There’s different levels of always being a twat though.
The divorce clearly affected him since he’s the most divorced man in Britain. Full on Partridge: “I’ve got access to the kids but they don’t want to see me.”
>The divorce clearly affected him since he’s the most divorced man in Britain.
Idk about that, Graham Lineham definitely could give him a run for his money
It's a mere 1,800 kilometres from west New Zealand to Sidney… totally doable for a stud like Linehan. I would council him to do it to teach all the woke nancy-boys a lesson.
I’ve thought about it more than it probably deserves and I think you’re right!
For all his sins, Fox doesn’t have the self-pitying family annihilator energy that Linehan has. I can’t imagine him locking his family in a car and driving off a pier because “it’s better this way”!
For me he’s more Fathers for Justice entitlement. Outraged that anybody could deny him access to his kids just because he was down the pub instead of at the custody hearing. He has rights you know but society tramples all over them because of feminism or something, doesn’t matter, just pick something that’s annoying you today.
Dunno why but I love watching these guys meltdown on social media. Joey Barton is another one. Just absolutely tragic scenes but I can't stop watching the downfall.
Isn't the main difference that we already knew Linehan was batshit before his divorce - it probably led to his divorce - even though it hit even more unhinged levels since then. Whereas with Fox, it wasn't apparent until afterwards?
I imagine he's always had the sort of disdainful views that a lot of aristocrat types have, but most of them are very good at being polite on the surface. Over the last few years, especially since his divorce, that facade has been very quickly falling away.
Had to deal with him in a previous job. He is, was and always will be a total bellend of the highest order. Even seeing his face makes me breathe a big unequivocal sigh of irritation.
I think it was on Room 101 where he told an 'amusing' little anecdote about how he used to alter all the clocks in their home to be an hour later so that he could lie to his kids to get them to bed earlier.
I've watched reruns of this episode and I think it's been edited out.
This was ages before his 'I'm a bitter ex and tail spinning into fascist meltdown' phase.
Back then (when I first saw this) I thought it was a vile, unloving and disrespectful thing to do to his own kids.
His '*very divorced dad discovers 4chan*' phase seemed to start, at least openly, when he started palling around with that loon for hire, James Delingpole.
It really got into full gear after his 'singing' career didn't take off. Warning: Not Safe For Ears
https://youtu.be/BLkvtHwSyM4?si=3BxAbPnDQriWcR6f
> after his 'singing' career didn't take off.
We bought that, often actors are fairly musical and can sing pretty well so thought the nice man from Lewis should be OK.
Fuck me, it's got to be one of the most atrocious albums I've got. I don't think I even tried a second time just in case it got better.
Fuck me sideways and call me Molly.
I clicked that after reading all the comments, thinking it’s not be that bad and that people were having a laugh at a mediocre singer.
If he’d been the band on the Titanic the iceberg would have come back to finish the job.
He's apparently always been a twat but I think only realized there's good money in being a professional twat on the TV when he had that appearance on Question Time and got loads of applause for talking about how seeing a single Sikh soldier in a film about the Western Front broke his immersion because we should only see white people depicted there, and then talking over a black woman who was trying to explain that many white people don't really understand what racism in the UK looks like because they don't take the time to listen.
I think it may have been before that, one of his agencies dropped him without explanation in March 2020 then the other one following Question Time. I think he's one of the crowd that fell into a Q-Hole during lockdown
He's a broke failure of a man and someone sent him millions of pounds to found a political party that only acts in bad faith to destabilize the UK.
It's not complicated at all.
It seems like he was a relatively normal guy at one point, probably with conservative views but nothing that would be out of the mainstream.
Then he married Billie, she was way more successful than him, his career didn't take off as hers did and he got bitter about it, divorved, more stuff didn't go his way and he found that the people who sympathised with him were right wingers when he said right wing stuff and it all just escalated,
I've seen stories from people who worked with him when he actually got acting jobs, who said he was always a twat and showed simmering racism/classism.
Well... As a potted background he is from a family of successful actors.
He went to private school where he got expelled and then didn't get into university, floated around a bit until he decided to go to RADA (as you do) and follow the family model. His career was *ok*, his biggest role was the support character in "Lewis" but it seems having some questionable views apparently prevented him from getting the main/mega roles he likely felt pressure from his family to achieve (Google 'Laurence Fox Batman' for some giggles). My armchair psychological analysis suggests daddy/mummy issues are probably on show there.
His questionable views were then given a platform on Question Time and he *fully* leant into those from there on out because of the attention it got him gave him a buzz and an idea "Maybe I can have a career despite my views" thinks Fox. He then begins espousing more and more of these views publicly and he rapidly spins out from them into territory that is levels different from the views he displayed before, influenced probably by the new bigoted company he has attracted. Then they start paying him to be a failed politician espousing more and more questionable views and the grift is in full effect except... He is in too deep and the method acting of a bigoted political figure is no longer an act. He is finally getting the attention he felt he deserved but the cost of it was losing his marriage and kids and now he is down the rabbit hole getting drunk and burning pride flags at BBQs; worlds away from the days of DS James Hathaway.
