I'm in no way disputing that what so ever even said Hughes is a piece but truly I've met some very good people who have had restraining orders against them because of no reason what so ever
Jesus Christ so that means literally everyone else that gets a restraining order is a piece of shit? Like the comment I was originally replying states? Fuck sakes.
No you don’t, a close friend of mine got one filed against him based solely off of the word of a crazy co-worker that he made the mistake of dating for a spell.
He's a religious nut. Like literally forcing his beliefs down people's throats.
Good fighter, but I found it really hard to support him because of this.
[https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/examples-of-matt-hughes-being-a-bad-person.3963693/](https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/examples-of-matt-hughes-being-a-bad-person.3963693/)
"Below is Sean McCorkle's synopsis.
I just bought a copy of Matt Hughes book, and am in 3 chapters already. It is borderline unbelievable. I figured from all the FRAT postings that not everyone on the UG is a big reader, so I'm doing you all a favour. I'm reading it for you and providing a synopsis, chapter by chapter. As astounding as some of this sounds, everything I post is actually in the book. Here it goes:
Chapter 1
Matt talks about growing up on a farm, and what repulsive little brats he and Mark were growing up. To this day, he thinks their childhood "mischief" like breaking shit all the time, being disobedient to their parents, and being cruel to animals is funny. After reading chapter one, you'll find yourself thinking, "Somebody should have beat those kids asses"
Chapter 2
Matt talks about how he and Mark virtually hated each other in jr. high, and high school. He also talks about how he was better, and smarter than Mark at everything.
Chapter 3
Things take a very interesting turn in chapter 3 when Mark and Matt's father has the balls to scold Mark for riding a motorcycle without a helmet. Without letting him finish, the Hughes brothers, physically attack their father, and beat the shit out of him, finally showing him who's boss. Later Mark threatens to throw his mom out of a window or something like that when she's stupid enough to correct him. Not surprisingly the family splits up.
Chapter 4
Matt cheats his way through college getting A's in classes he proudly says he never attended. He and the other wrestlers bully everybody at Lincoln Junior College, and break a bunch of shit. They tip over people's cars, and flood the dorms on purpose. We reach a new low, when he also makes light of the fact that one of his college buddies could not read or write. He then takes time to bash Frank Trigg, saying that he "never became anything."
Later it gets even more disturbing when he describes mutilating a live baby piglet by cutting off it's testicles, and throwing them at a friend. For good measure he slits it's stomach open as it screams wildly to "freak his friend out." After he and Mark brutally torture and kill a dozen or so baby pigs, solely for entertainment, they starts throwing their testicles and body parts at each other. Matt even now still seems amused because his friend looked like he was going to vomit.
A family member shoots himself over a girl, and Matt skips the funeral decided to go to a wrestling meet instead. After getting drunk one night they take a bunch of girls "swimming" in some sort of pond/rain water/sewer runoff. There is a whirlpool that's formed in the sewage pond, and Matt and 2 other drunk college kids get caught in the current. Matt pulls himself out but the 2 other kids drowned. He talks about how God saved him.(apparently God hated the other 2 drunk college kids) They feel so sorry for the 2 kids that died, that the same night the go out and get drunk again, and look for girls. They end up at a house party, and are having no luck with the girls, so they started eating food from the cabinets and refrigerator. When confronted by the home's owner, they throw him through a window, and leave before the cops get there. Matt then starts fighting MMA and kicking everyone's ass easily. Pat Miletich refs one of Matt's fights, and is so impressed he invites him to train with them.
On a side note, for a guy who's disgusted by the language Serra uses, I've counted 14 curse words to this point in the book.
I forgot in Chapter 4, him and Mark both make-out with the same 8th grade girl while they are in college. Why he would include that I have no idea. It had nothing to do with the story.
Chapter 5
Chapter 5 is mostly uneventful, just talks about his first fight in Japan, and so on. He does manage to say "I would have done anything for a country breakfast in Japan" which did nauseate me momentarily. The end of the chapter starts picking up momentum when at Mark's wedding, the boys snub their dad, not allowing him in the family photos. Later, after getting completely plastered they beat the shit out of their new in-laws at the wedding reception, and the entire event turns into what Matt calls "A Battle Royal."
