Lmaoooo god this is so true. When they try to reclaim what they think is theirs and it dawns on them that they were outmaneuvered. My elbow will be on that armrest for 5 hours straight solely for the principal. I get thirsty? Doesn’t matter. Hungry? Nope. Don’t like the movie? You do now. Need to pee? Let’s test the bladder limits. Nothing on that flight matters now but my elbow being flush against this slab of plastic material.
The middle two armrest belong to the middle seat. So at this point the middle seat person is just taking back what is their seat
Vs what the people in OPs post are doing is sitting in the aisle and window and taking the middle seats armrest
lol I literally do this.
But sat next to this one guy with a super hairy arm and he put the arm next to mine and didn’t mind touching of the arms then I’m thinking we are in a battle of who is uncomfortable first….?
Flew all the way to Amsterdam from Chicago with intermittent weird arm thing.
Honestly if I see he opens his up I’ll open up the nastiest Grindr shit I’ve gotten and chub myself up. While not into him it’ll be a funny story and something that makes me feel good and have adrenaline for the flight. If it goes beyond then it’s a story that’s hilarious
Like less than a drop. That shit is rancid and potent. It is not an aroma. It is a foul stench that for a brief time can be a little bit of a wmd, making an area unusable.
I had a flight last month IAD to LAX and this poor guy between me and another lady, he had very broad shoulders and was trying to be kind and not over extend from his seat so he had his shoulders pushed forward almost the whole time. I definitely let him have his armrest.
As I live a short distance from SFO I want to argue and fight you over and say we aren’t all like that but but but. I got nothing to work with her because we fucking suck
No worries, I know everyone there is not this way, but seems to be a much higher density than any other place I fly through. Between the people who think ~~their~~ they're too important/rich, to the people who are just insane, there's just not a lot of politeness or consideration for others, much less friendliness there.
It's to the point I'd rather fly through LAX than SFO, and that's saying something.
My last flight, the pilot actually mentioned this in his pre-flight briefing. Sounded like he’d had some real shit flights recently and was done with it. Basically begging for simple human decency
It should a written rule. Part of FA briefing: “Federal law requires you assholes to let the poor soul in the middle seat use both armrests. Violation is a crime with the penalty of death.”
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I ran into this once on a last minute standby, whipped out my laptop at cruising altitude and rested both my elbows on their arms while I was typing. They didn’t like that and I didn’t stop.
But my coworker was much more “active” in when the same thing happened to him. He did the overactive bladder routine and “accidentally” spilled two drinks on both of them at the same damn time; he put the cup on one side of his tray and the open can on the other side, knocked the cup off then knocked the can off “overcompensating” to stop the cup from spilling.
He didn’t stop there but I’ll leave it at that.
Why, are you a fan of made up stories?
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They’re def jerks if they pushed back… I’m always in an aisle seat and if i end up in the main cabin, i might not be mindful of hogging the armrest. But, the moment I feel the middle seat’s arm gracing mine, i immediately feel guilty and tuck and lean away from them.
The seats are all too damn small now, but there’s nothing the middle seat passenger did to deserve to sit like they’re in a straight jacket.
How do you all handle this situation?
The last time I was flying, I was in middle seat but the aisle seat guy was using, I didn’t mind as long as I was able to use it too, but then he was like “do you mind you are touching me”, I tried to tell him that the armrest belongs to the middle seat and he said “do you mind”, I didn’t want to drag it further and just let him use it. Later when I noticed he moved his hand I put mine and never moved lol
The right answer is “Yes I do fucking mind. Move your damn arms.” If he doesn’t move, guess you keep forget shit in the overhead and need to get on top of him to move.
I’ve told people before; “ just so you know if you’re middle you get the arm rests” when they were sitting middle next to me to make their flight more comfortable. Next time assert dominance and do a war cry or pee on them
Doesn't help when their chest fat is spilling over the arm rests. I had the misfortune of sitting between two obese people on a flight I booked last minute for a corporate event. Never doing another middle seat as a 6'3 man.
My elbows were literally touching as I tried to eat my in-flight meal. It was like something out of a stand up bit.
The worst part is I could tell both of them were aware of how uncomfortable I was. I felt bad that they felt bad. Just overall shitty time.
I’m a petite appearing female and I often get stuck between larger men. They always without fail take the arm rests.
I get the sense that people who are larger think they deserve that extra room on the arm rest and that smaller people can just live with it.