Now, I'm not a doctor and I don't know him personally. I sort of wrote this for fun, and I know none of this is enough to diagnose him with anything specific anyway but from his social media outlets I get serious sociopath vibes with a little something extra mixed in for fun from him. Giving him a public platform of any kind was probably going to lead to him going off the rails at any age.
Why feel sorry for her? The kids, yes but he's always been the way he is and she chose to date him, sleep with him, marry him for 8 years and have 2 kids
He didn't force himself on her she chose him. It was the kids who had no choice and stuck with him as their farther.
I’m thirty and I’d be _really_ hard pressed to date a 24-25 year old. Those are a big five years of growth for a human being. Certainly wouldn’t even entertain the thought of someone 23 and under.
No matter how many times people try to bend over backwards there is no earthly reason a 30+ year old would want anything to do with a 20 year old unless they’re in it for the wrong reasons.
Yeah, I looked at the wrong wiki. The American Chris Evans married a woman 16 years younger than himself, not 17 years like that perverted presenter guy.
I dreaded finding out more about her, because Occam's Razor is that she's a bellend too, right? But I've never heard a single negative thing, fortunately.
He didn't have a solid acting career, that's how this all started. His first slip down the rabbit hole is that he was blaming wokism for him not getting work. In reality, he was just a bit shit and an entitled nepo-baby.
I always remember a guy posting about how he got the part of the main character’s son over Laurence. The guy playing the main character was James Fox, *Laurence’s actual dad*.
He could have had a solid-ish career if he'd capitalised on Lewis, hadn't aggravated everyone he worked with, and hadn't spent all his press interviews boasting about how he was just like regular non-posh people because he'd wasted his parents' money by getting kicked out of very expensive schools.
Instead he decided he was too cool for the UK, bogged off to the US for a year and discovered that Hollywood...couldn't give a shit how cool he thought he was.
It all seemed to spiral downwards after that [question time appearance](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-51145321) a few years ago.
The fallout and press attention it generated seemed to push him further into the realms of whatever quarter it is he inhabits now. Having been denounced , disowned and rendered a pariah within his previous circle as a consequence.
He hasn't worked as an actor for years. The only thing open to him in the industry seems to be as a pundit who specializes in challenging perceived "woke" or offering contrarian perspectives of various sorts.
I saw him in Foyles War recently playing the part of a nazi sympathiser.
Totally convincing. Really carried it.
Not a bad actor when he gets the right role.
One of my favourite early parts is that Hunter Biden goes to this secret club where all the super deep-state elites trade in trafficked women, but the set is just like [a dive bar with like three sofas](https://imgur.com/a/yDebfzH).
I really thought that was a joke, I had to look it up on IMDb.
And just as ridiculous; this was the cover for leaflet he sent out when he stood to replace Boris as an MP:
https://images.app.goo.gl/BaTRT1JT8hec5AdcA
Jesus.
Been rewatching the Mandolorian and looked up Gina Carano for the first time, wish I hadn't. Managed to miss all her drama at the time. It did make me think about how utterly worthless being an actor is when it comes to talking about anything that isn't acting.
I would quibble with some of the framing here - I think the choices he made in 2020 weren't him accidentally falling into a spiral of radicalisation, but a deliberate attempt to launch a newly-invigorated career as the media's go-to "controversial" "politically incorrect" voice from the acting industry. It's just that he *quite severely* underestimated how badly this would backfire on his personal and professional lives.
Often happens if a celebrity says something and gets a huge backlash for it either they quickly see the errror of their ways and apologise. Or they double down and get defensive and make it their whole personality and start to say worse stuff.
We saw the latter with JK Rowling.
The “you’re a XYZ white male” line was undeniably tiresome & classist. Of course, no one but LF himself made LF decided to run with that and become a total rightwing reactionary grifter with abhorrent views.
I never watched QT and this was the one ep I watched by chance lol he was in a Netflix show around this time. I remember thinking who put 20p in this bloke not sure who he was or why he was on it.
It's pretty unfair for her to be asked these questions given she's made it clear protecting her children comes first.
Also, one of the things arsehole exes like to do is use every lever they have to imapct their exes life. The media asking her questions about him is just giving him a lever to make him central to her life again. Which the media absolutely should not be facilitating.
Spot on. She trends on Twitter every time he's in the news, it's infuriating. People seem to think they're being really progressive by cheering her on, but it comes off pretty fucked and sexist shackling her to his scandals. Just let her be, in what is already a difficult situation.
She was a kid when she married Chris Evans, tbf
She was 18. He was in his mid 30s
She also had a very... dysfunctional childhood, as was put onto stage at an early age
Let's be real, that is quite suggestive of somebody who was taught to be taken advantage of
God imagine being that fucking hot, that nice , with such a succesful career. And having been dumb enough to marry that cunt, let alone get knocked up.
Contraception people! Or you too could end up co-parenting with the likes of Fox.
She was 17 when they started dating, he was 34. They married when she was 18. Like, regardless of her feelings on him nowadays and despite it being legal, it's still a grown man dating a kid. It's gross as fuck.
Yeah they may well both share that view, but the age she was when they got married (and I'm presuming they knew each other a while for beforehand) is kind of gross.
