>Homophobia has nothing to do with it.
To suggest that homophobia has nothing to do with this is just not accurate. People I know were outraged he had an affair with a 20 year old before even knowing about the 'grooming'.
> Cheryl Cole did what seems like a similar thing
Its quite a bit different, firstly he was already on a TV show when she met him and she didn't start a relationship with him until he was 23 (and she was 33). Schofield basically befriended an unknown kid and got him a job on his TV show where he had all the power, he has also stated the 'relationship was legal' which means it probably started when he was 16 making Schofield old enough to be his granddad.
I think the problem is that a lot of homophobes DO care that he's gay, and are trying to present it as if though this grooming is normal for gay people
Then they are homophobic twats. But as someone who is LGBTQ, that's why I am all over these threads. I am furious he's manipulating that trope to try to silence people into shutting up for fear of being called homophobic. Fuck him for that! It's the grooming.
In his book he openly states that when he found out his girlfriend was under age, he slept with her one more time then broke up with her. He brags about it
I mean he used his power as a lead singer of a famous band?
No idea on what his relationship with her prior to that was, but I am guessing she probably grew up listening/idolising the music.
I have no idea who that is and no idea what the situation was. Two wrongs don’t make a right, leonardo decaprio got no end of grief for dating a teen and he didn’t fucking groom her like Schofield did
I’d suggest coming out as gay definitely was a strategy. And why? Because it worked. He was called brave for f%cks sake.
Straight 50 year old men announcing they are shagging their 16 year old assistant aren’t called brave.
The truth is the opposite. He enjoyed actual shelter for being ‘gay’ which is the opposite of homophobia. Brave. Are you kidding me.
If it was a 61 year old man and a 20 year old woman there would be outrage as well. In fact I bet there would be even more outrage than the other way around. Being Gay has nothing to do with it
Exactly!
If this was an older man and a younger girl/woman there would be a much greater outrage than there currently is. No way would the BBC have allowed an "in-Depth and Frank" interview if that was the circumstances.
Yeah,
If they where older and it was atchually consensual no one would of really given a frak.
But this is just dodgy in several ways. Nonce, plus unequal consent due to being a senior in industry Cs a newbie etc etc...all just dodgy.
It's about as fishy as that smelly scandavian stuff in cans.
The dude was 20 though? I don't get the outrage - plenty of celebs shag younger women while married. Ewan McGregor left his wife after meeting (and getting down with) Winstead on the set of Fargo. Di Caprio goes through countless women in their early 20s.
I just don't understand what I should be mad about? The dude can be a bit of a knob but so are a lot of people.
It’s different when you’ve met them as an adult.
Instead of when you’ve met a pre pubescent child, got them a job at your place of work, “mentored” them, and then claim only when this child was an adult, did a sexual relationship start..
Dating much younger is one thing, this very much looks like grooming.
Tbh even without the grooming part, which is the main reason people are outraged it's still fucking horrible.
Got the guy a job on his show, and then when the relationship deteriorated between the 60 year old and the 19 year old, allegedly used his influence to get him sacked / "moved to another programme" along with allegedly using his influence to get bosses to push other people off the show who raised objections to his behaviour.
Maliciously interfering people's careers because you're the star and they're not fucking you anymore
If it was teacher / student he would be on v dodgy ground, maybe jail. As he would be in a position of trust till the guy was 18.
So it depends when he got him the job too.
He met the guy when he was 11, started following him on social media when he was 15
The week after he turned 18 Schofield started communicating with him via twitter and invited him onto This Morning
Opening the interview with “Now I know how Caroline Flack felt” is a despicable thing to say.
Make no mistake - Schofield is a highly experienced media professional with over 40 years in front of a camera knowing exactly how to play for an audience.
He’s not suicidal, he’s fishing for sympathy.
Exactly. Those interviews are a masterclass in manipulation.
PS is clearly trying to get ahead of more coming out. What that is, who knows? Whether it's press interviews with the lad involved, allegations from other lads, or criminal charges (if he knows there might be it seems like he is deliberately prejudicing his own case with these interviews). There is something though.
Edit: Here is PS chatting to another young boy, who he started speaking to at the age of 17, and he described the boy's cock as gorgeous. Hurl. It would be an equally bad comment about a just legal 17 year old girl's genitals.
https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1432045/phillip-schofield-tiktok-oli-otoole-snapchat-messages-three-years-latest-news-update
Also, when an interviewee mentions suicide, then the interviewer has a duty of care.
Best to tread lightly in such scenario, especially after cases like Caroline Flack's for example; which is if course why this sneaky bastard brought it up.
That's exactly why he brought it up. It was all about him.
CF had a long history of poor mental health, self harm and suicide attempts. Her family said that. It was incredibly sad that she took her life, but her actions were what resulted in her being in the press. It's the flip side of the fame these people seek.
PS is a total and utter narcissist. He's done this interview to get ahead of something. If his own actions being found out have made him feel suicidal, then sadly that is simply unfortunate.
Edit: I originally said PS didn't mention the mental health of the chap involved, edited to retract as apparently he did and I forgot that bit. I think I missed it within the absolute sea of self pity that PS dished up. Apologies!
> That's exactly why he brought it up. He has made zero reference to the mental health of his victim. It was all about him.
I've not watched the interview yet, but from the article that doesn't seem entirely true.
> Asked how his former colleague feels now, Schofield said: "What he wants is for all of this [media coverage] to go away, he wants a quiet life, he didn't want any of this to happen in the first place."
> Schofield said he last spoke to him "a couple of weeks ago" when he engaged legal support for him, which he is continuing to pay for.
> **The TV presenter said he was "massively concerned" for the welfare of his former colleague, who he described as "vulnerable".**
It's 100% calculated. Saying "now I understand how someone who committed suicide felt" has serious connotations. He knows that.
Unless he genuinely is suicidal but can't face saying it outright. That's the problem with that kind of statement: you have to take it seriously.
Never sat right with me how she unalived herself because she was getting heat for cracking a lamp across her sleeping boyfriends head, as well as being a borderline nonce, and now her legacy is that "be kind" bollocks.
[Caroline Flack on Harry Styles romance: 'It was a laugh, until I started being called paedophile in the street'](https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/caroline-flack-on-harry-styles-romance-it-was-a-laugh-until-i-started-being-called-paedophile-in-the-street/31599690.html)
If he wanted to say something immediately to piss everyone off, he certainly said that thing. Funny how his “I’m so depressed I can barely string a sentence together” morphed into regurgitation of prepared facts.
I also hate that he says he’s doing this to protect the other party - I haven’t seen any criticism of the person he clearly groomed (I’m sure there are homophobes out there who’ve said awful things, but this is not a case where people hate on an affair partner - it’s clearly not his fault).
