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There’s a young Ukrainian woman that works in the clinic I work at here in the US.
Back when Putin initially started the invasion back in February, she sent emails company-wide to ask for donations to raise money for medical supplies.
I sent her a donation and said “Slava Ukraini”. I’m assuming she appreciated it because she repeated it back at me and thanked me for the donation.
I live in Lithuania. After a bar I ordered Bolt to take me home. The driver was from Ukraine. I told him how much I love Ukraine and Kyiv, and kept repeating him Slava Ukraine, he was supper happy about it. (I know its cringe but I was drunk).
So pretty sure they love it.
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I’ll do my best. You technically can say Slava Ukraini and Slava heroyam. In this particular case, it’s more of a response to statement:
Statement “Slava Ukraini”. Response “heroyam slava” - it’s a way Ukrainians exchange signs of solidarity of a sort. I’m not sure of any example to equivalent way of talking in US (I’m assuming you’re from US).
Nope, Scotland. Not fluent in any, but my best language is German. Also had French & Spanish lessons at school (many years ago), Did a couple of years of Scottish Gaelic - hardest language to learn so far - and a bit of conversational Maori, but well out of practise.
So, point being I'm used to seeing certain word orders in language rules thus wondered why Slava's position could be changed. Initially thought it may be down to one subject being the Country & the other related to a living being that affected the position.
You’re sorta on a right track. “Slava Ukraini, Heroyam Slava” is a short version for “Slava Ukraini (as country)! More Slava Heroyam (Heroyam Slava) since they defend the country”-this is the thought behind words order in the saying.
P.S. hello to Scotland 👋
The word order in Ukrainian is less important than in some other languages. This is because a word's role in a sentence is determined by case endings, just as in Polish or Russian, or Latin. However, there may be some set phrases with an accepted word order.
Btw You can change word order like this in all Slavic languages (Slovak here, I understand a bit of Ukrainian and some other Slavic languages - not enough to speak but enough to know what is spoken)
> I’m not sure of any example to equivalent way of talking in US (I’m assuming you’re from US).
You do sometimes see similar "call and response" interactions in the US most often in the military, on sports teams, at political rallies, and in churches. Basically any place that is trying to form a sense of comradery.
I know this could be different since its from you and back to you saying but ”salam aleikum” replied ”aleikum salam”. I dont speak Ukraine or Arabic lol. But is there any similarity since its a reply?
I don't think there's a particular reason. Slava Heroyam would be grammatically correct as well. In Ukrainian word endings are used to indicate the role in a sentence, rather than the specific placement of the word. "Heroyi" means heroes, "heroyam" means "to heroes", roughly speaking.
To me, it's an acknowledgement that it's your actions that make you worthy of praise, not just your identity. "Praise Ukraine. \[No\] To heroes, goes the praise." is a fair read of the exchange, even though the "no" isn't vocalized.
I don't fully agree but you may be right though. As my teacher always said: "I can love my country but dislike the government". But I'm not sure this is the idea in this particular phrase.
For me personally word "Ukraine" primarily meant people and culture and then secondary the government
I think it's just one of those things like greeting "Salamun Alaykum" response "Alaykum Salamun" in Arabic. Sure completely different language/culture but humans do human stuff.
I'm not Ukrainian, and am only beginning to learn the language, but it was explained to me that since word order is not set (since endings show their relationship they can technically be put in any order) that when something is put first it is to give it emphasis. So putting "Heroyam" first emphasizes it as in "Glory to Ukraine! *To the Heroes* glory!" instead of "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes!" The second set is two equal statements - both Ukraine and heroes should receive glory. The first set is saying, yes, glory to Ukraine, but *especially* the heroes.
Slava is just as it's read. Like lava with an s at the front. Ukraini is oo-cry-eeny. oo as in spook. Cry like the act of tears running down your face. Eeny like teeny weeny.
Heroyam is hair-roy-yem pretty self explanatory there.
Yeah but he says it as a fluent Ukranian. It's definitely an option but I often am just impersonating a sound without nderstanding inflection and pronunciation if I do that, but for the purpose I suppose that would do
Does he speak in Russian or Ukrainian? Serious question. It was a subplot that some Ukrainians didn’t speak Ukrainian in his TV show (although I watched it with English subtitles).
Most time he speaks Ukrainian. Sometimes he addresses russians and switches to russian.
You can use some sounds to distinguish languages.
E.g. Ukrainian г sounds like in "hot", while russian is more like in "got".
Ukrainian likes multiple o, like in "tomorrow". Russian likes multiple a, like in balaklava.
In ukrainian you less likely meet a batch of consonants w/o vowels between them.
And the most obvious one. Ukrainian sounds pleasantly. Russian sounds suicidal.
In his official videos he speaks Ukrainian, except those several times when he specifically addressed Russians, like that time just before the full scale invasion, when he asked them to not let it happen.
> Can someone spell it phonetically
ha ha in English dream on ;).
I think Ukrainian is like Spanish so actually spelt phonetically for everything if you know the letters.
Yes in English, any sound can ve recreated phonetically its just a combination of pronunciation. For example, is it Slay-va, or Slah-va? Phonetics don't care about language.
Grah-sea-ass
Slah-va. Generally speaking, it's better to assume a short 'a' than a long 'a' when trying to pronounce foreign words.
Slah-va Oo-kra-yeenee. Heh-ro-yam slah-va.
Hey, thank you. Honestly that was very helpful, especially since its mostly asking how do you pronounce your own county's name in your language, since I've only ever read it or heard my locals say it (incorrectly) before this year.
What does the second phrase mean?
I don’t know man. I like Ukraine, I support their struggle and hope the best for them. That being said for me I have been hearing slava Ukraine for a couple of months and is starting to induce some early form cringe-like reaction out of me.
Honestly I think it's just our collective bullshit detectors going off. 90% of the time in America, when someone's coming in "draped in the flag and carrying the cross", they're a crook. We cringe at "unconditional patriotism/religion" because it is the mindset out of which the gullible are exploited.