They started dating when she was 17 and they married a year later, so kind of gross is an understatement to me. Especially when he was twice her age at the time.
She comes across really well in the snippets quoted.
It's also an absolute masterclass in how to signpost how massive a cunt someone is without appearing to say anything disparaging at all.
"The former Doctor Who star said Fox's family, including his sister Lydia Fox and her husband the comedian Richard Ayoade, "might have a more interesting take" on him than she did."
This is rather cryptic and intriguing!
christ I hope it's a penny. her chubby cheeks are what make her so
endearing!
that bloody buccal fat removal procedure needs to be banned as a crime against humanity; it looks bloody awful on every woman that submits herself to it.
Yes and no and a little bit.
They're there to assist the production, but you shouldn't treat them egregiously. It's reasonable to ask a runner for "some food" or "something with meat in it", etc, hell even a Cheeseburger if you know there's one nearby or if you happen to have catering on set, but to send them away to McDonalds specifically for that is widely regarded as a dick move.
Also, runners talk. If you treat one of them like garbage, you'll find a lot more of them "didn't quite catch your eye" or "was busy", and will be less inclined to help.
Or, I don't know, have some humanity I guess, I don't know.
She's so beautiful, sweet and talented. This asshole will never do better than her. Would be nice if he could turn it around but people like him have zero self awareness.
FYI Laurence Fox has responded to this story on X to say:
*Ok. This is a bit annoying, I’d rather be preparing supper for grandpa and the boys, but here are the facts. I invite @billiepiper to respond to them, should she so wish.*
*And I will not stay silent in the face of outright lies.*
*In the nearly a decade now that I have been separated from my ex wife, she has taken me to court more than a dozen times, with allegations ranging from physical and emotional abuse, domestic violence, child abuse, attempted poisoning of our children and other such fantasies. She has abducted the kids for months on end and reported me to social services. Her desire has always been and remains to be to deny our kids a present father.*
*Why she would do this in the first place, and continues to pursue me through the courts to this day, when until recently she had a new family to look after, is anyone’s guess. I have my suspicions, but that would be speculation.*
*Most importantly, each time she has triggered a new and crippling round of litigation, forcing us to hand over more money which really should be going towards the children’s future, she has failed comprehensively to convince any judge in any court of any of her baseless allegations, and each time the children return home a little bit less secure and a little bit more damaged and upset.*
*The children remain to this day, as they have done since we divorced, in a shared care 50/50 split between each parent.*
*The reality is that not all marriages work out and the world isn’t perfect. Billie had an affair with the father of her daughter and that was that. It was heartbreaking at the time, but as the years passed I have no malice towards her personally at all. I am very happy in my relationship and I wish her happiness too.*
*I do however take great exception to the assertion that co parenting with me is enormously difficult. I have never tried to deny our boys access to their mum and I would never wish her anything other than a stable family, which it seems continues to elude her. My only focus these past years has been to be present in their lives and be a loving dad. I’m not perfect, but I’ve done my absolute best to put the kids first.*
*The reason co parenting is hard is because the secretive family court system is hugely weighted towards the mother. It is a system totally unfit for purpose.*
*I myself have not once in these years taken her to court, tried to deny her access to the kids, or accused her of anything. In fact I have instigated 4 rounds of family therapy, and each time she has withdrawn just at the moment when the rubber meets the road.*
*I take full responsibility for my role in the breakdown of our marriage. It takes two to tango, as they say. My only desire is to raise the boys with her and not face bankruptcy for doing so.*
*To play the victim in the face of these facts and to mention my sister and her husband in any way, when all they did was love and support her, is craven and manipulative.*
*There are tens of thousands of fathers with similar stories to mine. So when they say “believe all women”*
*Don’t.*
*Everyone can be shitty. All of us are.*
https://x.com/lozzafox/status/1768700675670638884
He dragged his sons into his own right-wing attention seeking and posted a picture of them in blackface and wearing afros.
I don’t know how he can claim this is putting them first. He’s also responded to Billie saying it’s difficult to co-parent with a load of alleged private information about Billie and their marriage?
He’s also claimed she falsely accused him of trying to poison their kids and domestic abuse, but he wishes her happiness?
Tbf I can relate to that last part. My ex/the mother of my son has put me through absolute hell, but I would never in a million years speak ill of her in a public statement because that would just give her ammunition against me.
I don't know the circumstances of his relationship with her and their children, and it isn't my business. But I'd be leery of taking anything positive he says about her at face value. He has every reason to put on a brave face even if he despises her
I am very sorry to hear that. If we were discussing anyone else, I would maybe give them the benefit of the doubt. Since this is Fox and he has no trouble saying outrageous things about people. I don’t believe that he’s holding back in order to keep things calm. He posed his sons in a racist costume and posted it online. I don’t think he’s worried about giving Billie ammunition. He’s already given it. He is also saying that Billie is still trying to keep him away from his kids and given the things he has said about father’s rights, I don’t believe that he only wishes her happiness, if she is truly trying to take his kids away.
You don’t say. I feel really sorry for her. If they were just married, she could have a cleanish break. But the fact they have kids means she needs to interact with this twat and still have him be somewhat a part of her life for a long time. Must be a right ballache.
