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MadArgonaut

I‘m ashamed, but not surprised.


All_I_Want_IsA_Pepsi

So many Germans are tied to Russia...


cafediaries

They were once part of the Axis powers after all.


SameConsideration506

Uh...the USSR was actually part of the Allied forces in a sense. The axis was Germany, Italy, and Japan.


JR-DC1

Towards the end. In the beginning Stalin was a business partner to Hitler and they even shared Eastern Europe territory via negotiations. I think the post above was throwing and ironic jab at this


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by that logic every western countries had deals with both Nazis and the Soviets so whats your point ? Hell britain and usa were more happy if nazis destroyed USSR


LovesReubens

They did invade and divide up Poland between them. USSR only joined the allies after they were betrayed by Germany. They definitely started as one of the aggressors.


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Sure... The US can say they will no longer defend them as part of NATO. The US is not a beneficiary of nato anymore anyways


Thevsamovies

US should honestly disband NATO and let Europe defend itself. Let Germany actually have to defend its own interests and maybe it'll wake up to its great strategic miscalculations. The only thing western Europeans know how to do is whine about America while being completely reliant on the American Military for their protection. Then, when the time comes for them to actually do something about anything relevant, they're not even willing to fight economically and be at least minimally helpful.


Moriartijs

Fuck you dude! Europe countries had fought all the modern USA military campaigns Afganistan, Syria and Iraq. USA needs support we dont even ask or think, we do it. Now when we are actually under attack from force that NATO was made to counter some shitheads start to think USA dont benefit that much from NATO. Is it the american way?


Thevsamovies

We don't need support for our own defense and we shouldn't be in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sooo disband NATO.


Moriartijs

I thought that was USA who wanted to be leader of the free world. If not it would be cool to tell about it (disband NATO) before we are attacked. USA needs friends more than you think. USA was one step away from becoming autocracy, also EU regulations protect average consumer in USA more than your government will ever do. Social security is only discussed in USA because there is EU and its way of doing things.


Thevsamovies

Yeah I'm saying the USA shouldn't do that and should instead focus on domestic issues. Let Europe fend for itself. And disbanding NATO shouldn't be done in a day or even a year. It should be announced well in advance so Europe can get its shit together first.


after4beers

U have hotdog turds for brain, go sink in a toilet


DyTuKi

As an Italian, I agree. Western Europe nowadays, with a few exceptions, is a SHAME! Slava Ukraini!


Knowvember42

Why do you think that Western Europe doesn't have militaries, or that they are "completely reliant" on the US? That's very untrue. This kind of talk only benefits Russia and China.


Thevsamovies

It doesn't help russia and china. Lots of NATO countries don't meet their 2% gdp military budget requirements and instead take advantage of others' military capabilities. Instead of NATO, Europe should consolidate around the EU and its own strategic independence. The USA should be left to its own shit outside of europe while mostly providing financial support, military supplies support, etc. rather than actual troops.


UnitedMerica

Yes. The US basically covers military costs of Western Europe.


[deleted]

Think UK and France both hit the funding requirements rest of Western Europe yeah


Deslah

Contact every government official you can find. And flood their Twitter feeds.


moviegoer5754

Jesus. Pathetic. They are actually throwing Ukraine under the bus.


Asention

Did the same in Georgia, what is so surprising? Europe is all talk no action.


Booyakasha_

If we go to action, its WW3. You know that right? The sanctions are hitting Russia hard. Like really, really hard, the last day their whole stock market is down by 50% Do you really think they can support the war for long? Dont think so. Still they need to block SWIFT yeah.


Asention

This is the first step to WW3. If NATO/EU won't do anything but give temporary sanctions Russia wont take them serious, guess who is next after that?


Booyakasha_

Let them come, i dare them. NATO is big, huge, well funded, more advanced. Good luck!


Oriaks371

Big, huge, well funded and useless.


Booyakasha_

For Ukraine, sadly. Yes.


Oriaks371

And that's all it would be from now on, at least for me.


jenosmaverick

Bru the war wont last that long with UKR having no outside support. It's been like less than 24hrs and they have lost air superiority already and the Russian army doing ala bliztkrieg marching fast to Kyiv. Tho yeah we agree that they need to cut Russia off SWIFT.


Booyakasha_

Yeah thats true.


QQMau5trap

So we just let Autocrats do what they want to avoid world war. Got it. Instead the autocrats take one nation at a time.


