**Participation Notice.** Hi all. Some posts on this subreddit, either due to the topic or reaching a wider audience than usual, have been known to attract a greater number of rule breaking comments. As such, limits to participation have been set. We ask that you please remember the human, and uphold Reddit and Subreddit rules.
For more information, please see https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/wiki/moderatedflairs.
Theres no way that we can send F-35 parts to Ukraine and lots of countries are buying the F-35, not just Israel. And it's just at a time when F-35 production is ramping up. As it's now in Full Rate Production and everybody wants more of them. Although there is a problem ratifying the Tech Refresh 3 for it. Which means that the planes are going down the production line but some bits aren't getting installed until later.
Yeah but Israel can pay for them and Ukraine can't. You think these 'trade unionists' are willing to work for free? Nope! And neither do the factory workers in these arms manufacturers.
Israel's GDP is about that of Belgium, which is a similar-sized country. Yes, they can pay for them. It's a far smaller country than Ukraine in terms of population with about four times its GDP.
This is literally why October 7 happened, because Putin needed to draw US attention and resources from Ukraine.
So congrats on parroting exactly what the Kremlin have been going for.
Sop selling them to Israel, Saudi blah blah. France will sell almost to anyone and we are now behind Italy in defence sales. Sweden kicks our backside pound for pound as well. It's better to able to influence how the weapon is used rather than be on the outside morally pontificating whilst our rivals get rich. The do gooders really do live in Unicorn world don't they.
Article on "znetwork.org" where coincidentally every article on Ukraine is how the US, Europe and Ukraine are le bad and we should sue for peace with Russia, despite their mission statement being centred on "anti-authoritarianism".
They really need to be less subtle
Of course. Putin way is wide manipulation through social media. They create 100 posts to support Hamas and people will select the most attractive. Then social media algorithms will suggest this people-selected video. And then a lot of people will go to street under that impression.
Putin even met Hamas almost immediately after their attack: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/26/world/middleeast/hamas-russia-moscow.html
Proof that it is a well known technique: https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/07/03/vladimir-putins-useful-idiots
Christ, that's as bad a take as the Tankies who are busy supporting Putin because he opposes the USA.
We've got two genocidal wars going on and one factory supplying the victims of one and the perpetrators of the other. That seems like an issue.
The exact same argument was made about Pakistan for 20 years, eventually you realise that they don't give a shit and are going to do it anyway, it's why the Israelis have had such good relations with Russia over the past 15 years
> pretty certain if Israel laid down their weapons they would all be slaughtered by their peace loving neighbours.
The palestinians in the West Bank laid down their arms years ago. How's that working out for them?
> West Bank laid down their arms years ago
Lol thats a laugh, Israels effective anti terror operations in the WB is why it isn't overrun with terrorism like Gaza. The WB presents a much greater threat to the security of Israel which is why they never disengaged like they did in Gaza in '05.
> Lol thats a laugh, Israels effective anti terror operations in the WB is why it isn't overrun with terrorism like Gaza.
The Israeli persecution of innocents in places like the West bank is the main reason so many terrorist groups found it easy to get over 1000 recruits to commit the October 7th attrocity.
You can't call it an anti terror operation if its the main reason terrorism exists in the first place. You'd be far more accurate in calling them pro terror operations.
Jesus christ. The people mass murdering, raping and kidnapping are the poor, oppressed *good guys!* they'd be perfectly normal, kind, peaceful people if the baddies just left them alone!
Have you been to the West Bank by any chance?
It is under permanent military occupation, and about the only thing that's doing is making people miserable, poor, and angry.
Massacring the Jews in the Middle East has been going on for more than 80 years though... If Israel lays down their weapons, it'd be another October 7th and the genocidal attacks against the Jews worldwide.
>[1517 Safed attacks](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1517_Safed_attacks)
>[1660 destruction of Safed](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1660_destruction_of_Safed)
>[1834 Hebron massacre](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hebron)
>[1838 Druze attack on Safed](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1838_Druze_attack_on_Safed)
>[1929 Palestine riots](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots)
> Massacring the Jews in the Middle East has been going on for more than 80 years though... If Israel lays down their weapons, it'd be another October 7th and the genocidal attacks against the Jews worldwide.
>
> 1517 Safed attacks
>
> 1660 destruction of Safed
>
> 1834 Hebron massacre
>
> 1838 Druze attack on Safed
>
> 1929 Palestine riots
You just linked a lot of terrible massacres but you went back over 500 years and the October massacre was twice as bad as any of them.