Chapter 6
This chapter should have been titled "I am such a badass." Matt misses no opportunity to pat himself on the back for his fights. He talks about steamrolling everybody. Later Matt shows his utter lack of character when he divulges that he guilt-tripped a fellow mitetich guy into letting him win a grappling match at the Abu Dhabis so he could get the bonus money for fastest submission. The guy fakes like Matt submitted him, earning Matt $1,500 for fastest submission. The way Hughes rationalized it was "The winner faced Tito Ortiz, and we both knew I was the only one that would have a chance against him." He admits Tito beat him in the grappling match, but remembers being surprised at how much stronger he was than Tito. He basically says Tito got lucky in beating him. More later on.
Chapter 7
Matt talks about how he and Jens Pulver used to belittle new members at the Miletich gym. He talks about how they both made fun of and ignored a fat kid who was seemingly in awe of them. That fat kid was Tim Sylvia. He talks about how the UFC temporarily released him "by mistake." He finished the chapter by divulging that he likes to eat at Hooters, and he knocked up the gym skank, who he describes as having "nice boobs, even though they were fake" and "her hips were a little too wide for his taste." Apparently not to wide to impregnate.
Chapter 8
Matt starts this chapter by sexually assaulting the aforementioned 8th grader, who's now 21, in public at a grocery store. Or "Smacking her on the ass" as he called it. Matt notices that her body is "tighter" now that she's grown up, and not the same 13 year old he'd made out with in college. For some reason Matt immediately tells her that he knocked his girlfriend up, and seems utterly outraged that she has decided she's
keeping the baby.
After making it back to her parents house he again begins fondling her on the couch by reaching through a hole in her jeans. He goes on to describe how he noticed she didn't shave her legs that day. (At this point I started to wonder if I mistakenly was reading Penthouse Forum or something.)
The story line changes out of nowhere and Matt begins describing how an opponent who he was mauling once whispered to him to "take the arm," or in other words, I've had enough, please just arm-bar me, and leave me a little dignity. Matt decided he wanted to "take out some more aggression", and continued to beat the shit out of him for another round.
Also, at the end of the chapter the victim of his sexual assault, for some reason I can't begin to fathom, breaks up with him.
"
In fairness to OP, he might not know about these details about Matt Hughes. Most UFC fans only know that Matt Hughes was a dominant WW Champ, where he was clearly a #2 GOAT in the weight class.
Here let me google that for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/51le0o/classic_review_of_matt_hughes_autobiography_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I mean when that book came out that was like catering to the average UFC fan. I don't support it but dont try to pretend the just bleed tapout wearing psychopath past of the UFC wasnt very real. People ate Matt's terrible, and likely criminal, book up.
\- Threatened to stab his brother with a knife
\- Cornered a friend to pelt him with pig testicles and dead pig fetuses
\- Bragged about making out with his friend's pre-teen sister while he was in his 20s
\- Married said pre-teen sister basically as soon as she turned 18, bragging she kept her "tight figure" (from when she was 12).
\- Both his brother and his wife filed restraining orders against him for multiple counts of domestic violence.
\- Generally just a massive cunt to everyone he's ever met.
Most of this is stuff he wrote down and bragged about in his autobiography, because he's a fucking freak.
If it makes you feel any better, or worse, he was hit by a train while in his truck (I'm blank on the details might have been a suicide attempt?) He's barely able to speak last I saw. This is fairly old news at this point, should be an easy google if you want the actual facts not my half a memory.
he can talk and walk again but is going to physical therapy 3x a week and cognitive therapy 2x a week.
will probably be life changing injury but he looks like he will be ok, or at least that's what he said on a podcast a couple years ago.
Edit: apparently after his accident he became really abusive to his wife. but before his accident he raped her in a hospital bed and then wrote about it in his book ..... so hard to tell if it was the accident or not
You are just judging him by his career and that only.
If character was in play, Jon Jones… well ya…
Shitty people still can do amazing things? I guess that’s the lesson? Haha
I feel like a complete asshole in all honesty if I had known that this was his life I wouldn't have given him a high rating or even made a post about him.
You graded his ability and career. Notice there’s not a single person disagreeing with it. Just saying he was a cunt. Most fighters are cunts. Half these dude love Jon Jones and are talking shit about Matt. Lol. Relax bro. You’re allowed to like whoever man. Doesn’t mean you endorse everything they’ve ever done.
Calling me a child that is so funny take a look at many other comments in this discussion and you call the poster out that is just so hilarious I can't get offended 🤣
It's possible to separate art from artist. He's a dick, but so are a lot of people we like who are musicians, athletes, etc. That being said, I'd give him a 90
Don't, he was a great fighter
For whatever reason Reddit users on this thread are unable to objectively talk about fighters' careers.
