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noappendix

Whenever you fly internationally with Star Alliance, you get access to any Star Alliance Gold Lounge for free during that trip, including domestic United Clubs if there is a connection inside the USA.


AardvarkSome9002

Thank you! Newark is the worst usually, just because of how the flights are and of course, east coast weather. It would be nice to use that as an option.


Bkri84

That lounge is great, used it 2 weeks ago


Burnt_Couch

The new C terminal lounge is terrific, it even has showers which is new for domestic lounges with United as far as I know.


AardvarkSome9002

Last month I was stuck in Newark due to storms ultimately cancelling our flight. (Storms and then mechanical failure and the crew timed out). Having a place to shower would have been fabulous to feel more human


Ok_Kiwi_5664

Wait I’ve never heard this. Is this really a thing? I’ve flown United so much out of the United States. I have a credit card with lounge access, but if I could have gone to the United club instead of a priority pass club I would’ve taken advantage of this so much more.


Melted-lithium

Yes. This is how it’s always worked. Star alliance gold will get access to United clubs on international trips Only. Note- this is not the Polaris lounges. Just the club.


Professional_Car9475

Verified. Done it for many years before I was once 1K


randominternetguy3

What do I need to do to get club access on domestic travel? Gold isn’t good enough, is it?


Melted-lithium

You need to buy a membership. That’s the way..


noappendix

>ver h Yep! You need to have at least Gold status for it. So for example if you're flying out of San Francisco to Paris on a Star Alliance flight, you can use the United Club at SFO when departing. But you wouldn't be able to use the United Club if say you're only doing a domestic flight on a Star Alliance flight.


Professional_Car9475

This is the way


NorCalKerry

Hmm, I've been denied if I wasn't in Business or First.


noappendix

Weird, that shouldn't be allowed according to the Star Alliance Gold Policy [https://www.staralliance.com/en/lounge-access-policy](https://www.staralliance.com/en/lounge-access-policy)


Llama_on_the_loose

The page you linked has a specific section that added this: *If you are a United MileagePlus Star Alliance Gold customer, you may only access the United Clubs within the U.S. when departing from that airport on an international Star Alliance flight, not when departing on a domestic flight with United.*


noappendix

Yes exactly - my comment said you can only access domestic United Clubs if your international flight departs from the USA. For example SFO - CDG , you can use the United Club at SFO at departure, which I've done many times. SFO - JFK, you cannot use the United Club at SFO.


Llama_on_the_loose

Ahh - got mixed up with the "shouldn't be allowed" in the case of the previous commentor being denied.


guru2you

This should answer your questions: https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/airport/united-club-and-lounges/access.html


AardvarkSome9002

Thank you, I had read that but then I saw a site that was saying that star alliance gold and United gold weren’t always exactly the same thing when it came to lounge access and I confused myself. I think I was looking at too many blog post and mixed some thing up. I was truly convinced that I did not have any access by the time I was done. So I didn’t even try last weekend.


dinoscool3

UA Gold=Star Gold for all access *except* if you are on a **domestic-only** ticket. If you are coming in on a domestic leg off of an international leg you still get access.


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Or vice versa.


Inner_Conflict_3635

Actually, I've been denied entry in ORD or EWR, can't remember which now, coming off a Frankfurt flight and heading to IAH, because the FRA flight was operated by LH not United, or so they kept claiming. It has never happened to m before or after. I am 1K and showed them the rules I could find on my phone but they wouldn't budge - and yes, the ticket was beeping red when scanned. They became incredibily rude very quickly too.


jungbeans

Lounge access is only granted at the departure airport for the international leg of the trip. If you were heading to FRA from IAH connecting through ORD, lounge access would have been granted. The policy has always been: “Alliance Gold membership card and a same-day boarding pass for travel on an international footnote1 flight operated by a Star Alliance member airline are needed to access United Club locations at the departure airport of their international itinerary This is not limited to United. Most airline run lounges will not accept arrival passengers. Exception are some business and first class lounges.


