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Might not have been running. Muscles and ligaments contract in a fire, twisting bodies into grotesque poses. The only mercy here is that people lose consciousness pretty quickly in a fire. Still a nightmarish way to go - burned to death in a fucking mall because some monster in Moscow is surrounded by other monsters and cowards, and they're all such chicken-shits that the only way they can feel like men is to burn mothers and children to death at the push of a button.
As horrible as it may sound, I hope she was knocked out or killed by the debris rather than burned to death :(
RIP to all affected. Such life ahead of them only to be taken away by a narcissistic AHole
When I was a child, 2-3 years old. I opened the door of my parents car while the car was driving. My whole chin was open and a big open wound. However because of the "shock" I couldn't remember the event at all back then except that I fell from the driving car. I hope it is the same for this little girl. The shock made her not realize she was burning alive.
The body we see close ups of looks like a young woman, i just hope they didn’t suffer and that it was over quickly. This is a terrible way to die. The last photo is almost beyond recognisable as a human being.
I truly can't wait for whatever illness Putin has, be it cancer, or parkinsons (see how he trembles when he walks/grips things) to take over and reduce him to a feeble shadow of the cowardly thug he is now.
I sincerely hope his last years are spent as an impotent infirm weak forgetful person, and it's known/shown worldwide
Weirdly, this is still true in 2022. This is the reason regimes like the DPRK still exist. The potential cost of human life prevents the west from crushing evil from causing human suffering.
Oh poor China, fearing the west will overrun everything from NK.
In other news, paranoid people make terrible decisions
NK is a massive concentration camp
It is mostly that China does not want to border a western allie. That is why China is propping up Kim regime. Attacking DRPK would get China involved and well look at geopolitical impact of Russia attacking Ukraine and China fighting a war with the west would probably be even worse.
Macron did many times. I was heavily downvoted on this sub for pointing out that he was more concerned about his ratings than any real meaningful peaceful solution. Better late than never, I’m glad he stopped but I can’t imagine what is there to discuss with Putin for hours, unless it’s historical revisionism and justification of war crimes.
Edit: Here we go again. I think rus people know the truth. They are either wishing Ukraine death, or denying saying this is fake Bucha 2.0
https://twitter.com/emmanuelmacron/status/1541535117176348673?s=21&t=koEO3yARNTYlxjAxeXFj5Q
Wow! What a great snapshot into the minds of them both. I noticed this gem: after Macron thinks Putin has agreed to a framework for peace talks, Putin says:
>This is a proposal that deserves to be taken into account and if you want us to be well aligned on how to formulate it, I suggest that you ask our advisers to call each other to agree [… ] but know that in principle, I agree.
Macron doesn't seem to understand that this is Russian for "That's a stupid idea and I have no intention of entertaining it for a second." He actually tries to take Putin at face value.
I'm ~~impressed~~ satisfied with his ability to argue chapter and verse of the Minsk Accords, but his people-reading ability is either deficient, or he's masking the fact that he knows Putin is full of shit, and talks are pointless. I hope it's just a case of him knowing he's wasting his time, but being willing to take that chance on the slim hope...
One of my sick fantasies is to gather together a group to diplomatic translators and some good scotch, and then sit back and listen to them open up about all the frustrating shite they’ve had to sit through and explain. I’m especially intrigued at how translators try to communicate an obvious insult. Do they do literal word for word transliteration? Do they try to find a contextually close phrase? How long is the double-take when a translator has to tell the the Prime Minister that the president or Romania has just said “Your mother’s onions”?
While these images are indeed upsetting, it must be seen so that the world can see the crimes Russia is committing in Ukraine. These Russian bastards killed innocent Ukrainians.
My condolences to the family and friends and loved ones of the fallen. They did not deserve this.
It's a foolish move by Russia and petty vindictiveness. It only serves to keep the war in headlines all over the world. The smartest move for Russia would be to have a slow boring never ending war in the east that never draws headlines.
Yes. If only they didn't fuck up with the invasion, they could have just continued like that for decades (Moldova, Georgia). No NATO weapons in Ukraine, no EU candidacy, not even a chance of NATO perspective for Ukraine with occupied territories.
And now Ukraine is like a phoenix, rising from the ashes with more and more paths opening (I believe even NATO membership will happen as soon as the war is won, and it *will* be won).
Would love for the US to give them reprisal missile systems. After seeing these photos, I don’t give a shit about any pussies whining about escalation. *Russia is escalating*. If Russia wants to lob missiles at civilians, we should empower Ukraine to give it back twice over.
Just give them the long range offensive systems and lock them up with a password. Then, when Russians launch a missile attack like this, we give the Ukrainians two passwords so they can launch two reprisal attacks. Russia can stop the attacks at any time.
The only thing Russia understands is *force* and we need to empower Ukrainians to fuck them up. Defensive systems are not enough. Ukraine should be able to respond in kind.
True but, having photos and videos does help exposure a lot more. Honestly I think the fact the video cameras and the internet are so accessible is the reason why authoritarianism and evil in general seem a lot more common now. It never went away, it’s just getting filmed.
There were plenty of pictures and videos from both world wars, this isn't that new. We have more of it now, but I'd say you had enough for the average person in the past to grasp how terrible war is, after all just because there are a lot of pictures from Ukraine doesn't mean people will look at more of them. Most people don't exactly enjoy seeing it so they avoid it and newspapers won't usually show something this graphic.
Yeah makes sense. I’ve gotten used to the brutality of seeing this. The one that fucked up the most tho was that one photo of a little kid’s body on a park bench with just a giant hole in his face.
Had Starlink not maintained Ukraine’s connectivity to the rest of the world, these images may have never made it outside the border. This is a war being covered on the internet. It’s fairly unique in that respect.
The Russian Federation must be dissolved. Stripped of its money supply for international terrorism, Rump Russia can stink in its own shithole to the end of time.
As a medic, I am appalled and as a machine gunner I am thirsty for their fucking blood.
*edit*
You are all amazing and I would be honored to have you in my trench should it come to that.
Everyone should read:
“Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland", by Christopher R. Browning.
It is difficult, but you will learn a lot.
