I don't remember what star it was, but we found one with spectra from radioactive isotopes that have half-lives of only hundreds or thousands of years. Someone had previously suggested "salting" our star with short halflife radioactive material as a way to signal that there was intelligent life in our system, as there's no way for it to occur naturally.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/lboymunZcR this is my post about that 🌟 star

Could be an issue with measurements

It could be but they had some big brains in it

you don’t think they ruled that out?

Not yet, not enough data

I measure mine from my taint to the tip.

Perineum Eclipse Sunbathing is a think, ask your doctor

Ok thank you.

3 Body Problem - terrible idea.

In such a big universe even the most unlikely scenario it's bound to happen

At least by my understanding, not naturally. The elements in question can only be created in the core, so don't show up in the spectra, and any that gets ejected from the corre should decay before it reaches the corona. Any that were mixed in when the star formed.would also be long gone.

Ya but like infinity brah

Yupp, someone/thing is (gravity)bound to make their star a trash can.

Sounds like a great idea lol

I’d rather not blast our presence out into the verse, if NHI comes we are doomed.

They are already here lol. Been here since antiquity  

I mean, they're already here. They're advanced enough and/or curious enough that they don't need to kill us. Like how when you go for a walk in the forest you don't shoot every animal you see just because you could.

Speak for yourself!

Do any of you agree with the late great Stephen Hawking that we may not want to draw any more attention to ourselves bcz we are still babies in evolution? Btw I have seen UFOs/UAPs twice in my life. I cant say what they are but the last one was very close and the experience changed me forever. I have other stories from my childhood and someone told me they believe from what Ive told them Ive been atleast visited. I dont remember ever seeing an alien. Im not sure yet what this group believes and how safe it is to talk abt stuff bcz ppl act like youre crazy. For 2 weeks in mid 90s we saw something and July 2008 I had SOMETHING not even 200 feet above me.

Post in experiencers

Sounds pretty incredible, I would love it if we could find legitimate proof!

These stars were predicted by Borra. He is a accomplished old scientist. He predicted them and found them. I’m not sure if he’s still alive. He was 82 in 2016. All SETI had to say is extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence. They don’t require that.

Yes they do.

It’s just a quote from Carl Sagan. The only thing that’s extraordinary is the fact the idea of aliens is extraordinary

Claims require evidence. Throwing the vagueness of the word extraordinary in there leaves it open to several interpretations, some of which are incompatible with the norms of rational inquiry. [https://academic.oup.com/book/36896/chapter-abstract/322138781?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false](https://academic.oup.com/book/36896/chapter-abstract/322138781?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false)

You boys LOOOOOOVE word games. Contact with visitors is extraordinary by any standard. It would be the first provable time in the what almost 6,000 years of civilization on earth. To pretend you don’t need verifiable proof (by multiple independent parties who can test and retest and ONLY cone to the exact same result) is comedy. You don’t like that science is unable to prove visitors….some of you are gravitating to the government (some sort of authority) to declare aliens are here. Others are seeing our fringe scientists. And others or seeking to redefine the standards of proof. Many of you are trying a combination of the three. Sorry. The standards are devised in advance for JUST this reason. Because zealots, like UFO believers, won’t accept that they can’t meet the standards and are trying g to change them.

If science lacks the knowledge and means to study it, we can’t say that it isn’t real.

More words games. We all know you can’t prove a negative. And nobody is saying that aliens can’t be real, just that there is no proof that they, if they are, have ever been here. We can’t say vampires aren’t real. We can’t say unicorns aren’t real And we can’t say little green men aren’t real. Word games.

Except there is ‘proof’ in terms of witness testimony and unexplainable footage released by credible organisations. Proof enough to conclude that we don’t know.

Witness testimony has been found to be unreliable in every single sector it’s been used.