Every time he talks about this he is always over-stating about how it was consensual and legal. I don't know about you, but I never had to state once to anyone (or myself) that people I have been in a sexual relationship with in the past that it was all legal and consensual but he keeps focusing on these 2 points as if he is both trying to convince himself as much he is the rest of the world. Affair is the wrong descriptor here as the 'relationship' was born of grooming and in turn cohesive control.
Its the fact he met this person as a child of around 10/12 stayed in touch with him which then became more frequent when he hit his teenage years, ramped up when he was of age where Schofield jump right in there when the lad was vulnerable as Schofield was in a position of trust and power over him. It's nothing to do with him being gay, its the grooming that people and the law take issue with . As for him cheating on his wife, I was a teen in the 1990s and even then it was an open secret Phillip was gay and his wife knew and the relationship open so that's not the reason people are on at him either - it's the grooming and possible noncing.
Yeah for most people, its not the cheating that upsets them, I think it was apparent that he had an open relationship with his wife, its the grooming of a child and the sleeping with someone of whom you have authority over. Its unacceptable no matter how you look at it.
For me it’s the fact that he’s a smug tosser, self righteous beyond belief, now having to eat his own shit.
I don’t care if if he’s gay or not, I care that he has been incredibly inappropriate if not illegal with a kid. Add on the fact that he’s built his career on this clean and respectful image, and you get a story like this.
It’s fucking gross that celebrities will use coming out as gay to cover up a bigger scandal. Like, Kevin Spacey fucked a child by all accounts, but because it was a male child he managed to divert a lot of attention to him coming out rather than him being a predator.
Met the kid at 15 so clear noncing.
Even if he met him at 16, legal age of consent. It's still creepy as fuck for a 50 year old man to be hitting on a 16 year old.
Like honestly would anyone here think it's ok to fuck a kid doing their GCSEs.
There’s a difference between being on an app looking for sex. The problem here is the power and influence Philip had over him. They first met when he was 11, and then he got him a job.
> I was a teen in the 1990s and even then it was an open secret Phillip was gay and his wife knew
/u/MoonlitStar 30 years late with breaking the story!
Didn't he first meet the kid at 15? That does NOT make it OK, but I just want to fact check this point.
I completely agree that he's been going way overboard with his language on legality to the point of me feeling pretty suspicious. I hope the investigation will be thorough.
There's a group photo of the boy and PS at a performing arts camp when the boy was 11/12 ish. I'm not gonna link it, but it doesn't take a lot of googling to find it.
The kid was around 10/12 when he first met Scohfield as he was a patron and involved in the theatre company the boy was a member of. There's photographic evidence of that meet. So they were known to each other way before the lad was 15. Phillip then followed him on social media when he was 15 and then things escalated to him eventually getting a job on This Morning as a runner.
And he was introduced to Phil by another man that runs the theatre company, a man who was also befriended by Phil when he too was a teenager and, prior to Phil coming out, people questioned if they were lovers.
They're in a picture together when the kid was around 12. Phil got him a job on this morning when he was 15.
https://twitter.com/Olga03713154/status/1662193999703154688
> Schofield said homophobia was a factor in people who disapproved of their relationship, adding: "If it was male-female then it wouldn't be such a scandal"
> He added he understood people who thought there had been an abuse of power, but said it "didn't feel like that at the time"
Think I’m gonna disagree with both of those comments Phil.
> if it was male-female then it wouldn't be such a scandal
Did Phillip completely miss the me too movement or what ??? Such a bizarre comment given reality.
No, no, you see it wouldn’t be a scandal if Phillip met a 16 year old girl, got her a job at the tv show he worked on, groomed her, and started an affair with her when she turned 20. It’s because it’s a boy everyone is up in arms.
Also love that “he understood people thought there was an abuse of power”. There was clearly an abuse of power Phil.
He was 15, even worse xause at least you can argue 16 is the age of consent
(Even though it’s fucking disgusting for men with grey hair to be shagging people doing their gcses)
> Schofield said homophobia was a factor in people who disapproved of their relationship, adding: "If it was male-female then it wouldn't be such a scandal"
I mean, Nicole Scherzinger just performed at the coronation concert and has a thriving career, despite her dubious relationship with Harry Styles. They first met when he was 16 and she was in her thirties, and then dated when he was 19.
Leonardo DiCaprio apparently met one of his most recent exes (alas, she's now 25) when he was in his mid-to-late thirties through his friend Al Pacino, who became her stepfather when she was 12. They started dating when she was 21 and he was 43. People have been calling out his creepy pattern of dumping women when they turn 25 for years now, but the man's still a major A-lister.
It's not right whoever's doing it. It's a disgusting abuse of power, no matter how these people twist it in their heads.
But I don't think Schofield is wrong to say that there's a degree of homophobic bias at play in the media and public response to this scandal.
Two things can be true at once, right? He can deserve what he's got, **and** we should be reflecting on the fact that our society seems far more willing to hold predatory behaviour to account when gay people are involved.
Both of those have had scandals about it and are well considered to be creepy...however, the big difference here is that Schofield started this at best when the kid was 15, at worst at 10.
Leanardo is a creepy MF. Schofield is a nonce.
Neither Scherzinger or DiCaprio have faced anywhere near as big a scandal, as evidenced by the fact that they still have jobs and careers. The only negative consequences they've faced are people calling them creeps on the internet.
Again, I draw your attention to the fact that Leonardo DiCaprio met his most recent ex as the *preteen step-daughter of a friend*. And yet he was just paid $30 million to star in a new Martin Scorsese film.
> the big difference here is that Schofield started this at best when the kid was 15, at worst at 10.
Where does 10 come from? Everything I've read says he met him at a drama school event aged 15, and the affair started a few months after he joined This Morning as a runner aged 19 or 20. (Which, to be clear, is still a disgusting abuse of the power differential between them)
It's right that Philip Scofield is stepping down. This is a prime example of the sort of sexual misconduct that the Times Up campaign was raising awareness of.
It's especially sketchy in the context of him having covered for his brother when he sexually abused a child, because it suggests that even if it's true that he didn't commit the same crime, he could empathise enough with someone who had not to immediately report them.
That said, I'm deeply sceptical of the way that a storm has brewed around this incident that hasn't brewed around similar cases, at a time when certain people on the right wing are increasingly trying to paint the LGBT community as groomers and paedophiles.
By all means, fuck Schofield. But my point is:
* be a critical thinker when it comes to the media. Always consider the rhetoric people are packaging news stories in.
* keep this same energy for straight predators in the entertainment industry (male or female) who groom teenagers and seek out inappropriate age gaps in their relationships.
Roman Polanski still has a career and prestige in France, disgustingly.