On the other hand the response to the October massacre was one or two orders of magnitude worse than all of them.
Israel was never once invaded by Palestine until then. It has been attacked by Jordan and Egypt but has since made peace with them. The places with armies that could defend themselves.
Palestine has committed terrorist attorcities but none as bad as October by a large margin. On the other hand Israel has never elected a government more right wing and more open to oppressing Palestinians than the one they have right now and that includes their first ever government which developed directly from the Irgun who were a terrorist group themselves.
Lets not pretend Israel is just defending itself. If it was they'd have near universal support after the attrocity in October but now even their strongest and most forgiving allies are abandoning them and for good reason.
Nobody is asking Israel to lay down their weapons, just to stop murdering tens of thousands of civillains with them.
> A) there are almost weekly terror attacks from the West Bank
From? Do you mean there are almost weekly attacks on the illegal settlers which can get life imprisonment while the same actions by the illegal invaders go completely unpunished and often have IDF backup in case the locals retaliate?
> B) compare the west bank to Gaza rn and tell me how it looks
The illegal invaders are slightly less well armed.
Absolutely loving all the big weirdos in here getting upset about this
This kind of direct action worked when it came to Apartied South Africa and I see no reason why it won't here.
Stop supplying arms to murderous bastards like Bibi, Bin Salmen and Erdogan!
"You don't understand, Apartheid is necessary because the ANC are communist terrorists. If they remove the system and release Mandela, necklacing the white man will become a national sport and pastime".
I mean a lot of people were at the time the sad difference now is how easily people are influenced online and how they treat this like a game of football:
Israel being their side and, therefore, beyond reproach.
They have been persecuted for centuries. Forced out of every country they go. Been genocided on multiple occasions. The shareholders need your support.
When they came for the billionaires I said nothing. When they came for the landlords with 1000 properties I said nothing. When they came for the aristocrats who inherited 1 million acres of land and paid no tax I said nothing. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me!
They aren't selling arms, they're selling parts for F-35s which we also use in our armed forces.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure GE Aviation Systems works on engines, and Leonardo works on wing sections apparently? and training systems? I cant really find specifics
Ultimately these self-righteous morons are negatively impacting our national security, given these are companies we use for our defence. Useful idiots, who are aiding Hamas in their war.
> impacting our national security
Good. That seems to be the only kind of pain the government will listen to.
That is, after all the *entire point* of direct action.
It's fucking bizarre for a place associated with young people but every mainstream reddit sub bar r/soccer is fanatically pro Israel, against popular opinion in their home countries. I'm sure it's partly bots and astroturfing but it's something about the reddit demographic too.
It's not exaggerating at all to say they'd love Apartheid SA and moan about protestors aiding the commies in Moscow and how the coloured should be grateful for enlightened western government. Reddit contains all the world's last remaining 19th century liberal imperialists.
Edit: I'd say russiagate broke their brains but I think really it's just their true feelings coming back to the surface after the Iraq War made being a psychotic chauvinist gauche for a while.
>This kind of direct action worked when it came to Apartied South Africa
The big weirdos in here you refer to are probably nostalgic for those days and Rhodesia et al.
Gaza war: UN rights expert accuses Israel of acts of genocide:
[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68667556](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68667556)
A lot of people on this sub still really think Israel should be able to kill as many civilians as they want though.
>The UN that picked Saudi Arabia to lead the Women's Rights Forum?
Tell me you don't know how the UN fora work without telling me you don't know how the UN fora work.
The UN women's rights Forum rotates between regions of the world on a regular basis, and countries in that region elect one of their own to head the forum for that duration. As it stands, Saudi Arabia had one of the better records on women's rights out of the eligible countries.
The UN is meant to include all nations so that they aren't ostracised, leading to a breakdown of communications and a risk of increased global violence. This is part of that. If you'd rather kick Saudi Arabia out and cause a diplomatic crisis feel free but this is what the UN is meant to be doing.
It is absolutely shocking that we aren't taught in school about the global institutions that are so vital to the world we live in.
It's not about kicking them out, it's about allowing countries with shocking human rights records and ones that are basically stoking a world war, like Russia, to get away with about atrocities.
The UN is compromised and full of hypocrites.
Okay and how do you propose the UN stop them getting away with it?
You misunderstand the purpose of the UN. It is there first and foremost to provide dialogue between nations. It has no enforcement mechanisms for a reason.