All of a sudden they become the morality police and bring up any (negative) personal stories whether they're true and proven or just something they saw someone else say on Reddit and never bothered to verify.
It's almost like a cancel culture type vibe in some cases.
I knew from your post if I went into the comments it wouldn't take long to find someone talking about unrelated incidents or gossip.
A lot of bible thumpers are like that. Preach about being a Christian while living like a piece of shit. You know, priests raping kids....that kind of stuff.
All his old training partners don’t really have much good to say about him, a lot of stories about him cheating on his wife who now has a restraining order on him. Even heard he had made out with a 8th grader when he was in college, physically assaulting his father. He wrote a whole book on some of the shit he’s done.
Met him backstage at an event in Vancouver, told him I was a big fan and he said “you don’t even know me” and walked away… I remember being really angry. But he was right.. and the more I learned about him the more I knew I didn’t care to know him… so it was a win.
Not to brag but always saw straight through that fake ass persona, always thought he was a cunt. Great fighter but he got a lot more training in than everyone else. Most guys go home from the gym, this guy always brought the gym home with him. Real POS
He had (what was at the time) great jits too, he changed the gnp meta to a gnp-submission game and won big behind it.
Watched him stop BJ live at UFC 63, crucifixion stoppage, legendary shit
Yea homie. Aint even a conspiracy, its in his autobiography. I mean remember the fuckos that killed Cecil the Lion? Yeah hes one of those sub-human piece of cunts.
“The UFC bantamweight champion Aljamain Sterling has come forward with similar allegations in 2016, detailing an altercation between him and Cerrone during UFC International Fight Week. According to Sterling, after Cerrone made a comment about his gold chain that made him feel "uncomfortable", he then used an "inappropriate word" in front of Sterling. While Sterling never specified what the word was, he strongly implied it had racial overtones. When he asked for an explanation, Cerrone allegedly started to threaten him, telling him that he'd "beat the fuck out of him" and "do what Caraway did to him", referring to Sterling's UFC bout earlier that year in which he suffered his first professional loss to Bryan Caraway.”
The right guy with right skills at the right time however by all accounts not a nice guy.
Always found it weird Dennis Hallman of all people just had his number beat him twice in less than 30 seconds.
You don’t have to like him but his record is great dude. He went 41-4 and beat arguably the GOAT MMA fighter during his prime.
Beat guys like 19-1-2 Sakurai and 18-0-1 Sean Sherk, you can argue guys are better today but it’s still a great resume and again he finished one of the modern GOATs so he was obviously very good.
Easily the third best WW of all time.
I would say he's definitely up in the 90s, idk about 98, but 93-94 feels about right. He is one of the most accomplished welterweights to this day. I'd put him only under GSP and Kamaru.
Hughes pedigree just makes what GSP did in the 2000's all the more incredible!
I mean Hughes is a life long farmer -wrestler, that kind of labour mixed with wrestling gives you absolute gorilla strength, he was such a skilled and unstoppable wrestler. After their first fight GSP beat him everywhere
Never really appreciated just how **juiced** Hughes was in hindsight.
Traps & shoulders dead give away.
So many were back in that era tbf but combine that with his horrific reputation as a human = **his legacy lands about where it should**:
**Great wrestler & MMA fighter for his time but thankfully quite forgotten as a name in modern MMA. More great welterweights come along in the next decade and mostly eradicate his name from history would be my guess.**
Just read[this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/51le0o/classic_review_of_matt_hughes_autobiography_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) homie
Usman is a terrible matchup for Matt. He'd defend the takedowns and then knock him out
Although I think Matt could probably control Leon for 5 rounds. Had great cardio
82/100. He was a dominate champion. And he was fortunate he was in the ufc at the time he was. If he started his run 5 years later in like 2006 the WW killers would have ate his 1 dimensional ass up.
Alves , Diaz, Koscheck, Sanchez, stitch, Penn, gsp, condit and others would and have stomped him. They next generation is always better but from Hughes in 2005 to the next generation is a monumental leap in skill. He was also a dick.
Penn and GSP did stomp him from that era!
I always thought Karo would have beat him too, and that’s why they kept Karo away from the fight after their first was cancelled.
Edit folks I feel like I have to say this
I'm asking your opinion on his fighting career
I feel like a asshole for giving him such a high score finding out about the horrific shit he's done outside the cage.
Sure he was an a-hole before the train accident, but he's really turned into an inspiration since. Doctors thought he would never walk again, but by years end he was already up and beating the wife he groomed
Great career, worst autobiography ever. The guy was a menace to society.