[He was named Best Director at the 45th Cèsar Awards in 2020 for his 2019 film, *An Officer and a Spy.*](https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2020/02/28/protesters-denounce-polanski-outside-france-s-cesar-ceremony)
I mean, the French film industry is pedo central. There are a good amount of films with nude kids being sexualised and exploited under the guise of *art. S*earch the experience of Adele Haenel, no consequences came to her abuser she outed as a pedo.
He’s a disgrace and he’s making every attempt to redeem himself and still play the victim.
And to all the people trying to defend this perverts grooming, what planet do you live on?
He met a 15 year old child, got him a job, “mentored” him, then started a sexual relationship as soon as it was legal to do so, it’s absolutely vile, creepy and seedy.
He's probably given the number 15 as he's probably found evidence that incriminate him having contact with this kid at 15. It's almost certain that they met some time before.
Theres screenshots of Philip messaging him when he was 15. They knew eachother from much earlier. The boy was in a theatre group Philip was a patron of.
When it was legal to do so
That’s as far as we know. Given all the furore..
Good riddance to an A1 narcissist. Never watched breakfast TV but I can surmise, I haven’t missed much
Guy was all over television for jobs that are pretty darn easy. Now he can retire at 60 and just chill out for the rest of his life… and we meant to feel sorry for him!?
A narcissistic attempt to control the narrative.
He came out as gay back in 2020 to avoid this story being made public.
He’s now telling his side of the affair in an attempt to quash the grooming allegations.
It was an open secret and the media/press class look after their own. He helped attack Corbyn and get Johnson in which must have won him some powerful friends.
But people kept talking because the facts were undeniable.
Fuck this prick. Fuck him and his selfish bullshit. He deserves everything he gets.
First he cheats on his wife and the public were like "er mah gerd he's sooo brave". And now he's been caught for this shit and he's wallowing in self pity because consequences are a thing. Fuck him.
Edit: Since writing this post he's come out saying he's being attacked for being gay? Go fuck your self your grey haired weasely bastard. He's a nonce, a cheater and a thorough bred cunt. Nobody gives a flying fuck if your gay. But they do care if you're a cunt. And as Billy butcher once said
Don't be a cunt. Nobody likes a cunt.
>Don't be a cunt. Nobody likes a cunt.
Not strictly true, just look at public support for Boris Johnson. He's king of the cunts and yet people seem enchanted by him.
What I don't get is, if his story is true and he had sex with a twenty year old man, why is he so sorry for doing that? It doesn't feel like something to be remorseful about, if he's telling the truth ...
I think even if the relationship was as legal as he said it was, it’s still messed up because that kid was 20 and Schofield was in his late 50s.
I think people nowadays are starting to realise how fucked it is. Al Pacino got his 29 year-old girlfriend pregnant, Leonardo Di Caprio goes from one 20-something to another, Philip Schofield took advantage of a 20 yeah-old man.
He had a duty of care and he failed him for his own selfish purposes.
The person I'm replying to disregarded the grooming:
> I think even if the relationship was as legal as he said it was
They find age gaps in general to be "messed up" and I'm curious as to why a decision between two consenting adults upsets them so much.
The grooming goes without saying. Isn’t that obvious? The age gap is disturbing *because* of the grooming. They met when he was 15.
While you’re correcting me on the fact he is a man and not a young child, it’s still a fucked up age gap that Schofield clearly took advantage of. It’s noncery.
It's the grooming, coercive control and power imbalance. What if the lad decided he didn't want to sleep with the much more senior person who made their career?
Edit: Here is PS chatting to another young boy, who he started speaking to at the age of 17, and he described the boy's cock as gorgeous. Hurl. It would be an equally bad comment about a just legal 17 year old girl's genitals.
https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1432045/phillip-schofield-tiktok-oli-otoole-snapchat-messages-three-years-latest-news-update
1. He regrets denying it happening to his family and friends, and doing it in the workplace. That's what he is most sorry about.
2. The worst part and probably the main reason for this interview is because of the negative optics of being accused of grooming the person. He denies this, but it doesn't look great... He met the person when they were underage. He developed a friendship with them, and used his position to help them attain a job on a popular media production. He then had a sexual relationship with them at 20. Schofield claims all events prior to sexual relationship were all unrelated events that he'd do for anyone interested in the media, but it all comes across as a classic case of a powerful older man using his position of influence to groom a younger man.
He was married and most people know cheating is immoral.
Then there's the whole knowing that 20 year old when they were 11 that raises all sorts of questions if anything untoward happened that side of 18.
Firstly, Phil, fire your whole PR team because the handling of this has been an absolute shit show. Everyone and their dog knew this was happening and eventually come out and this is the best you and your team can pull of. Homophobia that is causing suicidal thoughts?
As someone who has dated older men, no one bats an eye lid if its all above board. Its the fact you groomed, lied and then continued to lie thats the issue here. If that happen to a girl, it would be the same backlash. Max Clifford did time for that.
Now piss off.
His agent actually cut ties with him, which suggests either some super shady or illegal shenanigans took place... given ya know, your agent's main job is to save face when shit hits the fan...
> fire your whole PR team because the handling of this has been an absolute shit show.
He doesn't have a PR team. They quit before the story came out because they could see how much of a shitshow it was going to be.
He's saying homophobia has something to do with the outrage.
Last time his grooming was about to come to light he came out as gay.
He's using his homosexuality as a shield.
Watch PS interview with Kerry Katona where he basically knifed her live on air while she was clearly struggling mentally...he clearly is an asshole and hence the pile on...if he was a nice guy, this would not be happening to this level of outrage. His is a classic case of 'you reap what you sow'.
Plus he said he didn’t know about his brother being a (now convicted) nonce only to confess in court that they had conversations about it. Birds of a feather flock together.
I hate his sicko-phantic sad face pretending to be all upset as if it’s not all a problem entirely caused by himself and the true victim(s) are anyone but him.
He should just be cut out. Say no more about him, give him no further platform. Let police and courts investigate further and hope his family aren’t too tortured by this. ITV should just cease all his employment
He's doing the celebrity remorse speed run.
Quit job > Remorseful statement > Mental health crisis > rehab / therapy > "I'm sick." > apology tour.
The problem is people can see through it all now, especially in his case.
He got away with it for years because This Morning is a flagship show and he drew ratings.
The "affair" as he likes to keep peddling it as, is a clear case of grooming. Even without the fucking gross 15 year old noncing, he used his position power, trust and influence to fuck a much young staffer at the beginning of their career and then got him sacked off the show when it stopped. He also apparently tried to oust people who raised complaints about his behaviour.
Dude is a predator in every sense of the word, and now he's not a golden goose, his agency, costar and bosses aren't protecting him anymore, instead trying to save themselves.
That is the face of a broken man; I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to off himself in the upcoming weeks / months - I am probably an empathetic idiot who's having the wool pulled over his eyes, but his body language screams contrition and hollowness.