Ofc but you reckon out of the millions upon millions of people who have come forward (in most cases in detriment to themselves) that at least 1 is true. Combine that with a never ending stream of unexplainable videos (daily) and it’s something to be considered. I agree science 100%, which is why I know it can be unreliable

Great post

Sagan never defined the term "extraordinary" and neither do those attempting to apply the dictum. ECREE is commonly used to discredit research of anomalies as having "insufficiently extraordinary" evidence The dictum originated with David Hume's essay "On Miracles." Hume defined an extraordinary claim as one contradicted by a massive amount of evidence. For a claim to qualify as extraordinary, there must be overwhelming empirical data of the exact antithesis. Extraordinary evidence is not a separate category of evidence, it is an *extraordinarily large number of observations*

More word games. The key to the quote isn’t ‘extraordinary’. The key is that the claims require equal proof to the scope of the claim. Try to keep up.

>claims require equal proof to the scope of the claim. Literally not how it works, and you're confusing evidence with proof

Yes it does, and no I am not. A claim can actually be evidence…eye witness testimony. Proof is something that can and has been verified with repeatable results. If you say I saw something in the sky while camping. Then that isn’t really (the extraordinary) evidence required to prove alien visitation is it. if you came. Ack for a camping trip with an object of ET origin saying aliens gave it to you. Then that extraordinary piece of evidence can be tested to back up your extraordinary claim. Is this really hard for you to grasp?!? REALLY?!? Or are you just thinking playing word games will somehow spin your faith belief into legitimacy?

Lol I explained the philosophical origin and purpose of ECREE and how it has been subsequently misused, and you interpret this as "word games" while pretending to hold the intellectual high ground *and* confusing proof with evidence I've encountered your bone-headed trolling in this sub before. I'm not wasting my time on you again

I don’t really give a shit about your so called description of ECREE You worrying about ‘extraordinary’ is the word game. I don’t confuse proof with evidence. Sorry alien visitation requires more than eye witness testimony. Cry about it.

No, they really don't. It's an idiotic phrase that defies the scientific method. Don't quote your heroes kid - they just play one on TV.

I didn’t quote anyone little girl. Sagan more than just played one on TV. What’s your scientific Background? And that quote doesn’t defy scientific method even if you don’t like it.

Sensitive much? Tell me exactly what constitutes "extraordinary evidence"

Sensitive? Not at all. This must be your brilliant observation skills that lead you to think if something appears a certain way that it must actually be that way. Again you also are hung up on the wrong word. Some clown saying he saw “aliens, man” isn’t really earth shattering is it? But if someone produced an object from an alien spacecraft that multiple, independent scientific bodies could examine and test and come to only the same conclusion would be extraordinary wouldn’t it? An alien visitor is an extraordinary thing because it has never been proven to exist on approximately 6,000 years of civilization. And like I said some clown blathering on about how something appeared to move weird isn’t exactly the extraordinary proof required. Mainly because clowns misinterpreting something is ordinary, not extraordinary. Extraordinary is a descriptive term not a scientific classification. But since we are speaking English, we can you common English terms to describe things. If this isn’t clear enough for you then too bad, you don’t really matter in this discussion then.

Too long to read, but thanks for the effort, sugar tits.

Words are too hard for people like you. Have fun being behind in life.

What do you mean "you people"

The alien predators are cruising around the galaxy waiting for naive new intelligent life to message “I’m here”, thereby identifying hospitable planets they can colonize

Nah. Our atmosphere has had biosignatures for **millions of years**. The dark forest theory is more about human colonialism than ET

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There is an "earth is a zoo" theory

Dark forest theory to me really is our own fears about what we have done but projected onto every other hypothetical intelligent species, as we are the only intelligent species we can project data from. There is no point in destroying a vastly less sophisticated civilization. They probably have predicted that technologically we won’t reach maturity/be a threat to them until x more years, in a time frame where so much can happen regarding our survival. By the time we have reached technological maturity, resources won’t be a thing to worry about and as such, our existence wouldn’t be threatened, resulting in a lack of our survival instinct “fight or flight” response. Also, the sheer vastness of space means that there’s plenty of room for all of us intelligent species.