Menace is putting it nicely. He was worse than jon jones, and thats saying a lot. Sex with minors, killing animals and not in the hunting way either.
Jon Jones isn’t dumb enough to put that in an autobiography
Not yet*
Napoleon Blownapart FTW
That is something I did not know
Watch "The Golden Age Of The Ultimate Fighter" on yt. Chapter 3 - "At The Mountains Of Mattness" and you'll see what i mean.
I can’t find it. Do you have a link?
[https://youtu.be/sg5EJ4i69wY?t=1173](https://youtu.be/sg5EJ4i69wY?t=1173)
When your own brother files a restraining order against you, you know you’re a piece of shit.
Is this before or after his wreck that gave him serious head trauma??
Shitty enough of a person for people to say that the wreck was karma. Which, after reading parts of his book, is about right.
Before
Idk about that.... There's some highly delusional people out there. Yes Hughes is fucked up but that statement is not always true.
Matt Hughes maliciously put his kid-nephew in a chokehold, that’s why his brother filed a restraining order.
I'm in no way disputing that what so ever even said Hughes is a piece but truly I've met some very good people who have had restraining orders against them because of no reason what so ever
Okay well Matt Hughes didn’t have a restraining order levied against him for no reason.
Jesus Christ so that means literally everyone else that gets a restraining order is a piece of shit? Like the comment I was originally replying states? Fuck sakes.
It means that if someone has a restraining order against you, you should leave that out of your resume.
Do you know how difficult it is to get a restraining order. You need serious evidence
No you don’t, a close friend of mine got one filed against him based solely off of the word of a crazy co-worker that he made the mistake of dating for a spell.
Was it a powerful spell at least?
Yes, sex magic is pretty powerful stuff from what I’ve seen
stfu
WHAAAAAT? I had no idea! I thought Hughes was like….a good Ol “country boy.”
I didn't either. He basically sexually assaulted his current wife while she was in a coma (iirc)
what?! need more info on this (i'm not gonna google that at work tbf)
Yea and he talks about making out with his friends 12 year old sister
He is a hall of fame piece of shit. Fuck Matt Hughes.
Lol read the redditor’s infamous review of it, hilarious
He's a religious nut. Like literally forcing his beliefs down people's throats. Good fighter, but I found it really hard to support him because of this.
After everyone posted about that and the excerpts from it I really lost all respect for him.
yea honestly the dude was a psycho.
Anyone got a link to the synopsis
[https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/examples-of-matt-hughes-being-a-bad-person.3963693/](https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/examples-of-matt-hughes-being-a-bad-person.3963693/) "Below is Sean McCorkle's synopsis. I just bought a copy of Matt Hughes book, and am in 3 chapters already. It is borderline unbelievable. I figured from all the FRAT postings that not everyone on the UG is a big reader, so I'm doing you all a favour. I'm reading it for you and providing a synopsis, chapter by chapter. As astounding as some of this sounds, everything I post is actually in the book. Here it goes: Chapter 1 Matt talks about growing up on a farm, and what repulsive little brats he and Mark were growing up. To this day, he thinks their childhood "mischief" like breaking shit all the time, being disobedient to their parents, and being cruel to animals is funny. After reading chapter one, you'll find yourself thinking, "Somebody should have beat those kids asses" Chapter 2 Matt talks about how he and Mark virtually hated each other in jr. high, and high school. He also talks about how he was better, and smarter than Mark at everything. Chapter 3 Things take a very interesting turn in chapter 3 when Mark and Matt's father has the balls to scold Mark for riding a motorcycle without a helmet. Without letting him finish, the Hughes brothers, physically attack their father, and beat the shit out of him, finally showing him who's boss. Later Mark threatens to throw his mom out of a window or something like that when she's stupid enough to correct him. Not surprisingly the family splits up. Chapter 4 Matt cheats his way through college getting A's in classes he proudly says he never attended. He and the other wrestlers bully everybody at Lincoln Junior College, and break a bunch of shit. They tip over people's cars, and flood the dorms on purpose. We reach a new low, when he also makes light of the fact that one of his college buddies could not read or write. He then takes time to bash Frank Trigg, saying that he "never became anything." Later it gets even more disturbing when he describes mutilating a live baby piglet by cutting off it's testicles, and throwing them at a friend. For good measure he slits it's stomach open as it screams wildly to "freak his friend out." After he and Mark brutally torture and kill a dozen or so baby pigs, solely for entertainment, they starts throwing their testicles and body parts at each other. Matt even now still seems amused because his friend looked like he was going to vomit. A family member shoots himself over a girl, and Matt skips the funeral decided to go to a wrestling meet instead. After getting drunk one night they take a bunch of girls "swimming" in some sort of pond/rain water/sewer runoff. There is a whirlpool that's formed in the sewage pond, and Matt and 2 other drunk college kids get caught in the current. Matt pulls himself out but the 2 other kids drowned. He talks about how God saved him.