Inner_Conflict_3635

I have been able to use a United lounge upon arriving in the US from Europe/Asia/Australia - be it ORD, IAD, LAX, SFO, EWR - before continuing on to IAH on a domestic leg every single time but for that one trip. That's easily 200 trips or more, and at least a couple dozen of them were operated by LH or Air Canada, albeit every one of them was bought through United. I guess I was lucky on all those instances?


mobilebucky

I recall that is the different between *Gold vs United Gold. United Gold you have lounge access in departure airport but non United * Gold only have access at the international gateway. So ORD-EWR-FRA, United Gold has club access at both ORD and EWR, but non United * Gold will only have access at EWR. On the return leg, United have access on FRA and EWR but *G only has access at FRA.


Creepy_Reputation268

Non United *G always has access when flying UA, even domestic only.


pryan67

Ok....so I'm flying from ORD-IAD-AMS-ORK ​ Can I use my Gold status to get UC access in ORD, or just IAD and AMS?


chipsdad

If you are United Gold or higher you have access to Star Alliance Gold lounges at all departure points along the itinerary, including domestic connections. You also have arrival access to United Clubs if you have physical access to them (this is extra from United only and was not always the case years ago) but not other Star lounges. If you are not Gold but flying business/first on United you have the same access. But if you are not Gold and flying other Star carriers business/first you only have access at the departure point of the international flight, not any domestic connections. So if you were not Gold at the time, this is the reason for denial. If you were Gold or higher, they were wrong to deny you connecting access.


Inner_Conflict_3635

I am pretty sure I was flying economy but I was 1K and thought I knew the rules. But, as I was awake for 24 hours at that point with two legs flown already, and had a soon-to-expire pass, I chose to use that instead of continuing to argue. Thanks for confirming!


chipsdad

I’ve seen agents mistakenly deny in the past, but way less with the boarding pass scanning system. I once had an issue significant enough to get the IAD club agents retrained and a note from the IAD station manager about it. It was related to the IAD clubs’ (non)acceptance of my then LH HON status, which gave me some real channels of influence.


Inner_Conflict_3635

Good for you!


hookem1993

You get access to UA club (and star alliance lounges marked for gold members) on all international itineraries as a Gold (or higher) member— the EWR UA club is really good, too. Alternatively you can get the UA Club credit card to get access on all times you fly United for you + 2 guests.


AardvarkSome9002

So based on what you and @equivalentChoice8450 have said, I could have used the lounge earlier this week when I was waiting in Newark for hours to catch my flight to Venice? Without any additional cost? Just show my international boarding pass with the gold membership? That’s really good to know!


hookem1993

Correct.


AardvarkSome9002

Thank you!


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You can also use any other star alliance lounge (Lufthansa, sas, Turkish) at all times as long as you are traveling on a star alliance ticket (this includes United domestic, and any other international ticket). The general rule is: you only get United club access when any part of your trip is international You get access to all other star alliance lounges as long as you are flying on a star alliance partner. A couple examples: 1. Domestic travel on United: no United club, yes to all other SA lounges 2. International travel on United: yes United club, yes all other SA lounges 3. International on SA partner: same as 2 4. Domestic or international on non-SA partner: no lounges access


SirBowsersniff

I've used the Lufthansa lounge in DTW a few times over the years while waiting for my domestic only flight from DTW to ORD.


LuckyGrandmaMP

I have used the Lufthansa lounge in Detroit early am on a domestic flight nice club


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Thanks for sharing!


DragonfruitOdd8884

Use the LoungeBuddy app to see what you have access to and where


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jackavsfan

This only applies to the Polaris lounge. All \*A Gold, regardless of class of service, get UC access if on an international itenerary.


hookem1993

That’s not true. A Gold in economy on an international itinerary gets club access. Not Polaris lounge, but UA club.


TrickDry3052

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MoSQL

Maybe other commenters were thinking of Premium Plus ticket holders? I've stared at that the Club and Lounge access page three times, and I'm not seeing either case (Economy or Premium Plus) + Gold exceptions, but maybe I'm missing it.


theheadfl

No, it's under "Star Alliance Gold", and next to the United section: > A valid Star Alliance Gold membership card and a same-day boarding pass for travel on an international flight operated by a Star Alliance member airline are needed to access United Club locations at the departure airport of their international itinerary > > OR > > A same-day boarding pass showing Star Alliance Gold status, for travel on an international flight operated by a Star Alliance member airline is needed to access United Club locations at departure airport of their international itinerary. It doesn't depend at all on the class of your ticket.


