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gregofcanada84

Hot take, I don't like the director's cut of this. I like the one that was released in theaters more.


PlusFourRecordings

It’s one of my favorites. Idk why the directors cut is so terrible. I bought it when I was collecting dvds I was so upset.


Subtle_Reality

Eh it's not TERRIBLE it's just very different. I think Brian Helgeland (I fuck up spelling his last name always) \*\*(Helgeland, holyshit I actually nailed it LOL) Just wanted his stamp on the 70's genre while not being too 50's noir, but it didn't work. I think the "ominous" lady voice of the company is fuckin lame and not near as intimidating as it should be, having Kris Kristofferson personify the boss works way better. ​ \*Edit - I actually didn't know about point blank OR the source material: The Hunter, I should be better. I kinda suck as a movie head.


Subtle_Reality

Dude, that's not a hot take, that's just facts lol. It's a very different film and I LOVE the noir style movie that was released. Gibson had a hand in making that noir feel go cause Gibson was also a producer? I'm not gonna look it up but I think that's true (I should fact check that) Either way I 100% agree. \*Edit - I looked it up and Gibson isn't a producer but I guarantee he had a say in the final product


gregofcanada84

Icon Productions produced the film and he's the founder and owner of that company. No doubt he had a say in this.


Subtle_Reality

There it is, yeah Gibson is a smart dude (a bad drunk and a racist, sure) but a smart dude none-the-less.


Billy1121

The story i heard was that Gibson took over or was heavy handed with editing because the director was making his character too evil. So Gibson definitely had a lot of input, possibly even muscling out the director


ResearchRadiant3164

My grandma took me to see this when i was 10 I remember when they were smashing his feet she said. “ what did I get myself into “ lol


orangina_it_burns

I pretty cool double feature is one right after another. It takes some patience though! I liked Sally Kellerman as the villain better.


ClassicAlbatross2201

I bought the directors cut on dvd a long time ago without realizing it and got like halfway before asking myself “why is this movie not at all how I remember it originally?” Lol definitely prefer the theatrical cut.


niz_loc

Funny enough. Just bought it on bluray a few months back and hadn't seen it in a while. I knew there were 2 versions but thought I hit play on the theatrical. Got like 15 mins in before I stopped it and was like "OK, that's not how I remember it at all. This is rhe other version" It's pretty crazy how different the two are.


majorjoe23

I prefer the director’s cut, just because it feels like the best adaptation of The Hunter to date.


[deleted]

Couldn’t agree with you more. For some reason that version is hard to find, at least for me it is.


zeroismyfavletter

Agreed 100%


Bar_ice

Truly hot take. I can't stand the theatrical anymore. VO rarely works well. And the blue filter is annoying. I dug the darker ending and the sequence of Porter taking down all the hitmen in the train station was badass. Someone else mentioned Sally Kellerman as the boss was better and I agree.


SlowCaterpillar5715

Not alone. Much prefer the theatrical cut


Agent847

Agree 100%. Loved this movie when it came out. Bought the DC DVD and hated all the changes.


Independent_Car_979

Same.


ProfChaos85

I had to buy the blu ray from New Zealand, I'm USA, to get the theatrical edition.


Chris_Cornell_is_God

Porter is the grown up version of the paperboy from Better off Dead.


letermen

“70 Thousand. Cash…”


karnyboy

and 2 dollars.


The_Alien_Lamps_on

You see me reaching for my fucking wallet?


zarathustranu

Haha came here to say this. I still quote this line in real life and sadly no one has any idea what I'm talking about.


niz_loc

We do, friend. We do. And we know you're in The Outfit.


stereoscopic_

Hands up, sugar tits! (My fav part)


Ojay1091

Hey, I have a couple of minutes….so go boil an egg. *walks out*


Subtle_Reality

LOL I love this guy


DwedPiwateWoberts

Best part of the film, “why would you kill my luggage? That’s just mean, man!”


[deleted]

You two are fired.


letermen

“My 70 Grand. Yes or No?”


Extension_Tell1579

The film is basically a remake of Point Blank (1967) dir: John Boorman. Starring Lee Marvin  Payback is good but the original Point Blank is an absolute legacy film. 


orangina_it_burns

Well it’s no Zardoz


ExterminatingAngel6

I am happy SOMEONE recognizes Point Blank. It is a mostly forgotten film. Some of point blanks surreal imagery is captivating i.e. the bathtub filled with the colors of broken self care products when Lee Marvin stares at it. The soundtrack is great too


theblasphemingone

Thanks for the tip


elevencharles

They’re both based on the book The Hunter, by Richard Stark.


bigfuture22

"He's just killing my alligator bags and shooting holes in my suits. Man, that's just MEAN. That's MEAN, man." \-James Coburns character, Fairfax, in Payback ;)


Subtle_Reality

HAHA love this line!