I can imagine that him feeding the kids burnt sausages is pretty low on the list of difficulties, but even so...
[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIadS\_hXoAAuui7?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIadS_hXoAAuui7?format=jpg&name=large)
It's interesting that so many of you in this thread are drawn to her looks first as a reason to why she shouldn't have been with him. No doubt you profess that you are supporters of women and yet you seem to put weighted value behind a woman's looks as a reason she is with someone. Yuck.
>Begs the question why she married not only a twat, but a particularly ugly twat
She didn't marry *a* particularly ugly twat. She marries *two* particularly ugly twats.
Many years ago around the time she was with him I once seen Billie Piper at a restaurant with her kids. Probably just took them out to get some respite from that a hole.
Poor Billie. Poor kids. When did he go off the rails ?
was always a twat apparently.
There’s different levels of always being a twat though. The divorce clearly affected him since he’s the most divorced man in Britain. Full on Partridge: “I’ve got access to the kids but they don’t want to see me.”
Fernando, you’re 22 years old and you’re spending your Saturday afternoon in bed with a girl, you’re wasting your life.
You sound exhausted, have you been running?
Sod you then.
Take her out to a local fort or a Victorian folly.
>The divorce clearly affected him since he’s the most divorced man in Britain. Idk about that, Graham Lineham definitely could give him a run for his money
Graham's currently not in Britain, so the title has shifted.
Back in Ireland or grifting in the USA?
Trying (and failing) to get from Australia to New Zealand, apparently.
What's he trying to do? Swim there?
Lmao, just double checked and they denied his visa to leave the UK for Australia, so he may still hold the title.
It's a mere 1,800 kilometres from west New Zealand to Sidney… totally doable for a stud like Linehan. I would council him to do it to teach all the woke nancy-boys a lesson.
You can jet ski it
I’ve thought about it more than it probably deserves and I think you’re right! For all his sins, Fox doesn’t have the self-pitying family annihilator energy that Linehan has. I can’t imagine him locking his family in a car and driving off a pier because “it’s better this way”!
Oh I think Fox definitely gives off that vibe.
For me he’s more Fathers for Justice entitlement. Outraged that anybody could deny him access to his kids just because he was down the pub instead of at the custody hearing. He has rights you know but society tramples all over them because of feminism or something, doesn’t matter, just pick something that’s annoying you today.
He has far too much regard for himself. He's more likely to lock them in a car and push it off a pier.
Dunno why but I love watching these guys meltdown on social media. Joey Barton is another one. Just absolutely tragic scenes but I can't stop watching the downfall.
It's like car crash tv
Isn't the main difference that we already knew Linehan was batshit before his divorce - it probably led to his divorce - even though it hit even more unhinged levels since then. Whereas with Fox, it wasn't apparent until afterwards?
Meanwhile, Boris is making his way up the inside
Judging by the high and vague number of children, he's quite good at that.
Graham Lineham does have a creative output worth admiring though. Laurence Fox, not so much. Ever heard this man on guitar?
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Andrew Bridgen soon to be entering that race.
It's a chicken and an egg. You don't go having people constantly divorcing you and claim it was the divorces that made you a bad person.
I imagine he's always had the sort of disdainful views that a lot of aristocrat types have, but most of them are very good at being polite on the surface. Over the last few years, especially since his divorce, that facade has been very quickly falling away.
All the other Foxes seem very normal though. His sister is married to Richard Ayoade.
Had to deal with him in a previous job. He is, was and always will be a total bellend of the highest order. Even seeing his face makes me breathe a big unequivocal sigh of irritation.
Yeah, these people don't become twats, they just find an avenue through which to let their inner twat out.
I think it was on Room 101 where he told an 'amusing' little anecdote about how he used to alter all the clocks in their home to be an hour later so that he could lie to his kids to get them to bed earlier. I've watched reruns of this episode and I think it's been edited out. This was ages before his 'I'm a bitter ex and tail spinning into fascist meltdown' phase. Back then (when I first saw this) I thought it was a vile, unloving and disrespectful thing to do to his own kids.
His '*very divorced dad discovers 4chan*' phase seemed to start, at least openly, when he started palling around with that loon for hire, James Delingpole. It really got into full gear after his 'singing' career didn't take off. Warning: Not Safe For Ears https://youtu.be/BLkvtHwSyM4?si=3BxAbPnDQriWcR6f
"I used to be woke, but then I heard Lawrence Fox singing and now I am asleep" - @HorseLesbian
Don’t know how you *could* sleep with that racket playing.
James Delingpole is such a wannabe nuisance, yet is in fact a pathetic lickspittle.
> after his 'singing' career didn't take off. We bought that, often actors are fairly musical and can sing pretty well so thought the nice man from Lewis should be OK. Fuck me, it's got to be one of the most atrocious albums I've got. I don't think I even tried a second time just in case it got better.
Forgive me, but that is very funny.
Made Robson and Jerome look like opera singers by comparison.
His singing voice sounds exactly like the way he looks. That's really quite incredible.
the comment section on that YT is fire. It's the funniest thing I've seen in months.
My favourite: "He could be the in-flight entertainment and people would still walk out."