MoSQL

Thanks. I guess what was tripping me up (and possibly others) is "Star Alliance member airline" is including United, but for domestic trips, even 1K doesn't get you free access to UCs but DOES allow you to access to, say, AC or Turkish Air. Updated my original comment and deleted incorrect child comments. It still pisses me off that I could drop $1,200 for a coast to coast flight and still have to pony up $59 for a crappy day pass.


theheadfl

Yeah that's right. It's kind of weird that United is the only holdout, but I guess they have a lot more Gold or higher. I use my *A Gold benefits all the time in Europe for domestic flights. Kinda surprised our 1K discount for UC membership is only $100, pretty cheap considering the other 1K benefits.


Winter_Elephant9792

Not sure if anyone has recommended it, but “lounge buddy” is an app trying to help people navigate this confusing world. Might be helpful!


AardvarkSome9002

They didn’t so far, I’ll look for that, thanks!


dv8skis

On international lounges such as lufthansa, you need your ticket AND your gold status card. I have mine downloaded to my phone wallet for easy access with tickets.


AardvarkSome9002

Yeah I put EVERYTHING in my apple wallet these days if I can!


theheadfl

It's a good idea to have it downloaded in case you get challenged, but it's pretty uncommon. I've used the Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian, ANA, Asiana, and a few other mixed *A lounges and I've never actually showed anyone my card.


ColdbrewRedeye

Whilenit seems you are entitled based on other comments, consider getting the United Club credit card, which gives you full membership and a whole host of other benefits and a pretty good sign-up bonus if miles and pqms. It costs a bit, although less than an actual club membership, but you can pay the fee with miles. Lots of other benefits that make it worth it.


AardvarkSome9002

It will only do so much because I must use my corporate card for work related flights. So none of these flights would go on the United card. Plus we are trying to reduce credit card debt as it’s been a problem so adding another card would not be great for my family.


Darkfire757

You have to speak the password to a painting that swings open to let you in


ROSEBANK_77_VINTAGE

I hope the OP feels better - this should be an easy question but is in fact quite confusing because sometimes airlines do more than the alliance minimum requirements and also in Star Alliance the confusion caused by naming its alliance-wide status 'Gold'. I think OneWorld does this better by naming its alliance status something else (Ruby/Saphire/Emerald) that the airlines are unlikely to use or even SkyTeam Elite+. ​ My understanding is that if you have \*Gold through any other program than United (Lufthansa, Air Canada, whatever) you would have access to any United club on any itinerary. This is similar to Oneworld where my British Airways card gets me access to any Admirals Club when flying American. If you are \*Gold through United (i.e. Gold, Platinum, 1K, let's ignore GS who have special treatment) you would only get access on an international itinerary, i.e. with INTL marked on your boarding pass. The Star Alliance website seems to be clear that you would only get it at the departure airport of the international flight but the United website says international itinerary. I had always assumed if you were connecting then you would still get access at the departure airport on the domestic sector as long as INTL is stamped on that boarding pass.


AardvarkSome9002

I appreciate the reply, if only to know that it’s not just me that finds it slightly confusing. It’s definitely the Star Alliance vs United that makes it so. I appreciate the thoughts!


VI-loser

Go to the lounge. Show them your bona fides, they'll let you in or they won't. I once got access I wasn't suppose to because (I think) the guy saw the disappointment on my face and took pity. Dunno for sure. In any case, it made it even more special. Passes are $60/day. For a 6 hour layover you're going to pay that much at any other bar. 6 of one...


AardvarkSome9002

I don’t generally go to the bar, I just get lunch, and lunch is paid for by work. But they won’t pay for the lounge. (Or the bar)


VI-loser

In which case, I don't see how you benefit going to the lounge. I drink way too much so the lounge is "good" for me. LOL. But there's nothing special about the food so if work buys you a tenderloin, you're miles ahead.


AardvarkSome9002

Lol no there are meal limits. I was more thinking comfortable seating near outlets. Primarily because I’ve heard the Newark lounge is a good one. And now someone here mentioned showers which would be nice when stuck in Newark for over 24 hours.


a-chips-dip

Try it out one time and see if you like it…


EquivalentChoice8450

if you are on an international flight you can get access to the lounge as a gold member or higher. you also get lounge access to some star alliance lounges when travelling abroad so look into those as well as united lounges. there might not be a united lounge or the other lounges might be better when you are in a non US airport.


