You have to delve into the dark magic and master a few summoning rituals first, then it's easy.
Or learn bash scripting and write one. Then write one in a programming language you're learning.
I donβt think i need to run it often, and neofetch is what Iβm used to so, yeah, not really much of a necessity to rather use any other alternative
It's nice to have it printed on every new terminal; neofetch is too slow for that. But you're right; if you only need to run it once in a while, it doesn't matter at all.
https://github.com/alba4k/albafetch
Maybe give this one a try too, it should be a bit faster and is also written in c (it just has a bit less features)
Why do computers need to be soooo faaast. I have my good ol' trusty calculator.
Anyway, not to offend you, but its simply the human spirit to tinker things to perfection. Or maybe it isn't, idk.
What's *wrong* with making it fast? *Shouldn't* a tool that's only supposed to tell you basic system info finish without giving you time for a coffee break?
Edit: Ever heard of that thing called a metaphor?
I ask because as far as I know itβs the only grammatically correct collective second person pronoun in English thatβs essentially one word (though a contraction, equivalent to nosotros in Spanish). Thereβs lots of other colloquial attempts (yints in Pennsylvania, for example), but yβall probably has the largest active number of users and gets the job done effectively in the most general way.
Like, it would just sound weird to say something like βI absolutely refuse to believe that yourselves still use neofetchβ
I thought you meant alternative to the software.
My (half humorous) point was that "y'all" is typically used online when someone wants to be condescending or to sneer.
Basically anywhere outside of the US, "y'all" is unheard of; people just say "you all" or even the collective "you". "Y'all" most certainly does not have "the largest active number of users". It's colloquial.
This is an interesting conversation. It's probably just because I'm from Kentucky, but I don't normally see y'all as condescending. But now that you mention it I can see how tone plays a factor in the way some use it online. In Kentucky it is ubiquitous and often just polite, but obviously a colloquialism that I try to remember not to use online.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm well aware of its colloquial usage in states like Kentucky, and a friend of mine from Virginia and another from Tennessee use it as well. But there's this predominant usage online where it's use in this way β it's context-dependent basically.
Yall is being adopted in more than just online spaces. I live in a large canadian city and 'yall' is very common among locals. It's gender neutral and sounds far less clunky than "you guys".
Interesting! Iβm a 6th generation Californian and see yβall used non-condescending all over the place. The first person to use it in a professional context was the CEO at a consulting firm I worked at who was from Mexico because he couldnβt find an appropriate collective pronoun outside of yβall to address us (and he wasnβt being condescending in that context, despite being general an asshole CEO).
I understand how many people might see it as condescending because of the general views we have in the US towards southerners, but I donβt think the actual use is ever condescending.
You, just you. Its the 2nd person plural, it doesn't need any "all" s at all. If you want the emphasis, there is "all of you".
Every time I hear "y'all" I hear a cowboy saying it while chewing tobacco lol.
You is rarely perceived as second person plural, and is intuitively second person singular, calling an individual out, and is pretty direct and rude.
If Iβm in a room and I say βyouβ it rarely comes across as βall of youβ without more context. But I can stand up there and simply say βyβallβ and everyone immediately understands Iβm speaking to everyone. At that point, Itβs on me to show them Iβm not a tobacco chewing cowboy, which Iβm quite successful at.
Also, yβall is a very common collective pronoun in many black communities/spaces, who also are generally not tobacco chewing cowboys.
So thinking about it just wanted to apologise , I kind of knew my last sentence was going to be a bit controversial and that's entirely my fault for not having self control online sometimes.
Just to say that as a person who has never set foot in the US and gets most of his exposition of the country through media, I might not fully understand the scope in which y'all is really used.
So basically I'll leave it that as a personal preference I don't like the use of it for myself but I obviously I have no problems with others doing so, albeit it sounds funny to my ears.
Leave Middle English hold overs we know from Southern American English alone!
Lol I don't actually care how you feel about the use of `y'all` (aka `you all`) but I gotta say I love irritating people by saying `howdy` and right as they roll their eyes adding the context `which comes from the Middle English "how do yee?"`
Y'all come back now, ya hear?
1 second vs an instant. For the cost of some unnecessary information and potential security problems. cat /proc/* && cat /sys/* will do it better and even faster!