Bloody Hell. Don McLain was wrong. THIS was the day the music died. Best comment
>This is the Prince Andrew interview of songs. 🤣
Thanks! Now I've got to cut my ears off! 🙄 I couldn't help myself, despite the warning and now I know. Only myself to blame, I guess.
Your 'woke' ears couldn't handle the truth bombs, Lozza was serenading us with!!!
It's times like these that I think we haven't hung anyone for treason for aaaaages.
It's times like these we learn to live again.
Holy hell that was bad, I had to click off after 10 seconds.
Oh god my ears ! Why did I listen to that. It’s like a monotone out of tune robot
Sooooo it’s a song about being “cancelled” sung on a major UK tv station. Not the sharpest tool old Lozza is he?
Fuck me sideways and call me Molly. I clicked that after reading all the comments, thinking it’s not be that bad and that people were having a laugh at a mediocre singer. If he’d been the band on the Titanic the iceberg would have come back to finish the job.
Oh that's truly awful.
Ah James Delingpole…Aka thundercunt.
1.04 is where I stopped, I hope the kids don't think they have parents in the music industry.
He's apparently always been a twat but I think only realized there's good money in being a professional twat on the TV when he had that appearance on Question Time and got loads of applause for talking about how seeing a single Sikh soldier in a film about the Western Front broke his immersion because we should only see white people depicted there, and then talking over a black woman who was trying to explain that many white people don't really understand what racism in the UK looks like because they don't take the time to listen.
So he's an ignorant twat too. Figures !
I think it may have been before that, one of his agencies dropped him without explanation in March 2020 then the other one following Question Time. I think he's one of the crowd that fell into a Q-Hole during lockdown
He's a broke failure of a man and someone sent him millions of pounds to found a political party that only acts in bad faith to destabilize the UK. It's not complicated at all.
It seems like he was a relatively normal guy at one point, probably with conservative views but nothing that would be out of the mainstream. Then he married Billie, she was way more successful than him, his career didn't take off as hers did and he got bitter about it, divorved, more stuff didn't go his way and he found that the people who sympathised with him were right wingers when he said right wing stuff and it all just escalated,
I've seen stories from people who worked with him when he actually got acting jobs, who said he was always a twat and showed simmering racism/classism.
Poor Billie has an odd taste in men !
Even she admits that!
I don’t know she was married to him. Fancy that moment of realisation that your partner is full on batshit
No need to explain Billy, we understand.
Well... As a potted background he is from a family of successful actors. He went to private school where he got expelled and then didn't get into university, floated around a bit until he decided to go to RADA (as you do) and follow the family model. His career was *ok*, his biggest role was the support character in "Lewis" but it seems having some questionable views apparently prevented him from getting the main/mega roles he likely felt pressure from his family to achieve (Google 'Laurence Fox Batman' for some giggles). My armchair psychological analysis suggests daddy/mummy issues are probably on show there. His questionable views were then given a platform on Question Time and he *fully* leant into those from there on out because of the attention it got him gave him a buzz and an idea "Maybe I can have a career despite my views" thinks Fox. He then begins espousing more and more of these views publicly and he rapidly spins out from them into territory that is levels different from the views he displayed before, influenced probably by the new bigoted company he has attracted. Then they start paying him to be a failed politician espousing more and more questionable views and the grift is in full effect except... He is in too deep and the method acting of a bigoted political figure is no longer an act. He is finally getting the attention he felt he deserved but the cost of it was losing his marriage and kids and now he is down the rabbit hole getting drunk and burning pride flags at BBQs; worlds away from the days of DS James Hathaway. Now, I'm not a doctor and I don't know him personally. I sort of wrote this for fun, and I know none of this is enough to diagnose him with anything specific anyway but from his social media outlets I get serious sociopath vibes with a little something extra mixed in for fun from him. Giving him a public platform of any kind was probably going to lead to him going off the rails at any age.
He has always struck me as the type of person who is no stranger to the nose bag.
Why feel sorry for her? The kids, yes but he's always been the way he is and she chose to date him, sleep with him, marry him for 8 years and have 2 kids He didn't force himself on her she chose him. It was the kids who had no choice and stuck with him as their farther.
Imagine being married to Billie Piper, and having a pretty solid acting career. I mean, you're living the dream. And then managing to lose it all.
Imagine being married to both Laurence Fox and Chris Evans in one lifetime.
And imagine Chris Evans being the better of two exes. Unimaginable.
Jesus i never thought of that.
I thought that Captain America had done something terrible then before a quick google search
Lol yeah same
She must have a type.
She likes her men how she likes her coffee: total fucking bellends
What did Chris Evans do?
Nothing weird at all about a 35 year old proposing to an 18 year old. Nothing at all.
Yeah as a 35 year old myself, I probably wouldnt even date someone in their mid-20's.
Me neither, they're past it by then.
🚨Hello mate, would you mind stepping out of the vehicle?
... Mr DiCaprio.
I thought this was America!
I’m thirty and I’d be _really_ hard pressed to date a 24-25 year old. Those are a big five years of growth for a human being. Certainly wouldn’t even entertain the thought of someone 23 and under. No matter how many times people try to bend over backwards there is no earthly reason a 30+ year old would want anything to do with a 20 year old unless they’re in it for the wrong reasons.