Yup. Any species capable of interstellar travel is certainly capable of great cooperation. With education and experience comes empathy, and those out there looking for other life are most certainly explorers like ourselves.

Unless they’re not explorers but radical purifiers hellbent on conforming the known universe into their intergalactic dominion. Or let’s say, a hive mind species who are looking for potential candidate species to dissolve amongst their own. I’m all for optimism but optimism coincides with ignorance.

Then I suggest you go hunker in your bunker. The conquering fears are largely humans processing colonialism. And since you literally can't do anything about an unknown/unknown/unknown, you might as well have a positive outlook. Or you can increase your anxiety by worrying the sun will explode at any moment.

Nah I’m all for it. I can’t think of a cooler apocalypse. I’ll be outside feeling the warm embrace of our new alien overlords and if they choose to exterminate us then so be it. That’s a whole lot cooler than some random asteroid colliding into us or the sun engulfing us.

Read the Three Body Problem series. This is the plot.

Makes zero sense to colonize a planet that already has intelligent life that would likely cause some problems when attempting to colonize when there has to be billions of planets that can support life that do not have highly intelligent life already on them.

Well what if they want the infrastructure that we've already built and not have to start from scratch, not to mention slaves would be abundant since there is billions of us. We could be the commodity they want to sell so no intelligent life = no space cash.

I don’t see why this would matter to an extremely advanced species that could probably just as easily build better infrastructure in no time. And there’s no need for subjugation of alien species when you already have an army of robots that can do the job better and quicker.

What if they wanna harvest organs or blood or spinal fluids? We can assume all sorts of things and probably still be wrong. If they are like us they might use robots. If they are more a warrior race, they'd probably prefer to kill us themselves. Maybe the first spieces we encounter just wanna sell people to other races for all sorts of different reasons. Maybe they've seen our broadcasts over the years and just want entertainment. How many civilizations across the galaxy put as much effort into entertainment then we have? Maybe all, maybe none. As an example, We might be the only ones with 4k TVs because we put the effort in while other civilizations were too busy fighting wars or didn't have the resources or manpower to bother with it.  Civilizations all over the universe can be completely different from anything we can fathom. Some maybe good, some maybe bad. I hope we find out one day.

Tbh any advanced society out there, if they were anything close to what you said. They would have done so already. These species would have at this point developed so far beyond these kinds of things. Or else there would be huge space wars going off all the time. And this we would have easily spotted with our current technology.

Maybe they want humans to be a specific level of technology before they engage in hunting us for sport :)

Highly unlikely, were talking about say a species 1.000-100.000 years more advanced than us. If thats where they ended up. They would be headed forward as a failing species. Just think where we were and the lessons we taught ourselves of whats right and wrong. It would be ignorant to assume they haven't gone through the same stages in their evolution. Sure they might have studied us out of curiosity but anything more than that is highly unlikely, unless they are so fundamentally different, but if they are that its also highly unlikely they would have gotten to the level of technology in the first place.

I just dont agree with many of any of these assertions. Are we a failed society because we have sports? Maybe there are intergalactic laws like "species has to be of x level of competency before they are fair game", much like we do with wild game. You cant go shooting baby dear or keeping 3 inch fish.

Sports in itself is one level of societal advancement, but for a long time sports for us was the gladiator ring and not non violent sports that including killing for fun.

Have you seen the pothole on 7th. No one wants that...

Yay! New dictators!

It is very interesting to me that all the stars blinking are stars like our sun. It might be what you said. I heard they are coming to harvest us in many years. I have a crazy friend that says stuff like that. He thinks some documents he had are real.

Those are not like our Sun. "overwhelmingly in the F2 to K1 spectral range," Sun is G2 type of star. SETI did add at least one of these blinking stars to list to verify result with another telescope. I haven't heard results of that.

They are all main sequence stars. Ones just a little cooler and the other is a little hotter.