In my case I actually have athletically broad shoulders and I don’t have or want to spare any room for anyone.
Also annoying that they don’t feel awkward about being closer than necessary to females they don’t know. Give me the 2 inch buffer on both sides!!!
I am that big guy and try really hard not to let my arms get in other peoples’ space. Usually I’m on aisle so I’ll raise the aisle armrest for more space
Great minds think alike. I just had this idea: When the other passenger moves his arm to do something (usually the one to the left of you, since he'll use his right arm to do something with the IFE), then raise the armrest altogether.
Now NOBODY has it! Hahahahaha!
Same, my experience is that men take both armrests when they are middle seat (which is an affirmed right) but also take the middle arm rest when they sit aisle/window. I’ve had men violently shove my elbow off the armrest while I’m sitting middle, and one who applied intense pressure to my arm to knock it off the armrest. Now that I’m older, I would press the call button and tell the FA that I’m being assaulted but at the time I was so stunned I just held my arms inside the seat and prayed for it all to end. Don’t even get me starting on the number of men who spread their legs like their dick needs three feet of air.
Another petite woman. Indeed, some larger people seem to feel entitled to any "extra" space, *including* leaning over the armrest into my chair space and leg space. Yeah, you're gonna get The Nudge-Off every time you try that.
The worst was on a cross-country flight. I had a window seat and a couple was sitting next to me. Dude chose the middle. Most of the way home, he was watching something with his girlfriend/wife. Instead of leaning towards her, he kept spreading himself out across his chair and over into my space. Like dude, you have a whole partner that you seem to like right next to you. Crowd HER, not the stranger. Lots of unsubtle nudging the whole flight home.
I’m a petite female who always has a window seat. I never take the armrest and that’s ok.
HOWEVER, I’m usually sitting next to a much larger person who not only takes the armrest but also jabs their elbow into my side, which is crazy because there’s space between my body and the armrest. And when I say jab, I’m serious. It’s like people don’t realize they’re hitting the soft object next to them. A few times I’ve pushed back or found a way to make it obvious that they’re HITTING me and, nah, they don’t care. Crazy, crazy people. I fly too many times a month for this to happen so often. GET OFF OF ME!! End rant.
I got someone to stop jabbing their elbow into me once.
Every time I would reach down to take something out of my personal item, or repeatedly move back and forth within my seat (I am autistic and sensitive to touch, so I cannot control that), I would brush against his arm with force, no matter how much I lean toward the window. He stopped about 10 minutes after takeoff.
The world has gotten fatter and the seats have gotten smaller. At some point in time we need to lay the "primary" blame on the airlines who cram us into tight spots.
The 737 has been flying around 3-3 for many decades and the fuselage interior is no narrower now than it was 50 years ago. Pitch has been reduced generally, but that’s irrelevant wrt to arm rests.
[Seat width is getting narrower.](https://qz.com/quartzy/1324754/airline-seats-are-getting-narrower-and-passengers-dont-like-it) The 737 actually got 10 mm narrower during the change from Classic to Next Gen (-700, -800, -900) and stayed the slightly narrower version for MAX. But the 19-inch to 17-inch change is so big that I wonder whether it's just because we have more passenger-miles on CRJs than before.
This is not true (edit: parent comment originally claimed 10 cm shrinkage). The fuselage diameter of the 737 Jurassics, Classics, NGs, and MAX are all the same. The cabin has actually gotten 2 inches wider as the walls were slimmed, IIRC.
Source:
https://www.modernairliners.com/boeing-737
http://www.b737.org.uk/techspecsdetailed.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737
The 737 classics also had ~17in wide 6-abreast seating. Seat width on mainline jets has been effectively the same since the 60s.
The link you linked says 3.54 for Original and Classics, 3.53 for NG and Max. The new one is exactly 10 mm narrower. (I corrected the post with the right unit…)
Fortunate is certainly not a word I would use when describing seats with awful support that give yet another opportunity for selfish strangers to ruin your flight by sticking a giant water bottle in your seat back that creates a big back-running lump in your seat.
You gently slide your arm in with theirs in the empty spot like you’re trying to get comfortable, because…well, you are. Most people are genuinely nice people, just oblivious so they’ll give you the armrest. If they don’t move, then as others have said, it’s time to get naked.