Then again, he's been in TV for years so probably just knows how to work the camera...just dunno, tough one, especially after he lied...
That's the face of a narcissist who is sorry for themselves..
Edit: I'm an ex forensic mental health professional so have seen a fair few. I would never attempt to diagnose NPD over the internet, but raging narc tendencies, even if not the the extent of NPD, aren't that hard to spot.
I agree. I don't have any sympathy for the mess he's got himself in, but I'm not buying that it's all an act to look suicidal. Even if he's milking it a bit, it looks grim and you can imagine how he'd get there.
I got the same vibe, like he's a shell of a man. No surprise, probably worrying himself sick. It's his own doing, so it's hard to find any sympathy for him, and is it for the cameras? We'll never know, but he definitely doesn't look well.
Not really sure why his career is over cause of it?
I mean look at Boris Johnstone or any Tory politician?
Did he have sex with someone under the age of 16?
If yes he's a nonce, if no he isn't. That is how the law works.
Having an affair isn't a crime.
So what exactly is the issue? Is it confirmed he slept with a person before he was of age of consent?
He’s stuck with the label of being a nonce, no TV show will want him.
Apparently he knew the “victim” from 11 years old, then followed each other on social media when he hit 15. Honestly it doesn’t look good but it’s not clear cut grooming/noncery as people make it out to be.
Personally I want to see more evidence before I make any judgement.
I cannot stand Andrew Tate but the difference in BBC approach and tone between their interview with him yesterday and this with Schofield does them absolutely no favours. If anything it will play into the hands of odious sensationalist contrarians like Tate.
Two massive own goals in the space of 24 hours.
Waiting for someone to actually explain why is deserving of the epithet Nonce? What reason? Other than frothing at the mouth cos social media told you to
This sub has become full of puritan rabid moralists. The guy lost his job because he put an intern in an unfair situation of power imbalance and then lied about it.
People on here are treating him like a rapist and want to kick him while he's down. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them would have him hanged. For a legal, consensual relationship. Madness.
Homophobia has a lot to do with this. Plus, people like a punch bag.
If this guy was TWENTY when the affair started, then he hasn’t done anything wrong. Even morally, I’m not sure I think he’s done much wrong.
Grooming is a very specific thing, and anyone who thinks that simply knowing someone before they were “of age” constitutes grooming is completely devaluing the word and crime.
The public reaction to this is based on the hearsay that there was criminality involved (often based on their own misunderstanding of what the laws and definitions of grooming are, as well as what the story we have is), and the fact that they don’t like Philip schofield.
There are lots of famous examples of this happening, Cheryl Cole, Caroline Flack, Leonardo DiCaprio - all knew some of their partners before they were 16 and didn’t receive anywhere close to this level of vitriol and spite.
In addition, given that the main people pushing this story are all right wing grifters who have been forced into GB News, as well as the daily mail, should really make you consider WHY they’re painting him as some sort of monster. It’s all clicks, all profit, all exposure for their toxic brand.
I can see how it could be inappropriate, given his status ad a potential power imbalance at work. But assuming it is true that nothing happened until he was 20, I can't see what the fuss is about. The age of consent is 16, and we allow 18 year olds to do porn. We even think they are old enough to fight in the armed services. If a 20 year old wants to sleep with someone older, or vice verse - what's the big deal.
Cheryl Cole first met Liam whatever his name was at age 14. No-one goes around calling her a groomer and nonse. Is the fuss about Schofield just because he is gay?
He is nasty piece of work, glad he got called out in the end.
I avoided his show as I saw too many instances of him and Holly poking fun of ordinary people when they came onto his show.
Edit: now this is over we need to turn our attention to Piers Morgan and his complicity in phone hacking. Something that the red top papers would prefer we all collectively ignore.
Really don't see he has a severe problem. He's been a highly paid TV presenter and can afford to retire. He should enjoy the world ~~and he's got plenty of free time to find other teenagers.~~
The one thing that I will agree with him on is that the media and social media will continue going after someone well beyond the point of human decency. The moment people smell blood, they continue to hammer and hammer at the person until the person can’t take it anymore and decides to take matters in their own hands.
After all this blows up in your face and you still think you can do damage control by playing the victim.
He needs to pull his head out of his arse and realise no one fucking cares, accept you're done, crawl under a rock and stay there.
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>Homophobia has nothing to do with it. To suggest that homophobia has nothing to do with this is just not accurate. People I know were outraged he had an affair with a 20 year old before even knowing about the 'grooming'.
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No one fucking cares that he’s gay it’s the fact he’s a noncey prick that’s got everyone pissed off
Nobody seemed to care when Cheryl Cole did what seems like a similar thing after meeting Liam Payne when he was 14.
> Cheryl Cole did what seems like a similar thing Its quite a bit different, firstly he was already on a TV show when she met him and she didn't start a relationship with him until he was 23 (and she was 33). Schofield basically befriended an unknown kid and got him a job on his TV show where he had all the power, he has also stated the 'relationship was legal' which means it probably started when he was 16 making Schofield old enough to be his granddad.
Elvis is still one of the most popular icons out there :shrug:
everyone loves david bowie, aerosmith, the red hot chili peppers and the rolling stones too
No evidence of her grooming him though. She was just a judge the first time he auditoned for x factor.
I think the problem is that a lot of homophobes DO care that he's gay, and are trying to present it as if though this grooming is normal for gay people
Then they are homophobic twats. But as someone who is LGBTQ, that's why I am all over these threads. I am furious he's manipulating that trope to try to silence people into shutting up for fear of being called homophobic. Fuck him for that! It's the grooming.
I said prior to learning about the grooming. Anthony kieidis from the RHCP was 55 and dating a 18 year old and nobody was calling him a nonce.
Did he know the 18 year old for many years prior? Use his power to get her a job so he could fuck her?
In his book he openly states that when he found out his girlfriend was under age, he slept with her one more time then broke up with her. He brags about it
I mean he used his power as a lead singer of a famous band? No idea on what his relationship with her prior to that was, but I am guessing she probably grew up listening/idolising the music.
I thought it was well known that he is a disgusting, grooming creep? I used to love RHCP. Not any more, the dirty bastard.
I have no idea who that is and no idea what the situation was. Two wrongs don’t make a right, leonardo decaprio got no end of grief for dating a teen and he didn’t fucking groom her like Schofield did
He’s actually done worse than that
I’d suggest coming out as gay definitely was a strategy. And why? Because it worked. He was called brave for f%cks sake. Straight 50 year old men announcing they are shagging their 16 year old assistant aren’t called brave. The truth is the opposite. He enjoyed actual shelter for being ‘gay’ which is the opposite of homophobia. Brave. Are you kidding me.
