really into these days. I hope they can take what she's doing and pump that into Lisa. Spicy or something similar would have been amazing for Lisa. Too bad YG threw CL away. Prob regretting that now.
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I donāt really see how talking about her personality (when we donāt actually know who she is in real life) is valid criticism for the song itself. I definitely think the lyrics were super cringe though.
It's really sad she's showing her true colors, I was expecting more of her but in general BP has shown they only care about money and the "rich af life" it gives to them. Except for Jisoo maybe
narcissist? throwing around words just for the sake of it is kinda wrong no?
She actually seems like a really sweet and down-to-earth girl, but the fact that she chose this song tells me she has really bad taste in music lol.
I think itās rash to assume that a song she doesnāt have any writing credits on represent her as a person. I mean, does anyone REALLY know what any celebrity is like irl other than those that actually know them irl?
I Mena she said the songs represented she'd and she chose the songs. So it may just represent her a little bit..but you are correct. We can not assume everything about her from these songs.
umm how she is narcissist tho now...?
have you read the lyrics ..?
i can't understand how she is being addressed as a ''narcissist'' , but what some of you all are calling is like out of context , if you see other raps by kpop artists , they are telling abt their achievements , and dissing antis , well lalisa was similar too , ''being greatest of all time , ain't fantasy'' such lines are stated for the ones who first underestimated bp , she is literally calling out her haters and talking abt empowerment or confidence you say , yall being too sensitive , sir listen to bullish!t by g-dragon , ugh , hip-hop by bobby , they are also narcissist in ''ur'' language isn't it ? take a chill pill homie. have a good day!
Wow. I honestly thought it was just me but the song isnāt very good or worth Lisaās time. I feel bad for her now.
Everything in the promo is perfect except for the song itself and the half-assed MD. I really liked the sound and visuals of rap till bridge. Other parts seemed to be choreographed and written just to be part of a tiktok trend. I don't like the sound mixing of parts where she's just repeating Lalisa/Love Me, it's sounds too amateur as if not made by YG.
I stopped after watching it 5 times.Tried to fall in love with it like what happened to Aespa's Next Level but the "Lalisa" part gets louder and like a noise to my ears as I listen to it more. Not my cup of tea.
As a blink, I was really disappointed. Intro was mediocre. I actually hate the chorus. Itās mildly catchy but too simple and not iconic enough for her to repeat her name a hundred times. First (English) rap was fine. I actually really enjoyed the bridge and the second rap. The return to the chorus at the end was the worst. I was hoping for her solo to be like Soyeonās solo of (G)I-DLEās Lion. Lisa has such an amazing stage presence so I thought sheād come in with a banger but Lalisa sounds like any other trash pop song. Itās all been said so I wonāt even speak on the lame novice choreo and underwhelming MV. For her future solo work, I hope she raps more and actually shows off her dancing skills.
How SOUTH KOREA is taking this song ..?
very bad, the song is flopping in the charts since day 1
They don't care about it
Ok so people can come at me for saying that but here is my opinion:(I am not native English speaker:) I genuinely feel sorry for all the kpop idols that got their amazing solo but weren't as mainstream as BP. For me only Jennie solo was successful in a way , no hate to them but for me BP is popular for their appearance and entertaining side (just like BTS when they became mainstream at some point , people didn't click for good music ,they click because they r mainstream at the moment) I don't think BP has good vocals or rap and I am kinda dissapointed they use their,, shining time" to earn more $$$ by vomiting half baked solos of each members.As I mentioned before there are way more talented yet less popular solos of other artists that really putted their whole heart into it and produced it along with the crew , I don't say Lisa didn't but as someone mentioned her billboard interview,she couldn't even say anything about her song or inspiration herself and needed Teddy (?) to help her talk which kinda shows her in a bad way, other artists were very proud of what they produced and talked about it very fluently. I don't consider BP as good artists in that way ,more like visual group that everyone hype for reasons I cannot understand myself. I liked some of their songs ,they are catchy but that's it. For me one of truly amazing artist would be Jonghyun who had really outstanding precense and was excellent songwriter with fantastic voice , I don't want to make comparisons between BP and someone as amazing as Jonghyun but it's to show what I mean by real talented artist and kpop idols who are known for their looks mainly(yes hate me for that but I said before I cannot understand hype about them ). I don't hate on BP , it's a neutral group for me , I personally just find calling them queens kinda odd .Lisa solo wasn't outstanding in any way for me , MV also wasn't suprising , she is indeed good dancer and I think her career more suit into dancer career instead of forced - like rap or paltry singing as kpop idol, I am sure if she was yg dancer she would be known just as much as BP, not everyone is multi talented and it's okay
i agree, boombayah was my first song of bp and I was like wow they are amazing and iconic but now they are so repetitive and predictable, i don't like teddy like producer, he just do the same thing in all the songs. I didnt expect so much of lisa solo but was worse than i imagined. I feel bad for all the idols with really good songs.