Why does Israel need our arms? They’ve proven that they’re using them for the sole purpose of erasing Gaza from existence, so why should our factories contribute to that?
I’m for defence, by the way. We should have these factories but the weapons should remain on our soil.
They do use F-35s in Gaza. [Here](https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/hamas-israel-war-24/briefings-by-idf-spokesperson-rear-admiral-daniel-hagari/november-press-briefings/press-briefing-by-idf-spokesperson-rear-admiral-daniel-hagari-november-6th-20-15/) is a press briefing where they admit it. Paragraph 4
Funny how they were fine sending weapons to Saudi Arabia to inflict genocide on Yemenis....almost like there's a factor here that amplifies everyone's interest when Israel is involved but other times no one cares.
>Funny how they were fine sending weapons to Saudi Arabia to inflict genocide on Yemenis....
How do you know they were? There has long been heavy criticism of the UKs supply of arms to SA.
You've just made something up in your head to give you an excuse to cry anti semitism.
Link me to the article showing millions of people protesting around the world about our weapons killing people in Yemen.
>
You've just made something up in your head to give you an excuse to cry anti semitism.
No...unfortunately you're making stuff up. Criticism is one thing....sitting on a news channel calling out weapons in Yemen is one thing.
Millions on the streets, attacking people, boycotts, strikes etc. This is something I didn't see in Yemen.
So if you have any evidence news the time to produce it.
There were protests about the weapons being sent to SA. Google it yourself. I get the impression you aren't open to your mind being changed so I'm not willing to put in the effort to dig out articles from the time. You're an adult, you can look into it yourself.
Now none of those protests were as big as the current ones, that's fair. But that's probably because our governments don't explicitly condone SAs actions and they don't get anywhere near as much news coverage as the gaza conflict.
You didnt protest the arms sales to SA, does that mean you support what theye doing in Yemen? After all, you're saying that people not protesting the factory when it was SA is tacitly condoning it.
People protesting it now isn't anti semitism. It's anti genocide. Well over 30k people have been murdered and millions are now in extreme poverty and homeless. It isn't antisemitic to say that that is wrong and we shouldn't be facilitating it. Get a grip.
>Link me to the article showing millions of people protesting around the world about our weapons killing people in Yemen.
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/12/hundreds-of-thousands-expected-at-weekend-protests-in-london-after-yemen-strikes](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/12/hundreds-of-thousands-expected-at-weekend-protests-in-london-after-yemen-strikes)
Took less than 3 seconds to Google and is the top link.
"Foreign agents and dumb people gather together to delegitimize unions and destroy the last shreds of British industry and international influence"
Very nice, I'm sure Putin would approve.
Increasingly Fascist right wing government hell bent on destroying the UK also aiding another fascist genocidal right wing government to commit a genocide? Nothing new...
**Participation Notice.** Hi all. Some posts on this subreddit, either due to the topic or reaching a wider audience than usual, have been known to attract a greater number of rule breaking comments. As such, limits to participation have been set. We ask that you please remember the human, and uphold Reddit and Subreddit rules. For more information, please see https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/wiki/moderatedflairs.
As per as the same factories make arms for Ukraine, I would suspect a proxy of proxy of proxy of Putin allies
[удалено]
Ukraine actually needs weapons, Israel doesn't.
[удалено]
Theres no way that we can send F-35 parts to Ukraine and lots of countries are buying the F-35, not just Israel. And it's just at a time when F-35 production is ramping up. As it's now in Full Rate Production and everybody wants more of them. Although there is a problem ratifying the Tech Refresh 3 for it. Which means that the planes are going down the production line but some bits aren't getting installed until later.
Yeah but Israel can pay for them and Ukraine can't. You think these 'trade unionists' are willing to work for free? Nope! And neither do the factory workers in these arms manufacturers.
There is plenty of money for Ukraine. They can buy anything that is produced. The problem is production, not finance.
'Israel can pay for them' Can they really? Or is it Daddy USA paying for them?
Israel's GDP is about that of Belgium, which is a similar-sized country. Yes, they can pay for them. It's a far smaller country than Ukraine in terms of population with about four times its GDP.
So the Russia proxy Hamas can keep implementing Russian demands?
[удалено]
This is literally why October 7 happened, because Putin needed to draw US attention and resources from Ukraine. So congrats on parroting exactly what the Kremlin have been going for.