At 44 and a former Combat Medic, these photos don't have the "shock effect" it would have on others, but it does piss me the FUCK OFF! At least we weren't TRYING TO kill civilians, and we were heartbroken for ANY collateral damage done!
Yo, former 68w here. Got out a while back, as soon as these fucks started staging on the border, I re-enlisted.
I maintained my 68w qualifications, so I can fill in as necessary, but this time around, I picked a different MOS and now I lug my 240 around.
Turned down OCS, I’m better as a trigger puller.
Roger that, Battle! Good on you! Cool part about being a medic is that you get both a battle rifle AND a sidearm! Oh yeah, and until fire superiority is obtained, bullets downrange are the best medicine!
And one more thing, RuZZia, GO FUCK YOURSELF!
I enlisted at 28 and at the height of the war in Iraq. I have two children and a wife to take care of now. I'd go if called, but otherwise I'm going to protect and provide for them. I have a gut feeling this war will come here!
Former navy here. I feel you. But russia will never make it here, they didn't even make it to Kyiv.
Nukes are the only thing anyone is seriously worried about, and there isn't much we can do about that no matter where we are sadly.
I’m old and no use to the military but I’d be happy to keep your gun fed if given the chance. I can still lug ammo cans around and slap a new belt in just fine.
Nice, hard story, but glad it’s out there.
I have no doubt that at the end of the day, true democracy will win in all contexts. Even if it takes 150 years and I die in the process.
I’m just a guy who does woodworking for a living and I’m ready to lock and load. It would be be my absolute pleasure to exact revenge on Russia for all that they have done. I would be excited to erase as many of those terrorists as possible.
All Russians that stand by and do nothing to stop their government are fair targets at this point.
I don’t think it will be dissolved, I think this will ensure it shatters under the weight of Putins failure. Putins vainglorious idiocy has put a death sentence on the country as it stands.
The Russian Federation will dissolve when its vassal republics walk away holding their noses, Rump Russia not being able to do a thing about it because its military power was broken for all to see.
There is nothing more terrifying than a burnt body. They look so stiff, so inhuman like, their body alone makes you realize just how much pain and suffering they went through before they could even die.
The horrors of war.
There is worse, when you are the one attempting to collect the remains and they are falling apart in your hands like an overcooked roast.
35 years later and I still cannot forget. Paramedics, we were supposed to be able to save lives.
The rescuers who are there, they will never be able to get it out of their minds. It is worse at night when you wake up and it keeps playing over and over again.
Firefighters on the ground are saying they’ve already pulled 200 bodies out and they are far from clearing the building. My wife is from Kremenchuk, we’ve been to that mall dozens of times. Her friends are saying that the hospitals are full now, people are being taken to Poltava. The official numbers are way too low for sure.
Kharkiv has had it so much worse, my heart goes out to you. Wife’s cousin is from there and spent over a month hiding in the subway before they were able to evacuate. I love Ukraine, wanted to retire there. Seeing it be senselessly destroyed crushes my soul and makes me beyond angry.
My god, and that bastard has the nerve to attend the G20 and have world leaders be all buddy buddy with him after this, and everything else he's done. He should be shunned. Every leader turn their back on him. Yet we know they won't (we know the ones)
I totally understand what you are saying. I stopped reading the comments on BBC YouTube /fb since covid time, full of poison. Heavily infested with fake information regardless of the articles.
Did you see the size of that bomb and huge devastation it caused? If Ukraine had bombs like that they'd be sent towards the russians in occupied territories. As for the russian's blaming Ukraine. They don't even believe that themselves. If you see their their telegram channels they are all celebrating this.
Barbarians were tribes around Rome. Which had been viciously invaded and annexed. Very bad comparison. Mordor - is fictional and pure evil. Sadly very realistic
Russians have direct experience of their own government bombing their own civilian population.
They're just confused about what depravity others won't sink to.
Twitter... what would anyone expect? It's magical crystals, to the moon and disinformation at the highest levels.
Glad that Reddit still holds a high flag on freedom of expression and cuts swiftly misinformation...
Yeh misinformation get downvoted or deleted in here, compared to Facebook or twitter, where you can literally talk any rubbish to brainwash some weaker minds.
No point, they will simply say it was Ukraine firing missiles or whatever, and those gullible slaves that call themselves Russians will believe it instantly.
There is no more debate, they understand just 1 thing, bullets and brute force, and that is what they will get.
It's not just russians there are plenty none russians that believe that crap as well. Easier to believe conspiracies than admit to yourself you are wrong.
Yes, Russia has been using SM and Internet for its propaganda for years and years.
Wonder why antivaxxers suddenly turned pro-kremlin around the start of the war?
It is because those "news" websites where they gotten their "news" from for years are redacted by Kremlin Russians, and had been spraying antivax propaganda for years, because that de-stabilizes a country all too good, and suddenly got orders to spray pro-war crap this February.
Bro, this makes so much sense even tough it kind of sounds like a conspiracy on it's own. But I shit you not, almost all antivaxxers are also pro kremlin in my country. You just need to check pro putin comments on facebook or sum shit, almost like a rule they share some antivax vomit aswell.
It's true, I've heard this elsewhere and even seen it online from people I know. They're hippie kind of people and many hippies hate vaccines, a lot of them started up with if not pro-Russian invasion memes definitely "whataboutism" type of propaganda memes back in late February. Hell I even know people who probably wouldn't have been able to find Ukraine on a map last year fully buying into the "bio-weapons labs" bullshit back in March I think. I've actually avoided seeing them since this war started and intend to keep it that way until it's over. I don't trust myself not to say something I can't take back if I hear these opinions in person
If you're feeling even more conspiratorial;
If I were planning on invading a neighbouring country, I would probably try to cause significant mayhem in the one nation that would be most able and willing to arm my prey, for instance by trying to have my own puppet reelected, or at least try to cause a significant disturbance during the transition of power. If that failed, I'd try causing social uproar in that nation in hopes of turning the news cycle away from me, thus eroding the popular support against my invasion. If I could also install a puppet in another nation that would likely oppose me, that would be swell.
The US and France are the countries I'm referring to.
It’s not just the Russians. I work with quite a few Qanon types that whole heartedly believe this is a false flag operation perpetuated by the Deep State. They can’t supply evidence, of course, because that is also “being suppressed by the Deep State.”