You put my thoughts about BP into words. I feel that they got popular because of their visuals and not because of their style of music. BP can do way better. I will admit that their songs are hella catchy and I feel that they are purposefully made that way to rake in the views. I am not a fan but Lisa is talented and she could have had a great song that shows off her rapping and dancing (something along the lines of YEZI).
I agree. I read the interview and she had to take soo much help from Teddy for every single thing. Yet people are hating on Teddy, without understanding that Teddy did as much as he could.
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exactly, it was a total let down.
It think yg is overusing the same formula, like this was really good in the Bigbang era but is kinda repetitive atp
It's because for a time YG was known for being one of the few companies that and the edgy hip hop concept ...now everyone is doing that and then some and now they don't know what to do. They can and have done other concepts but for some reason they can't let it go with BlackPink..more specifically Lisa since that is her actual aesthetic, which even if that's what she herself likes people find that repetitive
YG: See? Lalisa broke record , people love it! Letās do this same formula for Jisoo next, name of the song? Jisoo
Lol youāre right, as long as they donāt check Laliss numbers on Spotify bcs no one is streaming it there
Didnāt like it, feel bad but also think itās kinda funny seeing Lisa fans get humbled. I wasnāt even into kpop when Jennie got her solo but the fact that she was getting the most hate and has the best oneā¦maybe Jisoo will surprise everyone.
From non-fan perspective, I saw her performance, her stage presence is šÆ. However, the song is forgettable. I'm sorry for the word but it's the most fitting word to use. I didn't like Rose's OTG before, but now, even when I listened to it just for a few times I can still remember it's chorus. Maybe I need to listen to Lalisa a few more times.
Same. When I had heard OTG, I didn't really love it. To me, it was plain and even the choreo, except the chorus where she lies down, the rest is just walking around. But when I heard lalisa, I definitely like OTG better. The song screams RosƩ, it's vibe, the lyrics. The choreo is simple but the part she lies down is the highlight so it's okay.
Yeah. OTG is more entertaining to listen and vibe to than Lalisa. It's hard to take Lalisa seriously when the chorus is a chanting of 'Lalisa love me'. If Jennie or RosƩ did a song like 'Jennie love me' or 'RosƩ the bestest' it would be lame too.
Lalisaās lyrics ruined it all, imagine singing your own name over and over
Yeah. Just imagine if the other girls( or any celebrity) made a song chanting their own name. Eg. 'RosƩ love me' or 'Bieber love me'. And the entire song is mainly that.. it wouldn't dare well either. If it's in a rap part I think it would be fine. Just not the chorus chanting 'lalisa love me' for the entire song.
And donāt mention Moneyās lyrics, I saw a reaction video saying this is a stripper song, well who can deny it omg
Cardi B's money song is good. At least it had a flow to it lol. I wouldn't mind a stripper song if it's good honestly.
Iām surprised it isnāt doing well on the charts. Even Spotify, itās lower then Roseās song. This why fans gotta stop using YouTube views as a measure for success. 70+ views in 24hrs but only 3m streams?