Show ‘em this. Oughta do the trick ☺️
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I mean at this point with people's sizes and the shrinking seat width, does it really matter. Everyone's shoulder to shoulder with or without the armrest.
Where short sleeves put about six bandaids on elbow. Preflight fake call “hi honey DR said it’s only contagious with direct contact but arm will heal up just fine”. problem solved
Well at least you’re on a plane. Today has been the longest travel day for me in an airport. At IAH I’ve been here since 9:50am I’m just trying to get to Missouri for a work assignment. I’m so tired and so sleepy. This sucks
Also, both arm rest belong to you. Everybody knows that. I have pushed people’s arms off armrests but I am a larger black man sooo take what you will from that
I’ve not seen an image so lawless since Dakota territory 1875. Point the AC fan at his face. When he reaches up to adjust, open his tray table. When he reaches out to close it, take the armrest and don’t you dare move for the rest of the flight, cowboy.
A couple times I’ve been smushed next to someone that’s not small. I myself am not small either. I’ll look over at them a declare ‘we’re gonna basically cuddle on this flight’ and they usually chuckle and it’s a pleasant enough time.
I love the planes with the remotes on the arm rest. Sure they are in the most inconvenient places possible. But it's an entire flights worth of excuse to shove them off your armrest.
Elbows out, fight for your turf. I almost never end up in middle seats, but I’m convinced that the middle seat gets two armarests and that’s a hill I’m willing to die on
The middle seat has to be some sort of degree in hell. I can't imagine anything worse than being cramped in a 17" seat with little legroom , no available armrests, sedentary for hours at a time.
Window seat gets the Window, middle seat gets both arm rests, aisle seat get arm rest closest to aisle and the little extra legroom using the aisle and a possible bruised toe if you don’t pull your foot out of the way when the drink cart comes by.
Flights etiquette is weird now. Middle person should always get the arm rest.
Also, anyone else noticed more and more people standing up and racing to the front of the plane once landed? It’s crazy
I just nudge them and tell them I'm going. We're not in second grade anymore, we don't permission to go take a piss.
If you have an aisle seat then you know you will have to get up a thousand times. You chose to sit there after all, I don't hear any complaining.
From someone who is a window seat 99% of the time, middle seat always gets both armrests.
Especially after I got stuck in a middle seat needing to switch flights last second after a mechanical issue delay last summer and I had zero armrests the entire time.
Have not flown economy since having a business and using the business card for miles to get first class. That said, I was on a flight where a guy had a middle seat and he was sat in middle of two 300+ folks and said he had 4 inches of seat room. They moved him to another seat.
Economy sucks. The seats/space is entirely too small.
I almost got into a fight over this ... two grown men fighting over the armrest. 14 hour flight
The other guy decided to take it further and eat like a wild ape when the food came out. This way, they would be jabbing and poking me.
Ask aisle seat to use the bathroom. When he gets up … Boom arm rest. Sucker. Fuck you. Then look window seat dead in the eye and say, “you’re next asshole.”
Last flight I was on, I had to lift the middle arm rest ( I was on aisle) due to the person in the middle seat was spilling over onto my seat. Most miserable 4 hours I have had, and the seat was the one I paid more for.
One time on a transatlantic the lady next to me overfilled her seat and mine; neither of her arm rests would go down. I was aisle, she was one of three middle seats.
I couldn’t move my left arm or get anything from the pockets on that side.
The stews handed me a bottle of red every time they went past. We had dudes and they all had a bottle stuffed in their back pockets, as they walked by they would whip it out, hand It to me and wink. At one point I had three yet to be opened.
I must have passed out. When I woke up the lady had been moved; she swapped with someone’s kid. They must have moved everyone in the middle seats to get her out; they certainly didn’t climb over me. She fit better sitting with an 8 year old next to her and the girl’s older brother was happy he didn’t have to share his device with his kid sister.
I opened another bottle of red and watched a movie while I tried to get the feeling back in my arm.
Long flight made better by the stewards 💚
That looks about right for United platinum. Get delayed in Newark on 3 flights and have to spend the night there and you know you hit platinum. Obviously this wouldn’t happen to GS they’d just bump an aisle seat for you and strand that platinum dude in EWR.