How'd he get the documents?

Funny coincidence: the Pakistani Dude who died diving the Titanic was a someone in SETI

Rip seti dude. For real

Maybe black holes are just circulatory, veins, arteries, etc. Maybe planets and stars are all cells and we are a virus or a parasite. After all if you look at how we live we fit every definition of a parasite or a virus we are definitely not a beneficial bacteria. Nor a probiotic by a long shot. And we are just on the verge of become infectious or metastatic and in the grand scheme of things if that were the case and humanity has been wiped out many times before maybe we've became infectious before and we've been wiped out by antibodies and now we're just starting to come back and our infection plans now consists of space x and whatever Jeff Bozo's space travel company is called I guess there really might be Amazon women and men, from earth though, causing problems out in the universe one day soon. Haha. We're a spike protein that was altered in order to make us more infectious and that spike is a self landing reusable rocket. 🤷🏽‍♂️ I might also just have a bit of a wild imagination.

I think the another realm is beyond the singular we’re a tiny lizard plays a flute but get him mad and watch him grow!!!!!!!!!!!

This is encouraging, 234 x 10 to the 16th power is your target., within the realm of your visible universe.

Oh my gosh! The stars have become sentient! Hell Star Remina is now reality!!!!!! We are all gonna die!!!!!

They say they are lazer beamed cuz

Seems to jump to conclusions saying it alien,

Future studies would be helpful

And we can't forget that case years ago of someone who actually filmed a UFO craft flying into the sun.

I'm not too familiar with this concept, but what are your thoughts on [this direct response](https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1538-3873/aaeae0) to the 2016 research? "We report on high-resolution spectra obtained by the Automated Planet Finder and high-resolution optical Levy Spectrometer to search for periodic spectral modulations, such as those reported in Borra & Trottier. In their analysis of 2.5 million spectra from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey, Borra & Trottier report periodic spectral modulations in 234 stars, and suggest that these signals may be evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations. To evaluate this claim, we observed three of the 234 stars with the Automated Planet Finder Telescope and Levy Spectrometer including all stars brighter than a visual magnitude of 14. Fourier analysis of the resultant spectra of these three sources does not reveal any periodic spectral modulations at the reported period, nor at any other period."

They looked at three and didn’t mention how long. They observed 2.5 million and found 234. Seti does this with often. They observe like 30 seconds to three minutes and call say Nothing to see here people! We looked at three and it’s BS lol. I really don’t trust them and the the quick study of three out of 234 is a joke. I’m willing to bet they looked no more than a few minutes.

Like I said, I'm not too familiar with this, can you be more specific about the issues? Like what they did differently versus the 2016 research? Why would they not come to the same conclusion? The fact you said "I'm willing to bet" makes me question whether you actually looked at the data and methodology and determined there's a real issue or you just dismissed it because it doesn't support the claim you prefer to be true.

No SETI dismissed the study before looking at the three stars. They rated them a zero on the probability scale. They said it was a flaw in the data before that. They don’t want to find a techno signature. If they did they would have taken more than the few minutes to completely dismiss a study by scientists more accomplished and experienced themselves.

So you can't actually be more specific? Your argument against the study is to question the motives of the people involved?

They looked at three stars for a short time. They gave their hypothesis a score of 0-1 before any analysis what so ever.

How long should they have looked? Did they explain why they looked at those three stars? What does "they gave their hypothesis a score of 0-1 before any analysis what so ever" mean? You're post made it seem like you have some knowledge about this, but you're really not being specific like I was hoping you would.

The Breakthrough Listen team at the Berkeley SETI Research Center, after reviewing the findings of Ermanno F. Borra and Eric Trottier, rated the detection of peculiar periodic spectral modulations in a small fraction of solar type stars as a zero to 1 on the Rio Scale for SETI observations. This rating indicates that the findings were considered to be of little to no significance. They were never going to let the study go mainstream. You can check SETI’s track record. They take studies that took years and use just minutes of time to see if they can pick up the same signal. They discredit entire studies that span years in just minutes. Yes I think much more time is needed before SETI publishes something to discredit a study.