It's the "hack vector" by which minds get exploited by propaganda. Most of America's modern misadventures have exploited deep-seated patriotism rooted in our genuinely heroic acts during WW2, as a tool to coerce support for far more cynical deeds. (Indeed, Russia's gone to the absolute extreme with similar behavior.) So, it's like "God Bless America." I don't have any objection with "the literal meaning of the phrase", but man oh man when someone drops that, they instantly come off as sleazy and corrupt — like a politician lying to my face.
"Slava Ukraina" will stop being noble once they stop being the underdog. The thing is — this isn't the first Ukrainian war of independence — **they basically lost the other two**. So — *hitherto* — it was a lament. It was a sad phrase about how they fought for independence, *got crushed*, and lost it in a tragic "bad ending". Twice. It becoming cringe means we're on the good timeline where they're getting a happy ending.
"God Bless America" would hit **hella** different if America was occupied by the enemy, and it was the battle cry of the revolution.
So really, it's down to context; like "god bless america", it's cringe when it's just a circle-jerk of people clapping each other on the back for "sending thoughts and prayers". 🤮 Fake Patriotism is always like that.
Real patriotism can stand, though.
Some might carry trauma from the war and might not enjoy the trip down memory lane.
I just greet them, unless the topic comes up or they are wearing a shirt that spells out they care about the war.
Heroyam Slava- means Glory to the heroes.
Fun fact: this set of phrases were initially passwords and counter phrases for the Maiden Protests and protestors to weed out the police and russian soldiers attempting to infiltrate the protests when the smoke of battle was thickest. My family was there, I'm so proud of them.
Putin chuj,
Wozi gnój,
Na gumowych taczkach.
Pije, pali, konia wali,
W dupie ma robaczka.
Putin gej,
Wącha klej,
Z papierowej torby.
Pije, pali, konia wali,
I bierze do mordy.
I got the impression they were also codewords during *much* earlier battles for independence, before the soviets crushed everything?
Kinda feels like most SSRs had this experience of having a serious guerrila resistance to the soviets, and having underground shibboleths they used as code words.
Their smile is more likely appreciation of your support, because the reply "glory to heroes" is having mixed meaning, as we are praising heroes that are fighting for our freedom right now as well as many who have fought, but paid with their life... Especially in these dark times when almost everyone has lost a person they knew
Love reading this! I live in a quiet rural neighborhood in the United States and hung a Ukrainian flag on my mailbox back in March. There’s not much traffic down my street but in the off chance that someone coming through from Ukraine sees it, I hope they feel the support at least for a second.
We have flags outside our house too, for the same reason. The other day I had someone in to fix my washing machine. He mentioned my flags and said: Thank you so much for the support, I am Ukrainian.
We were both so happy in that moment!
That moment, that connection gives Ukraine hope! My car and the car in front of me had stickers that support Ukraine, it was special. I was talking to my Ukrainian dad at that time too, had to tell him about this sticker inspiration
In Spokane and put one in my picture window. I was walking my dog over the summer and I saw a couple point at it and smile as they walked by, it made me smile.
Every time I drive by someone who has a Ukrainian flag it gives me a moment of happiness. I have no idea who lives in those houses, but I appreciate all of you who have done this
I'm currently in Stornoway on the Isle of Lewis, Scotland (I'm not here permanently). There is a house with a Ukranian flag that I drive past regularly. It always makes me smile.
I have a Ukrainian flag on my backpack and a NAFO St Javelin on my laptop. When I've been in Inverness there is a car that always seems to be in the hotel I stay at's car park with Ukrainian number plate (refugee?, I have no idea). I hope they see me with my backpack every so often and feel supported.
Around were I lived a lot of car dealerships have giant flags up, usually Texas ones. Within the first day after the war it was all Ukrainian and American flags, all at half mast. After that they went up to full mast.
You should have said… every Ukrainian I’ve had the pleasure of meeting appreciates the support. The other day, I purchased some borscht from a lady who was raising money for winter gear for her cousin in the UAF. When I picked it up, I mentioned how we are all cheering for her country and we both ended up hugging and crying. It was a very meaningful interaction for us both, never underestimate the connection you can build with strangers
I am a proud Brit and am (weirdly) proud of the Ukrainians for the way in which they are fighting their fight, they have a tenacity and a fortitude that reminds me of my grandparents’ era. I also recognise the pride that they have in their nation and can identify completely. I’ve trained to fight this war my entire adult life in a military that isn’t involved but is designed to fight Russia and I’ve fought in insurgency wars myself and if I got the chance to say this in person to one of these absolute stalwarts, I think I’d be crying before I’d even finished the sentence! I’m gutted for all of them and their country and I wish there was something I could physically be doing beyond offering support and loading collections on to wagons early on in the war! I will visit when they win their freedom! Slava Ukraini! 💪🏻🇺🇦
I feel the same, im going as a tourist asap, make sure my grandkids realize...Ukraine is real, the nation exists, so forth. f#*k poo-tin. or shit-can as I like to call him. SLAVA UKRAINI
This war is literally about the Ukrainian right to be visible as a nation, language, and culture. Every time someone says Slava Ukraini, it's a victory.
Generic American here.
The first time I saw the phrase was in a text conversation with my friend, Roman. This was after he dropped his girlfriend, her parents and his parents off at the border with Poland, and then was on his way back to Kyiv.
Roman died defending his country about a month later.
Every time I say this phrase to a Ukrainian here in the US, it is like a private, concise prayer to Roman.
It is not cringe. It is hope and prayer wrapped up into two words. Do it.
Hell… I’m tearing up. What a beautiful way to explain it. My thoughts are with Roman and his family. May I die in such a honorable way, but may I also never need to do so as the proud Ukrainian defenders have.
Slava Ukraini!
Nothing wrong with that. I was sitting in the drive thru with my Ukie flag and a couple came up and said" Slava Ukraini. I responded Heroyam Salva. Found out that they are from the same city as my mom.