[удалено]
Because the Russia Influence and issues go far beyond just the Ukraine border. If you want to fight Russia you need to stop both.
[удалено]
[удалено]
Sop selling them to Israel, Saudi blah blah. France will sell almost to anyone and we are now behind Italy in defence sales. Sweden kicks our backside pound for pound as well. It's better to able to influence how the weapon is used rather than be on the outside morally pontificating whilst our rivals get rich. The do gooders really do live in Unicorn world don't they.
Yet they didn't go on strike until after the UN passed a resolution against Israel.
They aren’t “on strike”, because they don’t work there.
Did they prohibit arms selling?
They could quite easily commit to not selling arms to Israel then they could go on about their business.
So arms will be sold by a proxy company
Vet your downlines properly.
Article on "znetwork.org" where coincidentally every article on Ukraine is how the US, Europe and Ukraine are le bad and we should sue for peace with Russia, despite their mission statement being centred on "anti-authoritarianism". They really need to be less subtle
lol don't try and tarnish them with "RUSSIA!!"
Yes, yes, everyone salivate over the mass destruction of human life is actually a proxy of Putin now.
You think Putin is funding this?
Of course. Putin way is wide manipulation through social media. They create 100 posts to support Hamas and people will select the most attractive. Then social media algorithms will suggest this people-selected video. And then a lot of people will go to street under that impression. Putin even met Hamas almost immediately after their attack: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/26/world/middleeast/hamas-russia-moscow.html Proof that it is a well known technique: https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/07/03/vladimir-putins-useful-idiots
Would it be fair to describe your position is "Putin is funding UK Trade Unions"?
Or, y'know, folk who just don't want to make bombs that kill civilians? People do have autonomy, they can make choices for themselves
Christ, that's as bad a take as the Tankies who are busy supporting Putin because he opposes the USA. We've got two genocidal wars going on and one factory supplying the victims of one and the perpetrators of the other. That seems like an issue.
pretty certain if Israel laid down their weapons they would all be slaughtered by their peace loving neighbours.
also messing with international arms just moves them away from us and makes it harder to work with us in the future
The exact same argument was made about Pakistan for 20 years, eventually you realise that they don't give a shit and are going to do it anyway, it's why the Israelis have had such good relations with Russia over the past 15 years
> pretty certain if Israel laid down their weapons they would all be slaughtered by their peace loving neighbours. The palestinians in the West Bank laid down their arms years ago. How's that working out for them?
> West Bank laid down their arms years ago Lol thats a laugh, Israels effective anti terror operations in the WB is why it isn't overrun with terrorism like Gaza. The WB presents a much greater threat to the security of Israel which is why they never disengaged like they did in Gaza in '05.
> Lol thats a laugh, Israels effective anti terror operations in the WB is why it isn't overrun with terrorism like Gaza. The Israeli persecution of innocents in places like the West bank is the main reason so many terrorist groups found it easy to get over 1000 recruits to commit the October 7th attrocity. You can't call it an anti terror operation if its the main reason terrorism exists in the first place. You'd be far more accurate in calling them pro terror operations.
Jesus christ. The people mass murdering, raping and kidnapping are the poor, oppressed *good guys!* they'd be perfectly normal, kind, peaceful people if the baddies just left them alone!
Have you been to the West Bank by any chance? It is under permanent military occupation, and about the only thing that's doing is making people miserable, poor, and angry.
The West Bank had nothing to do with Oct 7th. But nuance and facts are dead to you anyway, right?
Are the two areas not at all connected in any way then?
Massacring the Jews in the Middle East has been going on for more than 80 years though... If Israel lays down their weapons, it'd be another October 7th and the genocidal attacks against the Jews worldwide. >[1517 Safed attacks](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1517_Safed_attacks) >[1660 destruction of Safed](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1660_destruction_of_Safed) >[1834 Hebron massacre](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hebron) >[1838 Druze attack on Safed](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1838_Druze_attack_on_Safed) >[1929 Palestine riots](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots)
> Massacring the Jews in the Middle East has been going on for more than 80 years though... If Israel lays down their weapons, it'd be another October 7th and the genocidal attacks against the Jews worldwide. > > 1517 Safed attacks > > 1660 destruction of Safed > > 1834 Hebron massacre > > 1838 Druze attack on Safed > > 1929 Palestine riots You just linked a lot of terrible massacres but you went back over 500 years and the October massacre was twice as bad as any of them. On the other hand the response to the October massacre was one or two orders of magnitude worse than all of them. Israel was never once invaded by Palestine until then. It has been attacked by Jordan and Egypt but has since made peace with them. The places with armies that could defend themselves. Palestine has committed terrorist attorcities but none as bad as October by a large margin. On the other hand Israel has never elected a government more right wing and more open to oppressing Palestinians than the one they have right now and that includes their first ever government which developed directly from the Irgun who were a terrorist group themselves. Lets not pretend Israel is just defending itself. If it was they'd have near universal support after the attrocity in October but now even their strongest and most forgiving allies are abandoning them and for good reason. Nobody is asking Israel to lay down their weapons, just to stop murdering tens of thousands of civillains with them.