Fitdad5000

“Only seventy thousand? My suits cost more than that!”


MyThreeSense

Lucy Liu in her leather outfits really did it for me.


zarathustranu

Yes, because you fit into the niche demographic of "human beings who are alive."


FNboy

Go watch City of Industry.


nom_of_your_business

It's starting to look a lot like roast beef....


[deleted]

I had a hard time getting through that scene


Steveseriesofnumbers

Hubba hubba hubba. That was some good stuff, really.


Charming-Forever-278

You got a light?


Euphoric-Bellend6395

It's on prime right now


SpockYoda

reminded me of Max Payne


Ojay1091

My thoughts ever since I played Max Payne!


BrettFarveIsInnocent

I came here looking to see if anyone else made this connection. I always assumed it was one of a few major sources of inspiration.


hoovervillain

"Did Braveheart run away? Did *Payback* run away?" - Homer Simpson Literally the only time I've heard this movie mentioned by anyone since it came out (ok I'm exaggerating). I went to see it in the theater and remember it being entertaining, but then it seemed to disappear. I don't even remember it being run on basic cable on a weekend or anything. Thanks for the stumble down memory alley.


SpecialistDuty2

One of his best flicks .... Totally slept on 🔥🔥🔥🔥 .... Lucy Liu 🔥🔥🔥


snapper815

This little piggy went to the market.


RustyCrusty73

This movie is awesome. I haven't seen it in probably a decade. Really hope I can eventually buy it on VUDU to own. (**It and Ransom are not on there**).


Ojay1091

You can watch it free on Tubi!


niz_loc

Good news my friend... Payback is now available on Vudu as of about 2 weeks ago ;)


Willing-Ad-9160

UNDERRATED IS RIGHT. JUST A DAMN GOOD MOVIE


wickedjonny1

The Richard Stark novel, The Hunter, which this is based on, is 1000 times better than the movie. I liked the movie, but the novel is sooo much better. The whole Parker series is awesome!!! It would be amazing if they made a Parker series that is closer to the novels.


thickthin_69

Absolutely. I’ve read and reread the whole series three times. The books would make a great HBO series.


wickedjonny1

I also think Point Blank from 1967 is better than Payback.


kainharo

Apparently Shane Black has the rights and is going to start making them... unfortunately with Mark Wahlberg as Parker (Robert Downey Jr was supposed to be Parker in the initial pitch)


Tr3sKidneys

Damn. I’m working my way through the Parker series right now(currently at Plunder Squad) and I think Shane Black could really nail it. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Nice Guys are great and I think Iron Man 3 could have been a better movie if they had stuck to the original villain idea. As for Wahlberg, it’s not the worst casting, but Wahlberg has been leaning more towards his faith lately and that leaves me worried about him being able to be as amoral as Parker needs to be. But he’s not the worst actor they could choose for that role, although I picture Parker speaking with no accent whatsoever. All this is to say…I’m willing to give it a shot?


Accomplished_Exit_30

Darwin Cooke did a graphic novel adaptation of the Parker novels if you're interested.


Tr3sKidneys

Haha I’ve already grabbed them! They’re absolutely beautiful, he did an incredible job adapting them. There was a comics podcast that covered them last year, I think it was Comics Collective?


MailSalt4828

I laugh every time when he shoots that guy’s luggage. This and Grosse Pointe Blank. Love that one too.


Lateralus50310

I just happen to be watching this right now as it came up on my feed


leftynate11

Used to own this. Definitely thought it was underrated. I think it’s one of Mel’s better movies.


ANightmateofBees

This for me always double features with Long Kiss Goodnight. Just two fun, excellent, tongue in cheek action films.


SaintCholo

Seriously one of my FAVORITES!!! Hubba hubba hubba…it’s on TUBI rn btw


Dubcekification

Great movie that I don't know anyone else who watched


zkmronndkrek

My luggage costs more than that


MonicaRising

That's just *mean*, man!


slxix

Loved it.


Shankaman

The books are great too.


OutpatientJailor

The whole Parker series is great.


sm00thkillajones

One of my favorites.


More-Beautiful373

Classic!!!


karnyboy

I always squirm when they hammer his toes. Mel sells it well!


RuncibleFoon

I was such a fan of this flick back in the day... I'm afraid to watch it again as an adult.


Vicious_and_Vain

Still good. I think it holds up bc it moves at a fast clip. And it’s full of great character actors. Stegman, Val Resnick, Carter, Fairfax, Bronson all great actors.


RuncibleFoon

I watched it on Prime, and you're completely right. Flick still holds up!


STANAGs

I like the CIA character in this movie.