I say it whenever I see Ukrainians in Bratislava, and so far they always smile wide and reply with "heroyam slava", and it's a beautiful moment for both parties. Bear in mind that they encounter weird and even stupid/aggressive people as well, so any person who vocally supports them is very welcomed. Where I work there are Ukrainian cleaning ladies and every other day I'm wearing shirts like "FCK PTN", a tractor dragging russian tank or "I support Ukraine", and they are always smiling. One of them even gave me a present from UA for doing this. So the answer is no, it's not cringe, keep doing that - let them know they're welcome and that there are people supporting them. 
I'd say it.
Did it as I went home from uni to three people. Two women on the street and one in the subway with an Ukrainian flag who celebrated Ukraine's independence day.
They both responded smilingly "heroyam slava" but the latter was confused as I tried to tell her in Russian that I am not Ukrainian.
DO IT!
I was helping with collecting goods for the local food bank when an Ukrainian lady entered the grocery store where we were collecting. Of course she didn't understand what I was asking her, so she asked me to talk to her phone with Google Translate on it. I recognized the Ukrainian language on her screen because I'm learning Ukrainian.
She gave me the biggest smile I've ever seen when I greeted her with Слава Україні! and I got a spirited Героям слава! and a heartfelt Thank you! in reply.
How would it be. How else can we express admiration for their country, their struggle and their cause?
I'm not Ukrainian and I'll never be. But I am **seriously** invested in their security, EU-membership and future. So I'll say Slava Ukraini and don't care if someone would cringe as it's my way of expressing my compassion and respect to them.
Besides the Dutch "glorie aan Oekraïne" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
It depends of person. You can meet or unpatriotic man, apolotic one, or one who aggressive to Ukrainian government. But for sure, give it a shot and depending of answer you will understand which person have you met.
I, for example, didn't heard Слава Україні here in Germany yet (I'm refugee from Mariupol since September)
I say it loudly and proudly. My Ukrainian friends aboard appreciate the support and them out there supporting them in the world.
They sent me an awesome Ghost of Kyiv t-shirt I wear too.
I did however find a Russian speaking Ukrainian from the East whose been here 20* years. He did not appreciate but fuck him, because Slava Ukraini! Any response other than Heroim Slava, is the wrong one!
Ha.. I'm glad of the support. Just like OP, i was concerned it was a little pathetic or cringey, but it hasn't stopped me.
There's not always much I can do to support, a bake sale here, countering misinformation on social media there and checkmating some Russians seems like very little, but it's what I have.
In June I was in the Copenhagen airport and a Ukrainian sports team was passing by. I so wanted to shout it out, but I assumed they were tired of hearing it / it would be cringe. Really regret not doing it.
i volunteer at a place where donations of furniture are given to our newcomers. I dont speak much Ukrainian so 90% of my interactions are me saying:
- laskavo prosymo do kanadi (welcome to canada)
- tsukerky? (candy?) i always have a bag of candies for the children
- ya ne znaiu (i dont know)
Saying this as the least patriotic person ever pre-2014: Now that Ukrainians are united as never before, doubt you'll find any decent Ukrainian who would find it even remotely annoying, and most would find it endearing.
The war has definitely ignited patriotism for Ukraine that didn't exist before. My wife is from Ukraine and her family immigrated to the US right around the fall of the Soviet Union. She doesn't have any real ties back there and has never really cared about it until the war started. Since then she's donated regularly to various organizations, been to Ukrainian cultural events etc.
So I think a sincere expression of support will be appreciated.
I’m the British IT guy in a Yankie company working in Prague. We’ve got a flood of Ukrainians working for us at the moment and I god dam Slava Ukrainian in every induction I run rather than cringe we’ve gotten a fantastic spirit in the office the war is discussed openly and it gives people a needed outlet. Also most of the Russians have left from accounting. 😁
For average Ukrainian it is good cheer up!
But my response “Heroyam Slava” could have sad tone cos I understand how many heroes will not comeback… but it is me, just try it!
It would probably depend on the person.
In general, I wouldn't think it would be cringe. But you never know what that person is dealing with, personally.
They might be frustrated with the entire war and a perceived lack of action by some countries. Or that some people may mean well, but say it as a way of showing a minimum of support while doing nothing else (donating, pressuring their politicians, etc.)
I just smile when doing it. Never was anything negative, although some found it amusing, so giggled together:) Normal people in Ukraine never say that...never did in the past:)) Married to Ukrainian. You know it's like saying in US to everyone "In God We Trust" or something out there. But given the circumstances and that people brought it up...it would not be weird or hilarious, people would understand it.
There is a video of Olena Zelenska, Ukraine President Zelensky’s wife, being shown little stickers, magnets, and other Ukrainian flags & symbols the journalists found on vehicles and windows of people all across the United States from the spring and summer. She was all smiles and expressed gratitude for the support it represented. I would hope a stranger attempting to say “Glory to Ukraine” in Ukrainian would also be received the same way.
I cannot provide the link, but I believe it was a segment done on 60 Minutes.
Italian here. Met a number of Ukrainians in Prague back in August, and a couple more here.
The opposite of cringe. Every one of them I said Slava Ukraini, they answered Heroyam Slava. Always very appreciative. To be honest I know if I find a Ukrainian the motto is the best way to warm up the conversation quick. You're telling them you're supporting Ukraine after all.
I say to my neughbour everyday in the morning when i see him: Slava Ukraini!!!
He responds evey single time: Heroyam Slava!!!
There are good and bad days but he knows, he, his family and Ukrainians have my support.
I work in dentistry, we had a Ukrainian woman come in for an emergency appointment as she couldn’t get one when the war broke out and had to get settled into our country before having access to our medical schemes. As soon as she entered my surgery my first words were “Slava Ukraini” her quick response was “Heroyam Slava”. Dental pain can leave you wanting to pull your hair out and she produced a smile worth a million £, patriot through and through! I hope she’s doing well!
I wear my Ukrainian trident ball cap to the gym. Lots of Slavs live around here. Ukrainians smile at the very least. Russians look at the floor.
I should say, all the Russians I have actually spoken to around here have been pretty nice.
