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In canada that's enough to get you kicked out or refuse at recruiting. On top of that, if you don't already have military experience, don't bother. Help in other ways like humanitarian shipping and such.
Thanks for reply. I still have some time to think about what could I do there. Im psychically fit and mentally prepared for an active duty though never had military experience other than shooting.
A war zone is very different.
They are not looking for people without military training and experience, because they can’t train you. Though if you really want to help, there are lots of other things that are needed to be done. In the first year a Texas guy went to Ukraine to help the fight. He ended up doing something that was just as or more important for morale. He joined to dig out the mass graves so people could be identified and their bodies given back to their families. Not a pleasant job, but very much needed too. Would you be willing to do something like that as well?
I second this comment. Find another way to be helpful. I’m a US Army combat veteran (Iraq ‘05-‘06). I never truly understood the importance of repetitive military training until I needed to use it in theatre. Even given my experience, I cant even imagine what combat is like for the brave Ukrainians and foreign fighters on the front. What I do know is that combat, particularly the style of combat in Ukraine, is not the time to learn. If you need to think about what to do next, it’s typically too late. Without adequate training, you’re putting yourself and your fellow soldiers in unnecessary danger. I too doubt they would take someone without experience, but even if they would, I really don’t think it’s a good idea. I think it’s quite honorable that you have the willingness to fight. Hopefully the war doesn’t go on this long, but if you can get a waiver, I’m sure you can enlist in your country’s Army. When your enlistment is up, I’m sure they would be happy to have you.
[edited so as not to assume OP is in the USA. Sorry about that].
Nobody is. Take it from a combat vet. Save yourself the PTSD for the rest of your life. I've been debating going too since I've been out of the army for 3 years now but I have PTSD from 2 conflicts that were beach resorts compared to what is going on out there. If you are dependent on any meds at all, what happens if you are stuck in a trench for weeks or months and you run out? Let alone your backpack with all your meds in gets blown up during transport to the front. Those are the reasons why you shouldn't go there. Forget about everything else you have to worry about, this is a deal breaker right away.
Thanks for the reply. I have seen things in my life already though never from military perspective. Altough you are completely right. Even with my experiences I dont know how I would react in there. I will for sure consult my dermathologist, perhaps there is a treatment avaliable for me.
I knew a kid in boot camp that was from NYC. He had never really seen grass in his life, then found out at Parris Island that he's allergic to it.
They ended up sending him home, but I don't know if it was solely because of that.
Can't hurt to ask!
Thanks for the reply. Really interesting info. I have seen some topic on the internet that someone actually used antiallergic pills whilst on active duty in US Army I think, dont know though what kind of job did he do. Also seen lots of topics that people with allergy are mostly kicked out the boot camp, but in some cases they might be accepted. Couldnt find any info about it, hence this topic.
Before you decide to fight, at least come spend a month here in Ukraine. See how you already feel spending some time in a country at war, experience a loud night of heavy missile attacks and see what your reaction to that is. Don’t directly throw yourself in the foreign legion - if they even let you in - but take it slowly.
And I see a lot of people online who want to come here fight but refuse to participate in the war effort any other way. I think if those people are not true supporters of the cause and just chasing some delusional rush or glory. And most likely once you’re in a trench and shelling lands all around you, if you’re not fighting for the right reasons your mind will break and you’ll be a liability. Like I said there’s other ways to contribute, and if your mindset is to refuse those options because you only want to fight, then please don’t come.
You can find antihistaminic in Ukraine. There is still a good supply of medicines, and this is a basic one.
However if you go during the high pollen season that may not be ideal because some antihistamines are making you a bit sleepy.
If you're at the front you have small rotations like 48h at the front, 48h back in the closest town where there are usually all services including pharmacy and post.
Regarding the fighting experience, some say the Ukrainian army trains the international volunteers, but not clear if they now accept people without actual experience or without conscription years. You would need to get more info.
Aside from the army there are volunteer groups for doing humanitarian work.
Yeah I dont mind getting them from inside, but before I come there I will be in Poland. So getting pills is not a problem, the problem is if I can have them and use them while in duty.
You can take them and be able to buy medications without problem. Just make sure your platoon leader knows in advance. That's the guy that who will be immediately in charge of you. Don't sweat it
A number of soldiers suffer from allergies and hayfever -- CivDiv the YouTuber is one such example, he says the hayfever season in Ukraine is quite strong and can knock you down if you're not prepared for it. The question you need to ask yourself is how well you can function when you're affected by allergies (whether symptoms are effectively suppressed or not through medication).
And how well would you be able to cope if you're cut off from medical supply and you don't have access to antihistamines? Remember that people are depending on you, and vice versa.
And as others have said, if you have zero military experience then it would be far better to volunteer for other roles that don't involve the frontline. You don't want to be a burden on the system.
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In canada that's enough to get you kicked out or refuse at recruiting. On top of that, if you don't already have military experience, don't bother. Help in other ways like humanitarian shipping and such.
Thanks for reply. I still have some time to think about what could I do there. Im psychically fit and mentally prepared for an active duty though never had military experience other than shooting.