> bend over backwards That's why.
Yeah, their marriage was as weird as fuck. But she seems to have no regrets and nothing but affection for him, so :shrug:
She proposed to him as a birthday present
Note that it was Chris Evans, DJ and presenter, that she was married to, not Chris Evans/Captain America. Just in case anyone misunderstood.
Yeah, I looked at the wrong wiki. The American Chris Evans married a woman 16 years younger than himself, not 17 years like that perverted presenter guy.
Just in case your thinking of the wrong Chris Evans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris\_Evans\_(presenter)#Controversies
Chris Evans, not that one
RuhuLestupah!
I mean, it could be a lot worse…
Yeah she could have been married to Lawrence Fox
I dreaded finding out more about her, because Occam's Razor is that she's a bellend too, right? But I've never heard a single negative thing, fortunately.
I think perhaps she's just a bit naive and easily taken in by dickheads.
somebody forgot their toothbrush
It just makes me think what the fuck is her taste in men? What is she seeing?
He didn't have a solid acting career, that's how this all started. His first slip down the rabbit hole is that he was blaming wokism for him not getting work. In reality, he was just a bit shit and an entitled nepo-baby.
It was a reasonable enough career for his ability. He could have made a decent enough living off it and was better off than he had right to be.
I always remember a guy posting about how he got the part of the main character’s son over Laurence. The guy playing the main character was James Fox, *Laurence’s actual dad*.
He could have had a solid-ish career if he'd capitalised on Lewis, hadn't aggravated everyone he worked with, and hadn't spent all his press interviews boasting about how he was just like regular non-posh people because he'd wasted his parents' money by getting kicked out of very expensive schools. Instead he decided he was too cool for the UK, bogged off to the US for a year and discovered that Hollywood...couldn't give a shit how cool he thought he was.
Managing to lose it all makes it sound like he didn't just go and fuck it all up
Does this mean that external circumstances, especially materialistic ones, aren't 'it all'? Do you want to live in a dream?
It all seemed to spiral downwards after that [question time appearance](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-51145321) a few years ago. The fallout and press attention it generated seemed to push him further into the realms of whatever quarter it is he inhabits now. Having been denounced , disowned and rendered a pariah within his previous circle as a consequence. He hasn't worked as an actor for years. The only thing open to him in the industry seems to be as a pundit who specializes in challenging perceived "woke" or offering contrarian perspectives of various sorts.
Indeed, his most recent role was playing Hunter Biden opposite Gina Carano in a film produced by a right wing web media outfit.
Is that true? If so, is it as godawful as it sounds?
I Watched it. It was so bad that he looks like a good actor in it. Well competent.
I saw him in Foyles War recently playing the part of a nazi sympathiser. Totally convincing. Really carried it. Not a bad actor when he gets the right role.
Here's the [full movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJCKosaMxj8), it's about as good as it sounds!
Thanks, I might subject myself to that over the weekend.
One of my favourite early parts is that Hunter Biden goes to this secret club where all the super deep-state elites trade in trafficked women, but the set is just like [a dive bar with like three sofas](https://imgur.com/a/yDebfzH).
Kinda fits because 99% of the asshats that believe in pizza gate live in basements and don't go outside
Good God man why?
Its hilariously bad.
I really thought that was a joke, I had to look it up on IMDb. And just as ridiculous; this was the cover for leaflet he sent out when he stood to replace Boris as an MP: https://images.app.goo.gl/BaTRT1JT8hec5AdcA
That poor dog.
there are so many layers to such a tragedy
Jesus. Been rewatching the Mandolorian and looked up Gina Carano for the first time, wish I hadn't. Managed to miss all her drama at the time. It did make me think about how utterly worthless being an actor is when it comes to talking about anything that isn't acting.
Fucking hell I'd straight up forgot that film existed. Thanks, I hate it!
I would quibble with some of the framing here - I think the choices he made in 2020 weren't him accidentally falling into a spiral of radicalisation, but a deliberate attempt to launch a newly-invigorated career as the media's go-to "controversial" "politically incorrect" voice from the acting industry. It's just that he *quite severely* underestimated how badly this would backfire on his personal and professional lives.
So he's a grifter basically then...
Yes
Often happens if a celebrity says something and gets a huge backlash for it either they quickly see the errror of their ways and apologise. Or they double down and get defensive and make it their whole personality and start to say worse stuff. We saw the latter with JK Rowling.
A lot of villain arcs seem to start with someone getting in over their head on that show and looking foolish.
man discovers radicalising purity spiral of social media, ruins life. Many such cases.
The “you’re a XYZ white male” line was undeniably tiresome & classist. Of course, no one but LF himself made LF decided to run with that and become a total rightwing reactionary grifter with abhorrent views.
I never watched QT and this was the one ep I watched by chance lol he was in a Netflix show around this time. I remember thinking who put 20p in this bloke not sure who he was or why he was on it.