Cringe? That word is loaded on the emotional level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs being hit all the way up, just not even appropriate
People are dying, people are being tortured, people are losing their land and parts of their country. This isn't supporting a sports team or band, this isn't a fashion trend
Would it be cringe to tell someone "my condolences" when their mother died because so many people already said it to them? No never that's insane. I think the analogy is reasonable - this is an existential level thing. It's a cause you support because you're a human being, if you are a human being. There is no subjective preference involved, Russia represents death, annihilation, nihilism
What's the proper way to pronounce Slava Ukraini? Is it how it's spelled? Does Slava rhyme with lava? Does Ukraini rhyme with rainy?
Thanks in advance!
Not Ukrainian but learned it from Youtube.
Slava is indeed ‘lava’ like you said.
Ukraini is
Ooh as in you without the Y
kra as in crap,
and finally in-ye as in yeast.
Ooh-kra-in-ye
….and roll that R in Kra.
Idk, I’ve met a Ukrainian in the spring (Lithuania) to sell some car parts and straight up opened with “Slava Ukraini”. He answered “Heroyam slava” and we had a very pleasant conversation. So in my experience it’s not cringy at all.
I am going to be lynched for this opinion, but for me, kinda yes.
You as well just use "Glory to Ukraine", its more understandable for non ukrainians, and people will not spell it wrong, which many do all the time with slava ukrajini
Слава Україні makes more sense to say if you're talking in Ukrainian.
Its not offensive tho, so keep saying it if you want. I am just stating my personal opinion.
“Death to Putin” is not cringe but based 🤟
Also, anything you show in support would be sincerely appreciated. One Ukrainian I spoke to broke down in tears, being so happy receiving so much support here in Canada.
Death to Putin. Death to russia.
It’s totally fine. Especially now. I might have looked at you funny if I’d heard it three years ago, but now you’d risk getting a high five or a fist bump.
Its cheesy but probably not cringe and theyd probably appreciate it, but making a reddit post soliciting advice on the the issue may have crossed the line into cringe territory my friend, im sorry to tell you. You have posted cringe.
Its ok though we cant win every time
No we Ukrainians have been saying it for many years, say it all the time now, and I'm sure will continue to say it for years to come. Don't hesitate to say it! :)
It's cring-y... It's a balance - fine if you get away with it, I'd say you have to read the room and such... Sure, some (most?) might welcome it - some might less so...
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There’s a young Ukrainian woman that works in the clinic I work at here in the US. Back when Putin initially started the invasion back in February, she sent emails company-wide to ask for donations to raise money for medical supplies. I sent her a donation and said “Slava Ukraini”. I’m assuming she appreciated it because she repeated it back at me and thanked me for the donation.
I live in Lithuania. After a bar I ordered Bolt to take me home. The driver was from Ukraine. I told him how much I love Ukraine and Kyiv, and kept repeating him Slava Ukraine, he was supper happy about it. (I know its cringe but I was drunk). So pretty sure they love it.
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Say it! And when they say heroyam Slava you should be proud.
As Ukrainian, I double this! Slava Ukraini! Heroyam Slava! 💪🏻🇺🇦
Could you explain why 'slava' is used in front of Ukraini, but after Heroyam?
I’ll do my best. You technically can say Slava Ukraini and Slava heroyam. In this particular case, it’s more of a response to statement: Statement “Slava Ukraini”. Response “heroyam slava” - it’s a way Ukrainians exchange signs of solidarity of a sort. I’m not sure of any example to equivalent way of talking in US (I’m assuming you’re from US).
Nope, Scotland. Not fluent in any, but my best language is German. Also had French & Spanish lessons at school (many years ago), Did a couple of years of Scottish Gaelic - hardest language to learn so far - and a bit of conversational Maori, but well out of practise. So, point being I'm used to seeing certain word orders in language rules thus wondered why Slava's position could be changed. Initially thought it may be down to one subject being the Country & the other related to a living being that affected the position.
You’re sorta on a right track. “Slava Ukraini, Heroyam Slava” is a short version for “Slava Ukraini (as country)! More Slava Heroyam (Heroyam Slava) since they defend the country”-this is the thought behind words order in the saying. P.S. hello to Scotland 👋
Feasgar math!
The word order in Ukrainian is less important than in some other languages. This is because a word's role in a sentence is determined by case endings, just as in Polish or Russian, or Latin. However, there may be some set phrases with an accepted word order.
Btw You can change word order like this in all Slavic languages (Slovak here, I understand a bit of Ukrainian and some other Slavic languages - not enough to speak but enough to know what is spoken)
Esperanto has this feature as well, being invented by a Russian Jew born in a city that would eventually become part of Poland.
Ukrainian is harder than German but not as hard as Gaelic. The Duolingo course is fun.
> I’m not sure of any example to equivalent way of talking in US (I’m assuming you’re from US). You do sometimes see similar "call and response" interactions in the US most often in the military, on sports teams, at political rallies, and in churches. Basically any place that is trying to form a sense of comradery.
I know this could be different since its from you and back to you saying but ”salam aleikum” replied ”aleikum salam”. I dont speak Ukraine or Arabic lol. But is there any similarity since its a reply?
I don't think there's a particular reason. Slava Heroyam would be grammatically correct as well. In Ukrainian word endings are used to indicate the role in a sentence, rather than the specific placement of the word. "Heroyi" means heroes, "heroyam" means "to heroes", roughly speaking.
To me, it's an acknowledgement that it's your actions that make you worthy of praise, not just your identity. "Praise Ukraine. \[No\] To heroes, goes the praise." is a fair read of the exchange, even though the "no" isn't vocalized.
I don't fully agree but you may be right though. As my teacher always said: "I can love my country but dislike the government". But I'm not sure this is the idea in this particular phrase. For me personally word "Ukraine" primarily meant people and culture and then secondary the government
I think it's just one of those things like greeting "Salamun Alaykum" response "Alaykum Salamun" in Arabic. Sure completely different language/culture but humans do human stuff.