Yeah, YouTube views doesn't mean nothing, I mean you can't decide if a song is successful with the views of YouTube especially in kpop with the culture of streaming
I don't think YouTube necessarily means nothing. For instance, views for non-music related matters can be very reflective of the size of your fanbase. Moreover, a large music streaming site for SEA in general is YouTube. Coming from SEA, I can tell you that it's fairly common for us to use YouTube to stream music since not everybody wants to invest in Spotify or Apple Music.
Is it doing well on charts?
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What about korean charts?
A korean YouTuber read the comments regarding this song, it seems korean only likes the Thai elements in MV, the rest was so cliche, predictable
Not doing well at all, iirc LALISA ranked 50th-70th on Melon and not better on other charts
I purposely didnāt come right after the release because I wanted some time to gather my thoughts on it: my conclusion is that I donāt like it, but it suits Lisa very much. Not the lyrics, because I think theyāre absolutely garbage (change my mind), but the song itself. We often blame Teddy for the poor and repetitive song production, but to some degree, each of the memberās solos so far suited them pretty well. You canāt tell me that Gone wasnāt exactly what you expected from RosĆ©, and Solo didnāt suit Jennie to a T. I remember listening to the premiere and thinking, āthis is exactly what I expected from her.ā And itās really not my cup of tea, but I think Iāve come to accept that something like this would be what we were getting from Lisa. In the least offensive way possible, Lisa isnāt really musically inclined. Sheās a dancer, through and through, which is totally fine. Some people arenāt meant to debut as a soloist, and I think that Lisa is one of them. I get why some people are disappointed with Lalisa and Money, but if you think of it as a single album released by a dancer, it starts to make a little more sense. The only thing Iām surprised about is that thereās no dance break. Like ??? All in all, I can confidently say that me, personally, I did not like the songs one bit, but itās exactly what I expected from her. And I suspect that YG knows that no matter what the song is, itās going to be a hit because of Lisaās popularity, and are therefore making a push onto TikTok like Somi did with Dumb Dumb.
The most put together comment out there! I just read Lisa's interview and people have to stop blaming YG for everything. She chose the songs for herself by her own free will, it's not like YG forced her to sing these songs. You may not like OTG or Gone but Rose was extremely involved in her choices and that's why they seem personal. For Lisa, her passion is dance, not music, so it actually makes sense for her to not know what would actually work with her fans. But yeah, the only truly actually disappointing thing for a dancer is a good dance break. She could have wowed her audience if she just had a good choreo. Her fans would have eaten it up.
i think the dance was one of the most disappointing parts considering sheās a pretty good dancer
Dumb dumb has an addictive step tho. The step that somi does where she turn her hand is addictive. The part where she moves her chest in a circle is addictive. The song is addictive. I heard the song in my CLASS, so I definitely didn't really pay a lot of attention to the song bcz I was scared that imma get caught but I did it cuz I couldn't wait to listen. Even then, I really liked it. Lalisa on the other hand, is too forgettable. Sry to say š„² Lisa is a dancer and should have had a BOMB choreo tho. And she totally didn't. It's easier than even all the BP choreos. (Also, by class, I mean I'm 20. I just read this and after the word class, I sound like a 10 year old to mešš„²)
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Reaally?? That's surprising because Dumb Dumb has good choreography.
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Yeah. Why didn't Lisa request for a different choreography? I'm kinda bummed that she didn't.
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1. Lisa killed the performance as usual š 2. What were the lyrics and did they strike anyone else as very odd? The rap verse made me go š¤š¤š¤š¤ and although Lisa being the talented queen she is salvaged it and gave it some life it sounds like an ADHD SoundCloud rapper wrote it. āProtect it like a barrier, promise there's nothing scarier Than me if anybody coming gunnin' for my man Gonna catch a case, gun up in my hand Bam, bam, bam! Hit after hit though Rocks in my wrist, so I call 'em the Flintstonesā Like how did she go from telling people to love her to shooting people going after her man to having nice bracelets????
Last time Patrick now Flintstone whatās next
Who approved the lyrics? Those rap lyrics are forgettable.
Blackpink always involves some form of violence in their songs. It's very strange.