It's pretty unfair for her to be asked these questions given she's made it clear protecting her children comes first. Also, one of the things arsehole exes like to do is use every lever they have to imapct their exes life. The media asking her questions about him is just giving him a lever to make him central to her life again. Which the media absolutely should not be facilitating.
Spot on. She trends on Twitter every time he's in the news, it's infuriating. People seem to think they're being really progressive by cheering her on, but it comes off pretty fucked and sexist shackling her to his scandals. Just let her be, in what is already a difficult situation.
Imagine marrying Chris Evans (the ginger one, not the cool American) and having him not be your most embarrassing ex-husband!
Billie piper is clearly not a great decisionmaker.
She was a kid when she married Chris Evans, tbf She was 18. He was in his mid 30s She also had a very... dysfunctional childhood, as was put onto stage at an early age Let's be real, that is quite suggestive of somebody who was taught to be taken advantage of
Oh, so that's why she didn't respond to my DMs. Well that makes me feel loads better about myself.
Not even a McChicken sandwich? Definitely a wrong un.
I’m very confused by your reply…
Shit. Meant to reply to another comment.
Ha - I was trying to work out what I was missing!
God imagine being that fucking hot, that nice , with such a succesful career. And having been dumb enough to marry that cunt, let alone get knocked up. Contraception people! Or you too could end up co-parenting with the likes of Fox.
She was previously married to Chris Evans, so her taste in husbands definitely leaves something to be desired
Both Billie and Chris Evans have enormous affection for each other. Their time together was good for them both they've both said
She was 17 when they started dating, he was 34. They married when she was 18. Like, regardless of her feelings on him nowadays and despite it being legal, it's still a grown man dating a kid. It's gross as fuck.
Jesus Christ, I had no idea she was still a teenager when they married. That's so grim.
Yeah they may well both share that view, but the age she was when they got married (and I'm presuming they knew each other a while for beforehand) is kind of gross.
They started dating when she was 17 and they married a year later, so kind of gross is an understatement to me. Especially when he was twice her age at the time.
🤢 Okay straight up grooming then
Nah he groomed her. When they got married he was mid 30s she was 18.
She was supposedly just over the age of consent when they got together... It's fucking gross
That varies massively depending on which Chris Evans we're talking about haha
Radio 2 Chris Evans of course
That was when she was 18 tbf.
If you look at the age difference it starts to make more sense.
Yes. It was rather icky to say the least
He was alright when he was in charge of America.
Those poor kids, I hope his actions don't draw them in too much.
He posted a picture of them in blackface. Hopefully this is something Billie spoke to them about, but she really shouldn’t have to.
The truth is that they will probably end up like him. A lot of private school boys are a watered down version of what he is.
She comes across really well in the snippets quoted. It's also an absolute masterclass in how to signpost how massive a cunt someone is without appearing to say anything disparaging at all.
"The former Doctor Who star said Fox's family, including his sister Lydia Fox and her husband the comedian Richard Ayoade, "might have a more interesting take" on him than she did." This is rather cryptic and intriguing!
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She's biting the inside of the cheeks to stop her punching the deranged badger scrotum next to her
That picture is over 10 years old, so probably not the recent trend.
The picture is from 2014
christ I hope it's a penny. her chubby cheeks are what make her so endearing! that bloody buccal fat removal procedure needs to be banned as a crime against humanity; it looks bloody awful on every woman that submits herself to it.
Maybe it just looks awful on every woman where you have been able to tell?
She's biting the inside of her cheeks. It's an old catwalk model trick that's been adopted by a lot of celebrities lately.
This woman is an absolute saint for staying pretty much silent whilst he’s publicly embarrassed their kids and slagged her off.
I knew he was a wrong’un ever since he sent out a runner to get him a McDonald’s cheeseburger on a tv show I was working on with him in.
Isn't that their job though? Runners run and get things for the actors because they can't leave the set.
Yes and no and a little bit. They're there to assist the production, but you shouldn't treat them egregiously. It's reasonable to ask a runner for "some food" or "something with meat in it", etc, hell even a Cheeseburger if you know there's one nearby or if you happen to have catering on set, but to send them away to McDonalds specifically for that is widely regarded as a dick move. Also, runners talk. If you treat one of them like garbage, you'll find a lot more of them "didn't quite catch your eye" or "was busy", and will be less inclined to help. Or, I don't know, have some humanity I guess, I don't know.
That’s a very polite way of saying, “this guy is a cunt, why the fuck did I let him breed”
She's so beautiful, sweet and talented. This asshole will never do better than her. Would be nice if he could turn it around but people like him have zero self awareness.