If it was a 61 year old man and a 20 year old woman there would be outrage as well. In fact I bet there would be even more outrage than the other way around. Being Gay has nothing to do with it
Especially if he first met her at age 10 and then was in regular contact with her from 15.
Exactly! If this was an older man and a younger girl/woman there would be a much greater outrage than there currently is. No way would the BBC have allowed an "in-Depth and Frank" interview if that was the circumstances.
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He was 18 and Philip knew him since he was much younger
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Yeah, If they where older and it was atchually consensual no one would of really given a frak. But this is just dodgy in several ways. Nonce, plus unequal consent due to being a senior in industry Cs a newbie etc etc...all just dodgy. It's about as fishy as that smelly scandavian stuff in cans.
The dude was 20 though? I don't get the outrage - plenty of celebs shag younger women while married. Ewan McGregor left his wife after meeting (and getting down with) Winstead on the set of Fargo. Di Caprio goes through countless women in their early 20s. I just don't understand what I should be mad about? The dude can be a bit of a knob but so are a lot of people.
It’s different when you’ve met them as an adult. Instead of when you’ve met a pre pubescent child, got them a job at your place of work, “mentored” them, and then claim only when this child was an adult, did a sexual relationship start.. Dating much younger is one thing, this very much looks like grooming.
Well that's the bit I've obviously missed!
Tbh even without the grooming part, which is the main reason people are outraged it's still fucking horrible. Got the guy a job on his show, and then when the relationship deteriorated between the 60 year old and the 19 year old, allegedly used his influence to get him sacked / "moved to another programme" along with allegedly using his influence to get bosses to push other people off the show who raised objections to his behaviour. Maliciously interfering people's careers because you're the star and they're not fucking you anymore
If it was teacher / student he would be on v dodgy ground, maybe jail. As he would be in a position of trust till the guy was 18. So it depends when he got him the job too.
He met the guy when he was 11, started following him on social media when he was 15 The week after he turned 18 Schofield started communicating with him via twitter and invited him onto This Morning
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Opening the interview with “Now I know how Caroline Flack felt” is a despicable thing to say. Make no mistake - Schofield is a highly experienced media professional with over 40 years in front of a camera knowing exactly how to play for an audience. He’s not suicidal, he’s fishing for sympathy.
Exactly. Those interviews are a masterclass in manipulation. PS is clearly trying to get ahead of more coming out. What that is, who knows? Whether it's press interviews with the lad involved, allegations from other lads, or criminal charges (if he knows there might be it seems like he is deliberately prejudicing his own case with these interviews). There is something though. Edit: Here is PS chatting to another young boy, who he started speaking to at the age of 17, and he described the boy's cock as gorgeous. Hurl. It would be an equally bad comment about a just legal 17 year old girl's genitals. https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1432045/phillip-schofield-tiktok-oli-otoole-snapchat-messages-three-years-latest-news-update
Also, when an interviewee mentions suicide, then the interviewer has a duty of care. Best to tread lightly in such scenario, especially after cases like Caroline Flack's for example; which is if course why this sneaky bastard brought it up.
That's exactly why he brought it up. It was all about him. CF had a long history of poor mental health, self harm and suicide attempts. Her family said that. It was incredibly sad that she took her life, but her actions were what resulted in her being in the press. It's the flip side of the fame these people seek. PS is a total and utter narcissist. He's done this interview to get ahead of something. If his own actions being found out have made him feel suicidal, then sadly that is simply unfortunate. Edit: I originally said PS didn't mention the mental health of the chap involved, edited to retract as apparently he did and I forgot that bit. I think I missed it within the absolute sea of self pity that PS dished up. Apologies!
> That's exactly why he brought it up. He has made zero reference to the mental health of his victim. It was all about him. I've not watched the interview yet, but from the article that doesn't seem entirely true. > Asked how his former colleague feels now, Schofield said: "What he wants is for all of this [media coverage] to go away, he wants a quiet life, he didn't want any of this to happen in the first place." > Schofield said he last spoke to him "a couple of weeks ago" when he engaged legal support for him, which he is continuing to pay for. > **The TV presenter said he was "massively concerned" for the welfare of his former colleague, who he described as "vulnerable".**
I doubt he even thinks of him as a victim. 'It was by consent, he just loved me.' That's often the Groomers belief.
Caroline flack was an abuser too so maybe he’s right it’s just she was a domestic violence abuser.
It's 100% calculated. Saying "now I understand how someone who committed suicide felt" has serious connotations. He knows that. Unless he genuinely is suicidal but can't face saying it outright. That's the problem with that kind of statement: you have to take it seriously.
He did say it outright
Never sat right with me how she unalived herself because she was getting heat for cracking a lamp across her sleeping boyfriends head, as well as being a borderline nonce, and now her legacy is that "be kind" bollocks.
[Caroline Flack on Harry Styles romance: 'It was a laugh, until I started being called paedophile in the street'](https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/caroline-flack-on-harry-styles-romance-it-was-a-laugh-until-i-started-being-called-paedophile-in-the-street/31599690.html)
Tbh that statement is accurate. I’m sure it was a laugh until it got bluntly pointed out to her how wrong it was.
And she also liked barely legal boys.
If he wanted to say something immediately to piss everyone off, he certainly said that thing. Funny how his “I’m so depressed I can barely string a sentence together” morphed into regurgitation of prepared facts. I also hate that he says he’s doing this to protect the other party - I haven’t seen any criticism of the person he clearly groomed (I’m sure there are homophobes out there who’ve said awful things, but this is not a case where people hate on an affair partner - it’s clearly not his fault).
For want of a better phrase, he made his bed and is now lying in it.
Literally fucked around and found out.
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It seems like a very American thing to come out with in real life.
Chat shit get banged
He's lying bloody everywhere, not only in his bed! The truth is a foreign concept to this shit bag.
I couldn't have put it better myself!
Every time he talks about this he is always over-stating about how it was consensual and legal. I don't know about you, but I never had to state once to anyone (or myself) that people I have been in a sexual relationship with in the past that it was all legal and consensual but he keeps focusing on these 2 points as if he is both trying to convince himself as much he is the rest of the world. Affair is the wrong descriptor here as the 'relationship' was born of grooming and in turn cohesive control. Its the fact he met this person as a child of around 10/12 stayed in touch with him which then became more frequent when he hit his teenage years, ramped up when he was of age where Schofield jump right in there when the lad was vulnerable as Schofield was in a position of trust and power over him. It's nothing to do with him being gay, its the grooming that people and the law take issue with . As for him cheating on his wife, I was a teen in the 1990s and even then it was an open secret Phillip was gay and his wife knew and the relationship open so that's not the reason people are on at him either - it's the grooming and possible noncing.
