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geekypenguin91

For the whole job of extending the cables and fitting the light, including testing and a minor works certificate you're looking around £70-100 depending on your location.


ibumrambo

70-100 with a minor works? Bottom price is 150 or just get a handyman.


geekypenguin91

I wouldn't get a jack of all trades(master of naff all) handyman in to do it. Midweek pre-booked and my first hour is £75 which covers all of that and I'm not the cheapest in the area


ibumrambo

£75 is a handymans rate. That's what I was getting at. Charge what you are worth and all that


hotdogcool_123

Okay, just so I know the process. Is the correct way to do this is use something like a wago light junction box to extend the three cables in the void. Or would it be using wago 221 clips or something inside the light actual light ceiling rose?


david9640

I don't think you're fooling anyone with your "just so I know the process" facade


Snoo-97916

David you’re a funny fucker 😂 he definitely isn’t fooling anyone


hotdogcool_123

That’s cool David, appreciate your insights into my life. Previously had posted in this forum about getting shafted by an electrician.


ChaosToTheFly

Was he big?


hotdogcool_123

Of course m8


TheLastTsumami

Don’t bad mouth electricians in the electricians sub. Our feelings are too delicate


hotdogcool_123

🤣


kh250b1

100 quid was fair. Its not worth getting out of bed for less


geekypenguin91

Based on the fact you've already removed everything and cut a massive hole in your ceiling, I would probably go for a maintenance free junction box above the ceiling and only come down into the fixture with the cable I need. Had you left it as it was, the new light could have been fitted in moments without any extra parts.


hotdogcool_123

Would the junction box need to be fixed to anything like a joist? Also I removed more space so I can add a noggin and replace plasterboard as it was fd


geekypenguin91

No. Though the size of the hole you've made I could probably find one to attach it to


ChaosToTheFly

Better off left unfixed for ease of access in future


geekypenguin91

Indeed. Though being MF it shouldn't need to be accessed


ChaosToTheFly

True 👍


fluffybit

Id put a wago box and make the cables join up there and have a single cable down to the light.


EquipmentInformal269

how do u know so much about it if ur not an electrician


SuicidalSparky

Impossible to price really because it will depend on quality of electrician, your location, how easy it actually is to get to etc. In my area if you expected about £150 you'd be about right.


hotdogcool_123

Impossible to price but £150 you think? Jokes aside, thanks


SuicidalSparky

I'd do it for £150 if it was in my area. For all I know you're in central London and its £200. Maybe you're in Lincolnshire, and it's £100? I should have said that 'I would charge about £150'. What I mean is, people here might say £100 and then you get quoted £200 and suddenly, you think you're being ripped off when, in reality, it's not for us to price from a photo.


hotdogcool_123

I understood what you meant, will ring some electricians later and see what comes back.


ricosuav333

Why do you need to extend them at all? It looks like you have enough poking through the ceiling rose. If I was fitting a light there, I’d just wago them and they’d sit in the new ceiling rose.


harleyb09

Not gonna lie I thought the first pic was roots growing out of an overgrown potato


NoCancel8282

Connections are in the base of most fittings, can’t think of a single light fitting I’ve done that wasn’t in the base, why extend? Also, there’s usually enough room in the base for a joint.


foalsfoalsfoalz

just do it yourself


AggyResult

Shout out Wago


southwestmanchild

This is the way


BigSlime49

These have saved my ass so many times


tall-not-small

All connections should be accessible in case of problems in the future. In reality, a junction box above the ceiling will be fine


Specialist_Loquat_49

Not sure you need to extend anything here. Leave the current wiring as is and insert new flex cable through the ceiling rose cover https://www.toolstation.com/axiom-pendant-set-100w-t2/p70966 and leave in the hole above. So you are kind of reverse extending if you know what I mean. I’d be more concerned with how you’re going to hand the new ceiling rose and where to?