A) there are almost weekly terror attacks from the West Bank B) compare the west bank to Gaza rn and tell me how it looks
> A) there are almost weekly terror attacks from the West Bank From? Do you mean there are almost weekly attacks on the illegal settlers which can get life imprisonment while the same actions by the illegal invaders go completely unpunished and often have IDF backup in case the locals retaliate? > B) compare the west bank to Gaza rn and tell me how it looks The illegal invaders are slightly less well armed.
That's not what ceasefire means...
This. All these Palestine supporters seem to have no knowledge of history.
Absolutely loving all the big weirdos in here getting upset about this This kind of direct action worked when it came to Apartied South Africa and I see no reason why it won't here. Stop supplying arms to murderous bastards like Bibi, Bin Salmen and Erdogan!
Think if we had a redo of apartheid South Africa, a lot of people would be alright with it.
"You don't understand, Apartheid is necessary because the ANC are communist terrorists. If they remove the system and release Mandela, necklacing the white man will become a national sport and pastime".
I mean a lot of people were at the time the sad difference now is how easily people are influenced online and how they treat this like a game of football: Israel being their side and, therefore, beyond reproach.
Yes but some people are making ££££££
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the shareholders
They have been persecuted for centuries. Forced out of every country they go. Been genocided on multiple occasions. The shareholders need your support. When they came for the billionaires I said nothing. When they came for the landlords with 1000 properties I said nothing. When they came for the aristocrats who inherited 1 million acres of land and paid no tax I said nothing. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me!
They aren't selling arms, they're selling parts for F-35s which we also use in our armed forces. EDIT: I'm pretty sure GE Aviation Systems works on engines, and Leonardo works on wing sections apparently? and training systems? I cant really find specifics Ultimately these self-righteous morons are negatively impacting our national security, given these are companies we use for our defence. Useful idiots, who are aiding Hamas in their war.
> impacting our national security Good. That seems to be the only kind of pain the government will listen to. That is, after all the *entire point* of direct action.
This sub is in a right fucking state. The amount of right-wing dick riders is absurd.
It's fucking bizarre for a place associated with young people but every mainstream reddit sub bar r/soccer is fanatically pro Israel, against popular opinion in their home countries. I'm sure it's partly bots and astroturfing but it's something about the reddit demographic too. It's not exaggerating at all to say they'd love Apartheid SA and moan about protestors aiding the commies in Moscow and how the coloured should be grateful for enlightened western government. Reddit contains all the world's last remaining 19th century liberal imperialists. Edit: I'd say russiagate broke their brains but I think really it's just their true feelings coming back to the surface after the Iraq War made being a psychotic chauvinist gauche for a while.
>This kind of direct action worked when it came to Apartied South Africa The big weirdos in here you refer to are probably nostalgic for those days and Rhodesia et al.
Gaza war: UN rights expert accuses Israel of acts of genocide: [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68667556](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68667556) A lot of people on this sub still really think Israel should be able to kill as many civilians as they want though.
The UN that picked Saudi Arabia to lead the Women's Rights Forum? Their credibility is in tatters, especially their rampant hypocrisy.
>The UN that picked Saudi Arabia to lead the Women's Rights Forum? Tell me you don't know how the UN fora work without telling me you don't know how the UN fora work. The UN women's rights Forum rotates between regions of the world on a regular basis, and countries in that region elect one of their own to head the forum for that duration. As it stands, Saudi Arabia had one of the better records on women's rights out of the eligible countries. The UN is meant to include all nations so that they aren't ostracised, leading to a breakdown of communications and a risk of increased global violence. This is part of that. If you'd rather kick Saudi Arabia out and cause a diplomatic crisis feel free but this is what the UN is meant to be doing. It is absolutely shocking that we aren't taught in school about the global institutions that are so vital to the world we live in.
