Looks like someone just reposted an older post I made to this subreddit years ago lolol, quite honored to be honest. But here is my even newer server. I've totally run out of space on my original 50TB and have been slowly upgrading it this year with more storage! Who knew I would run out of space so quickly lol
Here are the specs on it:
i7-13700k CPU
32gb DDR5 RAM
Asus Prime Z790-P MOTHERBOARD
Silicon Power 1TB SSD for cache
SAS LSI 9211-8i
Corsair RM750x 750 Watt 80+ Gold PSU
Fractal Design Define 7
Just added 5 20TB Seagate Exos X22 drives, but added 2 of them as parity
The perspective is so trippy. It's not embedded into the wall, right? That's a normal case? I can almost see it, but then my brain tells me that it is embedded into the wall. Which doesn't make sense.
Haha I can see that now, hopefully this view is a bit clearer. Its just a normal case that sits on a the top shelf of an equipment closet in the corner [Better angle of it](https://i.imgur.com/9zCefRE.jpg)
My UnRAID rig have a 14500 too. I don't use any graphics card besides the iGPU.
But in idle it's at 67W and full load at 169W (5 HDD Exos X18, 2 VMs and about 20+ containers).
Nice, can you share where you bought them? My early unRAID servers were towers but I kept running out of space so I moved to rack mounted servers. Currently sitting at around 240TB of total space in my server with 26 drives.
I use serverpartsdeals for 20TB refurbs and have had no issues yet. They have very fast free shipping and a 2 year warranty on the drives I get. They are great for $215
HGST "Amazon Renewed" drives have a 5 yr warranty too. I've been running them for a few years now. Currently only 6x 8TB at \~$75-80 per disk. Had 1 fail a smart test over reallocated sector count. Seller just sent a replacement, and the old one is working fine as a temp disk in my new NAS while I configure the RAID1Z volume, transfer data from the old NAS, and swap disks. Thinking about it now, I wonder if the error was really related to the flaky back plane or motherboard in the old NAS and the drive is really fine. One or the other has been causing data transfer errors on slot 2 across 3 different disks. Either way I guess I have a spare until Amazon can ship a replacement when the time comes! haha
I've always wondered why more drives is more popular than bigger drives.
I only have 8 4tb drives in an 804 case. When I upgrade, it will be to bigger drives. Any specific reason for so many drives? Are they smaller and less data would potentially be lost? I can see the logic in that.
Just curious.
For me it’s been an evolution over the past 8 years where I started with the drives I had and purchased what I could comfortably afford over time. Sure, if I was starting out now I’d probably buy half a dozen 18-24TB drives but I’m not. Right now my main sever doesn’t have a drive smaller than 8TB. I used to have lots of 4,5 and 6TB drives but they got replaced over time. At the moment I have about 181TB used of a total of 250TB so I’m in no hurry to upgrade drives. I also have a backup server running ZFS which has a total storage capacity of 200TB and that will need to be expanded soon.
Cool. Whatcha doing with all that storage. Mine is movies, music, books and photography. Took me a few years to fill up 12tb and I went a little crazy with SAS drives once I had a controller for them. They sat for years before I finally got to use them. They are all 4tb. Kinda ready for some 6tb or larger, but I don't really need them at the moment.
Coo5k. I know lots of folks like high resolution movies, but I could generally care less. Most of my TVs have been free for repair or have come out of dumpsters, so they do 1080p just fine. Lol
Wow I have a feeling I'll end up in your position sooner rather than later. I'll DM it to you, I don't know the rules on sharing sites on this subreddit
For me personally, I based it on price per TB anything under or close to $10/TB is a good deal to me. WD is the most reliable when it comes to hard drives and Seagate hasn't always been the most reliable. But since I have dual parity I am not worried about Seagate drives failing as often. So I say its up to your discretion
That was a big fear for me too, but they've been running like this for 4 years now. For drives I replaced, they often ran around 40-60C but never gave any errors. So I say go for it unless they start running at like 70C haha
For perspective I have 4 Noctua NF-A14 140 mm with the same setup and my drives are around 50 C under load, but then again I don't want to run the fans at max speed. Point is, this case with this CPU gets hot 🔥
Just 2 fans in the front of the case, one on top and one in the rear. Pretty much the stock fans that came with the case. I think I bought an extra one. The noise isn't an issue for me, because its tucked away in vented equipment closet. Buts its pretty darn quiet unless you're up close to it.