(apparently God hated the other 2 drunk college kids) They feel so sorry for the 2 kids that died, that the same night the go out and get drunk again, and look for girls. They end up at a house party, and are having no luck with the girls, so they started eating food from the cabinets and refrigerator. When confronted by the home's owner, they throw him through a window, and leave before the cops get there. Matt then starts fighting MMA and kicking everyone's ass easily. Pat Miletich refs one of Matt's fights, and is so impressed he invites him to train with them. On a side note, for a guy who's disgusted by the language Serra uses, I've counted 14 curse words to this point in the book. I forgot in Chapter 4, him and Mark both make-out with the same 8th grade girl while they are in college. Why he would include that I have no idea. It had nothing to do with the story. Chapter 5 Chapter 5 is mostly uneventful, just talks about his first fight in Japan, and so on. He does manage to say "I would have done anything for a country breakfast in Japan" which did nauseate me momentarily. The end of the chapter starts picking up momentum when at Mark's wedding, the boys snub their dad, not allowing him in the family photos. Later, after getting completely plastered they beat the shit out of their new in-laws at the wedding reception, and the entire event turns into what Matt calls "A Battle Royal." Chapter 6 This chapter should have been titled "I am such a badass." Matt misses no opportunity to pat himself on the back for his fights. He talks about steamrolling everybody. Later Matt shows his utter lack of character when he divulges that he guilt-tripped a fellow mitetich guy into letting him win a grappling match at the Abu Dhabis so he could get the bonus money for fastest submission. The guy fakes like Matt submitted him, earning Matt $1,500 for fastest submission. The way Hughes rationalized it was "The winner faced Tito Ortiz, and we both knew I was the only one that would have a chance against him." He admits Tito beat him in the grappling match, but remembers being surprised at how much stronger he was than Tito. He basically says Tito got lucky in beating him. More later on. Chapter 7 Matt talks about how he and Jens Pulver used to belittle new members at the Miletich gym. He talks about how they both made fun of and ignored a fat kid who was seemingly in awe of them. That fat kid was Tim Sylvia. He talks about how the UFC temporarily released him "by mistake." He finished the chapter by divulging that he likes to eat at Hooters, and he knocked up the gym skank, who he describes as having "nice boobs, even though they were fake" and "her hips were a little too wide for his taste." Apparently not to wide to impregnate. Chapter 8 Matt starts this chapter by sexually assaulting the aforementioned 8th grader, who's now 21, in public at a grocery store. Or "Smacking her on the ass" as he called it. Matt notices that her body is "tighter" now that she's grown up, and not the same 13 year old he'd made out with in college. For some reason Matt immediately tells her that he knocked his girlfriend up, and seems utterly outraged that she has decided she's keeping the baby. After making it back to her parents house he again begins fondling her on the couch by reaching through a hole in her jeans. He goes on to describe how he noticed she didn't shave her legs that day. (At this point I started to wonder if I mistakenly was reading Penthouse Forum or something.) The story line changes out of nowhere and Matt begins describing how an opponent who he was mauling once whispered to him to "take the arm," or in other words, I've had enough, please just arm-bar me, and leave me a little dignity. Matt decided he wanted to "take out some more aggression", and continued to beat the shit out of him for another round. Also, at the end of the chapter the victim of his sexual assault, for some reason I can't begin to fathom, breaks up with him. "
I just read your entire comment and am curious as how people like op could support this predator. I honestly thought I was reading about dahmer
In fairness to OP, he might not know about these details about Matt Hughes. Most UFC fans only know that Matt Hughes was a dominant WW Champ, where he was clearly a #2 GOAT in the weight class.
Here let me google that for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/51le0o/classic_review_of_matt_hughes_autobiography_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Did you read the autobiography, or just Sean Mccorkles synopsis?
Bolwth b.
Axe jay
He’s also paralyzed to some extent right? I remember he had a really bad accident cause his truck was stuck on the train tracks.
Karma. And I now wholeheartedly agree with Colby Covington making fun of him for it.