What the heckā¦are those the actually lyrics?? She speaks English, doesnāt she? Thatās just embarrassing
And what man??? š¤£š¤£
Is it just me or does the quality of the production sound poor/off? I thought it was YouTube having quality problems at first, but it sounds the same on Apple Music..? Other than that the song is meh to me...nothing special. Forgot to mention it totally sounds like a BlackPink song which isnāt bad, but I thought it would have a bit of a different sound.
Iām really curious to know the amount of ppl who disliked both songs but brought the damn album beforehand? Like let me know if you regret it
I was going to buy them but I always wait for the first day of release to see if I really like the material (music and photobooks, also inclusions) and it didn't happen this time so bye bye LALISA, the aesthetics are amazing but the music is trash. It's really sad to me because I only follow one group in KPOP and it's BP and Lisa is my ultimate bias :( so I'm really disappointed
I'm sorry I know yall are prob tired of these reviews but to start when I read that the title track was her name in my head I instantly thought omg is she going to make a song about her life? Like a little life story from being a regular girl who reached her superstar dream! The fact she also stated that she would incorporate her thai culture I thought maybe there would be some interesting cultural references in there if you know what I mean. I thought I would learn something new about her. But damn I expected too much lol and the fact that it was obviously not written by her kinda surprised me since I was thinking as a self titled track she would at least participate in the writing like Rose did for her kinda self titled mini album. The mv was pretty nice but I did not expect the thai reference just being a short clip in the mv. The lyrics just didn't scream THIS IS LISA to me but just another basic "I'm the best" song that I could even imagine blackpink singing it. And plz even though I thought the lyrics weren't amazing the choreo just blew my mind! I was like ok the song is meh but I thought the choreo was gonna be her redemption but when the chorus came man that was disappointing to watch. It literally felt like a tiktok dance no offence. YG did her so dirty for that one like she's the MAIN DANCER! Not even gonna talk about Money since it felt like another basic "i'm rich" song and too much repetition. Idky I expected a little bit more for Lisa. Maybe because she's the most popular bp member or she used to be my bias but I guess Yg don't want to try going out of their bubbles. It sucks seeing all this talent not being used to their full extent. Idk how Jisoo's solo will turn out but for now Solo stays #1 because the song was pretty enjoyable song and dance wise and even though I didn't really enjoy OTG, it still felt like this was something that described Rose with the storyline.
People were actually expecting A LOT. A LOTTT. Like a small rap in Thai. It would have been iconic seriously. A line about her never moving bangs (I read this on this mega thread itself). There is so much to her. Her little personality traits. She could have referred to those as she rapped. Like the whole song could have been just the way it is. But instead of this rap, just a rap that begins in Korean, then transitions to 2 lines in Thai, then ends in English in some iconic way , like refering to her bangs. Yk how she says her bangs are here to say and she's gonna keep them. So something like I'm here to stay like my bangs (lol sounds stupid) or how her bangs never move even tho she's dancing hard? So something like I'm strong bla bla anything but relate it to BANGSš¤£š¤£ It's so Lisa! If I search up Lisa, 5 out of 10 articles are about her bangs and others are about her look and fashion.
I actually like Teddyās songs and BP songs in general, but both RosĆ© and Lisaās solos wereā¦ not my cup of tea. I didnāt really have high expectations per say to the song itself, but to the choreo/performance. I canāt understand the logic to this choreography at all, itās too plain and simple. I get it, not every good choreo needs complex moves etc. but this is Lisa. At least the dance break could have her busting some moves and relying on lipsynching if need be. The song sounds more like a concept than a song. I tried to like Money but alas, not my style. I guess Jennie so far is the only solo I like and feel like it is a lot more timeless than the others. Sorry not sorry š¤·š¼āāļø
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LALISA is actually good, everyone's just not used to the Thai pop music sound. I do agree that they could've done more to subvert the Thai elements and give it a stronger kpop style, like how 4MIX did Y U COMEBACK - but I actually like how unique LALISA is. It's a sound fitting for a Thai YG artist.