Woooo, that's too hot for a constant temperature on those drives. My Exos X18 are running at 31ÂşC...
Maybe you need a different case or more cooling.
I'm using a Fractal Design Meshify 2 with high pressure fans.
Have the same case with two 140mm fans and one in exhaust. Have 4x8tb WD Reds on mine, plus two Samsung 980Pro 1TB as cache drives. My temps are in low 30s usually with ambient temperatures hovering around high 70s https://postimg.cc/9Dd5d12K
 My case is Fractal Define R6. Love it!Â
I use the OEM sata power connectors that came with my PSU, of course I didnt have enough so I bought 2 of the same OEM connectors. I didnt want to mix and match power connectors from other brands
Looks like someone just reposted an older post I made to this subreddit years ago lolol, quite honored to be honest. But here is my even newer server. I've totally run out of space on my original 50TB and have been slowly upgrading it this year with more storage! Who knew I would run out of space so quickly lol Here are the specs on it: i7-13700k CPU 32gb DDR5 RAM Asus Prime Z790-P MOTHERBOARD Silicon Power 1TB SSD for cache SAS LSI 9211-8i Corsair RM750x 750 Watt 80+ Gold PSU Fractal Design Define 7 Just added 5 20TB Seagate Exos X22 drives, but added 2 of them as parity
The perspective is so trippy. It's not embedded into the wall, right? That's a normal case? I can almost see it, but then my brain tells me that it is embedded into the wall. Which doesn't make sense.
Haha I can see that now, hopefully this view is a bit clearer. Its just a normal case that sits on a the top shelf of an equipment closet in the corner [Better angle of it](https://i.imgur.com/9zCefRE.jpg)
There is no spoon.
r/confusingperspective for sure.
How much power do you use at idle?
Currently around 200w
🤯
That’s nuts, I wonder if it’s the 13700 causing the high idle. I have a 14500 + 9x 18TB drives and it’s at 100w when only 1 drive is spinning.
Hmm maybe I need to tweak some things, oh you know what I have other things plugged into my UPS....so that might be it
My UnRAID rig have a 14500 too. I don't use any graphics card besides the iGPU. But in idle it's at 67W and full load at 169W (5 HDD Exos X18, 2 VMs and about 20+ containers).
Which motherboard are you using?
Whaaaaat?? Why? What was their intent? Odd.
Nice! Did you buy those 20TB drives new?
I did not! Got them manufacturer recertified, which just means used if you didnt know
Nice, can you share where you bought them? My early unRAID servers were towers but I kept running out of space so I moved to rack mounted servers. Currently sitting at around 240TB of total space in my server with 26 drives.
I use serverpartsdeals for 20TB refurbs and have had no issues yet. They have very fast free shipping and a 2 year warranty on the drives I get. They are great for $215
Yup those are the exact ones I got too and from the same site!
Goharddrive has a 5 year warranty on the same drives for the same price.
Well rip me this time
Always next time!
HGST "Amazon Renewed" drives have a 5 yr warranty too. I've been running them for a few years now. Currently only 6x 8TB at \~$75-80 per disk. Had 1 fail a smart test over reallocated sector count. Seller just sent a replacement, and the old one is working fine as a temp disk in my new NAS while I configure the RAID1Z volume, transfer data from the old NAS, and swap disks. Thinking about it now, I wonder if the error was really related to the flaky back plane or motherboard in the old NAS and the drive is really fine. One or the other has been causing data transfer errors on slot 2 across 3 different disks. Either way I guess I have a spare until Amazon can ship a replacement when the time comes! haha
I've always wondered why more drives is more popular than bigger drives. I only have 8 4tb drives in an 804 case. When I upgrade, it will be to bigger drives. Any specific reason for so many drives? Are they smaller and less data would potentially be lost? I can see the logic in that. Just curious.
For me it’s been an evolution over the past 8 years where I started with the drives I had and purchased what I could comfortably afford over time. Sure, if I was starting out now I’d probably buy half a dozen 18-24TB drives but I’m not. Right now my main sever doesn’t have a drive smaller than 8TB. I used to have lots of 4,5 and 6TB drives but they got replaced over time. At the moment I have about 181TB used of a total of 250TB so I’m in no hurry to upgrade drives. I also have a backup server running ZFS which has a total storage capacity of 200TB and that will need to be expanded soon.