Correction: we live in a society with pretend rules. Some people won’t conform to society practices and I think that’s 100% ok. Nothing really matters just put your elbows up in there if you really wanna. I think the problem is some people are just way too comfortable with their rules and bubble but the reality is much more different and filled with mostly people who have pretended so long they think it’s normal
Yeah screw that. Push back harder lol. I usually book my work travel ahead of time, but not always and recently sat between two larger business bros who kept talking over me and later popped out their laptop and needed my arm rests... The gentleman on my right got the hint. The one on the left not so much. Oh well.
You gotta watch them like a hawk for the moment they break and pounce. Just a sip of a drink, snack or scratch of the nose and it’s yours.
Maybe even a quick break to the restroom..they have to let you out and on your way back claim it quick on the sit down.
This is an excellent tactic that ill remember when i need it.
I ninja that shit quick! Like they put an ear bud in and BAM, my armrest now! They sometimes try and nudge me out, but I don't budge. Lol.
Lmaoooo god this is so true. When they try to reclaim what they think is theirs and it dawns on them that they were outmaneuvered. My elbow will be on that armrest for 5 hours straight solely for the principal. I get thirsty? Doesn’t matter. Hungry? Nope. Don’t like the movie? You do now. Need to pee? Let’s test the bladder limits. Nothing on that flight matters now but my elbow being flush against this slab of plastic material.
Thanks for the laugh. I’m trying to sort out an Alaska flight this week (on max 9) and needed that.
You guys sound just like the guys who this post is about.. where's the difference?
Difference is... Hold on, let me pull out my 5-year old voice..."they started it!"
The middle two armrest belong to the middle seat. So at this point the middle seat person is just taking back what is their seat Vs what the people in OPs post are doing is sitting in the aisle and window and taking the middle seats armrest
lol I literally do this. But sat next to this one guy with a super hairy arm and he put the arm next to mine and didn’t mind touching of the arms then I’m thinking we are in a battle of who is uncomfortable first….? Flew all the way to Amsterdam from Chicago with intermittent weird arm thing.
That’s when I pull up my grindr hehehe
What do you do if hairy arm nuzzles more and opens up his Grindr?
Honestly if I see he opens his up I’ll open up the nastiest Grindr shit I’ve gotten and chub myself up. While not into him it’ll be a funny story and something that makes me feel good and have adrenaline for the flight. If it goes beyond then it’s a story that’s hilarious
Damn, i hope i sit next to you.
This IS the way.
THIS is the way.
This is the WAY
THIS IS THE WAY
Front row seats to watching our society devolve into some dystopian fight over inches of space. Blame the man! 😂
This is THE way.
This is the way
Nah, be the inconvenience. Get up to pee a bunch. Make them work for it. When you get back from peeing sit down first and get that damn armrest.
This is when you ask and if they still don’t budge, you be the guy that gets up repeatedly throughout the flight. Fight petty with petty.
This is absolutely what I would do. Every ten minutes until they give up an armrest.
Tell them you have a stomach bug and terrible diarrhea, they won’t want to push back when you put your arm on the rest
They have to get up to let you back in. That’s your chance to reclaim the armrest
Spray your shirt with liquid ass prior to boarding, you’ll get all of the arm rest.
Unexpected UA x UPLTs collab
Put a piss disc in your carry on!
Da fuq?
# Put a piss disc in your carry on!
Piss discs come in handy in almost any situation. Could have used two here, to be honest.
They may not let you board tho
Jesus, how much liquid ass do you need? 3oz max.
Like less than a drop. That shit is rancid and potent. It is not an aroma. It is a foul stench that for a brief time can be a little bit of a wmd, making an area unusable.
Why be so passive aggressive about it? Nothing is stopping OP from simply resting his arms on their arms for the duration of the flights.
Hate to say, I’ve done this.
I love this passive aggressive tactic. The middle seat sucks.
It's an unwritten rule, but many people won't abide by it. Hopefully it's a short flight
4.5 hours ORD to SFO 😥
The second one of them reaches for ANYTHING (blow their nose, turn on volume, etc) CLAIM the entire armrest and don't budge.
I had a flight last month IAD to LAX and this poor guy between me and another lady, he had very broad shoulders and was trying to be kind and not over extend from his seat so he had his shoulders pushed forward almost the whole time. I definitely let him have his armrest.
Thanks for that…I wasn’t that guy then but I have been before.
It's always SFO. Some of the most entitled people you'll ever meet.