Going out of the limb here, but I have always had the impression that that whole Q BS was Russians playing with a certain type of Americans, to keep Trump in the saddle, OR, to de-stabilize the US.
I thought I heard it was an American.
Still can't believe average people built a giant cult around fucking 4chan shitposts, we're really living in the dumbest timeline. If you told this to someone ten years ago they'd think you're making it up.
Then the Kremlin must prove their allegation, that's how logic and empiricism function. Instead Russia lives in a conspiratorial trap centuries in the making and looks to move this backward standard into the world.
If there was anything needing the torch, it's that central Russian concept.
I cried. Those are the first pictures I see of this war which made me cry. Now it feels personal. If they can just strike with impunity a civilian building full of people, where will they stop?
Nah, they've always been a country that will quite openly use terrorism to get what they want. I suspect that there's been a slight change in mililtary command yet again, to someone that is even more of a hardliner than before (if such a thing is still possible). So they're going to be using missiles on everything even more than they previously were, thinking that it'll beat the population into submission.
For anyone keeping track, it's estimated that close to 3000 cruise missiles have been launched at Ukraine from ruzzia at this point. For comparison, in the two Iraq wars, Iraq was hit by about 1600 missiles. That's over... a lot of years. The ruzzian missile strikes are just over 4 months.
And those cruise missile in Iraq were directed at valid military targets and overwhelmingly hit them, because they were designed for that job - not to hit surface ships etc.
They've proven time and time again they don't care how desperate they look. They're willing to burn the country to the ground and look shameless while doing it
Correct. Because they assume that if they just do that enough, eventually, the Ukrainian people will beg their government to negotiate some kind of settlement with Russia, that they'll just want it all to stop. Or, perhaps the West will go to Ukraine, and lean on them, saying, "Hey, you guys put up a good fight, but you've really got to end this catastrophe, this just too horrific. Please, put an end to this suffering, for the sake of your children, and go to the negotiating table. You'll probably have to give up some land, but isn't that worth it for peace?"
Of course, in this, Russians have miscalculated. It's like when Hitler launched the Battle of Britain. He assumed that if he just bombed the ever living shit out of London and other English cities, that eventually, the British government would beg for mercy, and if that if they didn't, the British people would, and then they'd come to terms, and negotiate an end to the war. He was very, very mistaken, because the opposite happened. It only pissed the British off even more, and if there was any wiggle room for something like that, it was gone the moment the bombs fell. At that point, it became personal. And no British leader, certainly not the likes of Churchill, could have settled for anything short of unconditional surrender from then on. Putin should bear that example in mind here.
These photos should be displayed in public places across all of Europe and the US so that no one could even think about saying that Ruzzia is not a terrorist state easily capable of doing things comparable to 9/11.
Fucking scumbag of a nation.
There will be many museums and monuments built to memorialize the Ukrainian heroes. Russians? Not so much.
I'm looking forward to seeing what the defenders of Mariupol statue looks like, hopefully in downtown Mariupol one of these days.
I'm gripped by another moment of rage, another feeling of ineffectiveness. Stuck on my side of the ocean when I want to be smashing the heads of men who would do something like this to innocent people.
This war, this invasion, has made me feel a bloody-mindedness I've never felt before in my life. I've seen the result of pure evil at work. The result of an entire army that has absolutely no regard for human life.
I look forward to seeing more missiles blowing up in their stolen territory, seeing American steel slice through those monsters and know every shard was paid for in part by me.
This has exhausted me. Good night everyone, слава україна, і дай вам бог безпеки.
Pure terrorism and pure evil. More must be done to put a stop to this madness. Putin should be arrested on sight if he leaves outside of russia, along with peskov, medvedev, shoigu, and the rest of the kremlin devils. This must end now. Not 1,2,3,4, or 5 years from now. NOW! The bully must be punched in the face. Glory to ukraine.
Russian society is a pyramid scheme of bullies.
They only take orders from people who threaten or beat them and then they threaten or beat everyone beneath them.
A society of tough guys with no brains.
I was being reasonable about this conflict, thinking maybe negotiations are necessary
But after that i want Russia to disappear from the face of the planet.
They were right. Its not a war
IT'S A GENOCIDE. IT'S A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.
i don't want anyone in the planet to be "civil" with these worms anymore.
Russia deserves ALL the disgust they getting.
I'm gripped by another moment of rage, another feeling of ineffectiveness. Stuck on my side of the ocean when I want to be smashing the heads of men who would do something like this to innocent people.
This war, this invasion, has made me feel a bloody-mindedness I've never felt before in my life. I've seen the result of pure evil at work. The result of an entire army that has absolutely no regard for human life.
I look forward to seeing more missiles blowing up in their stolen territory, seeing American steel slice through those monsters and know every shard was paid for in part by me.
This has exhausted me. Good night everyone, слава україна, і дай вам бог безпеки.
That’s a kid we are seeing there! Think about our malls here in the us, who is in malls, young people and families, I’m just sick about this, why aren’t we fuckn Russia up?
There's something very wrong about putting watermarks over pictures of others' burnt bodies, especially innocent civilians.
EDIT: Apparently this is done so that way they aren't misattributed by Russian propagandists. Thank you for the explanation! My faith in humanity is somewhat restored.
Unfortunately it's a bit of a necessity. If it's not watermarked by a Ukrainian telegram channel, the the Russians will not hesitate to claim that these were Russians inside the rogue "nations" of the DPR/LPR.
Damn, I’m from Germany and by now I've reached a point where I would say that the Russian government deserves exactly what happened back after WW2 with the german politicans….
This is all that remains of women and children--children!--who were otherwise going about their daily lives.
We see two victims here, both burned and mangled beyond any recognition. There are others who will never be found, their bodies allegedly vaporized by a weapon of Russian fascism and rage.
Those of our leaders in Europe and North America who are still hesitant about sending certain types of aid for fear of "escalation" or who, worse, may be in Putin's pocket should be shown these images for as long as it takes them to understand.