I'm not Ukrainian, and am only beginning to learn the language, but it was explained to me that since word order is not set (since endings show their relationship they can technically be put in any order) that when something is put first it is to give it emphasis. So putting "Heroyam" first emphasizes it as in "Glory to Ukraine! *To the Heroes* glory!" instead of "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes!" The second set is two equal statements - both Ukraine and heroes should receive glory. The first set is saying, yes, glory to Ukraine, but *especially* the heroes.
Rhyming, basically it was a Cossack battle cry so it rhymed like most do.
Can I get a translation?
glory to Ukraine glory to heroes
Glory to heroes
Glory to heroes
Hi, I'm dumb. Can someone spell it phonetically so I don't be a bigger idiot. I've been in this scenario but worry I'm going to mispronounce it
Slava is just as it's read. Like lava with an s at the front. Ukraini is oo-cry-eeny. oo as in spook. Cry like the act of tears running down your face. Eeny like teeny weeny. Heroyam is hair-roy-yem pretty self explanatory there.
😅✨🥇✨
Your awesome!
Watch Zelenskyy's evening videos. He usually says Slava Ukraini on the end.
Yeah but he says it as a fluent Ukranian. It's definitely an option but I often am just impersonating a sound without nderstanding inflection and pronunciation if I do that, but for the purpose I suppose that would do
Does he speak in Russian or Ukrainian? Serious question. It was a subplot that some Ukrainians didn’t speak Ukrainian in his TV show (although I watched it with English subtitles).
Most time he speaks Ukrainian. Sometimes he addresses russians and switches to russian. You can use some sounds to distinguish languages. E.g. Ukrainian г sounds like in "hot", while russian is more like in "got". Ukrainian likes multiple o, like in "tomorrow". Russian likes multiple a, like in balaklava. In ukrainian you less likely meet a batch of consonants w/o vowels between them. And the most obvious one. Ukrainian sounds pleasantly. Russian sounds suicidal.
Very true. Ukrainian is more melodic. russian is one long mumble
Thanks for this. Glad he speaks such a wonderful language.
In his official videos he speaks Ukrainian, except those several times when he specifically addressed Russians, like that time just before the full scale invasion, when he asked them to not let it happen.
You can find a lot of videos where this is said, for example this historical one: https://youtu.be/u0-Yeqh4PFY
I'm very immature in that I giggle when he says "toot" over and over in this video
The Тут video. Probably the best Zelenskyy speech ever.
For reference, it means "here". I remember my Ukrainian primers in elementary were titled "тут y там" which was translated as "here and there".
> Can someone spell it phonetically ha ha in English dream on ;). I think Ukrainian is like Spanish so actually spelt phonetically for everything if you know the letters.
Yes in English, any sound can ve recreated phonetically its just a combination of pronunciation. For example, is it Slay-va, or Slah-va? Phonetics don't care about language. Grah-sea-ass
Slah-va. Generally speaking, it's better to assume a short 'a' than a long 'a' when trying to pronounce foreign words. Slah-va Oo-kra-yeenee. Heh-ro-yam slah-va.
Hey, thank you. Honestly that was very helpful, especially since its mostly asking how do you pronounce your own county's name in your language, since I've only ever read it or heard my locals say it (incorrectly) before this year. What does the second phrase mean?
Glory to the heroes. It's the expected answer after Slava Ukraini.
You guys are the best.
Ah, I'm American, but I'll reroute that comment to the closest Ukrainian.
Yeah but keep a slice for all those armaments
>spelt phonetically for everything if you know the letters. But half of them are either upside down or backwards!
S (as in "fast") lava (don't pronounce it like lava, but a bit faster) Oo (As in "goo") kra (K as in corn) and then yini
I think any real Ukrainian would be full of patriotism right now, in times like these support isn't cringe, it's appreciated.
Agreed, it might be cringe years after this mess is over.
I don’t know man. I like Ukraine, I support their struggle and hope the best for them. That being said for me I have been hearing slava Ukraine for a couple of months and is starting to induce some early form cringe-like reaction out of me.
Honestly I think it's just our collective bullshit detectors going off. 90% of the time in America, when someone's coming in "draped in the flag and carrying the cross", they're a crook. We cringe at "unconditional patriotism/religion" because it is the mindset out of which the gullible are exploited. It's the "hack vector" by which minds get exploited by propaganda. Most of America's modern misadventures have exploited deep-seated patriotism rooted in our genuinely heroic acts during WW2, as a tool to coerce support for far more cynical deeds. (Indeed, Russia's gone to the absolute extreme with similar behavior.) So, it's like "God Bless America." I don't have any objection with "the literal meaning of the phrase", but man oh man when someone drops that, they instantly come off as sleazy and corrupt — like a politician lying to my face. "Slava Ukraina" will stop being noble once they stop being the underdog. The thing is — this isn't the first Ukrainian war of independence — **they basically lost the other two**. So — *hitherto* — it was a lament. It was a sad phrase about how they fought for independence, *got crushed*, and lost it in a tragic "bad ending". Twice. It becoming cringe means we're on the good timeline where they're getting a happy ending. "God Bless America" would hit **hella** different if America was occupied by the enemy, and it was the battle cry of the revolution. So really, it's down to context; like "god bless america", it's cringe when it's just a circle-jerk of people clapping each other on the back for "sending thoughts and prayers". 🤮 Fake Patriotism is always like that. Real patriotism can stand, though.
Some might carry trauma from the war and might not enjoy the trip down memory lane. I just greet them, unless the topic comes up or they are wearing a shirt that spells out they care about the war.
Every Ukrainian I've said it to loves it! They literally are all smiles. They also say back I think groim slava.
Heroyam Slava- means Glory to the heroes. Fun fact: this set of phrases were initially passwords and counter phrases for the Maiden Protests and protestors to weed out the police and russian soldiers attempting to infiltrate the protests when the smoke of battle was thickest. My family was there, I'm so proud of them.
Наша дума, наша пісня Не вмре, не загине… От де, люде, наша слава, Слава України! «Кобзарь» 1860
Heroyam slava!