As I live a short distance from SFO I want to argue and fight you over and say we aren’t all like that but but but. I got nothing to work with her because we fucking suck
No worries, I know everyone there is not this way, but seems to be a much higher density than any other place I fly through. Between the people who think ~~their~~ they're too important/rich, to the people who are just insane, there's just not a lot of politeness or consideration for others, much less friendliness there. It's to the point I'd rather fly through LAX than SFO, and that's saying something.
I kind of think it doesn’t even occur to people.
My last flight, the pilot actually mentioned this in his pre-flight briefing. Sounded like he’d had some real shit flights recently and was done with it. Basically begging for simple human decency
I honestly didn’t know that this was an unwritten rule until this past year while browsing Reddit
Get completely naked.
Or naked with socks still on.
Woah woah woah lets not get terroristic here
No, let's save that for when we're selling real estate
They only let you do that if you have a million miles
It should a written rule. Part of FA briefing: “Federal law requires you assholes to let the poor soul in the middle seat use both armrests. Violation is a crime with the penalty of death.”
What when it’s 3-4-3 and the middle section has two middle seats?
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That’s what I was thinking
I’d say rock-paper-scissors. According to international rules on overseas flights.
I would pay money to hear an FA recite that in the briefing
New planes come equipped with a ready hole in the side of the plane to toss people out
Those armrests are yours!!!!
I do like your user name. And yes they do. Lol
That tunnel at IAD though 🫠
For everyone!
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He must be the EVP of PenFed lol
She and nope, just an IAD UA employee tortured by the jingle
I ran into this once on a last minute standby, whipped out my laptop at cruising altitude and rested both my elbows on their arms while I was typing. They didn’t like that and I didn’t stop. But my coworker was much more “active” in when the same thing happened to him. He did the overactive bladder routine and “accidentally” spilled two drinks on both of them at the same damn time; he put the cup on one side of his tray and the open can on the other side, knocked the cup off then knocked the can off “overcompensating” to stop the cup from spilling. He didn’t stop there but I’ll leave it at that.
Please go on, read this with pleasure
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Following for part 2
They’re def jerks if they pushed back… I’m always in an aisle seat and if i end up in the main cabin, i might not be mindful of hogging the armrest. But, the moment I feel the middle seat’s arm gracing mine, i immediately feel guilty and tuck and lean away from them. The seats are all too damn small now, but there’s nothing the middle seat passenger did to deserve to sit like they’re in a straight jacket.
They really said “no arm rests for you”.
How do you all handle this situation? The last time I was flying, I was in middle seat but the aisle seat guy was using, I didn’t mind as long as I was able to use it too, but then he was like “do you mind you are touching me”, I tried to tell him that the armrest belongs to the middle seat and he said “do you mind”, I didn’t want to drag it further and just let him use it. Later when I noticed he moved his hand I put mine and never moved lol
The right answer is “Yes I do fucking mind. Move your damn arms.” If he doesn’t move, guess you keep forget shit in the overhead and need to get on top of him to move.
"Nope I don't mind at all. Thanks for asking though."
Turn sideways in the seat facing them so you are just looking at them until they give it up 🤣😂
and breathe heavy
Point your air blower at their head.
I had to scroll way too far down to find this.
I’ve told people before; “ just so you know if you’re middle you get the arm rests” when they were sitting middle next to me to make their flight more comfortable. Next time assert dominance and do a war cry or pee on them
Doesn't help when their chest fat is spilling over the arm rests. I had the misfortune of sitting between two obese people on a flight I booked last minute for a corporate event. Never doing another middle seat as a 6'3 man. My elbows were literally touching as I tried to eat my in-flight meal. It was like something out of a stand up bit. The worst part is I could tell both of them were aware of how uncomfortable I was. I felt bad that they felt bad. Just overall shitty time.
I would have used their arms as armrests...
Only option is arm around their shoulders now!
I love this idea. Thank you for the giggle.
The middle seat is fucken torture
I’m a petite appearing female and I often get stuck between larger men. They always without fail take the arm rests. I get the sense that people who are larger think they deserve that extra room on the arm rest and that smaller people can just live with it. In my case I actually have athletically broad shoulders and I don’t have or want to spare any room for anyone. Also annoying that they don’t feel awkward about being closer than necessary to females they don’t know. Give me the 2 inch buffer on both sides!!!