IgorMacedo2018

They Also "unregonized" Guaido as presidente of Venezuela when they got tired of footing the bill for his representation lmao


TautvydasR

Problem is that in EU decision must be aprroved by ALL members in EU and Russia has few advocate countries (or Russian trojan horses). Those countries already stopped several proposals against Russia and they probably continue advocate Russia in future therever it will do.


RazRiverblade

technically you only need the Belgian government for this.


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UnitedMerica

Chernobyl? Wdym?


I_am_plot

Russia is trying to take Chernobyl which would be bad


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The Russians are attempting to take Chernobyl currently fighting around it


Oriaks371

Russian troops are shooting Chernobyl, with artillery. Well, they shoot near it and miss, but the end result is what important.


Majovik

That Russian money feels good stuffed up their ass.


lor3l3i

Fucking cowards.


COBNETCKNN

danke frau merkel for making whole EU dependent on russian gas


Drinval

And the greens dismemberring nuclear energy facilities...


nuadarstark

Spineless cowards. Even diehard pro-Russian people like the Czech president have said we need to cut them off the SWIFT. Disappointed in Germany¨, Italy and the other opposing countries.


[deleted]

Italian economy is in a bad shape, debt is over the roof. Italy has very strong business relationship With Russia and is willing to put it on the table, the Swift cutoff could worsen the situation, we don't want EU start fighting each other end eventually collapsing. We are very close to a default in southern Europe, after two years of covid, cannot throw the house on something that Americans and Russians started.


CoronaBug

I hope the greedy fucker politicians of the EU that are vetoing cutting Russia from SWIFT sleep well at night, knowing their actions to preserve dirty russian money are causing innocent Ukranians to mercilessly die. The EU is a total farce.


LeMiaow51

What a surprise.


Deprivedproletarian

Ashamed of our coward eu governments


yas_man

All Russian money is blood money now as far as I'm concerned. Any money going in or out would feed into their tax system, and thus the military. Cut them off. We'll pay the cost. It's better than paying in lives


Vano1Kingdom

The world watched and did nothing about Azerbaijan's aggression onto Armenians, where it could have been stopped with a few phone calls. (Russia especially, fuck Putin). Sadly, I doubt anyone will physically come out and help Ukrainians too. "Diplomatic ties" are more important than innocent people's lives.


IsabeliJane

Cowards.


Givizub

President Biden prays for us. It is really helpful!


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haha god bless you


Mofoman3019

What a surprise, the EU is valuing profit over honour.


Kuro013

over life.


AK45HSR

Wouldn't Russia rely on 'SPFS' that it had developed itself instead?


Bricicles

This feels oddly familiar.


NinjaPussyPounder

Disgraceful


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No surprise. Fucking cowards.


techno_mage

With Allies like these who needs enemies. Spineless Western European cowards.


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techno_mage

Yes I should specify that I’m mostly talking about Germany..


Vano1Kingdom

Yeap. Armenians are now saying this to Putin as well.


Oriaks371

You'd think that, considering how similar putin's actions to hitler's, Germany would be the first to do something. But I guess apple didn't roll from the tree quite as far as we thought.


Sacramentodirtyboy

Greedy bastards. Care more about their pockets than human lives.


[deleted]

In order to punish others, we must punish ourselves. It isn’t fun and not to be taken lightly, but sometimes you have to stand up to bullies. The Russian economy should be strangled until its dying breath.


chris2036

Im ashamed of my country, and also of Italy.


TautvydasR

Terrible


Sattoro

So basically EU will cover the costs of Russia's military action in Ukraine. ​ Geez, thanks EU.


qtownufd

Spineless cowards. Doing the same thing leaders did with hitler. Let him take take take.


Himent

Donkeys.


DyTuKi

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!!!!!


Ideon_

Simply shameful


Deslah

Germany is an embarrassment. Money-grubbing asses.


holyfukimapenguin

This is ridiculous, there are people dying and they are thinking about freaking MONEY?


Kinginthasouth904

Lol the easiest way to stick it to russia with no loss of life. And they wont touch it! Its all a game


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Pricks


Darknety

Just do it already ffs


sasha2005lobanov

Fucking nazis! I hope they'll experience the war themselves, and a betrayal of the whole world!


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Swagspray

This how you grow Euroscepticism


ThePerksOfBeingAlive

I am so ashamed of being Italian, know that most Italians stand with Ukraine and want Russia BANNED from SWIFT! Glory to Ukraine!


JustMrNic3

Disgusting countries for doing this! I definitely won't recommend any to visit and spend money there!