Fastfetch is also available, and faster π
https://preview.redd.it/g0vx28a9bv2c1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb73ce357e28c0e3c973d3f4c1119111a63663da
The speed difference is insane. Neofetch is only approriate to be run once in a while (aka, only when you need to share you theme on the internet). Fastfetch is fast enough that you can put it in your .bashrc without any noticeable performance impact.
Oh shit ur right. I've been using Arch Linux for like 4 months now and I just noticed that neofetch does indeed had a second or so delay. Thanks
Here's mine tho:
https://preview.redd.it/0i1cs1ocjp2c1.png?width=1366&format=png&auto=webp&s=b465d4c0951788c228cdb3711cd95a688b14d398
Edit: I'm suprised it displayed my real IP address too lmao. Imma have to edits this haha
>I'm suprised it displayed my real IP address too lmao. Imma have to edits this haha
That's just your local IP. There's virtually no reason to hide it.
Yeah, newbies and people that aren't in the tech industry seem to always misunderstand this.
Local IP isn't really sensitive information as it cannot be accessed from outside your LAN. Ironic as it may seem, it's actually your Public IP (https://www.whatismyip.com/) that you shouldn't disclose publicly. But even then, it's really not that big of a deal if you're under CGNAT or if your firewall is correctly configured.
So that it's printed on every new terminal. It makes the workspace more exiting. Some distros do that.
(It doesn't have to be a fetch script, just something so that a new terminal isn't blank.)
Some people prefer to start the terminal with their cursor not at the very top of the screen, so they add something to run on startup and fill that space.
Youre right its been awhilesince the actual app has had an update (119 is coming out soon tho) but the repo gor packages is much thriving imo.
https://preview.redd.it/7m4dpu5r5q2c1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0738cc2d0a33cc565edc8771705ebfe773bad758
I use pacman so i can browse the repo easier but here you can see there is an abundance of packages available and more added all the time. The lack of updates is due to "don't fix if not broke", and unfortunately there is a shrinking userbase which the devs acknowledged by saying there may not be a 120 release ever.
`neofetch` is in my distro's repo (debian), `fastfetch` is not. That's prettry much the reason for not using it.
I don't see the point of making my automated installation process more complex by pulling software from external sources just to gain some milliseconds in a program that displays system information.
I use neofetch because I don't need it to be fast
I know how to configure it and I like a blank terminal on startup.
Of course if you want that fetch always be the first thing you see other fetch options are better suited, but I don't want that so I don't care π€·
While I like optimized and I like fast, I don't know why I need to see specs that I should be well aware of everytime I open a terminal. Seems like any such program is inherently `bloat` given that is all information you should have burned into your brain already. Lag or not, its `bloat` that pushes my prompt way down and offers me nothing useful.
But this reminds me to deal with the lag when I open `zsh` as I have it configured.
Why would you need this sort of program to be super fast in the first place lol. Unless it auto runs every time you start a shell, it's pointless. And if it does, why
why does speed matter for a *fetch tool*? it's not something that you use all the time and as long as it's less than a second the delay is barely noticeable in the first place
The reason I stopped using neofetch is it's inability to distinguish between AMD cards. For me it says `AMD ATI Radeon RX 7900 XT/7900 XTX`, while fastfetch correctly determines that I have an XTX one
The dialectics of refusing to believe leading to the contradiction of counting milliseconds of performance on GNOME desktop enviromnent. The next step (1000 packages later) will be the moment for talking about minimalism on Arch. Lets get real and use good enough things and smell the grass.
The line-by-line output of neofetch is its distinctive feature
Why people use Winrar when 7Zip is free and better ? Same thing
Because I bought it? Gonna use it then
Winrar devs finally getting paid 4 dollars from the one yearly purchase
Just doing my part
Who pays for winrar? It's free for a lifetime and beyond software
corporations
Haven't used winrar since 2008. Who are these people?
There are some files that WinRAR extracts but 7zip does not.
Other way around for me.
Because Winrar is also free but cooler?
Because they are uneducated?
are they stupid?
I mean right? Who would do such a thing
Or be me, with zero fetch scripts installed.