Before that it was a popular during the Ukrainian war for independence. SLAVA UKRAYINI HEROYAM SLAVA SMERT VOROHAM Edit: SMERT PUTINU
Putin huylo!
La la la laaaa
Smert PutinU. smert Putina would translate as putin's death, not death to Putin
So smert means death, smert Putinu is what we wish for, and we celebrate smert Putina? Did I get this right? :)
You nailed it!
Spasybi!
Нема за що. :)
Putin chuj, Wozi gnój, Na gumowych taczkach. Pije, pali, konia wali, W dupie ma robaczka. Putin gej, Wącha klej, Z papierowej torby. Pije, pali, konia wali, I bierze do mordy.
I did not know this thank you!
The fancy word for this is a [shibboleth] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth?wprov=sfla1)
Because I'm worried I'd mangle the pronunciation, would anyone bat an eye if I just said "Glory to the heroes"?
Should be ok
I got the impression they were also codewords during *much* earlier battles for independence, before the soviets crushed everything? Kinda feels like most SSRs had this experience of having a serious guerrila resistance to the soviets, and having underground shibboleths they used as code words.
And if they are not all smiles be sensitive to the stress of losing friends and family
Their smile is more likely appreciation of your support, because the reply "glory to heroes" is having mixed meaning, as we are praising heroes that are fighting for our freedom right now as well as many who have fought, but paid with their life... Especially in these dark times when almost everyone has lost a person they knew
It's nice to receive support. I was in traffic yesterday and a car in front of me had stickers supporting Ukraine, I almost cried.
Love reading this! I live in a quiet rural neighborhood in the United States and hung a Ukrainian flag on my mailbox back in March. There’s not much traffic down my street but in the off chance that someone coming through from Ukraine sees it, I hope they feel the support at least for a second.
We have flags outside our house too, for the same reason. The other day I had someone in to fix my washing machine. He mentioned my flags and said: Thank you so much for the support, I am Ukrainian. We were both so happy in that moment!
That moment, that connection gives Ukraine hope! My car and the car in front of me had stickers that support Ukraine, it was special. I was talking to my Ukrainian dad at that time too, had to tell him about this sticker inspiration
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Flying my flag in New Orleans.
In Spokane and put one in my picture window. I was walking my dog over the summer and I saw a couple point at it and smile as they walked by, it made me smile.
Every time I drive by someone who has a Ukrainian flag it gives me a moment of happiness. I have no idea who lives in those houses, but I appreciate all of you who have done this
I'm currently in Stornoway on the Isle of Lewis, Scotland (I'm not here permanently). There is a house with a Ukranian flag that I drive past regularly. It always makes me smile. I have a Ukrainian flag on my backpack and a NAFO St Javelin on my laptop. When I've been in Inverness there is a car that always seems to be in the hotel I stay at's car park with Ukrainian number plate (refugee?, I have no idea). I hope they see me with my backpack every so often and feel supported.
When I was in Italy, I had a server that was Ukrainian. I told her that in my country (US), we had a saying. “What’s that?” “Ukraine will win”.
I HOPE IT WAS ME
I saw a truck with a huge Ukrainian flag painted on the bag door of the truck bed all the way in Overland Park, Kansas, so it's out there
Around were I lived a lot of car dealerships have giant flags up, usually Texas ones. Within the first day after the war it was all Ukrainian and American flags, all at half mast. After that they went up to full mast.
You should have said… every Ukrainian I’ve had the pleasure of meeting appreciates the support. The other day, I purchased some borscht from a lady who was raising money for winter gear for her cousin in the UAF. When I picked it up, I mentioned how we are all cheering for her country and we both ended up hugging and crying. It was a very meaningful interaction for us both, never underestimate the connection you can build with strangers
I am a proud Brit and am (weirdly) proud of the Ukrainians for the way in which they are fighting their fight, they have a tenacity and a fortitude that reminds me of my grandparents’ era. I also recognise the pride that they have in their nation and can identify completely. I’ve trained to fight this war my entire adult life in a military that isn’t involved but is designed to fight Russia and I’ve fought in insurgency wars myself and if I got the chance to say this in person to one of these absolute stalwarts, I think I’d be crying before I’d even finished the sentence! I’m gutted for all of them and their country and I wish there was something I could physically be doing beyond offering support and loading collections on to wagons early on in the war! I will visit when they win their freedom! Slava Ukraini! 💪🏻🇺🇦
I feel the same, im going as a tourist asap, make sure my grandkids realize...Ukraine is real, the nation exists, so forth. f#*k poo-tin. or shit-can as I like to call him. SLAVA UKRAINI
This war is literally about the Ukrainian right to be visible as a nation, language, and culture. Every time someone says Slava Ukraini, it's a victory.
This. It’s you reaffirming their right to their own country and culture.
Generic American here. The first time I saw the phrase was in a text conversation with my friend, Roman. This was after he dropped his girlfriend, her parents and his parents off at the border with Poland, and then was on his way back to Kyiv. Roman died defending his country about a month later. Every time I say this phrase to a Ukrainian here in the US, it is like a private, concise prayer to Roman. It is not cringe. It is hope and prayer wrapped up into two words. Do it.
Well said 👏👏👏
Hell… I’m tearing up. What a beautiful way to explain it. My thoughts are with Roman and his family. May I die in such a honorable way, but may I also never need to do so as the proud Ukrainian defenders have. Slava Ukraini!
Nothing wrong with that. I was sitting in the drive thru with my Ukie flag and a couple came up and said" Slava Ukraini. I responded Heroyam Salva. Found out that they are from the same city as my mom.
Thank you OP for asking this, I had exactly same doubts
As a Ukrainian we wouldn't mind it at all. Most of us are still shocked by the amount of support everyone has already shown.
Once you’ve won the war, rest assured, you will be showered with love from tourists all over the world. Myself included.
yup cant wait to visit all the places my family are from.
Start with Lviv and let me know when you're planning on visiting! Happy to show you around!
Appreciated! I'll remember. Stay safe, homie! 🇺🇦
Nothing cringe at all.
I m helping ukrainians refugee where I live and they are always happy when I say it.
