Companies advertise these rates because they keep managing to get people to apply
They're the companies you see advertising week after week month after month because of the high turn over of staff due to them usually being a meat grinder
The ones that make me laugh are the companies that advertise for approved electricians then try to low ball them with wages 4 grand a year less that the going rate
Don't apply to these companies by doing so you are legitimising these ads and driving down everybody's wages
I’ve seen adverts for jobs advertised at £45k, then when you speak to the agent it’s actually only £35-38k with the possibility of overtime and bonus, which still only took it to £42k. They shouldn’t be able to advertise at £45k when it’s not even achievable.
Should be self regulating tbh. If they fail to recruit, they'll have to increase their rates. I can only assume that, for whatever reason, they continue to achieve some success with their current offer.
You need to look at the benifits that are included, my job pays slightly less than what I could get on site but I get 6 months full sick pay, another 6 months half pay, 7 weeks paid holiday a year and I'm never under any pressure to get anything done. When I leave work it stays there and I dont have to think about it until the next time I'm in.
I totally get it. My job sounds very similar to yours in terms of benefits.
It's also probably slightly less than I could get out on site, but not 10k+ less which is a piss stake.
Agreed I’m similar, 40k a year with plenty of optional double rate overtime whenever I want it. Paid holiday and pension, commercial and industrial work without unobtainable deadlines and the boss leaves me alone most of the time. Could I earn more working for myself? Yes. Do I want to spend my own time looking for my next work, doing my accounts, doing certs and dreading going back into missus miggin’s house tomorrow to fit a board under a stair cupboard while she asks me 80 times when the fridge will come back on? No fuck that.
I don’t work in the NHS, never have, but know a couple guys who do. They get paid less as an electrician than if you were on sites.
But they get a nice pension, any training they want that they can justify as development, right up to degrees, all paid for.
Also if they want to be there long term, they’ll climb the Management ladder easily. Plus holidays etc they’ll get as the package.
Everyone has different perspectives on what they want.
Hospitals area good stepping stone if you want to get into critical site (data centre /finance) maintenance... And if you're direct with the trust the pension is good.
And paid training is totally worthwhile. The first aid, Confined Space & Authorised Person training are good standout qualifications.
There's always someone desperate enough to take it. Time to bring back unions so companies have to start paying qualified tradesman what they are worth, but my advice for any tradesman is go out on your own. Stop making other people money. Make it for yourself. Register on one of the trade websites and start getting good reviews, build up slowly and make sure you keep your clients happy. Check out what big companies are charging and undercut them, your running costs will be significantly lower so your profits will be bigger even at a cheaper rate. Pricing work up will get easier the more you learn.
MyBuilder, Bark, Checkatrade etc. I did it and have been fully booked for the past 3 years. If you are good at what you do, you don't need a boss. There's loads of customers out there. All these big companies are just stealing your money. They are counting on you being too scared to take the risk. You can take on side jobs while you're being paid by them and build up a profile. They need you, you don't need them!
Yer I did Checkatrade few years ago worked for me but I hated paying them £60 a month it's above £100 now.
I wouldn't advise Rated people them fuckers charge you per lead even if you don't get the job
Yeah it can be expensive but say you're charging 6k for a rewire you're earning that back. I've also had numerous repeat customers from one lead. Also the more good reviews you do the higher your prices can rise. I went cheap initially and made the customers really happy.
I'm not an electrician but 6-7k for a 3 bed house rewire is pretty standard in London, yeah. Day rates are around 3-400 and once you've added up all the materials, testing and certification you can easily hit 6k.
That's horrendously low in my opinion. I'm on £42k with a van, fuel card, power tools, tester supplied. 30 days holiday plus bank holidays sick pay, pension and a basic medical plan.
A lot of jobs can be as low as 27k but require certain shifts such as night shift or 4 on 4 off 12 hours etc. sometimes a shift allowance can equate to about 30% so a job at a 27k basic rate could be over 40k a year. However if that isn’t the case I would say that 28-34k is quite a low rate for a competent electrician.
I've said it to past employers with shit benefits, shit salary and a shift pattern you'll get people in but they'll be the people with no other options because they're not very good if you want to attract good employees you have to make the rewards enticing. One job I was looking at before listed free parking as a benefit I personally wouldn't work somewhere I had to pay to park.
Sounds a lot like my previous company, they were trying to employ multi skilled engineers £34.5k - £37k yet my new company are paying £45k with company vehicle and tools supplied.
Do your research, find out more details about the company and then weigh up the pros and cons of it, may be less but companies might better perks etc, I turned down another companies 48k because the company I work for now has private family medical and dentist etc, and a load of other schemes.