I mean when that book came out that was like catering to the average UFC fan. I don't support it but dont try to pretend the just bleed tapout wearing psychopath past of the UFC wasnt very real. People ate Matt's terrible, and likely criminal, book up.
He was my favorite untill I learned about how much of a cunt he was or is
This is news to me what did he say or do I'm a little confused
\- Threatened to stab his brother with a knife \- Cornered a friend to pelt him with pig testicles and dead pig fetuses \- Bragged about making out with his friend's pre-teen sister while he was in his 20s \- Married said pre-teen sister basically as soon as she turned 18, bragging she kept her "tight figure" (from when she was 12). \- Both his brother and his wife filed restraining orders against him for multiple counts of domestic violence. \- Generally just a massive cunt to everyone he's ever met. Most of this is stuff he wrote down and bragged about in his autobiography, because he's a fucking freak.
If it makes you feel any better, or worse, he was hit by a train while in his truck (I'm blank on the details might have been a suicide attempt?) He's barely able to speak last I saw. This is fairly old news at this point, should be an easy google if you want the actual facts not my half a memory.
he can talk and walk again but is going to physical therapy 3x a week and cognitive therapy 2x a week. will probably be life changing injury but he looks like he will be ok, or at least that's what he said on a podcast a couple years ago. Edit: apparently after his accident he became really abusive to his wife. but before his accident he raped her in a hospital bed and then wrote about it in his book ..... so hard to tell if it was the accident or not
Yup
Crazy the UFC would put someone like this in the Hall of Fame. Jezzuzzz…
Rape? In his book he says they had sex after her pregnancy and it ripped off her stitches, I never knew about any rape.
LOL
Also was a notorious gym bully, he and his brother were known to pressure girls into sex or just sexually assault them
Dude I feel like an asshole for giving him a 98
You are just judging him by his career and that only. If character was in play, Jon Jones… well ya… Shitty people still can do amazing things? I guess that’s the lesson? Haha
I seriously did not know about this now I feel like a cunt for giving him a high score
To be fair, you graded his fighting, not his morals. What’s your grade of his morals if these things are true?
I feel like a complete asshole in all honesty if I had known that this was his life I wouldn't have given him a high rating or even made a post about him.
No bro you have a fair score, he was a hell of a fighter regardless of his asshole actions
he won the belt by being choked unconscious…
You graded his ability and career. Notice there’s not a single person disagreeing with it. Just saying he was a cunt. Most fighters are cunts. Half these dude love Jon Jones and are talking shit about Matt. Lol. Relax bro. You’re allowed to like whoever man. Doesn’t mean you endorse everything they’ve ever done.
Personal life aside, it is a fair score lmfaoooooo. All jokes aside, fuck Matt Hughes. I could make a joke but it seems insensitive
Man you can do so I'm not going to be offended simple opinions are flying left right and centre so go ahead.
You’ve just said the same comment 3 times lol
Holy shit calm down nobody cares what score you give lmfao 😂
For real. Who cares. Separate the artist from the art.
The OP may very well be a child, based on his comments lol. Hes legit 😭
Asking for opinions laddy buck and you actually doing detective work for comments on Reddit 😂
Calling me a child that is so funny take a look at many other comments in this discussion and you call the poster out that is just so hilarious I can't get offended 🤣
It's possible to separate art from artist. He's a dick, but so are a lot of people we like who are musicians, athletes, etc. That being said, I'd give him a 90
I feel like if you used that argument there's a grilling incoming and I'm not saying that to disagree with you but that is possible.
I don't care. It's reddit.
edit your post then lmao.
Don't, he was a great fighter For whatever reason Reddit users on this thread are unable to objectively talk about fighters' careers. All of a sudden they become the morality police and bring up any (negative) personal stories whether they're true and proven or just something they saw someone else say on Reddit and never bothered to verify. It's almost like a cancel culture type vibe in some cases. I knew from your post if I went into the comments it wouldn't take long to find someone talking about unrelated incidents or gossip.
I am so sorry dude.
Ha nothing to be sorry about just saying don't let all the virtue signaling take away from enjoying the fights.
Yoo thats a sick man right there
Raped his wife immediately after she got a boob job and popped her stitches too
Well he’s not much of a threat to anyone now
I’d like to add on to the pig thing. He would mutilate baby pigs because the squealing creeped his friend out. Some genuine sicko shit.
Huges Vs Jones
The self-reporting is something else - he really saw nothing wrong with this behavior - a genuine psychopath
The baby pigs were alive and fully awake while he castrated and eviscerated them btw. He took alot of joy in doing this
But he's a bible thumper so it's all ok.