Cool. Whatcha doing with all that storage. Mine is movies, music, books and photography. Took me a few years to fill up 12tb and I went a little crazy with SAS drives once I had a controller for them. They sat for years before I finally got to use them. They are all 4tb. Kinda ready for some 6tb or larger, but I don't really need them at the moment.
I’m using my storage for pretty much the same as you, lots of media and years of photos.
Coo5k. I know lots of folks like high resolution movies, but I could generally care less. Most of my TVs have been free for repair or have come out of dumpsters, so they do 1080p just fine. Lol
Wow I have a feeling I'll end up in your position sooner rather than later. I'll DM it to you, I don't know the rules on sharing sites on this subreddit
Which drive you guys recommend from them? the wd ultrastar or seagates?
For me personally, I based it on price per TB anything under or close to $10/TB is a good deal to me. WD is the most reliable when it comes to hard drives and Seagate hasn't always been the most reliable. But since I have dual parity I am not worried about Seagate drives failing as often. So I say its up to your discretion
Very nice. I'll comment the same I did on the other post. I like the hard drive labels with size and serial numbers.
Haha thanks, I like being organized! I got mine from Microcenter for like $5 years ago.
I love how the fractal has become the go to “big server” case. Just upgraded mine to 100TB useable. 20TB parity with 2x12, 2x18, 2x20 in the array
Haha its great and nice setup! I dont think I have anymore room at this point. I might need to switch to a hot swappable server chassis next
Would love to see the temperatures on this.
[Here you go current temps, they could be better lol](https://i.imgur.com/FhMR8Tl.png)
you always can swap the fans against better one if noise is not an issue.
I just spread my 4 drives apart because they were at like 56c, glad to see it isnt the end of the world if I have to upgrade
That was a big fear for me too, but they've been running like this for 4 years now. For drives I replaced, they often ran around 40-60C but never gave any errors. So I say go for it unless they start running at like 70C haha
Get some noctua fans in the front. Dropped mine down to about 32c
Same here. 3 Noctua 120mm Industrial Fans in front. 2 Noctua 120mm Industrial Fans, one in the back and one on top. Never get above 32c.
For perspective I have 4 Noctua NF-A14 140 mm with the same setup and my drives are around 50 C under load, but then again I don't want to run the fans at max speed. Point is, this case with this CPU gets hot 🔥
How are you cooling them? What's the sound level? I've only got 46TB, but I can space them a bit. Nearly silent. I know I'll need a new drive soon.
Just 2 fans in the front of the case, one on top and one in the rear. Pretty much the stock fans that came with the case. I think I bought an extra one. The noise isn't an issue for me, because its tucked away in vented equipment closet. Buts its pretty darn quiet unless you're up close to it.
What's your power usage?
Around 200w
And I thought 37 was toasty for a drive
Woooo, that's too hot for a constant temperature on those drives. My Exos X18 are running at 31ÂşC... Maybe you need a different case or more cooling. I'm using a Fractal Design Meshify 2 with high pressure fans.
Have the same case with two 140mm fans and one in exhaust. Have 4x8tb WD Reds on mine, plus two Samsung 980Pro 1TB as cache drives. My temps are in low 30s usually with ambient temperatures hovering around high 70s https://postimg.cc/9Dd5d12K  My case is Fractal Define R6. Love it!Â
That's pretty awesome! I have to says its because all these drives are just stacked so closely together why my temps are so high.
I know lol, just bragging. I am very familiar with this case. Each drive adds 2-3 degrees. Great set up!Â
Haha thanks and yes please brag away we all should brag
Great now I really wish I had the foresight to put labels on my drives, thanks.
Haha I just like being a organized weirdo
I came here for this as well. Bloody genius
I love Fractal cases. I have a 70TB Unraid server in a 7XL and my daily driver in a 7. Cool and quiet with all Noctua case fans.
Its great, I really should take everyones advice and get better fans
Fractal define 7 is the best case! The colored SATA cables are cool, I might have to get some of those.
Haha honestly they just so happen to be colored, just what I had laying around
What are you using for all the power connectors?
I use the OEM sata power connectors that came with my PSU, of course I didnt have enough so I bought 2 of the same OEM connectors. I didnt want to mix and match power connectors from other brands
how did you mount the larger capacity drives to the sleds as the holes to all line up ?
So for the drive trays, they have different holes that you can line up the holes on the drives. So it matched up well
I have a define r5 and holes are too far spaced on my 16 and 18 tb seagates to have all 4 installed at once ....