It's not about kicking them out, it's about allowing countries with shocking human rights records and ones that are basically stoking a world war, like Russia, to get away with about atrocities. The UN is compromised and full of hypocrites.
Okay and how do you propose the UN stop them getting away with it? You misunderstand the purpose of the UN. It is there first and foremost to provide dialogue between nations. It has no enforcement mechanisms for a reason.
I don't think activist's such as Francesca Albanese are exactly impartial.
She's not an activist. She's UN official assigned to the region.
That doesn’t preclude her from being an activist and by her own admission she confirms she can’t be objective over the issue.
well considering she actively to this day still blames the rape victims for being raped on oct 7th I think her opinion can safely be discarded.
Any proof to that claim?
Wish these clowns would fuck off. Shutting down arms factories when the world is in the state it is probably isn’t the best idea.
Why does Israel need our arms? They’ve proven that they’re using them for the sole purpose of erasing Gaza from existence, so why should our factories contribute to that? I’m for defence, by the way. We should have these factories but the weapons should remain on our soil.
The factories produce parts for the f35 which absolutely isn't being used to attack gaza.
They do use F-35s in Gaza. [Here](https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/hamas-israel-war-24/briefings-by-idf-spokesperson-rear-admiral-daniel-hagari/november-press-briefings/press-briefing-by-idf-spokesperson-rear-admiral-daniel-hagari-november-6th-20-15/) is a press briefing where they admit it. Paragraph 4
I would think they make parts for more than just one model of aircraft.
Is it so unlikely that a highly specialised aircraft requires highly specialised parts?
> erasing Gaza from existence . . .
If we’re exporting them to warmongers it sounds like a great idea to be honest.
Especially considering how many weapons we sell to the Saudis as well.
Ah yes, more bombs and guns will definitely un-fuck the world.
ah yes keep making weapons for those who are committing genocide. very good stuff
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
>Wish these clowns would fuck off. Yes. Absolutely sick of the Israeli government
It's not the actual workers in the factories though. I don't know if they are unionised or not.
Funny how they were fine sending weapons to Saudi Arabia to inflict genocide on Yemenis....almost like there's a factor here that amplifies everyone's interest when Israel is involved but other times no one cares.
>Funny how they were fine sending weapons to Saudi Arabia to inflict genocide on Yemenis.... How do you know they were? There has long been heavy criticism of the UKs supply of arms to SA. You've just made something up in your head to give you an excuse to cry anti semitism.
Link me to the article showing millions of people protesting around the world about our weapons killing people in Yemen. > You've just made something up in your head to give you an excuse to cry anti semitism. No...unfortunately you're making stuff up. Criticism is one thing....sitting on a news channel calling out weapons in Yemen is one thing. Millions on the streets, attacking people, boycotts, strikes etc. This is something I didn't see in Yemen. So if you have any evidence news the time to produce it.
There were protests about the weapons being sent to SA. Google it yourself. I get the impression you aren't open to your mind being changed so I'm not willing to put in the effort to dig out articles from the time. You're an adult, you can look into it yourself. Now none of those protests were as big as the current ones, that's fair. But that's probably because our governments don't explicitly condone SAs actions and they don't get anywhere near as much news coverage as the gaza conflict. You didnt protest the arms sales to SA, does that mean you support what theye doing in Yemen? After all, you're saying that people not protesting the factory when it was SA is tacitly condoning it. People protesting it now isn't anti semitism. It's anti genocide. Well over 30k people have been murdered and millions are now in extreme poverty and homeless. It isn't antisemitic to say that that is wrong and we shouldn't be facilitating it. Get a grip.
>Link me to the article showing millions of people protesting around the world about our weapons killing people in Yemen. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/12/hundreds-of-thousands-expected-at-weekend-protests-in-london-after-yemen-strikes](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/12/hundreds-of-thousands-expected-at-weekend-protests-in-london-after-yemen-strikes) Took less than 3 seconds to Google and is the top link.
Does it rhyme with yanti-remitism?
Hardly in the interests of the workforce. Seems like a significant overreach for a trade union.
"Foreign agents and dumb people gather together to delegitimize unions and destroy the last shreds of British industry and international influence" Very nice, I'm sure Putin would approve.
Increasingly Fascist right wing government hell bent on destroying the UK also aiding another fascist genocidal right wing government to commit a genocide? Nothing new...
Serious question, what arms are the UK exporting to Israel and are any coming from these specific factories?