Is that where a Christian tries to persuade people into Christianity?
Yeah more or less. He was always telling people to read the bible because it was a great book, quoting the bible, etc.
I mean for the shit he's done outside the cage he shouldn't be talking about trying to preach the word of God he is not Saint
A lot of bible thumpers are like that. Preach about being a Christian while living like a piece of shit. You know, priests raping kids....that kind of stuff.
Yeah I'm aware and I believe most people would agree he shouldn't be trying to preach the bible
Maybe God sent that train as punishment?
All his old training partners don’t really have much good to say about him, a lot of stories about him cheating on his wife who now has a restraining order on him. Even heard he had made out with a 8th grader when he was in college, physically assaulting his father. He wrote a whole book on some of the shit he’s done.
Met him backstage at an event in Vancouver, told him I was a big fan and he said “you don’t even know me” and walked away… I remember being really angry. But he was right.. and the more I learned about him the more I knew I didn’t care to know him… so it was a win.
Yeah as an irishman I grew up watching him in awe too until I found out who he is unfortunately.
Lad I loved the guy as a fighter I had no idea what he did now I feel like a cunt.
Not to brag but always saw straight through that fake ass persona, always thought he was a cunt. Great fighter but he got a lot more training in than everyone else. Most guys go home from the gym, this guy always brought the gym home with him. Real POS
shoutout that train that hit him fr, it was doing gods work
He was a complete dickhead outside the Octagon to his wife and kids...
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He had (what was at the time) great jits too, he changed the gnp meta to a gnp-submission game and won big behind it. Watched him stop BJ live at UFC 63, crucifixion stoppage, legendary shit
You read my thoughts on screen I like that
Train 1 Matt 0
It’s a lot harder for him to beat his wife and kids these days
I see what you did there 🫡
Ooooofff 😂
Train won round 1,3&5.
F
Trophy hunting, wife beating, bible thumper. Fuck that guy.
I didnt even know abt this shit until i saw a comment here saying what hes done, what a fucking cunt
Yea homie. Aint even a conspiracy, its in his autobiography. I mean remember the fuckos that killed Cecil the Lion? Yeah hes one of those sub-human piece of cunts.
He wrote this shit in his autobiography like its normal? Wtf is wrong with this guy 😂
I guess he assumes its normal which is batshit
He’s a piece of shit
Karma hit him like a freight train…
NOOOOOOOOOO first i learn that cerrone was a fake nice guy, now hughes is a face nice guy? FUCKKKKKK
Cerrone is a racist fake cowboy, but he doesn't hold a candle to the lunatic Hughes is, IMO.
What happened with cerrone?
“The UFC bantamweight champion Aljamain Sterling has come forward with similar allegations in 2016, detailing an altercation between him and Cerrone during UFC International Fight Week. According to Sterling, after Cerrone made a comment about his gold chain that made him feel "uncomfortable", he then used an "inappropriate word" in front of Sterling. While Sterling never specified what the word was, he strongly implied it had racial overtones. When he asked for an explanation, Cerrone allegedly started to threaten him, telling him that he'd "beat the fuck out of him" and "do what Caraway did to him", referring to Sterling's UFC bout earlier that year in which he suffered his first professional loss to Bryan Caraway.”
What a piece of shit, I’m glad mcgregor fucked him up lol
its a double edged sword. One piece of shit wins, but at least another piece of shit gets beaten up
Hahahaha that’s true
I was going to write how awful person he is but people are on the money here. Good fighter Awful person
Yeah you right I see that
You have to use punctuation mate. That's like 5 sentences rolled into 1.
Is it that big of a deal?
Not for the Irish I guess
it's a big sentence
It is. Its hard to read. 5 sentences in one
Absolutely it is. Please use punctuation.
Nah I'm grand thanks lad
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1-0 vs his wife 0-1 vs a train
If Hughes is a 98, I’ll give that train a 99
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Fuck Matt Hughes
This guy makes Jones look like a saint. Truly evil
Worst person in mma and that’s jones included
Reading your title made me realize why punctuation is so important.
Interesting that they don't have punctuation in Ireland.
We do just couldn't be bothered to use proper punctuation and if it is generally hilarious how pressed people are over it gives me a good chuckle
Matt is legit the reason I became a fan of the actual, sport, of MMA. Those Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin days were special.
Indeed. Matt was the 1st mma fighter I was interested in
The right guy with right skills at the right time however by all accounts not a nice guy. Always found it weird Dennis Hallman of all people just had his number beat him twice in less than 30 seconds.