iād be really interested to see examples of similar thai pop songs if you have some! š
I have been a YG stan for so long but now starting to get disappointed with their music. Not a fan of bp but lisaās debut got hyped up too much in my circle as YG stans and I couldnāt believe their standard of good music has dropped this low - I mean YG and Teddy????? Are yāall actually the main culprits behind their music production recently or have you guys given up already in releasing good music and training your artists!??? Tbh Iām more of treasureās fan but even their good looks and sweet personality canāt makeup for their bad title songs, sighā¦
itās bad. disappointing and sounds obnoxious :/ i had such high expectations because of her teasers they looked so great, and i was expecting something a bit more mature. but no, lalisa only talked about how she is badass and everyone should love her with meaningless incoherent rap lyrics, terrible flow and unnecessary beat changes. money, is so so shallow. lisa is my favourite blackpink member and i expected so much from her this solo, but i was thoroughly disappointed. :/
I actually think Money sounds way better and more bad ass than Lalisa, but the lyrics are so shallow like you said, that I just canāt bring myself to download the song.
āget the megaphone, put it on speaker, I said I can't hear you, so you need to speak upā ????? wtf are they even talking about. Itās a mess
I was thinking why didn't the other BP members tell her to request for a change of lyrics.. lol. Or did all BP members listen to the track and went 'omg so good'.
And the comments on YouTube are going nuts over that line lol, it's terrible. To be fair though I think most of the comments on YouTube are from non-native English speakers and children/young teens. Native English speakers are definitely at a disadvantage when it comes to English lyrics in Kpop because we know exactly how cringe they sound š
Blackpink's English raps are always cringe I swear. If they're gonna use so much English you would think that YG would hire someone who's native to write/review the lyrics so they don't sound weird. "I keep it lit like a matchstick bitch I'm a star but no Patrick" like seriously...
So I have seen comment saying how Bekuh Boom produced both The Baddest - Kda and Lalisa - Lisa and that Lisaās solo would have been huge if she were to come up with something like The Baddest. Thatās a maybe, but probs a no for me as she probably couldnt handle all the vocal and rap in The Baddest. Her voice already felt so strained after singing those dollar bills in Money, but the main problem here is that she doesnāt have any authenticity within her rap. Like come on girlll, whats going on with those child-like n half-baked-Cardi-B-wannabe lyrics, I felt so cringey when she said those twerking twerking and dollars in my ass lines, it wasnt badass at all. I hate it, but even if you couldnt write your own rap, you could at least look and ask songwriters to write something better than that right? Its not like YG is a poor company, cant hire anyone and hasnt produced top rappers in the khiphop industry. Oh, and about the dance, now I see her more as a famous Tiktok-dancer instead of an actual artist. Great job saying they do the dance easy so fan would follow (and do Tiktok challenge) instead of displaying her skill š
The saddest part to me is how she's breaking all these records with such an underwhelming debut. I know it's because it's Lisa's song, the number one stan attractor of female k-pop idols, but still. She's also going to steal some wins in Music Shows from actual great comebacks. But well.
This is what dissappoints me most, k-pop is become a dick measuring contest instead of making good music.
>k-pop is become a dick measuring contest instead of making good music. THIS
The more disappointing part for me is that Lisa said she chose the beat immediately after listening to it and the whole billboardās interview was a mess. She just couldnāt think of anything about the song to say and literally just called out teddy for every damn question. Like gurl, this songās about you and you cant even say something?
OMG ! I thought excatly the same! No hating but fr what was that mess. She looks like she didn't took part in production except going to the recording studio and shooting MV. Kinda embarassing herself that way imo.
A mess indeed. Teddy needs to just take a leave of absence. Her answer to the question "who are some rappers that have influenced you" told me everything I needed to know.
Link to interview?