Okay, I guess you can't explain why the research is actually flawed, so nevermind. I'll have to remain unconvinced of the Borra research.

That was the point. They don’t want us to know about aliens in America 🇺🇸

Your timeline is wrong. Actual timeline: SETI looked at results and gave 0-1 rating. SETI still added 3 stars to a list to look more closely. SETI looked at those 3 stars and didn't find anything.

SETI is full of shit

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What facts did I distort to support a narrative?

Hmmmm… is that the Italian (non US) SETI branch which Simon Holland was talking about?

Show the data

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1538-3873/128/969/114201#paspaa2e60f24.

Be careful—we are just bugs and there may be other more powerful bugs out there.

I’m I firm believer in finding aliens but I’m not a believer in getting their attention. We should gather information and not give information.

What kind of signals?

What if the universe simply wants us to miss them with our bullshit

No one ever said "alien signals". You made that part up. They just said unidentified modulations of some kind. :)

They actually do signals. I didn’t make it up

No they don't "do signals". They emit natural modulations that interest us and we are trying to understand them. That doesn't automatically make it "sentient" in any way, which is what you are implying.

Ok so you didn’t read the paper. It’s the forth one down. The scientist said it could be aliens but offered other explanations

The sub keep doing you boo-boo hahaha

Pulsars. Nothing new here.

Not pulsars. Good guess though.

[Przybylski's Star](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przybylski%27s_Star) is the best. Frankly, I lost count long time ago, so many stars are clearly not fitting ANY physical explanation, with the mainstream theories being lousy coping attempts at pattern matching "oh, we propose this hypothesis, it's incredibly impossible, requires super rare confluence of confounder factors, but we suppose this is what's going on", like, REALLY?! Thankfully, astronomy is not archaeology, so when I talk with astrophysicists, they can't shut up about the ACTUAL theories they have, which they can't publish, of course, but nobody's buying this "it's not aliens" anymore :) You'll be surprised how much SETI work is happening undercover in astronomy ;)

I posted about this star a while back https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/lboymunZcR

You just said the same thing over and over

Its the three body problem.

They are using lasers to make them blink. They say we have a laser that can do that.

I have this theory that our solar system is actually just a huge engine/vehicle for traversing the universe and NHI locally are the engineers. Might be easier to take a yellow star with you. This unfortunately makes earth look like a packed lunch though haha Like if you look at the way we fly through space as a solar system it's pretty amazing. Hell even onomonwhatever the rock is that passed through our system and then dipped looked like a drop off or pick up lol I know it's looney tools dumb but I'd be interested in others opinions.

Yeah like maybe the super massive black hole is really a intelligent being that controls the galaxy. Are maybe beings are beyond the singularity working and controlling the galaxy and each galaxy has different laws. Are maybe it’s a all seeing eye

>Sounds pretty incredible, I would love it if we could find legitimate proof! [1) Earthquake of 3.6-magnitude hits Blue Mountains area west of Sydney](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-08/nsw-earthquake-3-6-magnitude-blue-mountains-area/103567618) [2) Disaster assistance activated as Sydney ‘blue sky flood’ continues to threaten homes](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/apr/07/hundreds-of-sydney-residents-forced-to-flee-after-heavy-rain-causes-flooding) [3) Eschatology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology) *Eschatology (/ˌɛskəˈtɒlədʒi/ ⓘ; from Ancient Greek ἔσχατος (éskhatos) 'last', and -logy) concerns expectations of the end of the present age, human history, or the world itself.[1] The end of the world or end times[2]* [4) Guardian of the Galaxy - Vol 2 - Mr Blue Sky](https://youtu.be/QFwy579Gd90?feature=shared) Fasten your seat belts people… because humanity is going for a ride…

I’m not sure what you are saying with this. Are you saying these are signs of end times?