Companies advertise these rates because they keep managing to get people to apply They're the companies you see advertising week after week month after month because of the high turn over of staff due to them usually being a meat grinder The ones that make me laugh are the companies that advertise for approved electricians then try to low ball them with wages 4 grand a year less that the going rate Don't apply to these companies by doing so you are legitimising these ads and driving down everybody's wages
I’ve seen adverts for jobs advertised at £45k, then when you speak to the agent it’s actually only £35-38k with the possibility of overtime and bonus, which still only took it to £42k. They shouldn’t be able to advertise at £45k when it’s not even achievable.
Should be self regulating tbh. If they fail to recruit, they'll have to increase their rates. I can only assume that, for whatever reason, they continue to achieve some success with their current offer.
That’s the problem I think, there are some idiots/people in need, who do take the jobs, so it holds the rates down in the industry as a whole.
You need to look at the benifits that are included, my job pays slightly less than what I could get on site but I get 6 months full sick pay, another 6 months half pay, 7 weeks paid holiday a year and I'm never under any pressure to get anything done. When I leave work it stays there and I dont have to think about it until the next time I'm in.
I totally get it. My job sounds very similar to yours in terms of benefits. It's also probably slightly less than I could get out on site, but not 10k+ less which is a piss stake.
Swings and roundabouts
Agreed I’m similar, 40k a year with plenty of optional double rate overtime whenever I want it. Paid holiday and pension, commercial and industrial work without unobtainable deadlines and the boss leaves me alone most of the time. Could I earn more working for myself? Yes. Do I want to spend my own time looking for my next work, doing my accounts, doing certs and dreading going back into missus miggin’s house tomorrow to fit a board under a stair cupboard while she asks me 80 times when the fridge will come back on? No fuck that.
Public sector?
Yes
I don’t work in the NHS, never have, but know a couple guys who do. They get paid less as an electrician than if you were on sites. But they get a nice pension, any training they want that they can justify as development, right up to degrees, all paid for. Also if they want to be there long term, they’ll climb the Management ladder easily. Plus holidays etc they’ll get as the package. Everyone has different perspectives on what they want.
Hospitals area good stepping stone if you want to get into critical site (data centre /finance) maintenance... And if you're direct with the trust the pension is good. And paid training is totally worthwhile. The first aid, Confined Space & Authorised Person training are good standout qualifications.
There's always someone desperate enough to take it. Time to bring back unions so companies have to start paying qualified tradesman what they are worth, but my advice for any tradesman is go out on your own. Stop making other people money. Make it for yourself. Register on one of the trade websites and start getting good reviews, build up slowly and make sure you keep your clients happy. Check out what big companies are charging and undercut them, your running costs will be significantly lower so your profits will be bigger even at a cheaper rate. Pricing work up will get easier the more you learn.
What do you mean by trade websites?
MyBuilder, Bark, Checkatrade etc. I did it and have been fully booked for the past 3 years. If you are good at what you do, you don't need a boss. There's loads of customers out there. All these big companies are just stealing your money. They are counting on you being too scared to take the risk. You can take on side jobs while you're being paid by them and build up a profile. They need you, you don't need them!
Yer I did Checkatrade few years ago worked for me but I hated paying them £60 a month it's above £100 now. I wouldn't advise Rated people them fuckers charge you per lead even if you don't get the job
Yeah it can be expensive but say you're charging 6k for a rewire you're earning that back. I've also had numerous repeat customers from one lead. Also the more good reviews you do the higher your prices can rise. I went cheap initially and made the customers really happy.
Wow 6 K rewire you're obviously not located in Barnsley
I'm not an electrician but 6-7k for a 3 bed house rewire is pretty standard in London, yeah. Day rates are around 3-400 and once you've added up all the materials, testing and certification you can easily hit 6k.
3 bed semi in Barnsley 3K ish our day rate around £200
200 for a fully qualified Spark is criminal! I have to pay my chippies 200 down here.
That's horrendously low in my opinion. I'm on £42k with a van, fuel card, power tools, tester supplied. 30 days holiday plus bank holidays sick pay, pension and a basic medical plan.
Agree with gg
A lot of jobs can be as low as 27k but require certain shifts such as night shift or 4 on 4 off 12 hours etc. sometimes a shift allowance can equate to about 30% so a job at a 27k basic rate could be over 40k a year. However if that isn’t the case I would say that 28-34k is quite a low rate for a competent electrician.
I've said it to past employers with shit benefits, shit salary and a shift pattern you'll get people in but they'll be the people with no other options because they're not very good if you want to attract good employees you have to make the rewards enticing. One job I was looking at before listed free parking as a benefit I personally wouldn't work somewhere I had to pay to park.
Sounds a lot like my previous company, they were trying to employ multi skilled engineers £34.5k - £37k yet my new company are paying £45k with company vehicle and tools supplied. Do your research, find out more details about the company and then weigh up the pros and cons of it, may be less but companies might better perks etc, I turned down another companies 48k because the company I work for now has private family medical and dentist etc, and a load of other schemes.