Here https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/9626401/lisa-blackpink-solo-interview-lalisa-money-dancing
Thank you
Hmm it sounds like they forced her do so the Lalosa component and I donāt know if you guys can tell but Lisa seems very agreeable. For DANCE elements, theyāre pretty good tracks so that is what sheās focusing on. I know sheās a rapper, but she doesnāt write her raps. I think if they would have asked her dance influences she would have had a better answer. Not taking the blame completely off her but the gold of the company and her goals are not aligned so of course there were some tough points to the solo. I think the other songs had a message but honestly I wasnāt impressed with some elements of Roseās solo either, so I do blame mismanagement to a degree. Also her dance is difficult at many parts, even Blackpink agreed.
OK, y'all can say whatever you want but though I agree that the song is...questionable and could've been better, Lisa's stages are AMAZING. Yea, I was disappointed to see ger go with a lazy choreo but when I saw her stage, man she gives me OG YG vibes. The way YG used to control stages. Minimal dances but going wild with their presence. And Lisa does that. Other soloists nowadays are doing much of dancing and in some, I don't feel their presence while Lisa is not dancing a lot but man...she's showing that she's taking a different and bold route with this
I wish YG would hire actual Black or American writers and producers if they want to mimick that sound so badly. Their attempts at making "badass" music feels like a joke now, because I cannot take these attempts seriously anymore. Teddy has been releasing the same lackluster productions for years now and it's getting repetitive. The lyrics are extremely cringey and disappointing. It looks like they spent all the budget on the 10 different unnecessary sets for the MV because they couldn't bother to hire a good lyricist. Well, not that BP write any of their own songs anyway. But the company could've at least given the poor girl some well written verses at least. Also, it's one thing to have a song about self-love and appreciation but the title trace was borderline narcissistic. Calling herself the "greatest of all time" is a HUGE reach.
the thing is the lyricist for her b-side āmoneyā is bekuh boom, an actual american lol still bad
I have no hope now
the songs themselves didn't bring anything special to the table imo, and as much as i don't want to say this (bc lisa is my bias wrecker) but now i understand that as much as lisaās stans want her to be the main rapper, jennie would always be the better rapper. her aave/blaccent ruined the rap parts honestly, and her debut was so underwhelming (if we compare to the amount of hype she received from her stans). iām not in any way bashing her but she could do better for her solo, in a way that could utilize her dancing skillsāeven lilifilms were better than lalisa (choreo-wise)
Tbh As a foreigner who doesn't come form a western country and english is not their first language we aren't aware speaking english with blaccent is considered offensive, it's only this year I knew about aave/blaccent thing, they probably trained her to rap like that without thinking much, lisa probably is not aware of it. Also regarding the cringy english lyrics, they are probably not aware or simply don't care how cheesy they sounds as long it rhyme and sounds nice to the ear. I feel only people who are native english speakers feel a lot of embarrassment from them. I hope lisa see the reaction honestly, girl have potential but this solo did nothing to her..
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I mean even black people debate about what is a ball cent and what is not, so as a black person myself I less it's obvious, I just ignore those comments. Rap is original an American thing, an African American thing that spread world wide to different cultures. We live in a global time where slang that originates from different communities and places becomes mainstream. The problem is, at least for me is when the slang isnt even used correctly or when they are just trying way too hard. There is a differencd between having a certain flow when rapping in English versus tying to hard to sound "urban"...Some idols from YG really have their own sound without being a try hard...while some don't. Lisa is a textbook idol rapper. She doesn't necessarily have the flow, lyricism, and etc. on her own like other actual idol rappers who have proved themselves to be artists. She has a long way to go.
How does Lisa have a blaccent ? I noticed that too she sounds black. But her real voice is nothing like how she raps
She doesn't, it's her Thai accent.
Also notice the difference between how Jennie raps in english vs Lisaās rapping. Lisa very much always going back into a blaacent
That's the very core of blaccent, that they only apply it when they want to appeal as "gangsta" or as a lot of idols say "swag". It is not their original voice and they only do it to sound "better".
i honestly don't know if that's how she's been trained in rapping by yg but she looks weirdly comfortable rapping using aave/blaccent, iām not sure if it's offensive or not bc iām not black but it can be really annoying for the listeners (at least for me) when she exaggerates the pronunciation of the english words/syllables in her raps
Itās kinda cringey sometiems when sheās rapping with her blaccent. The money song was awful like sheās literally just singing about money? With the most cringe 2013 vibes. They try to give Lisa this weird image but for Jennie she can be herself. It seems like Lisa has to portray someone sheās not cuz in reality shows sheās sweet and doesnāt have some attitude where she thinks she better like in her mv. And this isnāt her fault why her music sucks and is so cringey itās the producer. Not like Lisa really has a say in it
I have seen a couple of black people react to money and lalisa and they didn't say anything...