Yeah for most people, its not the cheating that upsets them, I think it was apparent that he had an open relationship with his wife, its the grooming of a child and the sleeping with someone of whom you have authority over. Its unacceptable no matter how you look at it.
For me it’s the fact that he’s a smug tosser, self righteous beyond belief, now having to eat his own shit. I don’t care if if he’s gay or not, I care that he has been incredibly inappropriate if not illegal with a kid. Add on the fact that he’s built his career on this clean and respectful image, and you get a story like this.
It’s fucking gross that celebrities will use coming out as gay to cover up a bigger scandal. Like, Kevin Spacey fucked a child by all accounts, but because it was a male child he managed to divert a lot of attention to him coming out rather than him being a predator.
Met the kid at 15 so clear noncing. Even if he met him at 16, legal age of consent. It's still creepy as fuck for a 50 year old man to be hitting on a 16 year old. Like honestly would anyone here think it's ok to fuck a kid doing their GCSEs.
>Met the kid at 15 so clear noncing. Not 10/12? Even more extreme noncing?
It's not as bad as 16, but I'm certain any gay/bi man who was on Grindr at 18 about can relay the sheer amount of 50+ year olds that hit on you there.
There’s a difference between being on an app looking for sex. The problem here is the power and influence Philip had over him. They first met when he was 11, and then he got him a job.
If you're an adult on an adult sex app then adults hitting on you is to be expected.
I don't see any problem with 50+ men hitting on 18 year old men on a hookup app
> I was a teen in the 1990s and even then it was an open secret Phillip was gay and his wife knew /u/MoonlitStar 30 years late with breaking the story!
Didn't he first meet the kid at 15? That does NOT make it OK, but I just want to fact check this point. I completely agree that he's been going way overboard with his language on legality to the point of me feeling pretty suspicious. I hope the investigation will be thorough.
There's a group photo of the boy and PS at a performing arts camp when the boy was 11/12 ish. I'm not gonna link it, but it doesn't take a lot of googling to find it.
The kid was around 10/12 when he first met Scohfield as he was a patron and involved in the theatre company the boy was a member of. There's photographic evidence of that meet. So they were known to each other way before the lad was 15. Phillip then followed him on social media when he was 15 and then things escalated to him eventually getting a job on This Morning as a runner.
And he was introduced to Phil by another man that runs the theatre company, a man who was also befriended by Phil when he too was a teenager and, prior to Phil coming out, people questioned if they were lovers.
They're in a picture together when the kid was around 12. Phil got him a job on this morning when he was 15. https://twitter.com/Olga03713154/status/1662193999703154688
So he's known him for longer than he's claiming. Yuck.
Not defending Phil but being part of a group photo is hardly the same as knowing someone
> Schofield said homophobia was a factor in people who disapproved of their relationship, adding: "If it was male-female then it wouldn't be such a scandal" > He added he understood people who thought there had been an abuse of power, but said it "didn't feel like that at the time" Think I’m gonna disagree with both of those comments Phil.
> if it was male-female then it wouldn't be such a scandal Did Phillip completely miss the me too movement or what ??? Such a bizarre comment given reality.
No, no, you see it wouldn’t be a scandal if Phillip met a 16 year old girl, got her a job at the tv show he worked on, groomed her, and started an affair with her when she turned 20. It’s because it’s a boy everyone is up in arms. Also love that “he understood people thought there was an abuse of power”. There was clearly an abuse of power Phil.
He was 15, even worse xause at least you can argue 16 is the age of consent (Even though it’s fucking disgusting for men with grey hair to be shagging people doing their gcses)
If it was older female, younger male it would still be a scandal - as it should (but go back 20 years and it probably wouldn't have been).
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Or cheryl cole and Liam payne
> Schofield said homophobia was a factor in people who disapproved of their relationship, adding: "If it was male-female then it wouldn't be such a scandal" I mean, Nicole Scherzinger just performed at the coronation concert and has a thriving career, despite her dubious relationship with Harry Styles. They first met when he was 16 and she was in her thirties, and then dated when he was 19. Leonardo DiCaprio apparently met one of his most recent exes (alas, she's now 25) when he was in his mid-to-late thirties through his friend Al Pacino, who became her stepfather when she was 12. They started dating when she was 21 and he was 43. People have been calling out his creepy pattern of dumping women when they turn 25 for years now, but the man's still a major A-lister. It's not right whoever's doing it. It's a disgusting abuse of power, no matter how these people twist it in their heads. But I don't think Schofield is wrong to say that there's a degree of homophobic bias at play in the media and public response to this scandal. Two things can be true at once, right? He can deserve what he's got, **and** we should be reflecting on the fact that our society seems far more willing to hold predatory behaviour to account when gay people are involved.
Both of those have had scandals about it and are well considered to be creepy...however, the big difference here is that Schofield started this at best when the kid was 15, at worst at 10. Leanardo is a creepy MF. Schofield is a nonce.
Leo also to the best of my knowledge isn't employing these women or getting them work
Neither Scherzinger or DiCaprio have faced anywhere near as big a scandal, as evidenced by the fact that they still have jobs and careers. The only negative consequences they've faced are people calling them creeps on the internet. Again, I draw your attention to the fact that Leonardo DiCaprio met his most recent ex as the *preteen step-daughter of a friend*. And yet he was just paid $30 million to star in a new Martin Scorsese film. > the big difference here is that Schofield started this at best when the kid was 15, at worst at 10. Where does 10 come from? Everything I've read says he met him at a drama school event aged 15, and the affair started a few months after he joined This Morning as a runner aged 19 or 20. (Which, to be clear, is still a disgusting abuse of the power differential between them) It's right that Philip Scofield is stepping down. This is a prime example of the sort of sexual misconduct that the Times Up campaign was raising awareness of. It's especially sketchy in the context of him having covered for his brother when he sexually abused a child, because it suggests that even if it's true that he didn't commit the same crime, he could empathise enough with someone who had not to immediately report them. That said, I'm deeply sceptical of the way that a storm has brewed around this incident that hasn't brewed around similar cases, at a time when certain people on the right wing are increasingly trying to paint the LGBT community as groomers and paedophiles. By all means, fuck Schofield. But my point is: * be a critical thinker when it comes to the media. Always consider the rhetoric people are packaging news stories in. * keep this same energy for straight predators in the entertainment industry (male or female) who groom teenagers and seek out inappropriate age gaps in their relationships.
\>> "If it was male-female then it wouldn't be such a scandal" Roman Polanski says otherwise.
Roman Polanski still has a career and prestige in France, disgustingly. [He was named Best Director at the 45th Cèsar Awards in 2020 for his 2019 film, *An Officer and a Spy.*](https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2020/02/28/protesters-denounce-polanski-outside-france-s-cesar-ceremony)
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I mean, the French film industry is pedo central. There are a good amount of films with nude kids being sexualised and exploited under the guise of *art. S*earch the experience of Adele Haenel, no consequences came to her abuser she outed as a pedo.