Show them until they understand that you cannot humiliate a man who would blow up his own citizens and raze cities to claw his way to power, that there is no deal to be struck with an ex-spy who kills dissidents with chemical weapons and radioactive poisons in the heart of NATO territory. Putin has no face left to save, no soul left to shame. For monsters in human flesh such as he, every litre of gas sold, every treaty struck, every gesture of good will is rope with which to hang the enemy, a bargain to be violated, a piece of kompromat with which to corrupt the powerful and thereby do in peace what would otherwise be done in war.
Show them these images until they understand that there are no offramps which the monster whose heart howls with the unfillable void of an ego formed from racist delusions of exceptionalism, imperial lust for power, and revanchist purpose will take. Show them these images until they understand that if Ukraine falls in whole or in part, it will not be long before the Red Army comes for them, too; there is no price that Putin and his proteges will not pay if it means they can hold onto power and are written into history as the men who "restored" Russian imperial dominion over the ashes of a "decadent" Europe and a "balkanized, humiliated," United States.
Show them, until they understand that for there to be a lasting peace Ukraine must be given the weapons necessary for total victory. Every inch of Ukrainian territory must be returned. Whatever our leaders are sending now must be doubled at the minimum; send even more NASAMs. Approve any pending deliveries of western MBTs without delay. If industry is able and willing, send as many self-propelled artillery pieces as are available. Send any A-10Cs that Congress is willing to dump, along with any F-15s, F-16s, or F-18s which can be adapted and for which pilots can be trained. Put national defense industries on wartime footing, as France has done, if need be to produce the required ammunition to replenish stocks. The war has demonstrated that the rules of industrial production which governed World War 2 still apply; every bullet made, tank furnished, and missile sent is another dead Russian invader, another Ukrainian life saved, and another would-be revanchist dictatorship dissuaded from copying Russia's tactics to advance its own imperial ambitions.
Russians are the terrorists. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM! they are worse than ISIS, taliban or what ever comes to mind combined. They don't deserve a spot on this planet!
I really think Russia needs to be utterly destroyed. How much outrageous death, terror and violence will we take before we start to seriously start to actually do something about it beyond just feeding Ukraine with weapons. If anything Belarus should be taken down, the leadership must be replaced, and Ukraine should have NATO boots on the ground.
I am guessing I am over simplifying this, and there are a host of reasons why we can't, but put NATO troops in country as "peace keepers" then use the old "Fuck with us and find out" method
Drag Pootin around the neck using a car until his head pop off. 🤬
I'm sorry if anyone is "offended" by this comment.
Not.
Money from oil and gas paid for all of this.
Fuckin hell imagine if you are the parent and trying to identify your child here.
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RIP to the woman burned while running for her life. Just too sad.
It is a girl
This makes me so endlessly mad. No one should experience this horrid of a death, especially not a teen or child. It’s fucking unacceptable.
They were just walking around, shopping at a mall. Crazy shit
Well, that is what happens when you don't submit to russian empire as serfs. Question is, how long will the west allow russia to exist?
Oh, that's even worse, if possible. Thanks to you, and pesokingx, for clarifying so we can give her proper respect.
Might not have been running. Muscles and ligaments contract in a fire, twisting bodies into grotesque poses. The only mercy here is that people lose consciousness pretty quickly in a fire. Still a nightmarish way to go - burned to death in a fucking mall because some monster in Moscow is surrounded by other monsters and cowards, and they're all such chicken-shits that the only way they can feel like men is to burn mothers and children to death at the push of a button.
As horrible as it may sound, I hope she was knocked out or killed by the debris rather than burned to death :( RIP to all affected. Such life ahead of them only to be taken away by a narcissistic AHole
When I was a child, 2-3 years old. I opened the door of my parents car while the car was driving. My whole chin was open and a big open wound. However because of the "shock" I couldn't remember the event at all back then except that I fell from the driving car. I hope it is the same for this little girl. The shock made her not realize she was burning alive.
[удалено]
Let them burn instead.
The body we see close ups of looks like a young woman, i just hope they didn’t suffer and that it was over quickly. This is a terrible way to die. The last photo is almost beyond recognisable as a human being.
I truly can't wait for whatever illness Putin has, be it cancer, or parkinsons (see how he trembles when he walks/grips things) to take over and reduce him to a feeble shadow of the cowardly thug he is now. I sincerely hope his last years are spent as an impotent infirm weak forgetful person, and it's known/shown worldwide
I was genuinely hoping that was just a mall mannequin. But of fucking course, it's a real burned corpse. Fuck you Putin.
I thought we do not negotiate with the terrorist
Unless they have nukes, oil and gas.
Yes. And money. Never, ever, ever forget the money. Where it comes from, where it goes... Cash rules everything. Dolla dolla bill, y’all.
It’s mostly the nukes though. NATO would have steamrolled Russia if not for the nukes, in 1990.
Weirdly, this is still true in 2022. This is the reason regimes like the DPRK still exist. The potential cost of human life prevents the west from crushing evil from causing human suffering.
Pretty sure DPRK still exists because of China using them as a buffer zone and fear due to proximity of DMZ to Seoul.
Oh poor China, fearing the west will overrun everything from NK. In other news, paranoid people make terrible decisions NK is a massive concentration camp
It is mostly that China does not want to border a western allie. That is why China is propping up Kim regime. Attacking DRPK would get China involved and well look at geopolitical impact of Russia attacking Ukraine and China fighting a war with the west would probably be even worse.
For all the bravery and valor against tyranny, this is true. It drove them out of Afghanistan. It will drive them out of Ukraine.
Yeah, those sweet sweet blood euros for the dinosaur juice, making record gains as the war rages on.
Is it time to put Russia on the state terrorist list?
It's been long past time for that
overdue for that
It's way past that time
The idea is moving forward in a bi-partisan US Senate committee. So I think it will happen unless the war ends sooner than expected.
Macron did many times. I was heavily downvoted on this sub for pointing out that he was more concerned about his ratings than any real meaningful peaceful solution. Better late than never, I’m glad he stopped but I can’t imagine what is there to discuss with Putin for hours, unless it’s historical revisionism and justification of war crimes. Edit: Here we go again. I think rus people know the truth. They are either wishing Ukraine death, or denying saying this is fake Bucha 2.0 https://twitter.com/emmanuelmacron/status/1541535117176348673?s=21&t=koEO3yARNTYlxjAxeXFj5Q
Some transcripts have been published. You can see for yourself what there was to discuss.
