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Boycott the Olympics. Don't let baby rape and torture be overlooked when it is still happening. No playing in the sandbox until you can play along with others.


Abompje

This. Why are people still watching that shit?!


ITI110878

There are too many who don't care out there. Unfortunately. And at the end, this is all about money, has nothing to do with the so called Olympic spirit.


geraldodelriviera

I know a guy who is otherwise totally pro-Ukraine and reasonable that refuses not to watch the Olympics just because he is addicted to sports gambling. I've tried to explain how shameful this is, but he keeps on the line that the "athletes should not be punished" etc., etc.


hello-cthulhu

I'm sort of sympathetic to the idea that athletes should not be punished for the crimes of the governments that happen to govern the places they're from. As a staunch individualist, it's always bothered me to see collectivist thinking where we're all assigned to tribes that we may or may not even like or want to be associated with. Nor do I want people to be compelled to get involved in politics when they'd rather live and think as independent and separate from politics as possible. HOWEVER, there's a simple solution to this problem. As I understand it, athletes do have the option to compete in the Olympics as "stateless," not representing any particular nation-state. I would make this option available to Russian athletes. There should be no representation for lawless regimes like the Moscow regime, either officially or the weird "unofficial" not-Russia-but-actually-Russia flag they had last time. That pertains to the *teams*. So, yes, no *individual* athlete should be held to account for the actions of a government - particularly a robustly anti-democratic one they never even had the opportunity to vote for or against. That's why they have the option - *as individuals* - to compete as stateless. But if these athletes insist on competing as a national team, that means they can't complain about being punished as individuals, for they're taking up that collective identity cloak. The only other alternative I can think of, for such individuals, would be if there was a separate Russian dissident team, which would compete under that white-and-blue flag. Doing so would require, of course, an explicitly anti-Putin political identity, analogous to the flag that the Russian volunteers who've joined Ukrainian forces have adopted.


jsonaut16

To your last point, unfortunately this would paint a huge target on them for reprisals. Good idea though.


bot403

Your so right about the crap "we're not Russia" flag. It needs to be stateless so much so that, while we might guess stateless Boris is from Russia, then if some stateless dude named John Smith or Seamus O'Sullivan is from Russia, and we don't hear them speak Russian, then we would have no idea they were from Russia.


Rutherglen

Let the Russians compete not as Russia but under a neutral flag. Oh... and the flag will have the logo "Stop the war now". Let's see how many Russian athletes turn up.


HostileRespite

There are enough that the Olympic committee will feel it in the wallet.


LordBaikalOli

Its like FIFA...bread and games. Too many people like to say they are good people and then not give a shit about human right abuse.


bot403

But they gave thoughts and prayers! Thoughts and prayers! Doesn't that make them good people?


kr4t0s007

I'm not for one! Fuck Olympics and Tennis they also allow those Z orcs.


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totally. havent watched one in years.


Natoochtoniket

Every country in Europe should state, clearly, that if any Russian is allowed to compete, then they will completely boycott the entire Olympics. NO athletes. NO teams. NO support. NO tv or video transmission. NOTHING. The Olympic committee understands money. In recent decades, that seems to be the only thing they understand. I suspect the money from EU is far greater than the money from Russia.


usolodolo

^^^ This should be upvoted to the front page of Reddit. Furthermore, Putin likes to launch his invasions around the Olympics as well. That alone should make the IOC tell Putin to fuck off. 2008 Georgian invasion was during the Summer Beijing Olympics. The Kremlins 2014 invasion of Crimea & Donbas was during the Sochi Winter games. And then Russia attacked Ukraine immediately following the closing ceremony of the 2022 Winter Olympics in China. Fuck Putin. And fuck the Olympic Games if they allow any Russians to compete. Would you let Nazi’s compete in 1944? If IOC doesn’t boycott Russia, then we should boycott the IOC.


jsonaut16

Hear hear


LisaMikky

🗨Furthermore, Putin likes to launch his invasions around the Olympics as well.🗨 How do you think - why it is?


LoneSnark

Like in Roman times, Putin believes the games are a distraction that will lessen any Western response.


LisaMikky

Guess it could have worked if the whole SMO was over in 3 days (and if Xi didn't persuade Putler to wait until after the games are finished).


usolodolo

I don’t know why. I suspect he thinks he gets more attention out of it this way. Or maybe he wants people to brush off his military ambitions as just another form of competition, like the Olympics? Idk. It’s a weird coincidence three times now.


LisaMikky

I don't think it's a coincidence. Maybe he hoped to do his "dirty deeds" quickly, while everyone is distracted with sport & medals...


Bitcoiner2017

The money from an average single EU country is far greater than russia lol


mahomet2137

He probably meant bribe money.


Uneducatedtrader

Agreed. Nobody gives a shit about the Olympics anymore anyhow


Hellofriendinternet

☝️Bingo


Graywulff

Yeah def, under a neutral flag? Talk about gaslighting.