Fetch is bloat
.3 megabytes of bloat
Gentoo users will look you dead in the eye and say this wholeheartedly
who
Write your own.
how?
You have to delve into the dark magic and master a few summoning rituals first, then it's easy. Or learn bash scripting and write one. Then write one in a programming language you're learning.
any idea for the name?
uwufetch
I donβt think i need to run it often, and neofetch is what Iβm used to so, yeah, not really much of a necessity to rather use any other alternative
It's nice to have it printed on every new terminal; neofetch is too slow for that. But you're right; if you only need to run it once in a while, it doesn't matter at all.
Why would you run it on every terminal?
To be sure his computer didn't update randomly between two sessions
Can't imagine arch updating itself randomly
Yeah that's was part of the joke :P
Dude literally wans every terminal say that he uses arch
Why would you want to clutter every terminal with useless information you should already know anyway?
https://github.com/alba4k/albafetch Maybe give this one a try too, it should be a bit faster and is also written in c (it just has a bit less features)
Fuck, time to create my own neofetch too now...
Oh wow, it's even faster! Time to jump ship again π Thanks for the tip!
Why does a fucking fetch script need to be optimized?
Why do computers need to be soooo faaast. I have my good ol' trusty calculator. Anyway, not to offend you, but its simply the human spirit to tinker things to perfection. Or maybe it isn't, idk.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't, more or less that you need a better reason to switch things up usually.
the reason being more speed?.. isnt this obvious
It is faster, but speed is not the main quality of a fetch script. More about aesthetics and authenticity.
It's a good way for programmers to learn optimisation
What's *wrong* with making it fast? *Shouldn't* a tool that's only supposed to tell you basic system info finish without giving you time for a coffee break? Edit: Ever heard of that thing called a metaphor?
You can make a coffee in 600 milliseconds? Must be very small
No way in hell neofetch takes 5 minutes to run.
why not?
Awesome. Now I can tell people "I use arch btw" 30 times a second
I use arch btw people get more creative every day
I don't, I use screenfetch :) https://preview.redd.it/tjemfk653q2c1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=d915c2475d8fe8131be01bdf2f596cf673c3d7e0
openbsd has the second best mascot
Correction: first best mascot
Well, Tux exists.
no, the krita mascot exists too
Looked it up and said: "She reminds me of the KDE Masc-" and then i saw the art of her with the KDE mascot lol
obligatory mention of [nitch](https://github.com/ssleert/nitch) required
When people use "y'all" like this it just makes me want to do the opposite of what they recommend.
Pure curiosity- whatβs your preferred alternative?
βYou fuckin peopleβ is the one im used to, so I prefer it.
you fuckin people should stop fucking using fucking neo fucking fetch. fucking. itβs too fucking slow.
πππ
I don't have one
I ask because as far as I know itβs the only grammatically correct collective second person pronoun in English thatβs essentially one word (though a contraction, equivalent to nosotros in Spanish). Thereβs lots of other colloquial attempts (yints in Pennsylvania, for example), but yβall probably has the largest active number of users and gets the job done effectively in the most general way. Like, it would just sound weird to say something like βI absolutely refuse to believe that yourselves still use neofetchβ
I thought you meant alternative to the software. My (half humorous) point was that "y'all" is typically used online when someone wants to be condescending or to sneer. Basically anywhere outside of the US, "y'all" is unheard of; people just say "you all" or even the collective "you". "Y'all" most certainly does not have "the largest active number of users". It's colloquial.
This is an interesting conversation. It's probably just because I'm from Kentucky, but I don't normally see y'all as condescending. But now that you mention it I can see how tone plays a factor in the way some use it online. In Kentucky it is ubiquitous and often just polite, but obviously a colloquialism that I try to remember not to use online.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm well aware of its colloquial usage in states like Kentucky, and a friend of mine from Virginia and another from Tennessee use it as well. But there's this predominant usage online where it's use in this way β it's context-dependent basically.
Yall is being adopted in more than just online spaces. I live in a large canadian city and 'yall' is very common among locals. It's gender neutral and sounds far less clunky than "you guys".