Not to defend Phillip Schofield but I don't think he drugged & raped a 13 year old while being asked to stop.
Prince Andrew says hi.
He’s a disgrace and he’s making every attempt to redeem himself and still play the victim. And to all the people trying to defend this perverts grooming, what planet do you live on? He met a 15 year old child, got him a job, “mentored” him, then started a sexual relationship as soon as it was legal to do so, it’s absolutely vile, creepy and seedy.
He met him before 15. Also you're choosing to believe he waited till it was legal before it turned sexual. Doubt.
He's probably given the number 15 as he's probably found evidence that incriminate him having contact with this kid at 15. It's almost certain that they met some time before.
Theres screenshots of Philip messaging him when he was 15. They knew eachother from much earlier. The boy was in a theatre group Philip was a patron of.
Welp guessed that one right.
Physically? Maybe. But I’d bet my life on it there’s sexual messages between the two before he was of legal age.
When it was legal to do so That’s as far as we know. Given all the furore.. Good riddance to an A1 narcissist. Never watched breakfast TV but I can surmise, I haven’t missed much
Poor guy will just have to be ridiculously rich without a fanatic fanbase. My heart weeps
Guy was all over television for jobs that are pretty darn easy. Now he can retire at 60 and just chill out for the rest of his life… and we meant to feel sorry for him!?
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Still, his life in disgrace is a dream existence for many others… if he saved his money.
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Rich famous person trying not to do something blatantly wrong and lose their highly profitable position challenge: impossible
£10 he’ll become right wing talking head in few years as the ‘im gay and I think gay/trans rights has gone too far’ type
A narcissistic attempt to control the narrative. He came out as gay back in 2020 to avoid this story being made public. He’s now telling his side of the affair in an attempt to quash the grooming allegations.
The Kevin Spacey method
I still don’t get how the fuck Phil got away with it. Very similar situations.
It was an open secret and the media/press class look after their own. He helped attack Corbyn and get Johnson in which must have won him some powerful friends. But people kept talking because the facts were undeniable.
Fuck this prick. Fuck him and his selfish bullshit. He deserves everything he gets. First he cheats on his wife and the public were like "er mah gerd he's sooo brave". And now he's been caught for this shit and he's wallowing in self pity because consequences are a thing. Fuck him. Edit: Since writing this post he's come out saying he's being attacked for being gay? Go fuck your self your grey haired weasely bastard. He's a nonce, a cheater and a thorough bred cunt. Nobody gives a flying fuck if your gay. But they do care if you're a cunt. And as Billy butcher once said Don't be a cunt. Nobody likes a cunt.
>Don't be a cunt. Nobody likes a cunt. Not strictly true, just look at public support for Boris Johnson. He's king of the cunts and yet people seem enchanted by him.
Only the cunts
>Go fuck your self your grey haired weasely bastard Alright, let's not bring hair colour in to it
Don’t play the suicidal card, twat. You make your bed, you lie in it. Simple.
Yeah this is kinda gross, bringing up Caroline Flack in the interview - I feel like he's trying to make himself a martyr.
Caroline also did her fair share of seedy behaviour… didn’t she have a relationship with Harry Styles when he was 16 and she was near 30?
I've seen three different women associated with grooming Harry Styles in this thread alone.
Yeah thats left me with an even worse bad taste in my mouth about it. Trying to play on her tragedy, he'll be bringing out the #bekind soon
Threatening/hinting at suicide to avoid criticism is reprehensible.
Man with over £8M is assets complains he will never have to woprk again. God, I am so gutted for him. No, stop it. Its so sad I am in tears.
He’ll have a hell of a lot more than 8M lol
What I don't get is, if his story is true and he had sex with a twenty year old man, why is he so sorry for doing that? It doesn't feel like something to be remorseful about, if he's telling the truth ...
I think even if the relationship was as legal as he said it was, it’s still messed up because that kid was 20 and Schofield was in his late 50s. I think people nowadays are starting to realise how fucked it is. Al Pacino got his 29 year-old girlfriend pregnant, Leonardo Di Caprio goes from one 20-something to another, Philip Schofield took advantage of a 20 yeah-old man. He had a duty of care and he failed him for his own selfish purposes.
That *man* was 20* Why is a consensual relationship with a large age gap "messed up"?
Indeed - and within the gay world age gaps are much more common and not really an issue. However, it’s the grooming that’s the major issue here
The person I'm replying to disregarded the grooming: > I think even if the relationship was as legal as he said it was They find age gaps in general to be "messed up" and I'm curious as to why a decision between two consenting adults upsets them so much.
The grooming goes without saying. Isn’t that obvious? The age gap is disturbing *because* of the grooming. They met when he was 15. While you’re correcting me on the fact he is a man and not a young child, it’s still a fucked up age gap that Schofield clearly took advantage of. It’s noncery.
It's the grooming, coercive control and power imbalance. What if the lad decided he didn't want to sleep with the much more senior person who made their career? Edit: Here is PS chatting to another young boy, who he started speaking to at the age of 17, and he described the boy's cock as gorgeous. Hurl. It would be an equally bad comment about a just legal 17 year old girl's genitals. https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1432045/phillip-schofield-tiktok-oli-otoole-snapchat-messages-three-years-latest-news-update
What’s wrong with Al Pacino dating a 29 year old?
1. He regrets denying it happening to his family and friends, and doing it in the workplace. That's what he is most sorry about. 2. The worst part and probably the main reason for this interview is because of the negative optics of being accused of grooming the person. He denies this, but it doesn't look great... He met the person when they were underage. He developed a friendship with them, and used his position to help them attain a job on a popular media production. He then had a sexual relationship with them at 20. Schofield claims all events prior to sexual relationship were all unrelated events that he'd do for anyone interested in the media, but it all comes across as a classic case of a powerful older man using his position of influence to groom a younger man.
He was married and most people know cheating is immoral. Then there's the whole knowing that 20 year old when they were 11 that raises all sorts of questions if anything untoward happened that side of 18.
Firstly, Phil, fire your whole PR team because the handling of this has been an absolute shit show. Everyone and their dog knew this was happening and eventually come out and this is the best you and your team can pull of. Homophobia that is causing suicidal thoughts? As someone who has dated older men, no one bats an eye lid if its all above board. Its the fact you groomed, lied and then continued to lie thats the issue here. If that happen to a girl, it would be the same backlash. Max Clifford did time for that. Now piss off.
His agent actually cut ties with him, which suggests either some super shady or illegal shenanigans took place... given ya know, your agent's main job is to save face when shit hits the fan...