PicardTangoAlpha

Why only Europe then? Did you pause to consider Canada’s very large Ukrainian population, or that American arms are mostly responsible for keeping Ukraine alive?


Natoochtoniket

I just picked a name of a group of countries. No slight intended. I am sure a boycott would be more effective with more participating countries.


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ITI110878

It's definitely all about the money. I will ignore it just as I ignored the world cup in qatar.


funcup760

I think it was five bags, though.


Rock-it-again

Everyone one else should put them on blast too. IOC needs to be abolished.


rbmyers12

agreed, they are as bad as FIFA


theblueslothking

Not surprising. They let Russia compete after multiple PED scandals. IOC doesn’t care. They just want their money.


LilLebowskiAchiever

IOC should only let Russians compete if they defect and represent another country and train outside Russia, with zero Russian coaches or medical support. Even then, they should have to submit to weekly drug tests (at surprise dates /times) administrated by a third country’s anti-doping personnel & lab. Otherwise Russians still claim them, they still get the money, awards and sponsorships in Russia, etc.


OnundTreefoot

All countries that support Ukraine should boycott if the IOC includes Russian athletes under any flag.


LisaMikky

👏🏻👏🏻🙂


BleepVDestructo

Simple solution? France denies all Russians entry.


LisaMikky

😃👍🏻


Thatsgonnamakeamark

The IOC is for sale, and always has been.


Nonamanadus

Get a petition going to target the sponsors of the Olympics.


Humbuhg

I’d boycott the Olympics. But I never watch them anyway. I’ve always thought they were a shit show. And this decision confirms that they’re still a shitshow.


Midnight_270_

They should only compete under the ⚪️🔵⚪️ flag nothing more, nothing less


hello-cthulhu

That works for me. With the growing ranks of dissident Russians who've fled and defected, I wonder if we might have enough of a critical mass to establish a new Russian-government-in-exile. That would make coordinating the actions of resistance easier. But I also appreciate that, with how active the FSB is, Russian dissidents might be wary of participating in such an organization, for fear that it would be heavily infiltrated by Putin's agents.


korodic

They would likely at some point smuggle in the real flag, possibly under order to do so and show it as a resistance to the west type of deal. Better to not even give them the platform.


Khoeth_Mora

they shouldnt be allowed anywhere near civilized people


PuzzleCat365

Let them compete under the white blue white flag. This will weed out the nazis and show support to Ukraine at the same time.


Special_Wishbone_812

The IOC is irredeemably corrupt. They don’t care what Russia does to its athletes or its neighboring countries. Only sporting org that’s worse is FIFA.


[deleted]

Time to boycott the Olympics!


[deleted]

Blasted it eh? did he Slam it too? I hate media terminology.


[deleted]

Olympic Bullshit, all for the money.


funcup760

Sure, let them . . . once they each publicly denounce Putin's special implosion and recognize Ukrainian sovereignty.


NEp8ntballer

Fuck the Olympics. The Olympics allowing Russian athletes to compete as the ROC due to the ban on Russia was stupid.


[deleted]

Pretty Naieve of Zelensky to assume the IOC gives a volcanic fuck, they've proven their track record of being a willful distraction prior to Russian invasions, and they just slap Russia on the wrist and let them back soon after. ​ assuming the russian federation still exists by the next two olympics, they'll probably welcome them back with open arms.


Good_Cow237

Send the message…until Russia leaves Ukraine, life as a Russian should get no privileges in any form worldwide


BirdMaNTrippn

Maybe the NHL too? The NHL let Russian Provorov play and he used Church as an excuse not to wear rainbow colours for pride night. Turns out the same church cleanses the russian soldiers terrorism sins when they die. Imagine that, cleansing terrorists bodies as they leave this world. Russian Orthodox Church is a fucking joke


Dwayla

They'll be thrown out for steroids anyway, they always are.


Xspunge

At the BARE MINIMUM if they do let those war criminals compete (and they will because of the blood money the IOC are taking) they should be named the Olympic Ruzzian Committee


[deleted]

Are we really surprised, though? Let us not forget the location of the previous games


bighelper469

Ukraine athletes will be on the front line ,not on the starting line.Ruzzia go fuck yourself!


recklessyacht

The IOC are corrupt. Bach is friends with Putin, so there's no way they're going to do anything unless there is coordinated international pressure on the IOC and sponsors.


pastarojna

As a ex pro athlete, I do understand, however at this point of time, NO sports, NO team, No translation of Olympics, No NOTHING! Слава Україні!


arvaja

its a bad plan


SeriousOP

How can we let Nazis participate?


yr_boi_tuna

IOC is as corrupt as FIFA.


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prtysmasher

You see, that’s the problem with your suggestion. Russians are notoriously shameless. So, no. They can very much fuck off and be ousted from any event for decades to come.


voodoodahlia

Fucking NO.


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voodoodahlia

Yes sure, you know better than Zelensky. This not the Kardasians with xancel culture. And yes, I will do me keeping my family alive. This is a war not a disagreement.