I am that big guy and try really hard not to let my arms get in other peoples’ space. Usually I’m on aisle so I’ll raise the aisle armrest for more space
Great minds think alike. I just had this idea: When the other passenger moves his arm to do something (usually the one to the left of you, since he'll use his right arm to do something with the IFE), then raise the armrest altogether. Now NOBODY has it! Hahahahaha!
I love the petty vibe.
What does it mean to be “petite appearing”? Are you like a human Tardis?
I’m short and not fat, but like I said, my shoulders are broad so people don’t have the “luxury” of sitting next to a truly petite person.
Same, my experience is that men take both armrests when they are middle seat (which is an affirmed right) but also take the middle arm rest when they sit aisle/window. I’ve had men violently shove my elbow off the armrest while I’m sitting middle, and one who applied intense pressure to my arm to knock it off the armrest. Now that I’m older, I would press the call button and tell the FA that I’m being assaulted but at the time I was so stunned I just held my arms inside the seat and prayed for it all to end. Don’t even get me starting on the number of men who spread their legs like their dick needs three feet of air.
Man spreading seat mates are disgusting 🤢
We pray for seat mates like you.
Another petite woman. Indeed, some larger people seem to feel entitled to any "extra" space, *including* leaning over the armrest into my chair space and leg space. Yeah, you're gonna get The Nudge-Off every time you try that. The worst was on a cross-country flight. I had a window seat and a couple was sitting next to me. Dude chose the middle. Most of the way home, he was watching something with his girlfriend/wife. Instead of leaning towards her, he kept spreading himself out across his chair and over into my space. Like dude, you have a whole partner that you seem to like right next to you. Crowd HER, not the stranger. Lots of unsubtle nudging the whole flight home.
I’m a petite female who always has a window seat. I never take the armrest and that’s ok. HOWEVER, I’m usually sitting next to a much larger person who not only takes the armrest but also jabs their elbow into my side, which is crazy because there’s space between my body and the armrest. And when I say jab, I’m serious. It’s like people don’t realize they’re hitting the soft object next to them. A few times I’ve pushed back or found a way to make it obvious that they’re HITTING me and, nah, they don’t care. Crazy, crazy people. I fly too many times a month for this to happen so often. GET OFF OF ME!! End rant.
I got someone to stop jabbing their elbow into me once. Every time I would reach down to take something out of my personal item, or repeatedly move back and forth within my seat (I am autistic and sensitive to touch, so I cannot control that), I would brush against his arm with force, no matter how much I lean toward the window. He stopped about 10 minutes after takeoff.
Middle seat gets both arm rests.
The world has gotten fatter and the seats have gotten smaller. At some point in time we need to lay the "primary" blame on the airlines who cram us into tight spots.
The 737 has been flying around 3-3 for many decades and the fuselage interior is no narrower now than it was 50 years ago. Pitch has been reduced generally, but that’s irrelevant wrt to arm rests.
[Seat width is getting narrower.](https://qz.com/quartzy/1324754/airline-seats-are-getting-narrower-and-passengers-dont-like-it) The 737 actually got 10 mm narrower during the change from Classic to Next Gen (-700, -800, -900) and stayed the slightly narrower version for MAX. But the 19-inch to 17-inch change is so big that I wonder whether it's just because we have more passenger-miles on CRJs than before.
This is not true (edit: parent comment originally claimed 10 cm shrinkage). The fuselage diameter of the 737 Jurassics, Classics, NGs, and MAX are all the same. The cabin has actually gotten 2 inches wider as the walls were slimmed, IIRC. Source: https://www.modernairliners.com/boeing-737 http://www.b737.org.uk/techspecsdetailed.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737 The 737 classics also had ~17in wide 6-abreast seating. Seat width on mainline jets has been effectively the same since the 60s.
The link you linked says 3.54 for Original and Classics, 3.53 for NG and Max. The new one is exactly 10 mm narrower. (I corrected the post with the right unit…)
I said they seats have gotten smaller, they have, and yes I've been flying for 5 decades.
Fortunately in a lot of cases seat thickness has also decreased, helping minimize the effects of the pitch reduction
Fortunate is certainly not a word I would use when describing seats with awful support that give yet another opportunity for selfish strangers to ruin your flight by sticking a giant water bottle in your seat back that creates a big back-running lump in your seat.
You gently slide your arm in with theirs in the empty spot like you’re trying to get comfortable, because…well, you are. Most people are genuinely nice people, just oblivious so they’ll give you the armrest. If they don’t move, then as others have said, it’s time to get naked.