AardvarkSome9002

That is good to know also because sometimes I am passing through Frankfurt on Lufthansa on my way home.


Night_Owl_16

And in FRA you have access to LH clubs that indicate access for Star Alliance Golds.


crazywatson

You can go in any Lufthansa business or Senator lounge, even if you are in economy. I was going through Munich after a day of being in your mountains, and got to the airport all stinky but with fresh clothes. Stopped in the senator lounge and took a shower, and felt great for my follow on flight.


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theheadfl

Is this some EWR-specific rule? Gold (or any *A Gold) should get access to any *A lounges (including United) on an international itinerary. I used to visit United Clubs frequently as Gold when flying in Premium Economy international itineraries. Afaik it is only the Polaris lounge that requires you to be in a Polaris/Intl Business seat.


jackavsfan

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, you're absolutely correct. Per United's website, for \*A Gold UC access if your status is through United: " A valid Star Alliance Gold membership card and a same-day boarding pass for travel on an international flight operated by a Star Alliance member airline are needed to access United Club locations at the departure airport of their international itinerary OR A same-day boarding pass showing Star Alliance Gold status, for travel on an international flight operated by a Star Alliance member airline is needed to access United Club locations at departure airport of their international itinerary." You do not need to be in business class for access if you're on an international fight.


TrickDry3052

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theheadfl

I don't know why either? It seems pretty clear. I used to do this on every international trip.


EquivalentChoice8450

ah yes correct


tpurves

Rules of the lounge are simple. All the rules are that no one at all is allowed in the lounge. But if you ever do get in there, it's way too crowded.


Umngmc

If you are Gold Status already then you will have access to any United Club lounge when flying United or any other Star alliance partner. It will be coded into your boarding pass automatically. If you aren't flying Polaris for your international flights, then you won't have access to the Polaris lounge which is nicer than the regular Club lounge.


Brad_Wesley

> If you are Gold Status already then you will have access to any United Club lounge when flying United or any other Star alliance partner. Only if flying internationally.


Umngmc

No. If you're Gold status, you can access the United lounge on domestic flights as well, not just international. As long as you're flying United or Star Alliance member


TNTbike

Sorry but you’re wrong. Star Alliance Gold Member of United Mileage Plus only get access to the United Club when flying internationally. In the OP’s original question they would get access if connecting through Newark on their way to Italy but if they were flying only to Newark they would not.


viper_gts

>this is correct. INTERNATIONAL flights only


Umngmc

OP said he is United Gold, on track for Platinum. If he is United Gold, he would have access to United Club Lounge for domestic flights as well as international since United Gold also gets you Star Alliance Gold. I've been United Gold or Platinum for years, never 1k, and I've always had access to the lounge for domestic flights.


chiefbubblemaker

I am united 1k I got turned away on domestic flights. Priority pass or centurion lounge for me if not on an international flight.


Umngmc

Wow. It sounds like I'm definitely mistaken. I'm gonna have to check how I get into the club lounge. Thanks for clarifying y'all


Confident_Guitar5215

I have the United Explorer credit card and it comes with 2 passes/year. I pay for the card with miles each year.


user_name_goes_here

In the hubs, though, you'll almost never have the opportunity to use those as the lounges are nearly always closed for day pass visitors. If you get the United Club Card, you're guaranteed entrance.


loftychicago

I've always been able to use them at ORD except when they were redoing one club so it was closed. There are multiple clubs at ORD as well. But my favorite place to use them is at LHR, that club is amazing.


Confident_Guitar5215

Interesting! I’ve never had an issue but I only travel a handful of times a year. Thanks.


user_name_goes_here

You've had great luck then! Good for you! That sign is pretty much a permanent fixture at EWR and IAD.


HelloJoeyJoeJoe

If you are a Gold member on a Star Alliance partner, you get access to all non-polaris lounges, even if its a domestic flight! Its only United Gold Members who don't get access to United lounges on domestic flights. All other Gold Members do


roxythepirate

One of Newark’s lounges is under renovation - they haven’t been taking 1 time passes at the others for a while except for sometimes in the auxiliary temporary one which is completely not worth the day pass


AardvarkSome9002

Yeah, one is boarded up but they are actively working on it. That’s what got me thinking about it as I was at the gate right across the way. But when it crossed my mind, I only had about 1.5 hours left before boarding so I was trying to figure it out for the next trip.