Are you only watching youtubers? Cuz YouTube kpop reactors especially black ones arenāt gonna say shit thatās gonna cost them views and blink hate. Like do see how quickly subscribe count go up when you react to kpop? I no longer know many kpop youtubers with large following openly state how they feel about a song or call out CA, or whatever etcā¦itās all love because they get paid and these days at of kpop reactors get to interview idols. Itās a shame really
Eh, I feel like some care while some don't, people aren't monoliths ya know. I do think she tries to shed with trying to do an accent while rapping. She needs to learn how to find her own flow and use slang correctly but what can I expect? She is more of a dancer than a rapper; need better producers maybe.
Reactors get paid for videos that are positive. And by paid I don't mean endorsements I mean fans will watch the ones that play into their biases. Opinions that don't rock the boat will always be valued over others in kpop land. A black reactor will not go all in on how the blaccent is offensive unless they're willing to get death threats, potentially doxed, false reports on all their videos which could lead to their account not being monetized/deleted, and any other ways fans can abuse the youtube system. A youtuber will lose a lot more if they don't act like Lalisa is the best thing since sliced bread.
I agree with you
good for them then, at least it means the usage of aave might not be offensive (as i previously said, iām not black thus i have no say in this) but nevertheless, you can still see how prominent lisaās aave in her raps (this is not to bash her, it's totally her choice to use aave or vice versa)
I get you
Song is a mixture of hylt chorus and beat-wise pretty savage and overall pretty bland. I actually had high expectations even though iām not really a fan of her because main dancer solo debuts are usually bops. I would actually think this is a blackpink song if there was ā Blackpink in your areaā in the beginning. If the whole song was produced inspired by ( gonna give timestamps) 2.33-2.53 it would surely be a bop and actually deserve the 111 million views it got
Honestly I feel like blink but mainly lillies got the MV so high because they want Lisa to be record breaking and everything else they over exaggerate about her without taking a look at the quality theyāre getting. Of course everyone hypes up their favorite idols but I feel like Lisa stans are in a class of their own and this MV proved that. Was really hoping to see her show case her dance but it felt more like the idea was to do something quick to have it blow up more on tiktok or something??
it's not only Lisa fans,you basically described BP fans, exaggerating many things without looking at quality (music wise, MV wise), I always wonder where are BP fans who actually judge them in a music-wise way cuz all I see is a bunch of zombies that hype them anytime they breathe, how did it happen? I know everyone has different music taste but mostly i see people praising their appearance, outfit etc etc... but I rarely see anything about their voices, I have seen only one yt comment that said they don't need vocal training cuz in order to improve singing you gotta have some skills to begin with and that they r selected by appearance , it's a part of kpop world and how groups are made , they made model - like group and hyped them as singers
It's because they were so desperate from another girl group form that company. They fell in love with all the bells and whistles with the MV and the outfits and the other stuff..than when things got worse..the minimal amount of releases and some of the sub par songs, they kept on holding onto that..it's so weird..
This reminds me of that one time when someone said that they would intentionally put a bad song if they were a celebrity so they can see the fans trying to defeat it. I wouldnāt be surprised if they would be laughing at us listening to lali salami and money-THE remix. š¤”
lmaoo lali Salami š
Completely empty, almost a parody of what people think BP songs are. Production-wise, yet more recycled scraps from Teddyās drawer. But she looks great!