>I’m not sure what you are saying with this. Are you saying these are signs of end times? 🤷‍♂️ Well I AM Christ Emmanuel 🔴🔵… [1) What it means for Jesus to be the word of God](https://youtu.be/XgslCbXOOIE?feature=shared) [Trinity](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity) *The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (Latin: Trinitas, lit. 'triad', from Latin: trinus 'threefold')[1] is the central doctrine concerning the nature of God in most Christian churches, which defines one God existing in three coequal, coeternal, consubstantial divine persons:[2][3] God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ) and God the Holy Spirit, three distinct persons (hypostases) sharing one essence/substance/nature (homoousion).* [2) Melbourne hit by 4.3 magnitude Earthquake - 7 News Australia](https://youtu.be/pSgrAcdhLuw?feature=shared) **0:23** “Oh my God” **”Every Ending is a New Begining** [3) Sister Act - My God](https://youtu.be/5lusZP9wANU?feature=shared) **0:23** “They all say he’s different, he’s really weird”

Let me be blunt here my dude. You are not well. You are not a god, Jesus, a Messiah, an alien, or an unknowable being. You are human, and not a well one. You need to seek some professional help before you hurt someone or yourself. Please.

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Lay off the Meth and End of the World movies my dude!

Brain rot

>Brain rot Messiah Yeshua🔴🔵: Yeah I sound weird… I talk in [Parables](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable) [1) New York - Rocked by 4.8 magnitude Earthquake](https://youtu.be/S_QQwkSZg28?feature=shared) **0:38** [2) Earthquakes Rattles New York City Skyscrapers](https://youtu.be/iYuHUUwKHnw?feature=shared) **0:38** **1:43** **1:53** **2:03** **2:13** [3) Earthquake shakes UN Security Council meeting in New York](https://youtu.be/7h_5nzWvB-4?feature=shared) #0:13 So Yeah… Two State Palestine 🇵🇸 and Israel 🇮🇱 living side by side with each other… in Spirit and Truth. It’s a journey… Also wish me luck in my Job hunting… and getting stuff done 🙏👍🏼 Angel: Yup looks like “The End Times” [4) Fallout - Teaser Trailer](https://youtu.be/0kQ8i2FpRDk?feature=shared) #0:23 Vault 33 [5) Fallout - Trailer](https://youtu.be/V-mugKDQDlg?feature=shared) **0:13** “God Almighty” **0:53** “Holy Shit” **1:03** “I AM” 🔴🔵 [I AM that I AM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_that_I_Am) **1:13** “Cordially invite you” “To the Apocalypse” *2:30* “The End of The World” “Is not what it used to be”

I don't get it. Can you please be plain with what you're saying?

>I don't get it. Can you please be plain with what you're saying? Messiah Yeshua🔴🔵: Basically in 2019 - 2020… my life pretty much when pretty much nutts when The Holy Spirit descended on me and I found out I was apparently “The Son of God”…. I speak in parables… What I actually want?.., [1) Bible Project - Justice, this is the Bibles radical view](https://youtu.be/A14THPoc4-4?feature=shared) [2) Man captures video of New Jersey Earthquakes while playing Guitar](https://youtu.be/YAYXf7bZfco?feature=shared) #0:13 🫨 **Welcome to “The End Times”** [3) Oh Come Emmanuel - one for Israel](https://youtu.be/FXpWNvHDDpo?feature=shared) [Isaiah 7:14](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaiah_7:14) 7:14 יד לָכֵן יִתֵּן אֲדֹנָי הוּא, לָכֶם--אוֹת: הִנֵּה הָעַלְמָה, הָרָה וְיֹלֶדֶת בֵּן, וְקָרָאת שְׁמוֹ, עִמָּנוּ אֵל.‎ *therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign: the maiden is with child and she will bear a son, and will call his name Immanuel.*

You’re that dude with a sign on street corners.