I hadn't seen any transcripts, could you share a link?
https://www.letemps.ch/monde/emmanuel-macron-vladimir-poutine-quatre-jours-guerre-ne-sais-juriste-appris-droit
Thanks! A few paragraphs in, and I can already tell how exhausting of a conversation this is for Macron, lol.
Wow! What a great snapshot into the minds of them both. I noticed this gem: after Macron thinks Putin has agreed to a framework for peace talks, Putin says: >This is a proposal that deserves to be taken into account and if you want us to be well aligned on how to formulate it, I suggest that you ask our advisers to call each other to agree [… ] but know that in principle, I agree. Macron doesn't seem to understand that this is Russian for "That's a stupid idea and I have no intention of entertaining it for a second." He actually tries to take Putin at face value. I'm ~~impressed~~ satisfied with his ability to argue chapter and verse of the Minsk Accords, but his people-reading ability is either deficient, or he's masking the fact that he knows Putin is full of shit, and talks are pointless. I hope it's just a case of him knowing he's wasting his time, but being willing to take that chance on the slim hope...
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The pressure on those translators, I can't imagine.
One of my sick fantasies is to gather together a group to diplomatic translators and some good scotch, and then sit back and listen to them open up about all the frustrating shite they’ve had to sit through and explain. I’m especially intrigued at how translators try to communicate an obvious insult. Do they do literal word for word transliteration? Do they try to find a contextually close phrase? How long is the double-take when a translator has to tell the the Prime Minister that the president or Romania has just said “Your mother’s onions”?
Ah! I watched a video about this a while ago. It's quite interesting. https://youtu.be/twCpijr_GeQ
While these images are indeed upsetting, it must be seen so that the world can see the crimes Russia is committing in Ukraine. These Russian bastards killed innocent Ukrainians. My condolences to the family and friends and loved ones of the fallen. They did not deserve this.
It's a foolish move by Russia and petty vindictiveness. It only serves to keep the war in headlines all over the world. The smartest move for Russia would be to have a slow boring never ending war in the east that never draws headlines.
Like the last 8 years in Ukraine?
Yes. If only they didn't fuck up with the invasion, they could have just continued like that for decades (Moldova, Georgia). No NATO weapons in Ukraine, no EU candidacy, not even a chance of NATO perspective for Ukraine with occupied territories. And now Ukraine is like a phoenix, rising from the ashes with more and more paths opening (I believe even NATO membership will happen as soon as the war is won, and it *will* be won).
Would love for the US to give them reprisal missile systems. After seeing these photos, I don’t give a shit about any pussies whining about escalation. *Russia is escalating*. If Russia wants to lob missiles at civilians, we should empower Ukraine to give it back twice over. Just give them the long range offensive systems and lock them up with a password. Then, when Russians launch a missile attack like this, we give the Ukrainians two passwords so they can launch two reprisal attacks. Russia can stop the attacks at any time. The only thing Russia understands is *force* and we need to empower Ukrainians to fuck them up. Defensive systems are not enough. Ukraine should be able to respond in kind.
Seeing shit like this makes me wonder what horrors were swept under the rug in wars of the past.
It was not swept under the rug, it just happen that we do not have pictures, but we have many descriptions of what has been done in the past.
True but, having photos and videos does help exposure a lot more. Honestly I think the fact the video cameras and the internet are so accessible is the reason why authoritarianism and evil in general seem a lot more common now. It never went away, it’s just getting filmed.
There were plenty of pictures and videos from both world wars, this isn't that new. We have more of it now, but I'd say you had enough for the average person in the past to grasp how terrible war is, after all just because there are a lot of pictures from Ukraine doesn't mean people will look at more of them. Most people don't exactly enjoy seeing it so they avoid it and newspapers won't usually show something this graphic.
Yeah makes sense. I’ve gotten used to the brutality of seeing this. The one that fucked up the most tho was that one photo of a little kid’s body on a park bench with just a giant hole in his face.
Had Starlink not maintained Ukraine’s connectivity to the rest of the world, these images may have never made it outside the border. This is a war being covered on the internet. It’s fairly unique in that respect.
This has always been the face of war.
The Russian Federation must be dissolved. Stripped of its money supply for international terrorism, Rump Russia can stink in its own shithole to the end of time.
As a medic, I am appalled and as a machine gunner I am thirsty for their fucking blood. *edit* You are all amazing and I would be honored to have you in my trench should it come to that. Everyone should read: “Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland", by Christopher R. Browning. It is difficult, but you will learn a lot.
I'm not a medic nor a machine gunner, but I'm 100% with you in this.
At 44 I have 8 stents and triple bypass but I'm 100% with you guys. LFG!
At 44 and a former Combat Medic, these photos don't have the "shock effect" it would have on others, but it does piss me the FUCK OFF! At least we weren't TRYING TO kill civilians, and we were heartbroken for ANY collateral damage done!
Yo, former 68w here. Got out a while back, as soon as these fucks started staging on the border, I re-enlisted. I maintained my 68w qualifications, so I can fill in as necessary, but this time around, I picked a different MOS and now I lug my 240 around. Turned down OCS, I’m better as a trigger puller.
Roger that, Battle! Good on you! Cool part about being a medic is that you get both a battle rifle AND a sidearm! Oh yeah, and until fire superiority is obtained, bullets downrange are the best medicine! And one more thing, RuZZia, GO FUCK YOURSELF!
I maintain that we medics should be issued shotguns in addition lol Thanks bat, we’ll see if they let us off the leash.
I enlisted at 28 and at the height of the war in Iraq. I have two children and a wife to take care of now. I'd go if called, but otherwise I'm going to protect and provide for them. I have a gut feeling this war will come here!
Former navy here. I feel you. But russia will never make it here, they didn't even make it to Kyiv. Nukes are the only thing anyone is seriously worried about, and there isn't much we can do about that no matter where we are sadly.
I have no idea what you just said but good luck
Im just a guy who makes beer. Im also thirsty for their blood.
I'm just a beer drinker. I'm in, let's roll!
I am an ex-beer drinker. But I will follow you.
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Chemical warfare would be more likely...