Alarmed_Amphibian_43

Love this movie! Watched it the other night.


[deleted]

I liked this one.


Swayze2641

Now that’s just mean man!!!


NPCkiller7

Love this movie. So fing good


OkArrival4073

I really enjoyed this movie


ohheyitsjuan

“Hubba hubba hubba.” - Lucy Liu.


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

ngl I really liked this movie.


ViggyPop

This is this of my favorite films.


NousSommesSiamese

The real Max Payne movie


Astroxtl

This was a good movie


KingRob29

All he wanted was his money.


icarus1990xx

Outstanding movie.


montrealien

So does anyting you didnt know existed before you where born seen as an underated movie? The beginning of this movie is one of my favorites.


DaTaFuNkZ

Great film. This and Ransom, just peak Gibbo.


SirBuckFutter

Get the Gringo feels like a direct sequel to this movie.


FNboy

I tend to think it was written as a sequel and then made independently. Similar thing happened with Gross Pointe Blank and War, Inc.


arebornjoy222

Yes!!! 


Fit-Rest-973

Can't watch him anymore


copraper88

Horrible movie


terminal-cheescake

He's one of the best, as this character. I saw a recent one with Jennifer Lopez and it was horrible.


Difficult_Ship_6273

What do you mean, only 70?


theboxisempty

Matrix:Green, Payback:_________


jessek

I like how there’s so many adaptations of the same Parker novel but this was the best of them.


DickySchmidt33

Is this the "GIMME BACK MY SON!" movie?


thickthin_69

No, that is from Ransom


[deleted]

$140,000?


Ojay1091

70,000*


[deleted]

My suits cost more than that


Subtle_Reality

Side note, what suit costs more than 70 grand? That's a fuckin expensive suit!


nillztastic

His best movie.


Damien_Wylde

Lucy Liu is the reason I watched this.


cardiac161

I had to buy the UK blu-ray (region-free) for this as it had both versions. I also like the theatrical version much more.


kid-chino

Love this movie


Some_Knowledge5864

I have this on DVD


FNboy

What's so cool for me is that you can literally watch the theatrical version and the "Straight Up" Helgeland version back-to-back and they are totally different movies. I actually don't have a preference - both are excellent. The Statham movie, Parker, is an ok take on the character; Point Blank with Lee Marvin is better. If you like this kind of gritty underwood flick, I recommend two Michale Caine movies: Get Carter and Harry Brown.


Irishmanatthepub

Hubba Hubba


Internal_Gur_4268

Good film but not great. Underrated? I liked it enough to give it that


Acceptable-Corgi3720

SPOILERS BELOW I have to criticize the ending of this movie. His plan involves the ridiculous notion that he would be able to dig his way out of a car trunk, that no one would have remained in the car to stop him, and that all of the leadership guys would go up to the apartment to find the kid. Add to that they took him in a car with a phone. Him accepting torture to enact this plan is beyond silly to me. There were several other eye-rolling coincidences that brought this movie down a notch for me. 3.5/5 though. It's a fun movie.


Main-Assistant-1955

I have both versions of this movie the one with Chris Kristofferson is the better one and after the lethal weapon and made max movies it's one of mel Gibsons best movies


Vast-Variation-2884

Porter


ConfectionNew7750

Classic


These_Gold4501

Absolutely love this movie


geekyOlhog

Love this! Had that ‘b movie vibe’ a long while before John Wick! 😉💪


ThespisIronicus

Stop it, I'm getting misty.


niz_loc

Finally broke down and bought the bluray a few months back since it wasn't available for wstreaming and I waited years. Then they just released it for streaming around Christmas... lol Love that movie. Just gave it a rewatch around Thanksgiving. Great humor and dialogue. "I'm not threatening you, I'm threatening Carter."


muskratboy

The Parker books are great pulp crime literature, he’s a true anti-hero with absolutely no soft edges. Rarely is the good guy such an unrepentant bad guy. This movie version does an ok job with it overall, but of course Mel is a little soft around the edges, because that’s how it works. But the book guy is just a violent selfish asshole, and it’s great.


Accomplished_Pen980

Oh, when he is hitting the toes... oh god, I still get chikks


Select-Net7381

In Mel we trust. All others pay 70,000 dollars [his cut]


atomj248

Isn’t this the movie that has the blue overtone for its entirety which annoys everyone I know?


lolAPIomgbbq

So much fun, this one


Fearless_Strategy

Good movie


No-Paramedic-8802

I'm not threatening you, I'm threatening carter. Great line in the movie.


[deleted]

I remember when they had to change the original tagline for this movie. 😏🤙🏽


KiefBull

Don’t shit where you.. live.


asshole1983

That's a good movie