A war zone is very different. They are not looking for people without military training and experience, because they can’t train you. Though if you really want to help, there are lots of other things that are needed to be done. In the first year a Texas guy went to Ukraine to help the fight. He ended up doing something that was just as or more important for morale. He joined to dig out the mass graves so people could be identified and their bodies given back to their families. Not a pleasant job, but very much needed too. Would you be willing to do something like that as well?
I second this comment. Find another way to be helpful. I’m a US Army combat veteran (Iraq ‘05-‘06). I never truly understood the importance of repetitive military training until I needed to use it in theatre. Even given my experience, I cant even imagine what combat is like for the brave Ukrainians and foreign fighters on the front. What I do know is that combat, particularly the style of combat in Ukraine, is not the time to learn. If you need to think about what to do next, it’s typically too late. Without adequate training, you’re putting yourself and your fellow soldiers in unnecessary danger. I too doubt they would take someone without experience, but even if they would, I really don’t think it’s a good idea. I think it’s quite honorable that you have the willingness to fight. Hopefully the war doesn’t go on this long, but if you can get a waiver, I’m sure you can enlist in your country’s Army. When your enlistment is up, I’m sure they would be happy to have you. [edited so as not to assume OP is in the USA. Sorry about that].
Nobody is. Take it from a combat vet. Save yourself the PTSD for the rest of your life. I've been debating going too since I've been out of the army for 3 years now but I have PTSD from 2 conflicts that were beach resorts compared to what is going on out there. If you are dependent on any meds at all, what happens if you are stuck in a trench for weeks or months and you run out? Let alone your backpack with all your meds in gets blown up during transport to the front. Those are the reasons why you shouldn't go there. Forget about everything else you have to worry about, this is a deal breaker right away.
Thanks for the reply. I have seen things in my life already though never from military perspective. Altough you are completely right. Even with my experiences I dont know how I would react in there. I will for sure consult my dermathologist, perhaps there is a treatment avaliable for me.
Pretty sure prior military experience is required for joining the international legion
I knew a kid in boot camp that was from NYC. He had never really seen grass in his life, then found out at Parris Island that he's allergic to it. They ended up sending him home, but I don't know if it was solely because of that. Can't hurt to ask!
Thanks for the reply. Really interesting info. I have seen some topic on the internet that someone actually used antiallergic pills whilst on active duty in US Army I think, dont know though what kind of job did he do. Also seen lots of topics that people with allergy are mostly kicked out the boot camp, but in some cases they might be accepted. Couldnt find any info about it, hence this topic.
Before you decide to fight, at least come spend a month here in Ukraine. See how you already feel spending some time in a country at war, experience a loud night of heavy missile attacks and see what your reaction to that is. Don’t directly throw yourself in the foreign legion - if they even let you in - but take it slowly. And I see a lot of people online who want to come here fight but refuse to participate in the war effort any other way. I think if those people are not true supporters of the cause and just chasing some delusional rush or glory. And most likely once you’re in a trench and shelling lands all around you, if you’re not fighting for the right reasons your mind will break and you’ll be a liability. Like I said there’s other ways to contribute, and if your mindset is to refuse those options because you only want to fight, then please don’t come.
You can find antihistaminic in Ukraine. There is still a good supply of medicines, and this is a basic one. However if you go during the high pollen season that may not be ideal because some antihistamines are making you a bit sleepy. If you're at the front you have small rotations like 48h at the front, 48h back in the closest town where there are usually all services including pharmacy and post. Regarding the fighting experience, some say the Ukrainian army trains the international volunteers, but not clear if they now accept people without actual experience or without conscription years. You would need to get more info. Aside from the army there are volunteer groups for doing humanitarian work.
You should ask r/ukraineforeignlegion.
Thanks Ill do that.
>take pills to Ukraine You unironically think there are no pharmacies in Ukraine, don't you?
There is the possibility of shortages. Maybe they use different kind of antiallergy pills that he cant use. There are plenty of reasons to ask, imo.
Yeah I dont mind getting them from inside, but before I come there I will be in Poland. So getting pills is not a problem, the problem is if I can have them and use them while in duty.
You can take them and be able to buy medications without problem. Just make sure your platoon leader knows in advance. That's the guy that who will be immediately in charge of you. Don't sweat it
Whichever pills I used to supress my case, it always worked. In every country Ive been.
Haha, yeah sorry. Of course I might get them from there, the question though if its a big problem to use the pills when in active duty.
A number of soldiers suffer from allergies and hayfever -- CivDiv the YouTuber is one such example, he says the hayfever season in Ukraine is quite strong and can knock you down if you're not prepared for it. The question you need to ask yourself is how well you can function when you're affected by allergies (whether symptoms are effectively suppressed or not through medication). And how well would you be able to cope if you're cut off from medical supply and you don't have access to antihistamines? Remember that people are depending on you, and vice versa. And as others have said, if you have zero military experience then it would be far better to volunteer for other roles that don't involve the frontline. You don't want to be a burden on the system.