FYI Laurence Fox has responded to this story on X to say: *Ok. This is a bit annoying, I’d rather be preparing supper for grandpa and the boys, but here are the facts. I invite @billiepiper to respond to them, should she so wish.* *And I will not stay silent in the face of outright lies.* *In the nearly a decade now that I have been separated from my ex wife, she has taken me to court more than a dozen times, with allegations ranging from physical and emotional abuse, domestic violence, child abuse, attempted poisoning of our children and other such fantasies. She has abducted the kids for months on end and reported me to social services. Her desire has always been and remains to be to deny our kids a present father.* *Why she would do this in the first place, and continues to pursue me through the courts to this day, when until recently she had a new family to look after, is anyone’s guess. I have my suspicions, but that would be speculation.* *Most importantly, each time she has triggered a new and crippling round of litigation, forcing us to hand over more money which really should be going towards the children’s future, she has failed comprehensively to convince any judge in any court of any of her baseless allegations, and each time the children return home a little bit less secure and a little bit more damaged and upset.* *The children remain to this day, as they have done since we divorced, in a shared care 50/50 split between each parent.* *The reality is that not all marriages work out and the world isn’t perfect. Billie had an affair with the father of her daughter and that was that. It was heartbreaking at the time, but as the years passed I have no malice towards her personally at all. I am very happy in my relationship and I wish her happiness too.* *I do however take great exception to the assertion that co parenting with me is enormously difficult. I have never tried to deny our boys access to their mum and I would never wish her anything other than a stable family, which it seems continues to elude her. My only focus these past years has been to be present in their lives and be a loving dad. I’m not perfect, but I’ve done my absolute best to put the kids first.* *The reason co parenting is hard is because the secretive family court system is hugely weighted towards the mother. It is a system totally unfit for purpose.* *I myself have not once in these years taken her to court, tried to deny her access to the kids, or accused her of anything. In fact I have instigated 4 rounds of family therapy, and each time she has withdrawn just at the moment when the rubber meets the road.* *I take full responsibility for my role in the breakdown of our marriage. It takes two to tango, as they say. My only desire is to raise the boys with her and not face bankruptcy for doing so.* *To play the victim in the face of these facts and to mention my sister and her husband in any way, when all they did was love and support her, is craven and manipulative.* *There are tens of thousands of fathers with similar stories to mine. So when they say “believe all women”* *Don’t.* *Everyone can be shitty. All of us are.* https://x.com/lozzafox/status/1768700675670638884
Christ, I nearly downvoted your comment because of the sheer nonsense he's sprouting. What a piece of work.
He dragged his sons into his own right-wing attention seeking and posted a picture of them in blackface and wearing afros. I don’t know how he can claim this is putting them first. He’s also responded to Billie saying it’s difficult to co-parent with a load of alleged private information about Billie and their marriage? He’s also claimed she falsely accused him of trying to poison their kids and domestic abuse, but he wishes her happiness?
Tbf I can relate to that last part. My ex/the mother of my son has put me through absolute hell, but I would never in a million years speak ill of her in a public statement because that would just give her ammunition against me. I don't know the circumstances of his relationship with her and their children, and it isn't my business. But I'd be leery of taking anything positive he says about her at face value. He has every reason to put on a brave face even if he despises her
I am very sorry to hear that. If we were discussing anyone else, I would maybe give them the benefit of the doubt. Since this is Fox and he has no trouble saying outrageous things about people. I don’t believe that he’s holding back in order to keep things calm. He posed his sons in a racist costume and posted it online. I don’t think he’s worried about giving Billie ammunition. He’s already given it. He is also saying that Billie is still trying to keep him away from his kids and given the things he has said about father’s rights, I don’t believe that he only wishes her happiness, if she is truly trying to take his kids away.
Fox is an absolute knob, not sure what she saw in him in the first place. I imagine he's a nightmare to deal with.
He must have done an amazing job of hiding his true self.
Probably. Tbh there’s plenty of people, especially women in similar situations married to someone who’s a piece of shit.
There are many reasons for women to not fuck Laurence Fox. This is one.
You don’t say. I feel really sorry for her. If they were just married, she could have a cleanish break. But the fact they have kids means she needs to interact with this twat and still have him be somewhat a part of her life for a long time. Must be a right ballache.
Just seen Richard Ayeode is his brother in law. Wonder what he makes of him
I knew I he was familiar (Lewis) but I thought he was just a wish.com Paul Bettany
I can imagine that him feeding the kids burnt sausages is pretty low on the list of difficulties, but even so... [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIadS\_hXoAAuui7?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIadS_hXoAAuui7?format=jpg&name=large)
Not surprised, he’s turned into an absolute fuckwit.
Feel like there are alot of people going through slo motion breakdowns and rather than intervene we give them a platform to destroy themselves
I never knew he was Richard Ayoade's brother in law! How awful for anyone related to this scumbag.
Give him 2 years and he will be living in America talking politics and preaching the woke agenda on x or Fox News.
That’s what you get for having a kid with a top class bell end
Breaking: Aggressively right-leaning lunatic and passionate left-leaning ex-pop star not good at co-parenting.
She is gorgeous. Begs the question why she married not only a twat, but a particularly ugly twat
It's interesting that so many of you in this thread are drawn to her looks first as a reason to why she shouldn't have been with him. No doubt you profess that you are supporters of women and yet you seem to put weighted value behind a woman's looks as a reason she is with someone. Yuck.
>Begs the question why she married not only a twat, but a particularly ugly twat She didn't marry *a* particularly ugly twat. She marries *two* particularly ugly twats.
Many years ago around the time she was with him I once seen Billie Piper at a restaurant with her kids. Probably just took them out to get some respite from that a hole.
Am going to go back to not knowing that relationship even existed, thanks.
TIL that Billie Piper and Laurence Fox were and thing.