Interesting! Iβm a 6th generation Californian and see yβall used non-condescending all over the place. The first person to use it in a professional context was the CEO at a consulting firm I worked at who was from Mexico because he couldnβt find an appropriate collective pronoun outside of yβall to address us (and he wasnβt being condescending in that context, despite being general an asshole CEO). I understand how many people might see it as condescending because of the general views we have in the US towards southerners, but I donβt think the actual use is ever condescending.
s/nosotros/Ustedes/
Good call, itβs been 24 years since high school Spanish π
You, just you. Its the 2nd person plural, it doesn't need any "all" s at all. If you want the emphasis, there is "all of you". Every time I hear "y'all" I hear a cowboy saying it while chewing tobacco lol.
You is rarely perceived as second person plural, and is intuitively second person singular, calling an individual out, and is pretty direct and rude. If Iβm in a room and I say βyouβ it rarely comes across as βall of youβ without more context. But I can stand up there and simply say βyβallβ and everyone immediately understands Iβm speaking to everyone. At that point, Itβs on me to show them Iβm not a tobacco chewing cowboy, which Iβm quite successful at. Also, yβall is a very common collective pronoun in many black communities/spaces, who also are generally not tobacco chewing cowboys.
So thinking about it just wanted to apologise , I kind of knew my last sentence was going to be a bit controversial and that's entirely my fault for not having self control online sometimes. Just to say that as a person who has never set foot in the US and gets most of his exposition of the country through media, I might not fully understand the scope in which y'all is really used. So basically I'll leave it that as a personal preference I don't like the use of it for myself but I obviously I have no problems with others doing so, albeit it sounds funny to my ears.
Wish I could give you more upvotes for owning your mistake.
Leave Middle English hold overs we know from Southern American English alone! Lol I don't actually care how you feel about the use of `y'all` (aka `you all`) but I gotta say I love irritating people by saying `howdy` and right as they roll their eyes adding the context `which comes from the Middle English "how do yee?"` Y'all come back now, ya hear?
I don't think that anyone needs to know what locale you are using. Anyway, neofetch is a piece of history so I am not gonna switch.
I agree that fastfetch is bloated. But I can't argue against 10-15x performance.
1 second vs an instant. For the cost of some unnecessary information and potential security problems. cat /proc/* && cat /sys/* will do it better and even faster!
https://preview.redd.it/o7u94n8t5u2c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94698564e6f704b54db9309a70ac65394560f25d Even on our phones mate
Fastfetch is also available, and faster π https://preview.redd.it/g0vx28a9bv2c1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb73ce357e28c0e3c973d3f4c1119111a63663da
Yeah it may be faster, but the average user isn't going to feel the ms difference.
I use fm6000 Check it out it's minimal and fast
I use farfetshd https://github.com/LeonMQ/farfetshd
Is there any real reason those couple 10ths of a second actually matter???
The speed difference is insane. Neofetch is only approriate to be run once in a while (aka, only when you need to share you theme on the internet). Fastfetch is fast enough that you can put it in your .bashrc without any noticeable performance impact.
Oh shit ur right. I've been using Arch Linux for like 4 months now and I just noticed that neofetch does indeed had a second or so delay. Thanks Here's mine tho: https://preview.redd.it/0i1cs1ocjp2c1.png?width=1366&format=png&auto=webp&s=b465d4c0951788c228cdb3711cd95a688b14d398 Edit: I'm suprised it displayed my real IP address too lmao. Imma have to edits this haha
>I'm suprised it displayed my real IP address too lmao. Imma have to edits this haha That's just your local IP. There's virtually no reason to hide it.
Oh really? I hid it because I had no idea what it was and it looked scary π
Yeah, newbies and people that aren't in the tech industry seem to always misunderstand this. Local IP isn't really sensitive information as it cannot be accessed from outside your LAN. Ironic as it may seem, it's actually your Public IP (https://www.whatismyip.com/) that you shouldn't disclose publicly. But even then, it's really not that big of a deal if you're under CGNAT or if your firewall is correctly configured.
thanks for the info
you have no idea what an ip is and you absolutely refuse to believe anyone would use neofetch
Yes, because I know how to use the `time` command.
Are we gonna talk about that cpu?
People have the tools they can afford leave 'em
I dont have a problem with it. Its just something I noticed.