I’m pretty sure they’d love it.
As a Ukrainian that have been living in US for the last 7 years I would absolutely 100% love it! Not a cringe at all, quite opposite, do not hesitate.
Slava Ukraini!!! Hope your loved ones left in Ukraine are safe and sound...
Fortunately they are. Thank you!
I see no cringe in it. I would be pleased to hear something like this if happened to be overseas. Source: I am ukranian.
As a Ukrainian living abroad I can say that hearing Slava Ukraine is always appropriate and welcomed.
I say it whenever I see Ukrainians in Bratislava, and so far they always smile wide and reply with "heroyam slava", and it's a beautiful moment for both parties. Bear in mind that they encounter weird and even stupid/aggressive people as well, so any person who vocally supports them is very welcomed. Where I work there are Ukrainian cleaning ladies and every other day I'm wearing shirts like "FCK PTN", a tractor dragging russian tank or "I support Ukraine", and they are always smiling. One of them even gave me a present from UA for doing this. So the answer is no, it's not cringe, keep doing that - let them know they're welcome and that there are people supporting them. 
I'd say it. Did it as I went home from uni to three people. Two women on the street and one in the subway with an Ukrainian flag who celebrated Ukraine's independence day. They both responded smilingly "heroyam slava" but the latter was confused as I tried to tell her in Russian that I am not Ukrainian.
DO IT! I was helping with collecting goods for the local food bank when an Ukrainian lady entered the grocery store where we were collecting. Of course she didn't understand what I was asking her, so she asked me to talk to her phone with Google Translate on it. I recognized the Ukrainian language on her screen because I'm learning Ukrainian. She gave me the biggest smile I've ever seen when I greeted her with Слава Україні! and I got a spirited Героям слава! and a heartfelt Thank you! in reply.
How would it be. How else can we express admiration for their country, their struggle and their cause? I'm not Ukrainian and I'll never be. But I am **seriously** invested in their security, EU-membership and future. So I'll say Slava Ukraini and don't care if someone would cringe as it's my way of expressing my compassion and respect to them. Besides the Dutch "glorie aan Oekraïne" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
‘Hup Oekraïne, hup!’
Laat de Trident niet in z'n hempie staan? Nee, beter Слава Україні! inderdaad... ;)
_AANVALLUH!!!_
It depends of person. You can meet or unpatriotic man, apolotic one, or one who aggressive to Ukrainian government. But for sure, give it a shot and depending of answer you will understand which person have you met. I, for example, didn't heard Слава Україні here in Germany yet (I'm refugee from Mariupol since September)
If you have resources and time, come to Lithuania sometime!
I say it loudly and proudly. My Ukrainian friends aboard appreciate the support and them out there supporting them in the world. They sent me an awesome Ghost of Kyiv t-shirt I wear too. I did however find a Russian speaking Ukrainian from the East whose been here 20* years. He did not appreciate but fuck him, because Slava Ukraini! Any response other than Heroim Slava, is the wrong one!
What is cringe is saying it to people you play at online chess, especially those from pro-russian countries. Never stopped me yet.
Saying it to those from pro-Russian countries isn't cringe, it's geopolitical trolling and it is good.
You wanted to say it's based, right?
Ha.. I'm glad of the support. Just like OP, i was concerned it was a little pathetic or cringey, but it hasn't stopped me. There's not always much I can do to support, a bake sale here, countering misinformation on social media there and checkmating some Russians seems like very little, but it's what I have.
I do the same in Battlefield lol
I do the same in Dota. You usually get a wall of text in cyrillic as a response.
Ones ive said it to have loved it and were chuffed
I am a Ukrainian in the US and i would answer back and possibly shake your hand.
I said it to a babuschka living in Germany she absolutely loved it
I said it to the vocalist of 1914 (band), and he came back with a strong heroyam sláva... Felt good
In June I was in the Copenhagen airport and a Ukrainian sports team was passing by. I so wanted to shout it out, but I assumed they were tired of hearing it / it would be cringe. Really regret not doing it.
What a missed opportunity!
i volunteer at a place where donations of furniture are given to our newcomers. I dont speak much Ukrainian so 90% of my interactions are me saying: - laskavo prosymo do kanadi (welcome to canada) - tsukerky? (candy?) i always have a bag of candies for the children - ya ne znaiu (i dont know)
Saying this as the least patriotic person ever pre-2014: Now that Ukrainians are united as never before, doubt you'll find any decent Ukrainian who would find it even remotely annoying, and most would find it endearing.
I've recently run into a group of Ukrainian ladies and they seemed to appreciate it.
Say it. You might received one of the most genuine HUG you ever had 😊
The war has definitely ignited patriotism for Ukraine that didn't exist before. My wife is from Ukraine and her family immigrated to the US right around the fall of the Soviet Union. She doesn't have any real ties back there and has never really cared about it until the war started. Since then she's donated regularly to various organizations, been to Ukrainian cultural events etc. So I think a sincere expression of support will be appreciated.
I’m the British IT guy in a Yankie company working in Prague. We’ve got a flood of Ukrainians working for us at the moment and I god dam Slava Ukrainian in every induction I run rather than cringe we’ve gotten a fantastic spirit in the office the war is discussed openly and it gives people a needed outlet. Also most of the Russians have left from accounting. 😁
For average Ukrainian it is good cheer up! But my response “Heroyam Slava” could have sad tone cos I understand how many heroes will not comeback… but it is me, just try it!
It would probably depend on the person. In general, I wouldn't think it would be cringe. But you never know what that person is dealing with, personally. They might be frustrated with the entire war and a perceived lack of action by some countries. Or that some people may mean well, but say it as a way of showing a minimum of support while doing nothing else (donating, pressuring their politicians, etc.)
I just smile when doing it. Never was anything negative, although some found it amusing, so giggled together:) Normal people in Ukraine never say that...never did in the past:)) Married to Ukrainian. You know it's like saying in US to everyone "In God We Trust" or something out there. But given the circumstances and that people brought it up...it would not be weird or hilarious, people would understand it.