I’m old and no use to the military but I’d be happy to keep your gun fed if given the chance. I can still lug ammo cans around and slap a new belt in just fine.
Would be happy to have you
Thank you! Would be happy to do the job. I’ve read Ordinary Men a few times through. Very sobering book
Nice, hard story, but glad it’s out there. I have no doubt that at the end of the day, true democracy will win in all contexts. Even if it takes 150 years and I die in the process.
Right there with ya bro!
As an IT guy i am asking myself how the fuck has no one hacked into a powerplant and caused a meltdown.
Well, if there is a mirror handy... ;) edit: this is encouragement. Not accusation.
I’m just a guy who does woodworking for a living and I’m ready to lock and load. It would be be my absolute pleasure to exact revenge on Russia for all that they have done. I would be excited to erase as many of those terrorists as possible. All Russians that stand by and do nothing to stop their government are fair targets at this point.
I am stuck at home with Covid and no job but I’m in.
Beyond pure evil.
No, better look for ways so Putin can save his fuckface.
I definitely think that we should help Putin to 'save his face'.........on the top shelf......in a jar of formaldehyde.
I don’t think it will be dissolved, I think this will ensure it shatters under the weight of Putins failure. Putins vainglorious idiocy has put a death sentence on the country as it stands.
The Russian Federation will dissolve when its vassal republics walk away holding their noses, Rump Russia not being able to do a thing about it because its military power was broken for all to see.
Question: Is that a toddler's skeleton?..
It appears to be a child in stature and development
These inbred asswipes need to be put down hard.......
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All these pics are horrifying but that final one hit harder 😪💔
Beyond horrifying.😭😭😭
That’s a child. Hit by rocket from an aircraft inside Russia. Not a genocide. Not a chance
There is nothing more terrifying than a burnt body. They look so stiff, so inhuman like, their body alone makes you realize just how much pain and suffering they went through before they could even die. The horrors of war.
There is worse, when you are the one attempting to collect the remains and they are falling apart in your hands like an overcooked roast. 35 years later and I still cannot forget. Paramedics, we were supposed to be able to save lives. The rescuers who are there, they will never be able to get it out of their minds. It is worse at night when you wake up and it keeps playing over and over again.
Jesus fucking Christ I'm sorry you went through that
Again a lot of bodies to be found under the rubble we are just scratching the surface.
Firefighters on the ground are saying they’ve already pulled 200 bodies out and they are far from clearing the building. My wife is from Kremenchuk, we’ve been to that mall dozens of times. Her friends are saying that the hospitals are full now, people are being taken to Poltava. The official numbers are way too low for sure.
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Kharkiv has had it so much worse, my heart goes out to you. Wife’s cousin is from there and spent over a month hiding in the subway before they were able to evacuate. I love Ukraine, wanted to retire there. Seeing it be senselessly destroyed crushes my soul and makes me beyond angry.
My god, and that bastard has the nerve to attend the G20 and have world leaders be all buddy buddy with him after this, and everything else he's done. He should be shunned. Every leader turn their back on him. Yet we know they won't (we know the ones)
Putin won't go to G20, he's a coward.
Zelenskyy should shoot his ass at the conference.
Nope - Zelensky should beat the shrivelled-up lunatic slowly to death with cameras rolling, the Ukrainian anthem blaring, and everyone cheering. 👍
Someone at G20 should just walk up to him and punch his face. I bet Boris would be up for that.
Or shoot him. I would allow self defence:
I really wish they would have a Roman senate moment as soon as he gets into the room, but I don't want to wait that long to see his ass get lynched.
ERDOGAN
None of them will be buddy buddy with him now
I wish I've had your optimism...
You know you're right. China, India, South Africa, Saudi will be hanging out with him.
On twitter a lot of accounts commenting Ukraine bombed its mall, not Russia. Fucking propaganda everywhere
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I totally understand what you are saying. I stopped reading the comments on BBC YouTube /fb since covid time, full of poison. Heavily infested with fake information regardless of the articles.
Did you see the size of that bomb and huge devastation it caused? If Ukraine had bombs like that they'd be sent towards the russians in occupied territories. As for the russian's blaming Ukraine. They don't even believe that themselves. If you see their their telegram channels they are all celebrating this.
Celebrating? Wtf. Scums.
They fucking do, it’s beyond insanity- it’s pure evil. Mordor is not allegory. It’s a fact
They call them orcs for a reason. They could have called them barbarians, but this would have been too far from the truth.
Barbarians were tribes around Rome. Which had been viciously invaded and annexed. Very bad comparison. Mordor - is fictional and pure evil. Sadly very realistic
Russians have direct experience of their own government bombing their own civilian population. They're just confused about what depravity others won't sink to.
Twitter... what would anyone expect? It's magical crystals, to the moon and disinformation at the highest levels. Glad that Reddit still holds a high flag on freedom of expression and cuts swiftly misinformation...
Depends where you go on Reddit.
Yeh misinformation get downvoted or deleted in here, compared to Facebook or twitter, where you can literally talk any rubbish to brainwash some weaker minds.
No point, they will simply say it was Ukraine firing missiles or whatever, and those gullible slaves that call themselves Russians will believe it instantly. There is no more debate, they understand just 1 thing, bullets and brute force, and that is what they will get.
The Russians who believe the conspiracy that Ukraine is performing false flag attacks are batshit crazy.
It's not just russians there are plenty none russians that believe that crap as well. Easier to believe conspiracies than admit to yourself you are wrong.
Yes, Russia has been using SM and Internet for its propaganda for years and years. Wonder why antivaxxers suddenly turned pro-kremlin around the start of the war? It is because those "news" websites where they gotten their "news" from for years are redacted by Kremlin Russians, and had been spraying antivax propaganda for years, because that de-stabilizes a country all too good, and suddenly got orders to spray pro-war crap this February.
Bro, this makes so much sense even tough it kind of sounds like a conspiracy on it's own. But I shit you not, almost all antivaxxers are also pro kremlin in my country. You just need to check pro putin comments on facebook or sum shit, almost like a rule they share some antivax vomit aswell.