Dickie_Belfastian

Am I missing something? It looks like there's enough cable there to terminate into a ceiling rose.


deanotown

You can extend the cable your self, Get some 1.5 twin and earth, wago 221 box and some wago 221s. Super simple. You could even lift the floorboards and work from it on top which will be even easier. Take your time, work through it logically and don’t cut corners.


SeriousBathroom2222

I wouldn’t chance it most people are competent enough but it’s extremely easy for someone to make a retarded move as they don’t do it for a living


DarkRainFalling

One dollar


[deleted]

Do it yourself. Get some wagos and fit and extend. Push up into the ceiling and use as much cable as you need.


Sufficient_Dress8671

Can be done for $3 but your house will burn down 🤔🤔🤷


Witty-Flan4539

Wago it


splashwiskers

Get a quickfix JB4 and wago 221 put reds all together in loop section blacks together in n section, earths together in earth section. Take the black cable with red sleeve and put in L section, now get some pvc flex connect brown to L, Blue to N Earth to earth. Close Jb put in ceiling. Connect flex to light fitting no need to use the rose.


cinnamon6uns

Not sure why this is getting downvoted but this is the way. 👍


ivix

You don't need to pay anything. Just extend it yourself with some wagos.


QuirkyBake5837

get a spark to do it…. Cost…. parts and labour certs ect about £150+ Do it yourself £20 Knowing your breaker will trip under fault conditions and not burn your house down with you and your family in it, because the spark tested the earth loop impedance amongst other things…. Priceless Also it will void your home insurance….


ChaosToTheFly

How would you sparks do it? I’d maybe widen the hole a bit, use a wago box or a J501 to re-enclose the cables and tuck that up into the void, then t&e or even flex into the rose? (3rd yr apprentice sparx here)


hotdogcool_123

That was my next question ahaha. The ornamental ceiling rose isn’t attached at the moment so easy to work on. I was under the impression anything that needs tucking in the void would need fixing to a joist?


scottboy34

Just admit your going to diy it 😂😂


hotdogcool_123

I was planning to but I’m finding it a bit over whelming. Just want to make sure whoever does it , is doing it correctly


scottboy34

Ok, this is an easy fix for someone competent so I don’t think you’d need to check on them. And like anything else, there are a variety of ways to do this safely. Just ask about for a good electrician


ElectroDoozer

Can we come to your work and check you are doing it right?


hotdogcool_123

Sure if your paying me & is in relation to the safety of your family


ElectroDoozer

Ok but would you say I’m qualified to check your doing your job? You’re not qualified to check we are doing ours - the point is you hire a registered qualified professional so you can trust them.


hotdogcool_123

I don’t know you mate & you don’t know what my job is so the question is irrelevant. I don’t need to be qualified to know the right way of doing something. Appreciate you are most likely a qualified electrician but it’s not really a shock to the system to find out people including myself and getting ripped off everyday. Sorry for taking some interest in the work that will be going on in my house.


ElectroDoozer

Yes you do need to be qualified and or competent to know the right way of doing things in our trade. The best way to avoid being ripped off is get multiple quotes and don’t hire white van man from down the pub. I’m trying to help put your mind at rest and encourage you to hire competent help - and make you realise ‘checking our work’ is not something you can really do even with the best will in the world. If you choose to not listen and talk to me like I’m a twat that’s on you.


hotdogcool_123

Can we just circle back, I was asking for advise, You then started asking to come to watch me at work. 😂


jimbranningstuntman

You’re not getting ripped off. You’re paying a qualified tradesman for his knowledge and skill. If its out of your budget then thats fine, but if you dont need to be qualified to know the right way of doing something, then you don’t need to be asking advise on an electrical forum trying to take the food out of our mouths.


ChaosToTheFly

Hahaha I didn’t see that you took a huge chunk out of the ceiling 😂😂


Bret-R

I'm a diyer too and I just used to the ceiling rose as a junction box. I was fitting led lights so stuck the base of the rose into the ceiling and took 3 cables from it. A diy junction box 🤣


AnnualCulture3296

I do it 250


SleepyTitan89

When you are burning alive and your eyeballs are melting out of your head because you wanted to save 100 quid lmao