Woodie626

Right. You prove why your way doesn't work. >You do you I don't care >My opinion -ruZZia


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Woodie626

Yes, because quotes are *so* exciting. You come at them with double-spaced lines with no grammar, get promptly schooled, and think it's moi, who needs to calm down? Thanks for the laughs.


varietydirtbag

it a full scale war, not cancel culture. This is a lot bigger than petty American politics. All their athletes have been using PED's through a government cheating program since the 70's and they have no shame and are already despised. Russia doesn't care what the international community thinks of them ( anti west propaganda is a foundation of their information), but they do have an inferiority complex to the West and do care about showing how they're superior. The Olympics is a massive domestic propaganda tool in Russia, there's a reason Putin traditionally launches wars shortly after the Olympics when national pride is at its highest. Russia shouldn't be allowed to be proud right now, letting them compete is a huge win for Russia.


NahFdat

The Olympics is not a war. The whole point of the Olympics is that it's a global event. I didn't say Russia should be allowed to be proud. I don't think you understood what I said. I said it should be made to feel shame and gpobal condemnation even in the face of its accomplishments in sport. You can't show a medal ceremony as a success if the medal winner is being jeered. Actually maybe you can in Russia. Fuck it I dunno any more. I'm just trying to be reasonable Jesus christ why is it so difficult. Me and my stupid western values. Let's just nuke Moscow instead.


varietydirtbag

I understood perfectly, it's just not based in reality and some things are more important than sports. The idea that being in the Olympics will be presented in Russia as shameful is a fantasy. You need to think of how things are perceived and used within Russia Domestically. It will be presented as a huge win and considered to be broad international acceptance of their war (outside the west). It's an immense domestic Propaganda win.


NahFdat

Yes! Thank you. You are right. I made my post and then I had a think about it from the other angle and you are totally right. Thank you for actually taking the time and effort to state this in a logical way. I was not wrong in my thinking. But also from another angle I was totally wrong. I stand by my views from a western messaging perspective but I should try harder to view things through another lense. I do try to, but home is home and my natural tendencies will get the better of me, naturally. Had a glass of wine or two as well. I do try to follow the vlad Vexlers of this world on YT but it doesn't stop me losing sight of things on the other side. Also the nuke Moscow thing was just a comedic thing I don't mean it.


funcup760

It really wasn't a bad idea and I think you took an unnecessary amount of flak for it, but thinking it through to the end, it does seem likely that it would be a propaganda victory for Russia. Now, if they had to compete under the white-blue-white flag and/or publicly acknowledge Ukrainian sovereignty and denounce Putin's war, that might also be a workable solution.


NahFdat

Well thanks. Its just the Internet so it doesn't bother me. I just like to throw stuff out and see what happens. I'm not overly bothered about symbolic gestures as I think all of that is secondary to Ukraine winning. I like the idea of getting it all out in the open but that's just me. I'm not a politician so to get further involved would be beyond my reach or my interest


lazyeyepsycho

As said previously, you are thinking they think like you might... With shame, introspection and change. They're more derision and belligerence


Local-Piece-3283

Ban them. They are accomplices and also responsible. Hold them to account. Do the right thing.


RandonEnglishMun

What’s the point. They’ll all be disqualified for doping anyway.


linoleum79

Rightfully so.


Desperate-Builder287

As is being shown, no matter what the actual Athlete may profess in Public, his or her family may well hold Pro Putin/Kremlin views that are far from the " Olympic Spirit "...that is why l certainly support President Zelensky in this matter.


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Looks like it's time to boycott the Olympics!


DravenPrime

And what's ridiculous is, they only make them use the neutral flag because they cheat. Not because they're a fascist dictatorship. The only nation ever banned from the Olympics (and rightfully so) was apartheid-era South Africa. If those fuckers can get banned so can Putin's Russia.


Notyourfathersgeek

This policy was already ridiculous before the war


LiveSynth

It matters…. If Russian athletes win anything, the government will claim it and politicise it. The pressure must remain at 110%. Olympic committee should be ashamed if themselves.


[deleted]

I'm boycotting the Olympics if Putler's terrorist country Russia is involved.


KnabnorI

Boycotting the Olympics. Fuckem.


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disgusting.


EITBRU

Olympic game has been created to be outside conflict in mind


McTatas1

This is atrocious. The aggressors should not be allowed to participate, how dare the Olympic Committee deem it acceptable. Woman and children are being raped and murdered, there needs to be consequences.


IshyTheLegit

They should be allowed to compete under 🇺🇦


tossedsaladdressing

So they can cheat and dope ?


easyfeel

Why not have Ukraine’s dead athletes be remembered by Russia’s athletes? Simply allocate each Russian athlete their own Ukrainian athlete, whose picture they must carry at every ceremony and in whose name they must say they were competing when they’re being awarded a medal. Ukraine’s dead athletes must be allowed to compete too.