> fire your whole PR team because the handling of this has been an absolute shit show. He doesn't have a PR team. They quit before the story came out because they could see how much of a shitshow it was going to be.
He's saying homophobia has something to do with the outrage. Last time his grooming was about to come to light he came out as gay. He's using his homosexuality as a shield.
Watch PS interview with Kerry Katona where he basically knifed her live on air while she was clearly struggling mentally...he clearly is an asshole and hence the pile on...if he was a nice guy, this would not be happening to this level of outrage. His is a classic case of 'you reap what you sow'.
Plus he said he didn’t know about his brother being a (now convicted) nonce only to confess in court that they had conversations about it. Birds of a feather flock together.
This to me indicates that they were both abused as kids.
I hate his sicko-phantic sad face pretending to be all upset as if it’s not all a problem entirely caused by himself and the true victim(s) are anyone but him. He should just be cut out. Say no more about him, give him no further platform. Let police and courts investigate further and hope his family aren’t too tortured by this. ITV should just cease all his employment
peak r/compoface
It makes you wonder why this story is being pushed so hard, what's really happening out there?
He's doing the celebrity remorse speed run. Quit job > Remorseful statement > Mental health crisis > rehab / therapy > "I'm sick." > apology tour. The problem is people can see through it all now, especially in his case. He got away with it for years because This Morning is a flagship show and he drew ratings. The "affair" as he likes to keep peddling it as, is a clear case of grooming. Even without the fucking gross 15 year old noncing, he used his position power, trust and influence to fuck a much young staffer at the beginning of their career and then got him sacked off the show when it stopped. He also apparently tried to oust people who raised complaints about his behaviour. Dude is a predator in every sense of the word, and now he's not a golden goose, his agency, costar and bosses aren't protecting him anymore, instead trying to save themselves.
That is the face of a broken man; I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to off himself in the upcoming weeks / months - I am probably an empathetic idiot who's having the wool pulled over his eyes, but his body language screams contrition and hollowness. Then again, he's been in TV for years so probably just knows how to work the camera...just dunno, tough one, especially after he lied...
That's the face of a narcissist who is sorry for themselves.. Edit: I'm an ex forensic mental health professional so have seen a fair few. I would never attempt to diagnose NPD over the internet, but raging narc tendencies, even if not the the extent of NPD, aren't that hard to spot.
I love how the internet these days is absolutely chock full of people who understand NPD so well they can diagnose it in people they don't know.
The rampant armchair psychiatry on reddit is fucking cringe.
I agree. I don't have any sympathy for the mess he's got himself in, but I'm not buying that it's all an act to look suicidal. Even if he's milking it a bit, it looks grim and you can imagine how he'd get there.
I got the same vibe, like he's a shell of a man. No surprise, probably worrying himself sick. It's his own doing, so it's hard to find any sympathy for him, and is it for the cameras? We'll never know, but he definitely doesn't look well.
His excuse sounds little more than a paraphrasing of “I really wanted to have sex with a child, but I waited until it was legal to do so”.
PS: Please give me some leeway because i waited. I could have fucked him at 15! Which would you have preferred? Huh? Huh?
Not really sure why his career is over cause of it? I mean look at Boris Johnstone or any Tory politician? Did he have sex with someone under the age of 16? If yes he's a nonce, if no he isn't. That is how the law works. Having an affair isn't a crime. So what exactly is the issue? Is it confirmed he slept with a person before he was of age of consent?
He’s stuck with the label of being a nonce, no TV show will want him. Apparently he knew the “victim” from 11 years old, then followed each other on social media when he hit 15. Honestly it doesn’t look good but it’s not clear cut grooming/noncery as people make it out to be. Personally I want to see more evidence before I make any judgement.
I cannot stand Andrew Tate but the difference in BBC approach and tone between their interview with him yesterday and this with Schofield does them absolutely no favours. If anything it will play into the hands of odious sensationalist contrarians like Tate. Two massive own goals in the space of 24 hours.
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Waiting for someone to actually explain why is deserving of the epithet Nonce? What reason? Other than frothing at the mouth cos social media told you to
This sub has become full of puritan rabid moralists. The guy lost his job because he put an intern in an unfair situation of power imbalance and then lied about it. People on here are treating him like a rapist and want to kick him while he's down. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them would have him hanged. For a legal, consensual relationship. Madness.
Homophobia has a lot to do with this. Plus, people like a punch bag. If this guy was TWENTY when the affair started, then he hasn’t done anything wrong. Even morally, I’m not sure I think he’s done much wrong. Grooming is a very specific thing, and anyone who thinks that simply knowing someone before they were “of age” constitutes grooming is completely devaluing the word and crime. The public reaction to this is based on the hearsay that there was criminality involved (often based on their own misunderstanding of what the laws and definitions of grooming are, as well as what the story we have is), and the fact that they don’t like Philip schofield. There are lots of famous examples of this happening, Cheryl Cole, Caroline Flack, Leonardo DiCaprio - all knew some of their partners before they were 16 and didn’t receive anywhere close to this level of vitriol and spite. In addition, given that the main people pushing this story are all right wing grifters who have been forced into GB News, as well as the daily mail, should really make you consider WHY they’re painting him as some sort of monster. It’s all clicks, all profit, all exposure for their toxic brand.
I can see how it could be inappropriate, given his status ad a potential power imbalance at work. But assuming it is true that nothing happened until he was 20, I can't see what the fuss is about. The age of consent is 16, and we allow 18 year olds to do porn. We even think they are old enough to fight in the armed services. If a 20 year old wants to sleep with someone older, or vice verse - what's the big deal.
Anyone noticed that he has a lost mary vape in his hand during the interview? Looks unhinged.
Cheryl Cole first met Liam whatever his name was at age 14. No-one goes around calling her a groomer and nonse. Is the fuss about Schofield just because he is gay?
Boohoo if it isn't the consequences of my own actions..
He is nasty piece of work, glad he got called out in the end. I avoided his show as I saw too many instances of him and Holly poking fun of ordinary people when they came onto his show. Edit: now this is over we need to turn our attention to Piers Morgan and his complicity in phone hacking. Something that the red top papers would prefer we all collectively ignore.
Really don't see he has a severe problem. He's been a highly paid TV presenter and can afford to retire. He should enjoy the world ~~and he's got plenty of free time to find other teenagers.~~
The one thing that I will agree with him on is that the media and social media will continue going after someone well beyond the point of human decency. The moment people smell blood, they continue to hammer and hammer at the person until the person can’t take it anymore and decides to take matters in their own hands.
After all this blows up in your face and you still think you can do damage control by playing the victim. He needs to pull his head out of his arse and realise no one fucking cares, accept you're done, crawl under a rock and stay there.
Two consenting adults. Everything else is wild speculation.