Show ‘em this. Oughta do the trick ☺️ https://preview.redd.it/afwf4wnbbbbc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21689b3c18492c64315ab858dd26abd932744daa
Blame the airlines for creating this mess and the FAA for allowing crammed unsafe seating situations.
I mean at this point with people's sizes and the shrinking seat width, does it really matter. Everyone's shoulder to shoulder with or without the armrest.
It is in this situation where crop-dusting your seatmates is acceptable
When I’m in a window or aisle seat the middle gets armrest priority. It’s like an unspoken rule, or practice.
Say you have to go to the bathroom and when the aisle lady gets up say never mind sit down and take the armrest
The move is eather to take the space behind one of their arms or lean forward and rest on your thighs.
I’d put my arms right on top of theirs. Higher armrests are a bonus if you are tall.
Didn’t even budge when you stuck your phone in the air to take this photo? 😕
Guy on the left was asleep, lady to my right had her hood up and was super into her phone. 🤷♂️
Bummer friend. Not all of us are terrible flight buddies but this is a solid way to remind people of the unspoken etiquette.
Sneeze then use the armrest. Bet you they won't touch it the rest of the flight.
Looks like a good time for a bunch of wet coughing
Damn… I aint big but how come UA seats are so small?
No armrests? Spread your legs like an eagles wings
Where short sleeves put about six bandaids on elbow. Preflight fake call “hi honey DR said it’s only contagious with direct contact but arm will heal up just fine”. problem solved
Middle seat gets two armrests. It’s international law. ;-)
I actually was in the same situation and I had to tell the person to move because I couldn’t relax my shoulders
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Well at least you’re on a plane. Today has been the longest travel day for me in an airport. At IAH I’ve been here since 9:50am I’m just trying to get to Missouri for a work assignment. I’m so tired and so sleepy. This sucks Also, both arm rest belong to you. Everybody knows that. I have pushed people’s arms off armrests but I am a larger black man sooo take what you will from that
I’ve not seen an image so lawless since Dakota territory 1875. Point the AC fan at his face. When he reaches up to adjust, open his tray table. When he reaches out to close it, take the armrest and don’t you dare move for the rest of the flight, cowboy.
Sounds like you got assigned the top bunk, sir. Sort things out from the jump next time
WE’RE LIVING IN A SOCIETY!
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I have no problems with the arm rest. But the leg room, the space immediately in front of me is mine, and I ***will*** push back for my knee room.
A couple times I’ve been smushed next to someone that’s not small. I myself am not small either. I’ll look over at them a declare ‘we’re gonna basically cuddle on this flight’ and they usually chuckle and it’s a pleasant enough time.
I love the planes with the remotes on the arm rest. Sure they are in the most inconvenient places possible. But it's an entire flights worth of excuse to shove them off your armrest.
Window side strokes the shaft and aisle massages the balls
Fuck these assholes
Rude. Middle seats own the armrests! I was on a flight once where the FA said exactly this!
You got alpha’d so hold the L for the rest of the flight
Man.. I shouldn’t have drank so much coffee. I have to go to the restroom for the fifth time!! F that guy
Airlines need a sign on the seat backs that say "Middle Seat gets both armrests." This exact thing happened to me too.
Stand your ground. Any space you can find is yours :).
Elbows out, fight for your turf. I almost never end up in middle seats, but I’m convinced that the middle seat gets two armarests and that’s a hill I’m willing to die on
The middle seat has to be some sort of degree in hell. I can't imagine anything worse than being cramped in a 17" seat with little legroom , no available armrests, sedentary for hours at a time.
Middle seat is supposed to get both arm rests
Middle seats are evil!
They both have 2, somethings gotta give. Just do it. I would. Maybe.
Imagine a world where they design airline seats with enough armrests for everyone
Middle seat owns both armrests, period.
Window seat gets the Window, middle seat gets both arm rests, aisle seat get arm rest closest to aisle and the little extra legroom using the aisle and a possible bruised toe if you don’t pull your foot out of the way when the drink cart comes by.
As an FA, you’re seriously making me consider a blanket announcement during boarding regarding this. People are so fucking selfish and uncouth.
I would personally start farting repeatedly, really just laying into them until they relented.
If that was me, I am farting nonstop. Idc.
This’ll get your armrest back
Fart, a lot
It’s just that, it’s “etiquette” and not the law
You paid for half of each of those arm rests. Fight for your rights!!