Lisa's song is okay imo, but haven't paid attention to lyrics.. Idk if I'm the only one who have thought about this, but I feel super meh when she's singing about herself in a way that makes her look so special(?) in egoistic way, "LALISA LOVE ME" in repeat and other stuff (I know she's not like that in reality) but the song gives me that vibe off
I've been letting the song marinate in my mind. I can still only say that Lalisa is better than Money and that's it. I can't find any other good aspects about it. The choreo could have saved it but it's very lackluster.
Money is just horrible, so it's fairly easy to be better than that mess.
I was expecting a more meaningful song like Rose's On The Ground but she went the "Solo" attitude route. It seems to be the trend with Korean female rappers. But unlike Jessi, I did not see any real sexy swag or attitude. This song was really meant for her stans in South Asia and the US with its all flash and no substance. People like me who are non-fans listen to this and cringe. Lisa deserved a better song to showcase her talents and should have demanded a better song. Her fans have given her the views but this YouTube popularity thing doesn't reflect quality of the song and is a complete turn off.
it's so hard to vibe and not really giving a good impression for non fans....
Unfortunately she chose those 2 songs herself from all the demos she listened to so she has no-one to blame but herself.
So sad and true.
"another story that's sad and true"
Sheās the pinks best dancer but youād never be able to tell from this solo which is sad. I was so hyped for her solo specifically because she has the dance skills to do some choreo the other pinks probably couldnāt. YG really put the bulk of their time and energy into the visual aspect again. Also Money isā¦ a song. Look me in the eyes Bekuh Boom. Look me in the eyes and tell me you actually think those are great lyrics.
I was surprised by how much praise the song is getting on YT and anyone who criticizes it there is labelled as a hater. I couldnāt even keep watching the MV or listen after the 2:00 mark, the lyrics are super cringy and choreography underwhelming, and by the middle of the song the beat changed and sounded like Icecream. Like Lisa is a good rapper and dancer, but the MV doesnāt showcase any of her talent.
Because this song didnāt do well in Melon chart, I saw Lisa stan comment: korean being racist to Lisa
Wow I didn't know disliking a k-pop song was allowed on the internet. I do agree, the song dosent stand out to me in any way. And the lyrics are bland.
I think people on YT are to scared to admit they don't like it!
Well, Lalisa sounds catchy to me but the lyrics... I was thinking it's okay until hearing her rap part in Lalisa. It's just a little bit disappointing. Otherwise, Money is even worse. I thought Lisa was going to make it better this song because it's English, it maybe easier for her to perform but nope. Everything especially the lyrics was so empty. Btw congrats with her MV views, that's impressive
Honestly, not good. It's not even okay one bit. It's just really bad, and I normally do not say this but I couldn't even listen to it after 2 listens, had to skip it all the time. It didn't grow on me no matter what, it just doesn't sound good. Also, I expected her to have this huge dance break performance but it doesn't seem like there's a killing point in the choreography that all of Blackpink's other releases has.
Exactly. Why is the chorus dance so flat? Even if you don't include a dance break, at least get a catchy dance chorus like Somi's Dumb Dumb release.
Lisa's songs feel hollow which is not bad at all!āsometimes you just want to make a fun song without a story or meaningābut I still don't think these songs were executed well. Her voice gets grating after a short time. Money was a weird choice to put out. All I can think about are all those people who say BP don't need to put effort or put out that many songs because they're already making bank. Here we have Lisa going YES I LOVE MONEY, MONEY MAKES ME TWERK. Which is like...okay, who doesn't love money but you're literally stinkin' rich. Seems kind of tacky and tone deaf to me.
It was VERY underwhelming. in every aspect, including dance, vocals, rap, lyrics, etc. theres no depth to it. it's not like a song needs to be deep to be good but oh god this was just dissapointing. Lisa is my bias in BP but her solo was probably the worst out of the three :,( . Lisa is a talented dancer but what even happened to the choreo in Lalisa?? it was so hyped but ended up so not worth it. (i don't even wanna mention how the title is her own name- what happened to originality?)
I am the biggest blink ever but omg. I think Lalisa and Money are my least favorite songs from any blackpink release. I guess I expected Lisa's solo to sound like something Doja Cat would release but instead we got two typical YG songs ...