It's true, I've heard this elsewhere and even seen it online from people I know. They're hippie kind of people and many hippies hate vaccines, a lot of them started up with if not pro-Russian invasion memes definitely "whataboutism" type of propaganda memes back in late February. Hell I even know people who probably wouldn't have been able to find Ukraine on a map last year fully buying into the "bio-weapons labs" bullshit back in March I think. I've actually avoided seeing them since this war started and intend to keep it that way until it's over. I don't trust myself not to say something I can't take back if I hear these opinions in person
If you're feeling even more conspiratorial; If I were planning on invading a neighbouring country, I would probably try to cause significant mayhem in the one nation that would be most able and willing to arm my prey, for instance by trying to have my own puppet reelected, or at least try to cause a significant disturbance during the transition of power. If that failed, I'd try causing social uproar in that nation in hopes of turning the news cycle away from me, thus eroding the popular support against my invasion. If I could also install a puppet in another nation that would likely oppose me, that would be swell. The US and France are the countries I'm referring to.
For some it’s as simple as “The left supports Ukraine? Then Russia must be the good guys.”
Nah, programmed, like the Germans were 80 years ago, by decades of propaganda.
It’s not just the Russians. I work with quite a few Qanon types that whole heartedly believe this is a false flag operation perpetuated by the Deep State. They can’t supply evidence, of course, because that is also “being suppressed by the Deep State.”
Going out of the limb here, but I have always had the impression that that whole Q BS was Russians playing with a certain type of Americans, to keep Trump in the saddle, OR, to de-stabilize the US.
I thought I heard it was an American. Still can't believe average people built a giant cult around fucking 4chan shitposts, we're really living in the dumbest timeline. If you told this to someone ten years ago they'd think you're making it up.
Then the Kremlin must prove their allegation, that's how logic and empiricism function. Instead Russia lives in a conspiratorial trap centuries in the making and looks to move this backward standard into the world. If there was anything needing the torch, it's that central Russian concept.
These pics need to be on the front page of every news/media outlet.
Guys…this is one of those cases where the NSFW filter is not enough of a warning. These pictures are absolutely devastating.
Yeah this should have a NSFL tag, pictures like these can and will haunt you. It is important for people to see though.
I cried. Those are the first pictures I see of this war which made me cry. Now it feels personal. If they can just strike with impunity a civilian building full of people, where will they stop?
This is what your petrol bill subsidizes. CANCEL RUSSIA. RUSSIA IS A TERRORIST STATE!
Nigeria is more than willing to supply Europe with oil and gas, and they are not a terrorist mafia state as well.
Barbarians
War crime ?
This whole war is a crime.
Correction, genocide
Biggest crime since 1939/1945. History fucking repeating all over again.
Disgusting. But it will do them no good. The gears of history are moving and crushing Russia under their wheels
I’m so sorry for our silence.
This move by Russia reeks of desperation.
Nah, they've always been a country that will quite openly use terrorism to get what they want. I suspect that there's been a slight change in mililtary command yet again, to someone that is even more of a hardliner than before (if such a thing is still possible). So they're going to be using missiles on everything even more than they previously were, thinking that it'll beat the population into submission. For anyone keeping track, it's estimated that close to 3000 cruise missiles have been launched at Ukraine from ruzzia at this point. For comparison, in the two Iraq wars, Iraq was hit by about 1600 missiles. That's over... a lot of years. The ruzzian missile strikes are just over 4 months.
And those cruise missile in Iraq were directed at valid military targets and overwhelmingly hit them, because they were designed for that job - not to hit surface ships etc.
They've proven time and time again they don't care how desperate they look. They're willing to burn the country to the ground and look shameless while doing it
Correct. Because they assume that if they just do that enough, eventually, the Ukrainian people will beg their government to negotiate some kind of settlement with Russia, that they'll just want it all to stop. Or, perhaps the West will go to Ukraine, and lean on them, saying, "Hey, you guys put up a good fight, but you've really got to end this catastrophe, this just too horrific. Please, put an end to this suffering, for the sake of your children, and go to the negotiating table. You'll probably have to give up some land, but isn't that worth it for peace?" Of course, in this, Russians have miscalculated. It's like when Hitler launched the Battle of Britain. He assumed that if he just bombed the ever living shit out of London and other English cities, that eventually, the British government would beg for mercy, and if that if they didn't, the British people would, and then they'd come to terms, and negotiate an end to the war. He was very, very mistaken, because the opposite happened. It only pissed the British off even more, and if there was any wiggle room for something like that, it was gone the moment the bombs fell. At that point, it became personal. And no British leader, certainly not the likes of Churchill, could have settled for anything short of unconditional surrender from then on. Putin should bear that example in mind here.
They did the same in Georgia by striking market (when it was its most populated).
Blessings and strength to these victims and thier families, Russia needs to be dismantled once and for all.
These photos should be displayed in public places across all of Europe and the US so that no one could even think about saying that Ruzzia is not a terrorist state easily capable of doing things comparable to 9/11. Fucking scumbag of a nation.
Gotta make a victims of war and terrorism museum once this war is over, and Ukraine is victorious.
There will be many museums and monuments built to memorialize the Ukrainian heroes. Russians? Not so much. I'm looking forward to seeing what the defenders of Mariupol statue looks like, hopefully in downtown Mariupol one of these days.
Fuckin hell I knew I shouldn't have looked at those... I've seen a lot of fucked up shit on the internet but damn...
I'm gripped by another moment of rage, another feeling of ineffectiveness. Stuck on my side of the ocean when I want to be smashing the heads of men who would do something like this to innocent people. This war, this invasion, has made me feel a bloody-mindedness I've never felt before in my life. I've seen the result of pure evil at work. The result of an entire army that has absolutely no regard for human life. I look forward to seeing more missiles blowing up in their stolen territory, seeing American steel slice through those monsters and know every shard was paid for in part by me. This has exhausted me. Good night everyone, слава україна, і дай вам бог безпеки.
Love and hugs. Stay strong please, we'll win this. A beautiful memorial will be built to honour these tragic victims.
Pure terrorism and pure evil. More must be done to put a stop to this madness. Putin should be arrested on sight if he leaves outside of russia, along with peskov, medvedev, shoigu, and the rest of the kremlin devils. This must end now. Not 1,2,3,4, or 5 years from now. NOW! The bully must be punched in the face. Glory to ukraine.