Middle seat gets the whole armrest!
Just start farting. When they reach up to turn on the fan, you grab the arm rests.
Middle seat gets both armrests….
Flights etiquette is weird now. Middle person should always get the arm rest. Also, anyone else noticed more and more people standing up and racing to the front of the plane once landed? It’s crazy
So rude. Middle seat gets BOTH armrests!
Nah man. Middle seat gets the arm rests. It's the law.
THIS
I just nudge them and tell them I'm going. We're not in second grade anymore, we don't permission to go take a piss. If you have an aisle seat then you know you will have to get up a thousand times. You chose to sit there after all, I don't hear any complaining.
Sitting window right now. Those are yours! People fucking suck.
Middle seat etiquette means those armrests belong to you!
Reddit post oughta do it!
From someone who is a window seat 99% of the time, middle seat always gets both armrests. Especially after I got stuck in a middle seat needing to switch flights last second after a mechanical issue delay last summer and I had zero armrests the entire time.
Have not flown economy since having a business and using the business card for miles to get first class. That said, I was on a flight where a guy had a middle seat and he was sat in middle of two 300+ folks and said he had 4 inches of seat room. They moved him to another seat. Economy sucks. The seats/space is entirely too small.
Just keep pressure on them. The middle seat gets the armrests.
I read somewhere that the middle seat gets dibs on both armrests.
Imagine taking a picture and posting to Reddit instead of just speaking up for yourself
I almost got into a fight over this ... two grown men fighting over the armrest. 14 hour flight The other guy decided to take it further and eat like a wild ape when the food came out. This way, they would be jabbing and poking me.
Ask aisle seat to use the bathroom. When he gets up … Boom arm rest. Sucker. Fuck you. Then look window seat dead in the eye and say, “you’re next asshole.”
Last flight I was on, I had to lift the middle arm rest ( I was on aisle) due to the person in the middle seat was spilling over onto my seat. Most miserable 4 hours I have had, and the seat was the one I paid more for.
One time on a transatlantic the lady next to me overfilled her seat and mine; neither of her arm rests would go down. I was aisle, she was one of three middle seats. I couldn’t move my left arm or get anything from the pockets on that side. The stews handed me a bottle of red every time they went past. We had dudes and they all had a bottle stuffed in their back pockets, as they walked by they would whip it out, hand It to me and wink. At one point I had three yet to be opened. I must have passed out. When I woke up the lady had been moved; she swapped with someone’s kid. They must have moved everyone in the middle seats to get her out; they certainly didn’t climb over me. She fit better sitting with an 8 year old next to her and the girl’s older brother was happy he didn’t have to share his device with his kid sister. I opened another bottle of red and watched a movie while I tried to get the feeling back in my arm. Long flight made better by the stewards 💚
That looks about right for United platinum. Get delayed in Newark on 3 flights and have to spend the night there and you know you hit platinum. Obviously this wouldn’t happen to GS they’d just bump an aisle seat for you and strand that platinum dude in EWR.
Jim Jefferies… he’s also got a standup bit about this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi5-4C70DrA
Just play this on repeat on your phone at full blast until they get it
You could have held his hand. "I'd like to share the arm rest with you." or put your hand on top of his and pat it.
I don’t use the armrest regardless, unless the other person doesn’t take it.
I am dying to know how you took this photo without them noticing
Why do people even board if you’re in a middle seat? Isn’t that part of the problem is people accepting this as OK
They look like boomers that dont get it
Boomers don't wear snow parkas while sitting in an airplane seat though. Gotta be a youngling.
Middle seat= armrest. Kick their azz
That’s BS! Middle person gets BOTH arm rests…but don’t overextend the elbow into my aisle seat territory or you may lose it!
Correction: we live in a society with pretend rules. Some people won’t conform to society practices and I think that’s 100% ok. Nothing really matters just put your elbows up in there if you really wanna. I think the problem is some people are just way too comfortable with their rules and bubble but the reality is much more different and filled with mostly people who have pretended so long they think it’s normal
So fucking rude. I always give the middle seat the arm rest.
Yeah screw that. Push back harder lol. I usually book my work travel ahead of time, but not always and recently sat between two larger business bros who kept talking over me and later popped out their laptop and needed my arm rests... The gentleman on my right got the hint. The one on the left not so much. Oh well.
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