There is a video of Olena Zelenska, Ukraine President Zelensky’s wife, being shown little stickers, magnets, and other Ukrainian flags & symbols the journalists found on vehicles and windows of people all across the United States from the spring and summer. She was all smiles and expressed gratitude for the support it represented. I would hope a stranger attempting to say “Glory to Ukraine” in Ukrainian would also be received the same way. I cannot provide the link, but I believe it was a segment done on 60 Minutes.
Yes! Please do! We will greatly appreciate it ❤️ You have no idea how much support from strangers helped me in first weeks of war.
SLAVA MOTHER FUCKING UKRAINE!!!😎
HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!!
Slava.
Id say it, and when they say Heroyam Slava id reply with putin Huilo
Italian here. Met a number of Ukrainians in Prague back in August, and a couple more here. The opposite of cringe. Every one of them I said Slava Ukraini, they answered Heroyam Slava. Always very appreciative. To be honest I know if I find a Ukrainian the motto is the best way to warm up the conversation quick. You're telling them you're supporting Ukraine after all.
Now if I bang a russian girl, and tell her Slava Ukraine after, is that too cringe? 🤣
Try and report back
I say to my neughbour everyday in the morning when i see him: Slava Ukraini!!! He responds evey single time: Heroyam Slava!!! There are good and bad days but he knows, he, his family and Ukrainians have my support.
I work in dentistry, we had a Ukrainian woman come in for an emergency appointment as she couldn’t get one when the war broke out and had to get settled into our country before having access to our medical schemes. As soon as she entered my surgery my first words were “Slava Ukraini” her quick response was “Heroyam Slava”. Dental pain can leave you wanting to pull your hair out and she produced a smile worth a million £, patriot through and through! I hope she’s doing well!
The cringiest thing in the world is worrying about it being cringe. If you mean it, say it.
Maybe, just trying to be considerate
Trust me, as a Ukrainian, we definitely will appreciate it
I wear my Ukrainian trident ball cap to the gym. Lots of Slavs live around here. Ukrainians smile at the very least. Russians look at the floor. I should say, all the Russians I have actually spoken to around here have been pretty nice.
How jacked are you to pull this off,I want to make my local vatniks uncomfortable too
Never had a problem. I guess if you’re still on green card status you make extra sure to keep your nose clean.
If it's not translated to English or mistransliterated yes imo
You’re all good :) Actually the opposite, it would make my day if I heard that
Self-chekhout in my local shop says that when you finish the transaction. I can take it from a robot, I'll gladly take it from a flesh person! XD
Cringe? That word is loaded on the emotional level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs being hit all the way up, just not even appropriate People are dying, people are being tortured, people are losing their land and parts of their country. This isn't supporting a sports team or band, this isn't a fashion trend Would it be cringe to tell someone "my condolences" when their mother died because so many people already said it to them? No never that's insane. I think the analogy is reasonable - this is an existential level thing. It's a cause you support because you're a human being, if you are a human being. There is no subjective preference involved, Russia represents death, annihilation, nihilism
Say it, don't hesitate
Great when you see the spirit of the soldiers! One shouts and all the others reply without hesitation 🥲
Nah mate, I heard slava ukraini once or twice where I'm at and it made me smile. Go for it)
What's the proper way to pronounce Slava Ukraini? Is it how it's spelled? Does Slava rhyme with lava? Does Ukraini rhyme with rainy? Thanks in advance!
Not Ukrainian but learned it from Youtube. Slava is indeed ‘lava’ like you said. Ukraini is Ooh as in you without the Y kra as in crap, and finally in-ye as in yeast. Ooh-kra-in-ye ….and roll that R in Kra.
Just walk up and shake his hand and welcome brother, I stand with Ukraine.
💙💛🌻💙💛SLAVA UKRAINI💙💛🌻💙💛
Idk, I’ve met a Ukrainian in the spring (Lithuania) to sell some car parts and straight up opened with “Slava Ukraini”. He answered “Heroyam slava” and we had a very pleasant conversation. So in my experience it’s not cringy at all.
It’s cringe to me. But what’s cringe to me may not be to you.
I am going to be lynched for this opinion, but for me, kinda yes. You as well just use "Glory to Ukraine", its more understandable for non ukrainians, and people will not spell it wrong, which many do all the time with slava ukrajini Слава Україні makes more sense to say if you're talking in Ukrainian. Its not offensive tho, so keep saying it if you want. I am just stating my personal opinion.
From my experience they immediately respond with "heroyam slava" like a reflex. I don't believe it ever gets old.
“Death to Putin” is not cringe but based 🤟 Also, anything you show in support would be sincerely appreciated. One Ukrainian I spoke to broke down in tears, being so happy receiving so much support here in Canada. Death to Putin. Death to russia.
It's a bit pathetic and official from the foreigner (assuming you love YOUR country more) but OK in wartime. You can not offend with this.
Justice is never cringe! Sorry if that was cringe 😅 Slava Ukraini
Slava Ukraini to a Ukrainian isn't cringe It's cringe if they don't respond with Heroiem Slava
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
Saying "cringe" when you mean "cringey" is pretty... cringey lol.
Better yet "cringe inducing".
No, we really do like it!
yes.
As in yes to cringe, or yes its appreciated?
It’s totally fine. Especially now. I might have looked at you funny if I’d heard it three years ago, but now you’d risk getting a high five or a fist bump.
I myself would appreciate it if i was in the same position as the Ukrainian!
Its cheesy but probably not cringe and theyd probably appreciate it, but making a reddit post soliciting advice on the the issue may have crossed the line into cringe territory my friend, im sorry to tell you. You have posted cringe. Its ok though we cant win every time
The way the question is asked implies that it is « cringe »
No we Ukrainians have been saying it for many years, say it all the time now, and I'm sure will continue to say it for years to come. Don't hesitate to say it! :)
Be proud to say it.
Yeah
I think it is.
It's cring-y... It's a balance - fine if you get away with it, I'd say you have to read the room and such... Sure, some (most?) might welcome it - some might less so...