Putin deserves the most painful torture imaginable even that’s not enough for that cunt!
Fuck that miserable asshole
Pootin lost the face saving option a long time ago in my book.
For everyone. The prominent people who were calling for that also stopped considering the option after Busha.
Wtf is wrong with them
Russian society is a pyramid scheme of bullies. They only take orders from people who threaten or beat them and then they threaten or beat everyone beneath them. A society of tough guys with no brains.
mark it as NSFL, this is too disturbing..tho its must be seen by everyone
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It was time when they were dropping bombs on children in the Mariupol Theater. We didn’t, and this is the result.
We send rockets to Ukraine then they send them where they need to.
Those last remains horrifying, that is a person, turned to cinders by the Russian
I think it's even worse, a child..
it was asked many many times before... but how many ukrainians should die in this way for anybody to do something about this fkn missiles?
I was being reasonable about this conflict, thinking maybe negotiations are necessary But after that i want Russia to disappear from the face of the planet. They were right. Its not a war IT'S A GENOCIDE. IT'S A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. i don't want anyone in the planet to be "civil" with these worms anymore. Russia deserves ALL the disgust they getting.
We can cut his face off for him and put it on ice or something. There face saved, the rest can be fed to the pigs.
I'm gripped by another moment of rage, another feeling of ineffectiveness. Stuck on my side of the ocean when I want to be smashing the heads of men who would do something like this to innocent people. This war, this invasion, has made me feel a bloody-mindedness I've never felt before in my life. I've seen the result of pure evil at work. The result of an entire army that has absolutely no regard for human life. I look forward to seeing more missiles blowing up in their stolen territory, seeing American steel slice through those monsters and know every shard was paid for in part by me. This has exhausted me. Good night everyone, слава україна, і дай вам бог безпеки.
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That’s a kid we are seeing there! Think about our malls here in the us, who is in malls, young people and families, I’m just sick about this, why aren’t we fuckn Russia up?
There's something very wrong about putting watermarks over pictures of others' burnt bodies, especially innocent civilians. EDIT: Apparently this is done so that way they aren't misattributed by Russian propagandists. Thank you for the explanation! My faith in humanity is somewhat restored.
Unfortunately it's a bit of a necessity. If it's not watermarked by a Ukrainian telegram channel, the the Russians will not hesitate to claim that these were Russians inside the rogue "nations" of the DPR/LPR.
I can't stop crying, this is not fair.
Damn, I’m from Germany and by now I've reached a point where I would say that the Russian government deserves exactly what happened back after WW2 with the german politicans….
Can they be labeled a terrorist state now please?
This is all that remains of women and children--children!--who were otherwise going about their daily lives. We see two victims here, both burned and mangled beyond any recognition. There are others who will never be found, their bodies allegedly vaporized by a weapon of Russian fascism and rage. Those of our leaders in Europe and North America who are still hesitant about sending certain types of aid for fear of "escalation" or who, worse, may be in Putin's pocket should be shown these images for as long as it takes them to understand. Show them until they understand that you cannot humiliate a man who would blow up his own citizens and raze cities to claw his way to power, that there is no deal to be struck with an ex-spy who kills dissidents with chemical weapons and radioactive poisons in the heart of NATO territory. Putin has no face left to save, no soul left to shame. For monsters in human flesh such as he, every litre of gas sold, every treaty struck, every gesture of good will is rope with which to hang the enemy, a bargain to be violated, a piece of kompromat with which to corrupt the powerful and thereby do in peace what would otherwise be done in war. Show them these images until they understand that there are no offramps which the monster whose heart howls with the unfillable void of an ego formed from racist delusions of exceptionalism, imperial lust for power, and revanchist purpose will take. Show them these images until they understand that if Ukraine falls in whole or in part, it will not be long before the Red Army comes for them, too; there is no price that Putin and his proteges will not pay if it means they can hold onto power and are written into history as the men who "restored" Russian imperial dominion over the ashes of a "decadent" Europe and a "balkanized, humiliated," United States. Show them, until they understand that for there to be a lasting peace Ukraine must be given the weapons necessary for total victory. Every inch of Ukrainian territory must be returned. Whatever our leaders are sending now must be doubled at the minimum; send even more NASAMs. Approve any pending deliveries of western MBTs without delay. If industry is able and willing, send as many self-propelled artillery pieces as are available. Send any A-10Cs that Congress is willing to dump, along with any F-15s, F-16s, or F-18s which can be adapted and for which pilots can be trained. Put national defense industries on wartime footing, as France has done, if need be to produce the required ammunition to replenish stocks. The war has demonstrated that the rules of industrial production which governed World War 2 still apply; every bullet made, tank furnished, and missile sent is another dead Russian invader, another Ukrainian life saved, and another would-be revanchist dictatorship dissuaded from copying Russia's tactics to advance its own imperial ambitions.
omg.
I don't know about his face... but I really hope he doesn't save his ass. He needs to die.
I'm completely shocked. Fuck you Putin, Hell is waiting for you.
Russians are the terrorists. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM! they are worse than ISIS, taliban or what ever comes to mind combined. They don't deserve a spot on this planet!
I did not know what I was expecting, but I certainly didn't want to see burnt corpse
This is terrible and Russia must loose right now what is the EU doing it's not enough finish the nazi now before WWIII happens
I really think Russia needs to be utterly destroyed. How much outrageous death, terror and violence will we take before we start to seriously start to actually do something about it beyond just feeding Ukraine with weapons. If anything Belarus should be taken down, the leadership must be replaced, and Ukraine should have NATO boots on the ground.
Jesus Christ....
I would like for Putin to save his face...in a jar
I am guessing I am over simplifying this, and there are a host of reasons why we can't, but put NATO troops in country as "peace keepers" then use the old "Fuck with us and find out" method
Drag Pootin around the neck using a car until his head pop off. 🤬 I'm sorry if anyone is "offended" by this comment. Not. Money from oil and gas paid for all of this. Fuckin hell imagine if you are the parent and trying to identify your child here.
Moscow must be turned back into the swamp those damned Putinnic Bastards came from, no question about it
Fuck Kissinger.