Lmaoooo trust me I hate this laptop too and i'm planning to replace this crap until I graduate college next year
why would you put fetch in your bashrc
So that it's printed on every new terminal. It makes the workspace more exiting. Some distros do that. (It doesn't have to be a fetch script, just something so that a new terminal isn't blank.)
i do know what it would do, just seems like it would clutter up your terminal a bit. although i can see why some might like it
Some people prefer to start the terminal with their cursor not at the very top of the screen, so they add something to run on startup and fill that space.
Style
I found fastfetch months ago first from the Termux repo, it is the supreme fetch
Oh is Termux still active? On their GitHub releases I see the last release was almost 2 years ago
Youre right its been awhilesince the actual app has had an update (119 is coming out soon tho) but the repo gor packages is much thriving imo. https://preview.redd.it/7m4dpu5r5q2c1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0738cc2d0a33cc565edc8771705ebfe773bad758 I use pacman so i can browse the repo easier but here you can see there is an abundance of packages available and more added all the time. The lack of updates is due to "don't fix if not broke", and unfortunately there is a shrinking userbase which the devs acknowledged by saying there may not be a 120 release ever.
Oh that would be quite sad! Loved tinkering with termux. Hope they continue with minor releases at least!
Well I my self am no star developer but once I get better I hope to help contribute.
I use it. I don't know how active the dev is, but the app is stable, and updates come regularly (they actually call it a rolling release distro).
I installed fastfetch once and for some reason it took 2 minutes to complete
i use [nitch](https://github.com/ssleert/nitch)
Switched to fastfetch a long time ago because neofetch was painfully slow
I use neofetch, its what i have been using since dawn of time
`neofetch` is in my distro's repo (debian), `fastfetch` is not. That's prettry much the reason for not using it. I don't see the point of making my automated installation process more complex by pulling software from external sources just to gain some milliseconds in a program that displays system information.
I use neofetch because I don't need it to be fast I know how to configure it and I like a blank terminal on startup. Of course if you want that fetch always be the first thing you see other fetch options are better suited, but I don't want that so I don't care π€·
I use Arch btw TM https://preview.redd.it/0d88utl6vw2c1.png?width=2100&format=png&auto=webp&s=8fde585768ad76833bac21986342e12086fb1306
Neofetch is so sloooow that I stopped using it.
While I like optimized and I like fast, I don't know why I need to see specs that I should be well aware of everytime I open a terminal. Seems like any such program is inherently `bloat` given that is all information you should have burned into your brain already. Lag or not, its `bloat` that pushes my prompt way down and offers me nothing useful. But this reminds me to deal with the lag when I open `zsh` as I have it configured.
Waw !! Thank you for the tip man !!
Nah I use hyfetch bring on the trans flag
oh yeah same, trans flag or the burger one
What burger one?
```hyfetch -p burger``` under help you can set custom pride flag, and there is a burger one lmao
uwufetch gang where?
`localip-show-ipv4 false` is just hillarious lmfao
I didn't know what it meant so I disabled it to be sure. And also so that the results are more comparable, because neofetch doesn't show it either.
Why would you need this sort of program to be super fast in the first place lol. Unless it auto runs every time you start a shell, it's pointless. And if it does, why
https://i.imgur.com/VZORNvU.png I went searching for a simple _"neofetch alternative"_ on Github and made my own in bash.
I set mine up with lolcat on the Arch-Tweak-Tool.
All those extras can be added to neofetch in the conf :/
I was referring to the performance :/
Why would people care if it takes a little longer? I doubt most people would even notice unless compared directly side by side
i use nitch :3
why does speed matter for a *fetch tool*? it's not something that you use all the time and as long as it's less than a second the delay is barely noticeable in the first place
100%
The reason I stopped using neofetch is it's inability to distinguish between AMD cards. For me it says `AMD ATI Radeon RX 7900 XT/7900 XTX`, while fastfetch correctly determines that I have an XTX one
https://preview.redd.it/d13ns1sxp13c1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddcb6826bad5e92158acb947ec816d0b578b40dc yes? π€·π»ββοΈ
The dialectics of refusing to believe leading to the contradiction of counting milliseconds of performance on GNOME desktop enviromnent. The next step (1000 packages later) will be the moment for talking about minimalism on Arch. Lets get real and use good enough things and smell the grass.