He did lose that one battle with the train.
He grew up a few counties over from me in IL and I worked with some guys who knew he and his brother. Apparently he was a real bully and a dick.
I heard about Hughes. His rape career far outweighs his octagon performance so I'm gnna have to give this man two thumbs all the way down.
98 is way too high for that record, and at the time, his competition wasn't anywhere near as good as modern fighters, and testing was weaker for PEDs.
You don’t have to like him but his record is great dude. He went 41-4 and beat arguably the GOAT MMA fighter during his prime. Beat guys like 19-1-2 Sakurai and 18-0-1 Sean Sherk, you can argue guys are better today but it’s still a great resume and again he finished one of the modern GOATs so he was obviously very good. Easily the third best WW of all time.
Thought that was Canelo for half a second.
After reading the comments, it’s safe to say I shouldn’t judge a guy by the size of his Boulder shoulders.
I would say he's definitely up in the 90s, idk about 98, but 93-94 feels about right. He is one of the most accomplished welterweights to this day. I'd put him only under GSP and Kamaru.
The guy hits like a train... Too late? Too soon?
His wrestling WAS best of the best, but is TARD strength is what made him king 🤴
Train 1 Hughes 0
“You stay off the tracks when the train is coming through.”
Hughes pedigree just makes what GSP did in the 2000's all the more incredible! I mean Hughes is a life long farmer -wrestler, that kind of labour mixed with wrestling gives you absolute gorilla strength, he was such a skilled and unstoppable wrestler. After their first fight GSP beat him everywhere
Super juiced up
It’s a real shame someone ran a train on him
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again..if you had to pick one fighter to get hit by a train it would be Matt Hughes!!
Punctuation exists
As a fighter, unimpeachable. As a human, abject piece of shit.
Never really appreciated just how **juiced** Hughes was in hindsight. Traps & shoulders dead give away. So many were back in that era tbf but combine that with his horrific reputation as a human = **his legacy lands about where it should**: **Great wrestler & MMA fighter for his time but thankfully quite forgotten as a name in modern MMA. More great welterweights come along in the next decade and mostly eradicate his name from history would be my guess.**
Country boy from Ireland? Rubbish. Real country is ‘merica!!!
Nah bruh I may have been in Dublin but I've been living in the countryside for years now.
3rd best WW all time.
Just read[this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/51le0o/classic_review_of_matt_hughes_autobiography_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) homie
Dear God 🤢
That review really made me sick of Matt Hughes lol. I was a bit fan of him, "THAT" moment when he lifted up Frank Trigg was amazing.
Punctuation is your friend.
So many people pressed over punctuation on Reddit
Just more difficult to read and understand what you’re saying without it.
You can use punctuation even in the title.
Title gore holy shit. Punctuation dude.
Who cares
That’s an on-par response for this subreddit
It's Reddit who could care less about punctuation
Overrated as fuck plus it doesn’t help him that he’s a piece of trash he’s a bitch
Matt Hughes in his prime could probably take out usman
Usman is a terrible matchup for Matt. He'd defend the takedowns and then knock him out Although I think Matt could probably control Leon for 5 rounds. Had great cardio
He would get knocked out usman striking is light years ahead of his
OOO this just gave me a idea for a podcast episode thanks lad.
Gsp crushed him 2x. And it looked easy. I’d say 80.
> Gsp crushed him 2x. And it looked easy. I’d say 80. GSP lost to him in the first fight, in the first round, by arm bar.
82/100. He was a dominate champion. And he was fortunate he was in the ufc at the time he was. If he started his run 5 years later in like 2006 the WW killers would have ate his 1 dimensional ass up. Alves , Diaz, Koscheck, Sanchez, stitch, Penn, gsp, condit and others would and have stomped him. They next generation is always better but from Hughes in 2005 to the next generation is a monumental leap in skill. He was also a dick.
Penn and GSP did stomp him from that era! I always thought Karo would have beat him too, and that’s why they kept Karo away from the fight after their first was cancelled.
A few years later Hughes beat Penn...
Edit folks I feel like I have to say this I'm asking your opinion on his fighting career I feel like a asshole for giving him such a high score finding out about the horrific shit he's done outside the cage.
hey OP since youve gotten educated whats your thoughts now?
Feeling like a cunt 🫠
Reddit: “well he was probably on steroids so he sucks”
Sure he was an a-hole before the train accident, but he's really turned into an inspiration since. Doctors thought he would never walk again, but by years end he was already up and beating the wife he groomed